What happens if you expose Windows 98 to the Internet in 2024?

[@carlosanjosdev]

"the operational system is older than I am" I feel so old. I got the physical version upon launch

[@Dregomz02]

I still remember using MS DOS, Windows 3.1, 95, 98, Millennium (never used 2000) and later iterations. When he said that i felt like an ancient mummy.

[@yns000]

Aight unc

[@DarrenGriffitt]

I was born in 95 but didn't play around with it until I was about 4 or 5. I decided I was doing my due diligence (I guess anyways; I was a child) and was moving folders to the Recycle Bin. Needless to say, I was impressed at both my mother for not getting angry at me, and her using MS-DOS to restore the WINDOWS folder.

[@Blinkerd00d]

Me too... I remember upgrading from 95. I was like 14 at the time but still...

[@Vlad-1986]

I actually got 3.1. Not at launch, but it was before 95 existed, and only because I didn't had a computer in 1992. I am older than that still 🥲

[@Dr3dze]

next video: what happens if you expose yourself to a Microsoft employee

[@poochychin]

Dr mario

[@ceemeck]

​@@poochychin 💀 what?

[@dragonslayerornstein387]

I have insight on this. Um, they're either incompetent when it comes to windows. Or, they're the kind who can just, fix everything, make it into a live server, connect multiple computers, media box, ect. Knows the codes for error, if its the graphics card, cpu, ram, motherboard, powersupply, under violated, or volted, history of the chips, connectors, etc. You name it. But also think you're incompetent and that windows is not for the end user to use, also, the best version is enterprise, yada yada powershell better.

[@ENNEN420]

You get an invite to Little Saint James 2: James Harder if they know Bill.

[@john_doe1st]

😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@trevoreyre2775]

Up next: Exposing an abacus to the internet in 2024.

[@herauthon]

that beads it !

[@bondjovi4595]

Exposing enigma to the internet. 😆

[@the_mariocrafter]

Abacus: 🦠🧫🤧😷🤒🦠🧫🦠🧫

[@albedesigns]

😂😂😂

[@katsanddoggies9904]

Yes, I learned in the first grade to use one during math. This was in Germany.

[@DL-mk4mz]

Microsoft: We've got problems. They hate windows 11 so much they're trying to downgrade to 98.

[@speedyboishan87]

Windows 11 has similar issues to Windows 10, the most famous with the Start menu freezing or crashing. Microsoft dont know whats causing it. Unreliable Microsoft are.

[@FloatSamplesGT710]

TBH you can't do anything with that crappy old windows 98, windows 10 and 11 were great even better than piece of crap unoptimized windows 7.. some times truth hurts bro and you've blinded by nostalgia and that's the problem..My PC feels like a beast after watching old windows OS builds..

[@YeahImFormula]

@@FloatSamplesGT710 maybe is cuz its from the 1998s 💀 anit no way your trying to ego boost with poop windows 11 spy ware 💀

[@FloatSamplesGT710]

@@YeahImFormula any windows from windows 1.0 to windows 7 is dogshit 💩💀

[@RaysGamingChannel2003]

@@FloatSamplesGT710no windows 11 is dog shit windows 9X and Windows 2000-10 and windows 3.1X is better

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

"This operating system is older than I am"... and suddenly I just felt a whole lot older than I already felt

[@warclan5429]

Well a video made by a dumb teenager that does not know what is he doing and googles everything

[@KyanoAng3l0_Mtvtks]

Same. Grew up with Windows 3.1, 95 and 98. I thought Eric is a fellow Millennial or a Gen Xer.

[@albedesigns]

Same lol I started learning front end in 99 so I remember installing win 98 from win 95! 😅

[@AutoFirePad]

cp/m here :\

[@MattExzy]

On the flip side, I'm elated to know the younger folk are interested and learning about older systems. '98 was a fun system back then to have, I miss the theming it had.

[@colindragan9352]

I have a dedicated Windows 98 PC that I use for retro games, software, and I connect it to the internet from time to time, mostly to do retro web browsing via the internet archive. Never had any problems. It can't even connect to most modern sites (and probably vise-versa) because it's so outdated. It's probably like you said, security by obscurity. Anyone looking to hack computers doesn't really have a reason to target Win9x anymore.

