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@retro.76738 ай бұрын
Main Takeaways: Jace doesn’t pull out canonically, Loot is the key to new merchandise. Jace’s MOM is the GOAT
@TheyCallMeDio8 ай бұрын
MTG moms are great Pia Nalaar, Queen Linden, now Jace's mom
@grin_of_grimmsnarl13338 ай бұрын
@@TheyCallMeDio don't forget Elspeth!
@michaelflamel26118 ай бұрын
@@TheyCallMeDio even Jaya Balaard even though she didn’t technically have any kids
@TheyCallMeDio8 ай бұрын
@@michaelflamel2611 Jaya is basically Chandra's 2nd mom
@Ramperdos8 ай бұрын
He was storming the seedcore way differently than the others during the invasion.
@elpokitolama8 ай бұрын
The writer for the epilogue was also the one who wrote the absolutely beloved Ixalan storyline! I'm so happy she came back after all these years, this epilogue was so good
@danieledemartin15508 ай бұрын
Really? 😱Thanks for the infomation!
@hsMaskman8 ай бұрын
She also wrote the initial love letters story that gave us Huatli and Saheeli as a canon couple
@rayswift57118 ай бұрын
Oh, it's all makes sense now. She's good!
@GhostlyGhost3338 ай бұрын
I’ll say this. The epilogue was written better than the main story for thunder junction, in my opinion.
@enxman76978 ай бұрын
She is really good, but I find the mind-fortresses-checkmate-phyrexia a bit cheap
@peeporiot99488 ай бұрын
I love more than anything that Jace raw-dogging is canon. That was important to know.
@shadow-faye2 ай бұрын
Where's that
@RocketSlug8 ай бұрын
Overjoyed that they got Allison Luhrs back to write more Jace/Vraska! My dreams of half-gorgon babies may be dashed, but I will take the cute merchandizable mascot
@stealthsneak8 ай бұрын
The hope is still there somebody might be able help with that ( I hope)
@MetPhD8 ай бұрын
At the start of the story today I was “done” with Magic story (as someone that read the books in the 90s). I was thinking simple plot armor “oil vanished - Jace and Vraska cured”. But, I actually like how old story elements helped them survive and am pleasantly surprised. I REALLY LIKE the idea of them becoming the new “villains” (depending on viewpoint). Like Ryan says: it’s compelling because of “what are they willing to do?”
@KD_Oliveira8 ай бұрын
It's giving kinda "everybody wants to save the multiverse, but as usual, they just disagree on how." I'm down for it if it brings back the clash of colors philosophies (i.e. 'natural ways x Growth Mindset' green vs dimir)
@NemisCassander8 ай бұрын
I doubt that they're going to be the villains. What this SCREAMS to me is that Emrakul kinda has to be used. That was her job, as I understand it. The other Eldrazi Titans, or new ones, also need to come into existence. It also might provide a 20-year (real time) 'Told ya so' from Ugin to Jace.
@benito60368 ай бұрын
You should have noted that Lead Pipe got a story spotlight upside Proft's head!
@reubenfromow48548 ай бұрын
I should have known this from her years as a pirate captain, but Vraska really does love seamen
@eagless77788 ай бұрын
This epilogue is much better than the main story of the set
@Soy3098 ай бұрын
These are the stories that make me love Jace as a character. He's grown so much from the cocky kid in the artifice books.
@zenalias31318 ай бұрын
the "9 years earlier" was a great call back to another banger mtg novel, the Agents of Artifice Fans should give it a go if they can get their hands on the book
@aaron97978 ай бұрын
i hope we see garruk on strixhaven as a double faced planeswalker with liliana
@TheyCallMeDio8 ай бұрын
Garruk needs to be the Filch of Strixhaven 😂
@StewartHiles8 ай бұрын
Man I absolutely died at the cold brew coffee from Tarkir joke
@ty_sylicus8 ай бұрын
I like the direction the story is going. The omen paths are more interesting than I initially thought.
@IIxIxIv8 ай бұрын
I think they just really undersold them early on. Now they're leaning much more into a connected multiverse.
@kalebprice71468 ай бұрын
So Jace’s mom heals using Phoenix down?
