What Happens When The Dragonborn Dies? - Skyrim Theory

What happens when Skyrim's Last Dragonborn dies? In this video I delve into some interesting theories about what will happen considering the Dragonborn can potentially pledge themselves to several Daedra and Aedra in the Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.
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[@serysharpscale9703]

When the dragon born dies, he wakes up inside a carriage. "Hey you, you're finally awake."

[@daveart2079]

The Dragonborn took some acid and got stuck in limbo

[@Daxel134]

"Dragonborn?! Alduin?! Mirrak?! What are you talking about? Your in a prison wagon because of a misunderstanding!"

[@QuasoTheSapphicShipper]

I thought the Cycle of Eternal Return was from Dragon's Dogma and not TES, but well, the more you know~

[@serysharpscale9703]

@Adrian De Anda archers! *arrow immediately kills you, horse thief.

[@AlpenSkyWatcher]

Messing with time and time dragons can have that effect

[@nightterror6727]

The dragonborn is gonna go to sovngarde and every daedric prince will show up to fight over his soul. Then while the others are busy fighting Sheogorath will come in, put a cardboard cutout of the dragonborn where he's standing, then he'll grab the real one and teleport back to the shivering isles.

[@l.a4738]

I can see this lol

[@insertnameindustries9941]

Yeah my G he will take us back to that eternal party

[@namikosai9466]

My dude, Sheogorath, he's got my back

[@alexstone4236]

I mean, if he's retained some of his memories from the Hero of Kvatch, then I would run away...best shadowscale, spell weaver/slinger, and badass that ever graced Tamriel

[@matthewhavock7080]

Seems accurate

[@erikho6936]

So basically, there's gonna be a battle royale in Sovngard? And it's going to be even better then Alduins fight?

[@theLOSTranger234]

like that scene in the godzilla movie: "let them fight"

[@coreydoyle9553]

Maybe Microsoft will now make a elder scrolls battle royale

[@MrMitchbow]

Imagine at the end of the next game you kill the dragonborn then go to sovengard and partake

[@theLOSTranger234]

@@MrMitchbow well, in skyrim you do technically kill your character from the last game, sooo

[@zeikers]

The Lost Ranger how?

[@ollaniuspius1211]

The biggest custody battle in all of Mundas

[@namikosai9466]

Nah, in all of the Aurbis.

[@t.mcgarry4]

In my head canon, my dragonborn uses the dreaded Fork of Snuggles that he crafted using illegal smithing potions to one shot each daedric prince as they try to claim him, and then becomes the one true God in the elder scrolls universe (aside from blessed Todd of course)

[@deckacards]

Mod Community > Todd.

[@w4ck3ed]

@@deckacards bro please edit this to say “Todd community”

[@Ussonan-Foderation2016]

In my main character's alt realm, the Cravinwings will continue to do what they do best. Dominate Tamriel and Akavir economically and continue to dominate genetically. Elias Cravinwings, Last Dragonborn and nephew of the Hero of Kvatch, Constantinius, dies to a heart attack within Castle Volkihar surrounded by friends and family at the age of 327

[@theenderdestruction2362]

My dragonborn Is 100% gonna go full akatosh on their asses just so he can fucking rest

[@barrygormley3986]

The Dragonborn will continue to level-up after death, becoming a god in his own right.

[@l.a4738]

Like mara? Cuz she's litteraly the handmaid of kinareth so he would likely be at her level, and hopefully as benevolent as her

[@minlow7831]

jango Whatterson nah the dragon born god would just do whatever anyone asks them to do just like they did when he was alive

[@RestlessRebel]

Indeed

[@l.a4738]

@@RestlessRebel septimus why are you here

[@SirDankleberry]

@@minlow7831 Eh no different from any other main character.

[@pl1guru]

I like to think because of his power and knowledge from experience and reading Black Books that after the Dragonborn becomes High King of Skyrim due to his overwhelming power and control of dragons, then conquers Tamriel and destroying the Thalmor, that he achieves CHIM and merges with the weakened spirit of Talos to become an even greater, more powerful version of Talos, or becomes a god of his own.