[@redpheonix1000]

Another reason is that you're also probably connecting it behind a firewall (your router), which does most of the blocking work already.

[@fargoth391]

Negative IQ comment.

[@imgamerful]

​@redpheonix1000 Very true. I have an old Dell Windows XP laptop, and even with an (outdated) anti virus installed my router has blocked various threats.

[@gogereaver349]

its well known he infects his own pcs. i dought there is any dos/windows 98 virus even still active.

[@johnsmith1953x]

Until now....moooohahahahaaa!!

[@madzen112]

You forgot to imitate those dial up modem beeps verbally

[@e8root]

Fun fact: not everyone heard dial up modem beeps. Especially when you are younger than Win98.

[@Rombizio]

Weird to think I used to install games on DOS 5.0 and 98 seemed like a huge improvement over Win 95. And this man was not even born when 98 was out. I feel ancient.

[@wintutorials2282]

I’m born in 2003 and I wish I was born before 1990 so I could experience the technological revolution that was happening haha

[@FrostedGeulleisia]

I'm actually quite interested in how 2000 SP4 vs XP RTM vs fully updated XP would end up, if there were any patches that actually made a difference in the long run

[@AndreDeLimburger]

Are Blaster and Sasser still around?

[@moardargons8160]

I remember that W2K SP0 would be infected before you finished updating it. This was with a DSL modem directly connected to the internet. You had to remember to only connect to the internet *after* everything was set up and firewalled. I used the ZoneAlarm firewall back in those days.

[@AndreDeLimburger]

@@moardargons8160 so did xp gold

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

XP SP2 and later is going to win by virtue of the included firewall that is active by default . I'd expect 2000 SP4 to be slightly better than XP RTM by virtue of having four years of security patches over the original XP. Early XP may still win out if the original and more limited "Internet Connection Firewall" is enabled. This was rarely done in practice, so it's arguably an artificial setup. Third party firewalls like ZoneAlarm were more commonly used.

[@mirrorportal1587]

@@AndreDeLimburger With the ports exposed I’m pretty sure yes. EternalBlue is also a big issue on XP and 2000, though some versions of XP famously got the patch not all computers have it.

[@ares106]

I remember in college connecting unpatched version of xp to the internet for the first time and got what felt like hundreds of malware in minutes. This was in the 00’s.

[@Fra93TheGrande]

That shouldn't have happened with a firewall

[@ares106]

@@Fra93TheGrande probably, or could have been something special about the college network, it had one of the fastest internet connections at the time but maybe it was insecure.

[@Rith9789]

XP I believe is the most hacked version of Windows ever. ​@@Fra93TheGrande

[@nesyboi9421]

​@@ares106You might have had the firewall off, I think it was off by default before service pack 2 but I couldn't tell you. Never lived that time.

[@e8root]

It was probably more because IE5 than XP. You can use XP just fine with supported browsers and not get any malware.

[@pythonlibrarian224]

I get the message, we should all switch to windows 98 to stay safe on the internet.

[@mho...]

"only" issue with that is to find 16/32bit programs!

[@anon7149]

​@@mho...32 bit shouldn't be too hard but 16 bit becomes unbearable. Feeding an 16 bit OS a 32 bit image would be like giving a cola to a victorian child

[@mho...]

@@anon7149 first of all: victorian age children where well acquainted with cocaine(cola) 😅 and being a 90s teenager, i still have a bunch 16/32 bit games in a box somewhere, its not that outlandish! all these modern systems just dont know how to deal with many of them unfortunately, if you dont use emulators!...and even then its a tough pill to swallow for modern systems in any case!

[@mho...]

@@anon7149 well, some stupid snowflake censored/deleted my reply, because it talked about the historic fact of cola's original ingredient, being well known to children in the victorian age🙄 ...... but being a 90s teenager, i still own a bunch of old 32/16 bit programs in a box somewhere ^^ and basically none of them can be used/run on any modern machine! even emulators struggle sometimes to execute a 16 bit one on modern machines!...but they are still out there 😆

[@Enzo012]

It's only safe because no-one uses it?