@SquidWithABigIdea8 ай бұрын
Oh man, we're finally here! I absolutely adored the Epilogue chapters. I think the author did a great job of walking us back through the relevant parts of Jace's history to provide context for the journey she was about to take Jace and Vraska on. I loved how the flashback scenes recontextualized prior scenes from across the past year of Magic's story, and I thought the answers that she provided for most of the big remaining questions, like how Jace and Vraska survived, were interesting and satisfying. But what I loved most about these chapters were how they set up Jace, Vraska, and Loot to be our new Anti-Hero Antagonists. My favorite type of antagonist is "the person who has steadfast, unwavering convictions but who is horribly misguided". The kind of antagonist will genuinely reach out to the heroes with a welcoming hand and an invitation to join them, and who cannot understand when that invitation is rejected. Watching the trio walk off into the sunset with their hearts set on burning everything down to rebuild it to their own standards was such a great ending. I'm genuinely excited to see what happens next!
@Crusina8 ай бұрын
I don't think Jace wouldn't understand. He would just be sad they didn't agree. ONE proved that Jace was ultimately a "for the greater good if all, no sacrifice is to little."
@SquidWithABigIdea8 ай бұрын
@@Crusina Oh yeah, absolutely. Jace would be disappointed but ultimately wouldn’t be dissuaded from his path. Either way, that’s the kind of antagonist I find most compelling so I’m jazzed that it looks like that’s where the story is going.
@charcharmunr8 ай бұрын
@@SquidWithABigIdea I mean, every real chance he gets talked down from it in some way by the end of things, I assume. No way are they just going "Jace and Vraska are wrong, they lose and die/get imprisoned".
@SquidWithABigIdea8 ай бұрын
@@charcharmunr You're probably right, and I think it will be fun seeing what their vision of the future is, how "close" they get to achieving it (and what it costs them to get that far), and ultimately what it takes to bring them back from the edge of calamity. It's fun when a protagonist gets to play antagonist for a while, especially when you (the audience) are so familiar with how powerful the character is.
@charcharmunr8 ай бұрын
@@SquidWithABigIdea Most likely the end thing will be something like "they stop before the commit some truly bad atrocity but then somebody, say, Tezzeret, hijacks the MacGuffin and makes themself the final boss" because at the end of the day Magic IS about conflict, so the story just resolving peacefully isn't likely to happen.
@mathieubakker9478 ай бұрын
The main story already gave me a "Borderlands" vibe, with the western theme, the vault and it having a powerful creature inside. Now with Tamiyo mentioning that there are several of these vaults, I'm quite sure where the writers got their inspiration from.
@Dlark178 ай бұрын
Remember when a single drop of Phyrexian oil was enough to infect an entire plane? When an ancient golem planeswalker had to be healed by the sacrifice of his friend's life to even have a chance at recovery? Pepperidge Farm remembers...
@eighteentwilight85478 ай бұрын
“As long as one drop of the oil exists, the joyous work continues.” They did New Phyrexia real dirty in MoM
@Greg501-8 ай бұрын
The oil "evolved" into a less overpowering virus. But like, they were never going to kill off Jace.
@U1TR4F0RCE8 ай бұрын
To be fair that only was seen to apply to Argentum which was kind of uniquely suited to being vulnerable. There was plenty of oil on domanaria without it infecting the whole plane.
@thegarunixking11018 ай бұрын
Inverse Law of Phyrexian Oil
@SladeWeston8 ай бұрын
Not the same oil. Old school phyrexian oil was like a 90s Nokia phone, durable af and designed to last. The MoM oil was like most modern electronics, mass produced, and requiring an active internet connection/subscription to function. When Norn died the signal died with her and it all stopped functioning. Remember that New Phyrexia isn't the same as old Phyrexia. Norn and team only had whatever knowledge could be coded into that single drop of oil Karn carried in. I think the idea is that the properties of the old oil was one of the things they were not able to perfectly recreate.
@TenTailedSasuke8 ай бұрын
Just gotta say I love these videos. I love the lore but have found it so hard to read the past year or two, so I usually just wait patiently until you post your summaries to keep me informed.