[@RestlessRebel]

How did you know what I was planning?

[@pl1guru]

@@RestlessRebel Hermaus Mora told me. :)

[@Aesirfollower224]

The dragonborn is already a God literally he's a living God so he or she would pretty just rest because he or she did everything 🤣

[@omegamark9178]

That's pretty much how my head-cannon of the dragonborn goes lol

[@Vlugazoide]

Since Talos is almost a replacement of Shor, then it would make sense, especially if Akatosh really is secretly somewhat Shor.

[@edytaszafraniec7837]

I watch as Daedric Princes tear into each other fighting for my soul and munch on popcorn. Eternal gladiator games, who wouldn't like that?

[@slimretro2659]

Hermaeus Mora never had a claim on LDB's soul. LDB's soul is a part of Akatosh. It wouldn't be so easy to claim it since Akatosh has the strongest claim to it. Your race doesn't matter, your soul does. The Argonians return to the hist and the Bosmer to the earth bones because they have Argonian and Bosmer souls and also their beliefs. You have a dragonsoul. An argonian dragonborn will not return to the hist. Also, although the Aedra are said to be weak. Akatosh did get worshipped throughout multiple kalpas increasing his power and he did whoop molag bal's ass in his own realm. So let's calm down with the "he can't fight for your soul" thing. Akatosh is incredibly powerful.

[@madara992]

To be fair The official Dragonborn is a male nord who wears the iron armor and you can sell your soul to most of the daedric princes and become their champion while also having in born gifts such as the werewolf blood from hircine or the vampire lord from Molag Bal and some power with nocturnal it would be hard for Akatosh to overpower multiple Daedric princes and I would prefer a battle royale in sovngarde lmao

[@ahmedpablo6078]

@@madara992 don't even think that deadric princes would gang up on aka cuz they hate eachother as much as they hate aka

[@jankowal260]

@@ahmedpablo6078 You know who else thought that? Jyggalag.

[@theshittiestposter6853]

You reload a save.

[@taxcollector6959]

@Darth Omega is that a motherfuckin *JoJo reference*

[@liamdealmeida9914]

I was looking for this joke

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

That's not a joke... well it kinda is but that's a real thing in TES the players loading save are you using your Chim powers.

[@OmegaF77]

@@TheStrayHALOMAN Pretty much. Plus console commands.

[@-afkspycakes-1292]

Holy shit your right

[@Werrf1]

The Dragonborn will never die. They'll pull a John Constantine. When Constantine found out he had terminal lung cancer, he quickly sold his soul to several different demons. Then when he died, they all showed up to claim his soul. He pointed out that they were going to have to fight over it, which would end up destroying all of them and probably all their realms as well, at which point the demons all realised they had no choice but to ensure Constantine stayed alive until they could figure the whole situation out. The Dragonborn's situation is the same - every Aedra and Daedra they pledged themselves to has to keep them alive as long as they can, to keep the others from claiming the soul. Serious answer, I think you're underrating the power of the Aedra. We routinely see the power of the divines defeating the power of the Daedric princes. The Aedra have less 'discretionary' power - they can't manifest themselves and make pacts with mortals etc - but their power is deeper, more profound, and more tied to the natural powers and forces of the universe. They're closer to the universe, while the Daedra live outside it. In a situation as deeply tied to the universe as the cycle of life and death, I can well imagine that the _deep_ power of the Aedra could defeat the _wide_ power of the Daedra. Hell, Lorkhan's supposed to be dead, but he can still maintain Sovngarde. As for the story about the harbinger of the Companions being claimed by Hircine, I don't think that really parallels the situation of the Dragonborn. Firstly, we're talking about the dead Shor, not Akatosh; secondly, we're talking about a more or less insignificant mortal who made a foolish deal with Hircine, not the chosen champion of Akatosh. A single foolish warrior who made a bad decision to pledge himself to Hircine may well not be worth fighting for, while the Dragonborn? The Dragonborn would be worth it.