[@mendyc158]

Maybe the hackers were the friends we made along the way

[@yungxxilax9194]

hackers before: I got into your pc, internet, bank account, stole your files, and corrupted your bios, bye bye hackers nowdays: click herez to get robux but there is still lots of vulnerable software, and it is still possible to hack into any device

[@YuNherd]

those were little happy accident encounters

[@mr.pumpkinn]

Bro is running windows 98 inside of windows 7 inside of... *W H A T*

[@system128]

Their host OS is most likely Linux because of the use of KDE's kwin and Konsole at some points of the video

[@MrTropicalFusion]

Makes me feel like I'm in the Matrix.

[@totallynotgad]

​@@system128the host os is proxmox, he said so in the video, the kde you see is because he is using a web kvm to see the vm

[@hmhamam_ham]

He is running Windows 7 under Proxmox which is a virtualization OS based on Debian. I believe he is accessing the Win7 installation using Remmina or from the Proxmox "console". He appears to be viewing it with a Linux flavor running KDE.

[@benfen8798]

@@system128 yeah i think Proxmox is linux

[@shinichiyao7503]

9x is safer than NT these days

[@EricParker]

Pretty much. They're too different and nobody is using an internet connected 9x PC for anything important.

[@Nic98SE]

That's why Windows 98 is the better operating system. You might not even going to need anti virus if malware evolves where it can't run on 9x systems. If you want to use a 9x operating system I choose 98. Because it's the most stable and more designed for the internet. The one mars probe even still operates on Windows 98.

[@selami32]

@@Nic98SE Your name is make sense

[@Nic98SE]

@@selami32 Haha.

[@shade221]

@@Nic98SE me is arguably more stable depending on the hardware you're using.

[@lemagreengreen]

Takes me back to the good old days. For a while with Windows 2000/XP there was the sasser worm, like you would expose any PC running Windows 2000 to the internet and it was a matter of minutes until lsass.exe was exploited.

[@mho...]

still a thing if you connect a clean win xp these days!

[@zooli9]

it happened in his 2000 video almost instantly :'D

[@jamooiniet8456]

Sasser is from 2004, Windows 2000 received its last update in 2017 so it must have been the RTM version of 2k that got infected. WinXP received its last updates in 2019, both are immune to the Sasser worm. So all these people who connect WinXP or 2k to the internet do it with the release version. Probably for clicks.

[@mirthenemrys]

"...but this operating system is older then I am." yeah just hit me right in the old age why dont ya....

[@Sulcus85]

I was all worried about it until I realized something. When I was a kid using Windows 98 on the internet: I was connecting without NAT or a firewall, going to God knows what websites, and everyone was writing malware for Windows 98. So, it actually is pretty safe compared to when I did it when the OS was new.

[@mateynine4230]

too real

[@MasterFrag91]

I'm often amazed when people get up in arms over connecting your ancient machines to the internet. After a certain point, malware developers cease targeting those old platforms. You don't see anything targeting Win9x because nobody builds malware for the 9x kernel anymore, if you installed something like KernelEx (an NT compatibility layer for 9x) you might get some issues, because malware IS built for the NT kernel, but that's likely the only instance where you may see issues. The same can likely be said for MacOS 7-9, nobody targets those systems because NOT ONLY are they outdated operating systems that nobody runs anymore, but they also run on a vastly different architecture than most current computers on the market. Connecting NT-based systems to the internet with no firewall is suicide, though.

[@skycaptain95]

Completely and confidently incorrect. Malware hosts to this day scan for old OSes precisely because of their use in important outdated equipment. Connecting anything older than windows 7 to the Internet without a strict whitelist firewall WILL result in infection. Usually within a day. Windows 7 is also questionable at this point.

[@MasterFrag91]

@@skycaptain95 So... about that. I have a PowerMac G4, an iMac G3, and a Windows 98SE machine that regularly stay connected to the internet, and occasionally run for days on end. I have NEVER had any sort of malware on those systems. None of those operating systems are particularly chatty, they don't run many network services, and with any decent firewall (even just the basic one your normal consumer router provides) there's very little chance of an infection unless you're stupid and try to browse untrusted sites with outdated browsers. I have network services I want to access on those machines to pull applications from my Unraid server, and I haven't had any issues at all. Now, if we're talking fully exposing the systems to the internet, with no firewall, or hell, just a direct connection to your modem, then yes, that is a colossally stupid move, and you WILL get an infection sooner rather than later. But this isn't true if you're doing it like I, a normal human bean, does it. Hypothetically, it opens me up to malware. Realistically, it just lets my legacy systems use my network services.