@EthanStreblow8 ай бұрын
I LITERALLY was asking my friend at church today, "So, how did Jace get uncompleated?" Thanks, my dude.
@RedNinjaV8 ай бұрын
The church of the holy Planeswalker
@rennac31528 ай бұрын
@@RedNinjaVHe switched religions pretty fast, just a week ago it was the Phyrexian scriptures for Jace
@TheArcanePengu8 ай бұрын
Jace appearing and saying 'Mommy HELP' will forever be burned into my mind🤣🤣
@MissingNovice8 ай бұрын
Jace and Vraska being the new villains is cool! I'm just hoping the end of the 'omenpath arc' doesn't actually end with the only people able to traverse the planes being planeswalkers again. Like, Wizards could probably cut down on Thunder Junction-esque "EVERYONE IS HERE!!" sets, but a multiverse where everybody has the possibility to go anywhere is really interesting to me. And also it lets us get Fblthp cameos in non-Ravnica sets.
@andrewfornes53207 ай бұрын
I really don't like the everyone can go everywhere time period. It takes away the rarity of Planeswalkers and how each one of them were unique and had a power to traverse something that kept them from being the same as ordinary people. I hope they somehow fix the planes & sparks to remove Omen Paths. Then we could see the fallout of how people given a god-like ability would act, if it suddenly was taken away. Who would rise up to try and create/steal a planeswalker's spark. It could usher in a whole host of villians, hellbent on getting the powers they once had.
@MissingNovice7 ай бұрын
@@andrewfornes5320 being a Planeswalker is still special. The fact that you can do it at will is a pretty big deal. Plus the walkers of today are t gods. They're just wizards who happen to know how to cast planeshift. The god thing was fixed with the first mending and if you want to have an arc like what you're describing... Read the War of the Spark arc. Unfortunately they didn't end it well.
@mtg10228 ай бұрын
i been waiting years for Jace to finally say the thing
@jarmandog4138 ай бұрын
I’ve honestly loved jace’s growth since gatewatch. Having him and vraska survive was one of the best things from thunder junction.
@notnate61528 ай бұрын
I'm not going to lie, Jace making a mental bubble to fight of the the virus is the exact defences I imagined for him when he got infected. Him being this super mental mage, to me it might make sence that he would be able to do it. Like if hes able to use his mental prowess to take Controle of someone else's body why couldn't he use his mind magic to take control of his own body.
@rayswift57118 ай бұрын
Haven't been so interested in a MTG story for quite some time. It's nice to have one like this.
@yotuel90648 ай бұрын
So a multiverse of posibilities and Jace heals by the combination of wishing really hard to get good and phoenix feather.
@GabrielMateusLima8 ай бұрын
I love your channel, there's no other talking about the lore like you. It's so enjoyable to watch. Keep the good work 👏🏼
@TempestDacine8 ай бұрын
I remember when Jace was the annoying too cool for school protag now he feels like an old friend and mistakes or not Im rooting for him.
@doublee3438 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed these epilogue stories, thanks for covering them!
@GrantSchreiber-nz5tz8 ай бұрын
The epilogue is well worth reading more than once -- been a long long time since any magic lore did that.
@losttheory27618 ай бұрын
Gotta be honest. I almost cried when I was listening to the epilogue chapters on YT with the whole jace's mom part.
@MyronCheung-zt2dc8 ай бұрын
waited for this forever love it keep up the good work this was a great set story
@Justin_428 ай бұрын
I find it funny that the biggest complaint in the comments about this epilogue is a decision that was already made in Magic's story. Like Nahiri litterally just woke up and chose not to be phyrexianized anymore; compared to that, this story puts in a lot of justification as to why they could try to survive it. Halo/burned phyrexian oil; mind controlled to attack their own body about it; and magic about litterally coming backing to the dead by a good healer. I get the frustration about the oil not being treated with storyline continuity in MoM, but I would think it worse if they got more inconsistent with it by just flip-flopping after it's not the focus of the story anymore.
@christopherfu21698 ай бұрын
6:31 I could have sworn Jace and Vraska went to Vryn following the war of the spark.