[@PhoenixFlame321]

Maybe that's why Hermaeus Mora stole Miraak off BEFORE he died, so he wouldn't have to fight Akatosh for Miraak's soul, and kept him alive, despite his champion having become extremely disloyal, so his soul would be absorbed by his replacement. So in a sense Hermaeus Mora didn't lose anything at all (that is, assuming the Last Dragonborn won't get away from Apocrypha permanently after the DLC)

[@nikola9564]

He won't die. He will go completely insane after reading 3 Elder Scrolls and 7 Black Books (just one of any of these is enough to drive an average person completely mad, mind you), and then he will be dragged to Apocrypha by Hermaus Mora to be his servant for all eternity like Septimus or Miraak were..

[@branislavcordic8227]

But Dragonborn is not an ordinary human.So that explains why he can read the Scrolls without going insane

[@commandershephard5019]

The dragon borns soul get trapped in a soul jem and used on a iron dagger

[@flouserschird]

@@branislavcordic8227Is Dragonborn canonicaly human?

[@DLD1057]

@@flouserschird majority of Dragonborn’s were believed to be nords and trailer revealed a human being dragon born so it would make sense it is one

[@Redm997]

When Dragonborn dies, he press the respawn button and respawn in the nearby location where he died.

[@john02222]

Then wouldn't they just be in a death loop if it was old age

[@damonjesus445]

This theory ignores one other. That the dragonborn is actually the reincarnation of Shor, which is why Shor's throne is empty when you visit Sovrengard. If that's the case, then no one gets the dragonborn's soul, as when his mortal form finally dies, he would simply ascend once more unto godhood. I like that theory, as it means a real pie-in-the-eye for all those others waiting to claim him as their own. God bless you in Jesus's name. Amen

[@343bungie]

I second this theory.

[@rythianblack]

What about mirrak the first dragonborn?

[@damonjesus445]

@@rythianblack What about him? The theory doesn't state that every dragonborn is a reincarnation, just the last one.

[@rythianblack]

@@damonjesus445 then what's the difference between the two? Where does this theory come from

[@343bungie]

@@rythianblack apparently the theory is that the last dragon born, who is prophesized to kill Alduin, is the reincarnation/aspect of Shor. Idk the whole theory but i know one of the pieces of evidence is the fact that during that one quest in the Reach, Talos' old friend's ghost thought the dragon born WAS Talos. And i know that had something to do with it.

[@zacknstuff1611]

I think that a massive god war for the Dragonborn’s soul would be a fantastic plot for future games

[@keithhunter179]

I feel like the dragonborn's story is one of him/her ascending to become a new god or god-like. During the dragonborn's journey, they read multiple elder scrolls, the oghma infinium, seven black books, As well as multiple books in Hermeaus Mora's realm which not only grant you power and let's you exit the realm but most likely grants you knowledge as well. They also wield tons of different Aedra and Daedric weapons and artifacts. And if that wasn't enough, the dragonborn slays countless dragons. And with each dragon's death, they absorb the dragons soul, knowledge and life force. And remember dragons are ageless beings, so one dragon soul could contain an untold amount of knowledge and secrets. I don't think the dragonborn goes crazy or eventually gets trapped anywhere like Hermaus Mora's realm. I think when the dragonborn's life is over, instead of dying, they will ascend, to become a god (like Talos did) or become the new world eater or maybe even return to Sovengarde to rule over there (which is why Shor's throne is empty and you can sit in it.)

[@morrigankasa570]

I think when the Dragonborn dies the various Daedra and Aedra that the Dragonborn has connections to will all appear before them, then the Dragonborn will choose who they go with

[@l.a4738]

I think there will still be AT LEAST some discussion about it

[@morrigankasa570]

@@l.a4738 maybe but still think the Dragonborn will have final say

[@Aesirfollower224]

The dragonborn would probably find a loophole where they will be reincarnated.

[@Existential-Paradigm]

The Dragonborn pulls out his 20 million damage iron dagger and one shots every last one of them, claiming THEIR souls.