[@MasterFrag91]

​@@skycaptain95 Well, youtube decided to eat my previous attempt at a reply, but the short version is: If you have even a semi-competent firewall (even the one your basic consumer router provides) this isn't an issue. I have multiple classic MacOS machines, and a Win98SE machine that are regularly connected to my network to gain access to locally hosted network services, that have never gained any sort of malware by doing so. If you're connecting it directly, without a firewall, then yes, that's a colossally dumb move, but with a firewall? Pretty safe, actually. Outdated NT based OSes are where dragons lie, because those OSes have far more active network services that might connect themselves to the internet, and thus be infected remotely. Win9x and MacOS 7-9 don't really have those issues, some of them have updaters, but those are easily disabled. Is it something I'd recommend everyone do? Hell no. But is it as disastrously, cataclysmically dangerous as everyone says? Also no.

[@dougle03]

However there might be lots of legacy systems running very old OS's and no one's had the bravery to upgrade their os's... It does happen. LArge companies sometimes hide dirty secrets like a business critical application that's been running for 25 years, the source code was lost years ago and thus no one dares touch it...

[@skycaptain95]

@@MasterFrag91 yes, a strict whitelist firewall is really the best protection you can get (aside from not being a dumbass). We don't fundamentally disagree.

[@basspig]

I assume you mean by Expose as in connect directly to the internet without a router firewall. Because router firewalls pretty much stop everything unless you're visiting websites with that Windows 98 browser.

[@ButterBradb]

Yuh that's the idea

[@freedustin]

DMZ.

[@alandobrowski2876]

It's not just the firewall, the local network is behind a nat.

[@basspig]

@@alandobrowski2876 I have a piece of test equipment that runs Windows XP embedded and I've not any issues. But for safety, I blocked the internet to that device at the router.

[@Saph27]

You need to port forward past your NAT. Your router is blocking any external connections to your internal IP. Unless you visit a bad site or initiate a bad connection from your host nothing is going to happen unless you are already comprised on your network. Having an old operating system is only dangerous if you actually use it.

[@CopeAndSeethe12939]

98 was still vulnerable to certain DoS which was patched in 98SE (which to my recollection had NO ports open upon install). I remember back in the day working on 98SE and it was more secure than anything else - however - I had hacked the kernal, removed fiolog.vxd and enabled NTFS and other things, and bundled it into the installation. Quite sure the vanilla 98SE was the more "secure out of the box" of all windows to date.

[@MiCHIBiKU_]

next video: what happen if you actually the Microsoft itself

[@Life_Is_A...]

- Running windows 98 in VM. - Host machine has Windows 7! Brother I...

[@marcosgigante8249]

yeah....

[@Surg-265]

- Host machine is a VM.

[@FoxtrotGolfLima]

Humans when only AI can interact with OS: “Why did we move on so far from Windows 98?”

[@linuxares]

SE = Second Edition and not Server Edition ;)

[@Gladiozer]

SE = Sports Edition

[@wintutorials2282]

SE = Superior Edition

[@mathiasdreke180]

In the early 2000s I found thousands of Win98 machines that were directly exposed to the internet without a router or firewall. I was scanning the IP range of my local ISP for port 139 and found a lot of hosts that could be accessed via Windows Explorer (not IE). I could mount remote partitions (incl. drive c with full access), I could even send data to their printers. In a nutshell....it was fun, a lot of fun. Then more people used XP and routers. My script-kid-hacking-skills were no longer working.

[@SynthwaveDuck]

good old days

[@gogereaver349]

they also started dumping telnet.

[@thewiirocks]

It might surprise you to know that many people did that on purpose. We weren’t really concerned about security at that time. (See Microsoft ActiveX) So we thought it was really cool to share a common WORKGROUP on the Internet and explore each other’s shares! We’d share stuff on our machines inside corporate networks too. I learned about some of the best Web Comics that way.