@charcharmunr8 ай бұрын
The second book ended with Jace IMPLYING he was gonna go to Vryn, but that just... Didn't happen because that story's been retconned quite a bit.
@crayyonnyadrav40558 ай бұрын
Somehow this sounds a bit like the beginning of Jaces Villain arc. Since he sees himself as the one who knows what planes are worth existing.
@christopherb5018 ай бұрын
Considering he was the actual benefactor of this round-up gang, maybe Jace will be the tournament organizer for the death race.
@GreenHavoc8 ай бұрын
Dude, the epilogue sounds dope! I’m def gonna read now-especially interested in Jace and his mom ❤
@justno59168 ай бұрын
This is probably the best part of the whole story
@MeronPurin8 ай бұрын
Hot take: Ashiok is actually Jace in every single story before Thunder Junction, but we will only discover it when time travel becomes a thing in Magic.
@maggiiopgott89758 ай бұрын
It already was
@thenardedgamer2478 ай бұрын
Okay, first I’ll say that I didn’t mind the epilogue-I thought it was actually decent…also fantastic video as always…now, I’m not even sure if this is place to make this comment, but I want to say that I personally want to see a storyline that features a regular non-planeswalker (sparked/desparked) non super iconic magical being (Kellen/rakdos/amalia) as a new original baron zemo esq villain who is determined to finish what the multiverse started and end all planeswalkers. I even think it would be the coolest thing ever to have the artists slowly tease the figure in the background of common cards (which can be more easily overlooked) to highlight just how often the little people on the planes of this grand universe are ignored. I just want more grounded villains who are willing to methodically plot to outwit other characters who are most likely way more powerful and threatening…additionally this would prove that not every evil character needs to be a Nicol Bolas, a phyrexian praetor, or a planeswalker duo across sets (because when we often get a villain who doesn’t fit that description they die or are defeated in one set-most recently Akul, who I would argue couldn’t fit my hypothetical villain role anyways but still he was cool and now he’s gone). I don’t know if anyone will read this book of a comment but let me know what y’all think because I’m curious to see what this community wants and feels about the current story’s roots and the direction they seem to be growing towards.
@bru47738 ай бұрын
The problem is that we've already seen someone with that goal teased in the story, so we're probably not going to have anyone else take up that role at this point. We saw a desparked Nahiri decide that planeswalkers were a blight on the multiverse and vow to end them, with a disapproving Ajani standing nearby. So if theyre going to go with someone trying to kill off the planeswalkers, I doubt it would be anyone but her at this point.
@thenardedgamer2478 ай бұрын
@@bru4773 yeah, that it true, but once again I hate that they waste that arc on a planeswalker, especially nahiri, who was one of my favorite characters but who I feel like has been made weirder and weirder ever since the last trip to Zendikar. Thanks for the reply though and the commentary!
@clasherking45288 ай бұрын
Bro..... Poor garruk he got replaced as THE mono green Planeswalker by both Nissa and Vivian, he was supposedly watching over the kenrith twins (and we saw what a great job Wotc let him do there) and now Jace is stealing his thunder (pun intended) by tracking down oko..... Wotc just let garruk have SOMETHING
@andrewfornes53207 ай бұрын
He is a strong white male. WotC hates that the most.
@kamuishr38 ай бұрын
The one thing I am questioning is how messed up is Jace still. Annie said even after he “let his illusion down” that he was still messed up before he told her to sleep
@PKFat8 ай бұрын
1) Final Fantasy Phoenix Downs are now canon in MtG 2) I adore that you skirted the detail that Jace & Vraska have been trying to conceive to
@GhostlyGhost3338 ай бұрын
Well, I’m glad we got to know what happened to Jace and Vraska. Finally. And the story with his mother was a nice touch. And though I don’t like Loots design, it does explain his presence there. Somewhat. It looks like it might be to start of an overarching story. We probably haven’t seen the last of Loot.
@lucashumberto34548 ай бұрын
Great video as always
@lucashumberto34548 ай бұрын
Edit because my doubts was in the video hahaha
@andrewlamere76548 ай бұрын
Jace is still super messed up, he just uses illusion magic to cover it up. Annie Flash's angel eye saw through it when he was in the vault with loot and mentioned he had a lot of scars. Both of them were healed using a phoenix feather, which combo'd with Jace's Mother's spell, would necrotize and burn away bad flesh and then replace it with new flesh. Vraska was extremely messed up from a lightning bolt from Ral so she had a lot replaced, that is why she looks normal.