[@e8root]

I had internets only since 2004 when ADSL got more popular in my country (Poland) and due to mostly performance/memory reasons I and almost everyone I knew still used Windows 98SE/Me and it was the case for quite a while. Some people did use modems to access internets as it was the cheapest available option. To be honest I didn't experience any issues whatsoever being behind NAT and only at he very beginning trying to use InternetExplorer - it would quickly devolve in to pop-up hell and computer slowing down in to a crawl. After switching to Mozilla (FF wasn't even a thing a the time funnily enough - and when it was it sucked balls so yeah... ) and then quickly to faster Opera I literally didn't have any issues with attacks or malware. BTW. You can still use Mozilla browser as SeaMonkey and funnily enough there is use case for it over FF - MacType support. At least for secondary browser that isn't Chromium based (note: there is only Cent browser that supports MacType) SeaMonkey does a good job at lower memory requirements and modern web standard support.

[@milasudril]

On windows 98, SMB is not turned on by default. You need to turn it on via the control panel networking applet. One thing to try is to install Microsoft PWS. Could the content you serve affect whether or not you get "hacked"?

[@dascandy]

@1:17 you could install it into a different folder if you wanted to break 70% of all software out there. At one point I had a system without a C: - so much stuff just broke...

[@UnNamedGuy0]

2:35 You just gave me the dumbest idea. Now i want to find out what would happen if i ran a VM inside a VM inside a VM and so on

[@amyshaw893]

Druaga1 has made a video on that

[@geckwwo]

... nothing much? just a laggy mess

[@thecomposerchanginggames5250]

There's some ancient information out on the web about that. People claim that IBM used to have hardware designed to limitlessly and arbitrarily nest virtual machines.

[@markusTegelane]

It's probably going to work, but you'll have massive CPU overhead And some VM software (such as Connectix/Microsoft Virtual PC and I think Hyper-V as well) can actually refuse to start if they detect they're running in a VM

[@ENNEN420]

"Hey everyone, Druaga 1 here."

[@SoulcatcherLucario]

i think my favorite part of his videos over time is watching eric's accent transition from a british accent into more of a north american accent overtime (compare his download button videos to now), it's sounding more and more north american it's just interesting to hear an accent change between the two really quickly (he can sound british and north american within the same sentence sometimes and that is jarring)

[@shockafter7]

Channel description says he is from Canada.

[@ceemeck]

Really like your content, unique and educational, no bloat in your videos either which is common nowadays

[@Ниггерфиш]

Leave an old Linux distro exposed to the Internet next.

[@djksfhakhaks]

Ahh. I remember back in the day subnet scanning for ftp sites and getting /etc/passwd and using jack the ripper so I could telnet in. Encryption sure messed everything up. I blame AOL getting internet access.

[@nobeltnium]

@@djksfhakhaks good o' days

[@noJobProgrammer]

nothing will happen, it will work

[@djksfhakhaks]

@@noJobProgrammer imagine being such a fanboi of anything so much that you believe its unbackable.

[@Ниггерфиш]

@@noJobProgrammer OLD linux distro, like Ubuntu 12.04 or Debian 3. No firewalls no nothing, just a base install exposed to the internet

[@LunaticEdit]

Not only is SMTP actively blocked, it's required by law. You have to sign an agreement with your ISP in order to get that port opened up for sending. I think it's part of the CAN-SPAM act.

[@skycaptain95]

lol

[@Deniz3n]

If it's running in a datacentre, it may already just have it unblocked

[@stevec00ps]

I've not seen that on my home ISP in the UK

[@LunaticEdit]

@@stevec00ps Well it's a US law, so not entirely surprised :) I guess I should have been specific, sorry!

[@stevec00ps]

@@LunaticEdit Interesting!

[@steventinsley2396]

Yeah, cool video. I still remember my family's old Windows 98 PC with a 600 MHz Pentium 3 and 128 MB RAM. It was the first machine I tried out Haskell on.

[@komradekush3411]

thank you for going through all the pain of setting this up!

[@eightbitguru]

Why does your accent swing from the UK to Australia via Canada and North America?

[@mattlm64]

His accent is a mix of all sorts. I can't figure it out.

[@TheAtomicZombie10]

I am so confused with the accent

[@mattlm64]

@@TheAtomicZombie10 He's Canadian apparently which would be my first guess, though his accent does seem to switch around a lot.

[@honkerenthusiast]

my guess would be he immigrated to another country so his accent has gotten kinda mixed up

[@LuneNova]

He maybe french-canadian because I do speak similarly as I am french canadian myself and learn from different countries ways to speak english while english canadian don’t have this problem cause it’s settled. But yeah he’s from canada on his profile.

[@ognjenvujicic9710]

I am working at a graphic firm, and we are well equiped with new machines but we still have 2 machines from early 2000, one is working on windows 95, other one on windows 98 its a blessing working on those systems

[@kylehansbrockmann848]

"Operating system is older than I am." Bro, you just made me feel old af.

[@glassbunnyy]

'the wired' lain jumpscare

[@thelovertunisia]

Win98 was the OS where I learned most of my computing skills.

[@davel4030]

"this operating system is older than i am so it should be fine" 😂

[@MikeLikesChannel]

Any slightly outdated OS offered to the internet without a NAT router or firewall.

[@gogereaver349]

who would target 98. its self infection for the sakes of a video.

[@finnderp9977]

Dont download Oracle VM from company IP or Oracle starts to threaten you

[@albi2k88]

As i know virtual box is free even for commercial use but extension packs isn't. unless the company even proactive chasing for using virtualbox without expansion packs.

[@finnderp9977]

@@albi2k88 I think some trainee downloaded Oracle VM from Oracle site and Oracle sales dug out company contacts and started to bombard that company is using unlicensed software and how many licenses you gonna buy..

[@opelfahrer91]

Running a virtual machine with such an outdated VirtualBox version is a huge risk, because it will probably carry some nasty vulnerabilities which could enable attackers to breakout of the virtualized environment. This can lead to a situation where they will be able to aceess or attack your host machine. You were lucky...

[@themissinfowar6629]

ReactOS! The heckers may think it’s Windows 2000 but it might not really run the viruses properly 😂

[@MasterFrag91]

To be fair, ReactOS barely runs ANYTHING properly. I love the idea of ReactOS, but it's clear that it'll never really go anywhere, it hasn't in the decade and a half I've been watching. you're better off just using any given Linux distro with Wine.

[@BakaTheSussy]

@@MasterFrag91 please dont shit on ReactOS. the work they have done is absolutely insane considering they had to reverse engineer dos, ntoskernel, and then windows apis, which is hard. wine is a much easier approach as it just converts windows api calls to linux/mac/android ones.

[@MasterFrag91]

@@BakaTheSussy I wouldn't say I'm shitting on it, the work they've done is pretty crazy, but I can both admire the progress they've made, while simultaneously believing it won't go anywhere. It's a cool project, but it's effectively been in development for 28 years, and barely has compatibility for even Win9x programs, still has very little hardware compatibility, and even worse driver compatibility. As cool as it is, I suspect it will only ever be a niche experimental OS that no-one ever ACTUALLY uses.

[@gogereaver349]

@@MasterFrag91 last time i checked reactos was running xp era game pretty well. also there literly making there own binary compatble with windows os from litteral scrach thats not easy. where not talking a compatibility layer like wine but full native support.

[@VioletDragonsProjects]

Windows 9x uses something called LANMAN so by default, Modem NT Operating Systems can't talk to it however you can enabled LANMAN support though.

[@Maebbie]

there are only 11 windows's how do you have the 98th one?

[@Nebby_Webby]

You're joking right

[@Tiishen]

lul good one

[@LookAlikeFilm]

inb4 windows 2000

[@craftingdragon007]

I love the Serial Expirements Lain refrences: admin@navi, the wired 🤣

[@chachachi-hh1ks]

If I was Microsoft, I would secretely scan the Internet for versions of Windows too unpopular and obsure to attract real hackers (or too sparce for speading a net worm). And then I would remotely exploit their vulnerabilities in order to freeze/reboot them. Thus anybody who wanted to achieve "security by obsurity" by using ancient Windows would experience nearly constant crashes and reboots the second they connect to the Internet

[@floycewhite6991]

You mean, like any off-the-shelf laptop with Windows 11?

[@gogereaver349]

its windows 98 it does that on its own.