@hsMaskman8 ай бұрын
I had already read and cried about this epilogue and i still wasn't ready to hear it again 😭
@ImAKAJenks8 ай бұрын
If Jace turned out to be some kinda of Phyrexian sleeper agent that set a bunch of stuff into motion behined the scenes when he disappeared I'd be super onboard for all this "let's just pretend all that didn't happen" angle they'e aiming for, but I really don't see that as very likely tbh
@rennac31528 ай бұрын
We were robbed of story closure in so many directions
@CenJohan8 ай бұрын
Don’t remind me of WOTC’s treatment of Garruk. One day he shall return to us.
@leovalenzuela83688 ай бұрын
You make excellent videos and I must watch your older material
@davidguzman23948 ай бұрын
Great telling Ryan. So Vraska and Jace now wants to become Thanos.
@5zero3audits398 ай бұрын
I’m going to say my prediction and leave it at that. Gatewatch Civil War
@spellartificer8 ай бұрын
I think the most important thing we learned from the epilogue before Jace not pulling out is that Tarkir has cold brew coffee
@seanwhite11048 ай бұрын
Prediction: Jace and Vraska will do the thing with the thing to "fix" the multiverse. And, in so doing will also release Nicol Bolas from his prison and he will of course inevitably regain his spark and his former power because he's super smart and crafty. This will also something something the leylines and mana in the multiverse and Emrakul will realize that now it's time to leave her slumber in the moon over Inistrad. And bing bang boom we've got not one but two big bads lined up for the next couple years.
@7Alberto78 ай бұрын
I love this story! Thanks Ryan amazing story video for my evening chill!🎉🎉🎉awesome
@rennac31528 ай бұрын
I was really curious what lazav, was doing here. Hoping one of these epilogues covered it. Damn him for being so slippery, no wonder Mirko is still foaming at his fangs over this
@Jynx3168 ай бұрын
Well, I wanted Jace to be the next Big Bad, just didn't expect it to go down like this. Neat!
@Fr0styGuru8 ай бұрын
I love how its just a story about 2 lovestruck people who try and push their love away but in the end it takes them dying and coming back to accept the truth, get married, and go on a world travel with their newly adopted kid.
@GhostlyGhost3338 ай бұрын
In my opinion, I think the epilogue was written better than the main story for Thunder Junction. Because it least the epilogue made sense while also tying up some loose ends from previous sets.
@trumpets1018 ай бұрын
I actually liked the epilogue chapters covering the events of what happened with Jace and Vraska. Obviously it was on everyone’s minds after March of the Machines ended. The whole bit of them going to Tarkir for some cold brew had me in stitches. 🤣
@Balemor5918 ай бұрын
I had the impression that Vraska's locked memories were unlocked during the pre-War of the spark stories by her albino Kraul servant. Which actually, at that point, made the whole Jace's plan of "you re my captain" redundant
@charcharmunr8 ай бұрын
Yeah it's weird that they just... Didn't have that story beat pay off at all, because Vraska's actions make a lot more sense if she doesn't have her memories.
@Balemor5918 ай бұрын
@@charcharmunr The reason she joined the Gatewatch against Bolas was because she got her memories back. But it didn't happen because of Jace and it seemed like a lost plot point back then. Jace unlocking her memories now doesn't make sense either, unless the "I love you, captain" phrase was used just to remind her their time together and reignite her passion.
@charcharmunr8 ай бұрын
@@Balemor591 He didn't unlock her memories, he more just used that as a thing to, effectively, pull her consciousness to the forefront.