[@heitor7410]

was waitting for this one

[@jeevannair393]

You should see if the Windows 7 VM got infected by anything that escaped the 98 VM!

[@michaelpowers671]

Hey bro, good to see this video got some views, I hope more people find your channel. It's pretty cool!

[@floycewhite6991]

Now you can play Sim City 2000.

[@BatkoNashBandera774]

I was looking for this comment.

[@Thoscellen]

Is not Windows 7 adding a security layer between your Virtual Machine and the Internet as it has an integrated firewall?

[@MarkRoe-w5e]

I actually had Windows 98 back in 1998 and remember it freezing and being full of adware. A firewall was unheard of then so I can only presume the OS issues I had were put on there remotely

[@n1k0n_]

What is this accent man? Sounds like your Canadian who's been living in the UK for a while.

[@SagaFraga]

Can you even connect windows 95?

[@whosyadeddy]

I was born when this ops came out i feel old

[@Povilaz]

nested virtualization is insane.

[@whohan779]

Depends on their hypervisors. You can easily go three layers deep if you play your cards right. QEMU or KVM are good starting points whereas the likes of VirtualBox or VirtualPC should only be used in the last step unless you accelerate them heavily.

[@reggiedixon2]

Was there a reason for not simply using an old PC?

[@Kleyguerth]

Hardware will most likely not be compatible

[@jhonbus]

Sweet, I'm going back to Win98! Fingers crossed for Win2k, I absolutely loved that version. Close second favourite to Vista (no I'm not joking!) Back in the day it definitely wasn't safe, I remember getting net send spam messages on the Win2k NAS/torrent box I set up in my student house in about 2002 😂

[@TheEDFLegacy]

That's such good news! That means I can still use my Windows 98 machine for DOS gaming, and being able to use the internet to download applications for it. 😅

[@KingNikolai]

Would you consider doing one of these tests on Vista? Or would it be a waste of time?

[@TheInfamousKenny]

1:30 "My Compute" does not compute! Love this kind of content so I will subscribe

[@vladislavkaras491]

Huh... I thought it would get hacked directly! :D Thanks for the video!

[@UltimatelyEverything]

This man is a tech nerd and been a tech nerd is cool

[@o0NaGaZaKi0o]

2000 was getting infected extremely rapidly when exposed to the Internet some years ago. Problem got solved by home routers blocking inbound connections.

[@appelveg]

I've got a feeling your voice sounds like it's either heavy AI denoised or you are using a voice changer trained to immitate your own voice.

[@itsanarse]

My thoughts were hes a Brit who's moved to the US

[@cosmickatamari]

Wait, are you not behind a firewall or router with this?

[@paulanderson7796]

No. That's the whole purpose of the video.

[@dovahkiin2108]

There's no need, nothing bad will happen.

[@Mrshoujo]

First install Win98SE. Upgrade Internet Exploder. Install Firefox. Install Unofficial Service Pack.

[@heart_locket2]

for me its install win98se - install autopatcher - run autopatcher - patch everything - install kernelex - install kernelex updates - install firefox

[@mho...]

having started my pc saga on win3.11, its always fun to the old ui again ;) but lets be honest here.... what kind of bob would still write/keep-online tools to infect 25+ year old operating systems?!

[@Aera223]

Maybe generic pings and similar, as well as ppl checking is rarely used machines are being booted

[@jamesdavis727]

I must be old too. Windows 98 seemed new and exciting at the time. After Honeywell mainframes Win98 really was amazing.

[@junizeebin]

My genuine response to the title of the video : it gets traumatized

[@UCzEu378Iu4lhZI7tz76]

6:57 ngl It's kinda crazy to see Censys scanning that computer with not even 15 minutes of uptime

[@Mohandas.Gandhi]

Didn't W9X needed to be restarted for basically any new software to install and run?

[@PipsStuff]

You may get better results using 86box or pcem for Windows 9x and dos, as they emulate more era appropriate hardware.

[@chickerinoradio6617]

i assume you have an isolated network with all ports open, how would you go about setting something like this up?

[@NeverBestStudio]

Lol it makes me think the CPU opened up a miniature black hole in the shape of the steam logo and just sucks up the whole PC

[@gr33nDestiny]

There is a big difference in security between win98 and win98se. Pre SE it was vulnerable to the backoraface attack which I used to have so much fun with because it was a backdoor RDP and was so much fun to mess with people. I don’t know if the conspiracy that it was NSA is true but I can confirm it was the best hack I ever seen in my life, by far.