@lokigamer92368 ай бұрын
Hope jace and vraska can remake the multiverse, a soft reboot could be interesting
@arkanixarcmage8 ай бұрын
If they use Phoenix feathers to remake the multiverse...Bolas could be hiding the elements of his being in the sparks that he took while on Ravnica. Rebirthing the multiverse with Phoenix magics, gives almost everything a chance to start a new. Say the phased out Phyrexia! Old Phyrexia? Tolarian Academy? Tarkir? Ellicor? Would love to see the Heroes become the villains. Thunder Junction?... Not MTG. They still need to give Arcanis a background story if ya ask me. Favorite card btw.😅
@tcsmagicbox8 ай бұрын
Ojutai's cold brew coffee, only available on Tarkir.
@mattdennis68458 ай бұрын
'...they spend months on vryn healing, talking, and planning.' mhm
@chrayez8 ай бұрын
Planning. Family planning.
@DeathspressoLatte8 ай бұрын
WotC can you make Tarkir Coldbrew a thing?! Like sell them at our locale lgs so we have something themed to drink during game nights!
@KD_Oliveira8 ай бұрын
12:04 Blimey, so does that means that we'll definitely NOT have a Shandalar set in the future?
@fredranzalot48498 ай бұрын
Man, it's really good for the phyrexians that nobody else ever tried thinking really hard about not being infected.
@diegocassola18 ай бұрын
Of all people in that universe Jace would be able to pull that off by having that mental fortress ready after years of mastering mind magic, but Vraska doing it too is way too convenient
@revdrianinvian18418 ай бұрын
To be fair, Jace is a master of mind magic and a Planeswalker so if anyone can do it that way it'd be him.
@charcharmunr8 ай бұрын
I mean, the premier mind mage of the multiverse given a moment of lucidity via Halo being able to just barely fight it off enough to render himself unconscious is a pretty one-in-a-billion confluence of events.
@charcharmunr8 ай бұрын
@@pascalsimioli6777 Jace did it FOR Vraska.
@fredranzalot48498 ай бұрын
@@charcharmunr I can buy that Jace, with all those caveats, could clear his mind of the phyrexian influence for a time, but I don't see why it would purge the oil from his body, and un-robot him.
@ronaldzecca978 ай бұрын
great story telling
@lanibentz99768 ай бұрын
Ryan no! The cookie you gave Garruk has first strike!
@carlosokelly49378 ай бұрын
This story was fantastic. I do however want more information on Kaito and the Wanderer post-rupture. I wish we could swap out furry plane for more Kamigawa.
@fatewalker8 ай бұрын
Eill power, mind over matter and an army Medic is all it takes to cure Phyresis. Who knew, if only Orim knew we would never have lost Hanna.
@trod94768 ай бұрын
The question is by “rebirthing things” what would that do to to places like where bolas is at and would that effect where emrakul is imprisoned?
@joshc72918 ай бұрын
Took your advice and read both chapters. I was not disappointed. Thanks!
@paoloborello34308 ай бұрын
Great as always but I miss the mustache minute!! I’m interested in your opinion on this one since I think it was well written even if the “plot “ was somewhat off
@atragonx79398 ай бұрын
The story certainly didn't deliver on any kind of "redemption arc" for Oko. Maybe it's not done yet, but they set things up in WOE to make him a more complicated character with nuanced motivations... We followed Kellen's adventures over 4 sets to find Oko, and he wound up just being a bad dad on top of being a jerk who turns kings into elks for LOLs.
@charcharmunr8 ай бұрын
I mean, he has a BIT of regret near the end, but the point of Oko is he's a once-good man gone too far in a cause that no longer has any foundation in morality, he's just embraced being a shithead.
@griffonsarcade3 ай бұрын
a pikachu with a multiversal GPS in it sure, if you say so
@dmarmartin8 ай бұрын
The legion forgot complaetion kills the soul to PSA going home to mom. Regardless, omenpaths mean Bolas is free since Teferi's plane was "reached and swapped"
@dmarmartin8 ай бұрын
The legion also baptized Nissa & Ajani, forgot Liliana had a bounty, and that Ashiok can materialize illusions (of Elesh Norn's nightmare of enduring flesh or a reversal of complaetion)
@Itatchi17718 ай бұрын
Speaking of Garruk: why is wizards so averse to bringing him back? We haven't seen hide nor hair of him since original Eldraine. Ixalan (or even Wilds of Eldraine) would've been great moments to reintroduce Garruk to the story! I hope we see him soon because I miss my boy. Dude got cured of the chain veil curse then seemingly dematerialized.
@thatonefirekestral8 ай бұрын
Yeah in the final chapter of the throne of Eldraine novel, he follows Rowan and Will after promising their dad he'll look after them. I think the next time we see any of these characters is when Kasmina invites Rowan and Will to strixhaven
@GreenFenril8 ай бұрын
I still want to know what happened to the Planeswalker sparks.
@Teifling8 ай бұрын
I'm curious of Ashiok's thoughts on another using their visage to manipulate others. It sou ds like something they'd get a kick out of.
@FreeFromAllThings8 ай бұрын
Maybe there will be a Ravnica vs Guildpact storyline...
@GaaradancepartyX8 ай бұрын
My theory is that they arent actually cured of their oil, jace is both cocky and often not as good as he thinks he is, so i could see the oil using him to basically go dormant. With wizards playing the long game and all the plot holes from march being actually relevant for a later storyline. His and vraskas plan seems too phyrexian to me to be their own thoughts and it comes about in an almost body snatcher trance in front of an omenpath.
@fredranzalot48498 ай бұрын
You have far too much confidence in the writing team at wizards, but I *do* like it.
@GaaradancepartyX8 ай бұрын
@@fredranzalot4849 I am often overly optimistic
@masalanicholoff35938 ай бұрын
If Nahiri, Ajani, and Nissa didn’t also get better following MoM I would be inclined to agree. But they all seem to have recovered their original personalities without any phyrexian adjacent plans.
@TheSpearkan8 ай бұрын
Interesting theory. We thought Phyrexia dead when Yawgmoth was destroyed yet it lived on in the oil. Maybe with the end of New Phyrexia the inheritors of the legacy are in the "uncompleated" planeswalkers. One theory could be that Ajani and Nissa were the only planeswalkers actually cured of compleation, if even then, with some core aspect living in Jace and Vraska (and, by extension of this reasoning, Nahiri). If this is true, then Phyrexia will somehow return through them, though by what means and how is too speculative to consider.
@GaaradancepartyX8 ай бұрын
@@masalanicholoff3593 they were cured by a different process with two known anti-phyrexian agents (halo and meliras blood) to completely remove the oil. Jace just sort of willed it away and like I said he is cocky enough to delude himself into thinking that was enough. So I think the only people who are actually cured are the people used the malira process
@sethzard8 ай бұрын
It's so weird them talking about "Evil not spreading" when there were already evil planeswalkers. Like even if you believe in the balance of good and evil, I don't buy that anything has really changed. Also, the obscene hubris in thinking that you can, let alone should remake the multiverse as you see fit.
@MagicArcanum8 ай бұрын
I think the difference there was that while a single planeswalker may be evil, it is hard for them to bring an entire army with them from plane to plane. Nicol Bolas needed a really convoluted plan to get Eternals to Ravnica and then a supremely powerful magical artifact to trap other planeswalkers there. I think Jace and Vraska are worried future events will be on a similar scale - someone like Kaervek could search the multiverse for allies and bring a huge force back to Dominaria to conquer Zhalfir again, for example, which would have been previously impossible.
@pikachufantastic8 ай бұрын
Or something like the silvers spreading or off chance the gods of all planes with gods going to war, or just the eldrazi
@chayadol8 ай бұрын
These 2 epilogue has far better written than all set after ONE. The writing is pretty good (judging from the mess element and plot that they got in hand) prolly except that coffee party tho , that one just...wait they have coffee??! Loool
@micahlaremore82248 ай бұрын
Good summary
@playersofthecoast41528 ай бұрын
Quick question: how did Jace get Vraska to Vryn if she doesnt have a spark. I was under the impression that transporting other living things is extremely rare (Wrenn and Jiang are the only ones i can remember). Is this not rare anymore? Has Jace shown the ability to do this before and i missed it?
@MagicArcanum8 ай бұрын
Leaving Ravnica, they both still had their spark. During their time on Vryn though, the Spark Rupture happened, which would have stranded Vraska on that plane were it not for the omenpaths.