[@dstevans]

I tried installing 2000 without sp4 in the mid 2000's...luckily I had an internet security suite installed at the time and was immediately bombarded with dozens of RPC worm attacks within seconds of connecting to the Internet. There were 3 major ones but I only remember the gaobot and welchia warnings from the firewall. Fearing something got through I started over and re-installed sp4 before connecting to the Internet and downloading updates. I wouldn't be surprised if those worms are still everywhere out there.

[@MarekSurek.]

Bro exposing Windows 98 to internet in 2024 on Windows 7 already connected to internet

[@grahamd5987]

I've got an actual full Windows 98 computer connected to the internet via LAN, not a virtual machine like this. It was interesting using Internet explorer again though the HTTPS restrictions leaves most websites unusable, there are a few ones specifically designed for Windows 98 and a few which don't use HTTPS.

[@retrorygaming]

3:00 Frogfind would be more useful than google in this case. Frogfind is a search engine made specifically for old systems. Will work on IE3.0 which will run on Windows 3.11 which was the first windows version with native networking. You did have to install a browser from a CD, but it will work even in 2024. Likely very hard on a VM though. I did it on a real computer running DOS and 3.11.

[@Mario583a]

Theory: Malware. Reality: Suffering.

[@insainwhiteboy1]

Love these vids my guy, good work

[@NoPlaceForTheDead]

I miss that load bar.

[@spiralrunitback]

What os are you running on your actual machine? That theme is beautiful

[@Arby.]

love the lain reference @ 7:52 ^-^

[@agrofindastation]

Oof, watching the wireshark was bit like watching when a parent team created a virtual 12 year old on Instagram and all the creep messages started coming in immediately

[@Ocelot35]

Would prefer to see you using the original hardware. I believe in you.

[@TechnicalIssuesOfficial]

You could run google on Windows 1.0 I swear to god

[@EricParker]

Might actually be a video idea, but I think it's probablyg onna be 3.1.

[@TechnicalIssuesOfficial]

@@EricParker still googles keeping alive stuff older than their backrub company

[@uooooooooh]

Google works pretty well even in a pure terminal browser, eg w3m, links

[@WhileTrueCode]

@@EricParker Netscape Navigator ftw

[@belstar1128]

Windows 1.0 was so bad you were better off using dos

[@lalo559]

So how did people send viruses through chat rooms or msgs back in the day??

[@REALps2controller]

I feel like this is going to be a great video. 🎉🎉🎉

[@ENNEN420]

Sorry, dude but this video is BS MS propaganda. They just want you to upgrade to the buggy and terrible Vista, but if you properly patch 98, you can still properly use it in 2007. Heck, Valve said Steam would stop working but it STILL WORKS!

[@duduchannel6729]

Based time traveler

[@skycaptain95]

So weird seeing a 2007 comment that's not 17 years old

[@bedrocklolgame]

What a cool time traveller (he doesn't know what based mean)

[@winterbunnie6513]

I’ve always wanted to see a time traveler, I can cross it off my bucket list now

[@belstar1128]

or use xp if you still used a computer that couldn't run xp or 2000 in 2007 the internet would be way too laggy .i know we used it in school in 2007 and 95 too and only stopped in 2010

[@VRixxo123]

My brother Windows 7 in 2024 is wild

[@OofTheEpik]

He is probably using Mac/Linux. Also theres an explanation at 0:25

[@That_One_Guy2008]

Why use windows 7?

[@bObJiMTiMBiLL4432]

so if i use a virtual machine with a simulated dial up connection and connect to the internet and just open up firefox and do nothing i will get infected and is proto web safe to use as in can i not get virus's on it because i want a safe way to use internet and email on win 98 for fun and i want to know what apps and settings to use

[@6uiti]

2:44 try writing a modern website and make it work on IE4-IE10, thats what u call a true nightmare

[@proletariennenaturiste]

How do you open close program without control alt delete? I used control alt end and it didn't work.

[@Roge9]

What's next? Exposing DoS to internet? Haha