@rick82168 ай бұрын
I think Jace should have snail eyes forever
@maxschnell36588 ай бұрын
March of the Machine still not having any serious consequences, the oil is just not threatening and was made worse by jin-gitaxias.
@mRboylls8 ай бұрын
This made me think are their any major villains who were trapped on a plane that can now wreak havoc? I don’t know enough about magic history to know myself but can nicol bolas escape now? Or what about the slivers?
@charcharmunr8 ай бұрын
Bolas is an elephant they've deliberately not addressed in the rom. Slivers are an interesting thing, because a single sliver isn't actually a problem. You need a sliver ruler of some kind getting across planes to be a problem. But, yeah, there's stuff like Kaervek who could be up to any number of things, or newer villains that've yet to be dealt with like the Mycotyrant, etc.
@andrewfornes53207 ай бұрын
Millions of planes.. millions of them but it just so happens that Vraska would end up on a plane with two of her past co-workers. This is starting to get like Star Wars, where everything revolves around the same 6 planets.
@MagicArcanum7 ай бұрын
It wasn't random. She waited until there was a mapped path from Vryn to Ixalan (and then to Thunder Junction). The whole point of the epilogue chapters was to show us how patient and methodical Jace and Vraska had become after their time as Phyrexians. It's a big change for them because as planeswalkers they could be much more spontaneous - if something goes wrong, they could just planeswalk away from trouble. But now, they can't, and so they spent months planning how to get into the vault and figuring out exactly who they would need to get help from.
@andrewfornes53207 ай бұрын
@@MagicArcanum My bad, I jumped to conclusions, I will leave my comment and your reply to show others and allow them to read the response. Did they ever say how much of a time gap there was? I noticed that Kellan looks a lot older and doesn't have his sword handles anymore as well as Ral setting up a network thing that wasn't mentioned in Murders at Karlov Manor, to my knowledge. Thanks for the explanation and keep up the vids. I am hoping we somehow get to see how the Coin Empire was in the past sort of how we saw the Brothers War from Teferi. Wotc really needs to introduce a walker with time manipulation powers but one that cannot interfere with time, only view it. It would help with storytelling imo.
@ezrilebeau82348 ай бұрын
No mustache minute?!
@MagicArcanum8 ай бұрын
I really only do those for the main story recaps now.
@davidbrasher35958 ай бұрын
Planeswalkers are jerks! They have their sparks ignite, they disappear from home, and their families and friends think they are dead. Then years later, they finally decide to return home and tell their families and friends they are still alive.
@blue93938 ай бұрын
So was Jayce Ashiok for the whole eldraine story? Or only at the end during the jail cell? Does this mean we haven’t actually seen Ashiok since phyrexia?
@MagicArcanum8 ай бұрын
Did you watch the whole video? I explain this at 13:40
@DarkJusticeMetal8 ай бұрын
A plane where no one will see them coming... Persona 5 reference
@Tru3kisame8 ай бұрын
"Rebirth" sounds way too much like "hard reset" and probably wipes everything clean
@VI_VA.8 ай бұрын
I have kind of a bad feeling of Jace and Vraska will only get a slap on the wrist despite planning something huge. Because it sounds like they are planning to do what the sylex was origi ally meant to do except instead of a 50% percent of the multiverse gone, thwy want to wipe out *everything* and have no idea what kind of consequence that would bring.
@autumnanderson27408 ай бұрын
If I wanted to read all of the stories where would I? I am a newer player & I have watched people recap the stories but I have always wanted to read it myself!
@MagicArcanum8 ай бұрын
There's a link in the description of this video that should take you to the official story page, and I've got a video on this channel called "Where Does Magic's Story Come From?" which will provide you with additional resources.
@autumnanderson27408 ай бұрын
@@MagicArcanum You’re the best! Thank you 🥹
@Ktjnn8 ай бұрын
Wait, Jace's mom literally used Phoenix Down on them? Fitting given that we are getting Final Fantasy.
@thegrantboom87028 ай бұрын
So is Jace ashiok the entire wilds of eldraine story or just that one prison part and this set?
@MagicArcanum8 ай бұрын
Just to free Eriette on Eldraine, and then all of Thunder Junction.