[@morrigankasa570]

@@Existential-Paradigm lol

[@VERGILGASM]

My story: As Dragonborn opens his eyes, before him he sees all the Daedric Princes, whom he served to. They wanted to battle for his soul, but Hermaus Mora had a different solution to their issue. Let the Dragonborn face their champions, and if he loses, Daedra who's champion defeated him shall claim his soul. After he picks up his sword, he prepares to head to the arena, and first champion he faces is the champion of Boethiah. They draw their blades, ready to face eachother. Dragonborn slashes forward, but his foe is much faster, and smarter. He slashes above him, so Dragonborn is forced to block it, getting staggersd in the process. His foe manages to kick him. Dragonborn falls to the ground, but he cannot get up. He is too weak. And just as he got ready to accept his fate, and the Champion he fought against raises his blade, he hears: *"Yol, TOR SHUL!"* , up burning him away. Daedra turn to see who did it, thinking someone broke the truce. And upon sesein who done it, they all scream in terror, fleeing. As Dragonborn looks up he sees a large, orange dragon. Before he has a chance to do anything, dragon rises his head and says: "Hun Daal Hofkiin!" Everything goes black, and as he opens his eyes, he sees nothing, but also everything. Next to him is the same orange dragon he saw before. There also stands Alduin. Orange dragon looks him and says: "You've done well. But it was never your's to decide the fate of Nirn. Daedra tried to take another child of mine away. I would never let them do it again. All Dov belong to me, and so do their souls." He turns his head to the black dovah, saying: "It is time, Alduin." Alduin approaches the Last Dragonborn. He opens his mouth and speaks: "Hail, Dovahkiin, you who waged war with me since you knew of the World Eater. We finnaly meet, and part in peace." He says, before flying away. After some time, bright, blue light glows. "It's done, at last." Akatosh says, as world fades away, in darkness. However, a light starts returning, and as Dragonborn opens his eyes he hears: *"Hey you, you're finnaly awake."*

[@A39pro]

You how dare you lure me Into a joke you get my like but dam you

[@tigremc]

They all wait for 1000 years after Skyrim, then they realize the dragonborn is a vampire and wait another 1000 years for him/her to get themselves killed. Afterwards, they watch his every step together on their hyperdimensional couch through a hyperdimensional TV for all eternity. This meant that they stopped answering prayers from followers, but it didn't matter because the dragonborn had already sold almost all their artifacts to random vendors, and only kept a few, which he keeps using.

[@greenknightofwar7024]

Here’s my question, how mischievous is your soul worth claiming? Sure the Dragonborn is a powerful being, but would the daedra really drop what there doing and have a massive civil war over one person.

[@namikosai9466]

Yes.

[@FonkDerok]

He's not just one person, he's potentially the last dragonborn, and regardless a very powerful one to have defeated the firstborn of Akatosh before he could devour the world

[@ishtara9470]

It's also probably a matter of pride for the daedric princes. Losing a claimed soul to another daedra is probably pretty humiliating to them.

[@mikecobalt7005]

Ego, Bragging Rights (Divines are all about that) and considering everything *This DB has done including defeating Alduin I believe it would be a big fight. A super beat down/bar fight in Sovengarde, Everybody jumps(So many top class fighters) in possibly including agents of other gods.

[@jedimike7622]

Besides, it's not like any of them really have anything better to do these days.

[@rezamehraein1583]

There is a theory that the Dragonborn is in fact a Shezzarine. An incarnation of shor aka Lorkhan. Talos was a Shezzarine too. Wulfhearth too. So technically the Dragonborn, Talos, Wulfhearth and Lorkhan are the same entity. Even after tearing out Lorkhan's heart, Auriel and Trinimac and no other god could claim Lorkhan's soul. Because he was a god damn god himself. If his soul was claimable someone would have claimed it by now. So I think Dragonborn's soul is very well beyond being claimed by anyone.

[@Aesirfollower224]

It's not really a theory since it was basically thrown at our faces and all the evidence proves the dragonborn is a God but even though he have gotten gifts from every God so where does his soul go?

[@rezamehraein1583]

@@Aesirfollower224 Outside the godhead's dream I suppose. You know since as Talos he acheived chime.

[@dutchpatriot17]

Talos wasn't the Shezzarine. Talos isn't Lorkhan either; that's just a fanmade theory with very little backing it up. There's nothing indicating the LDB is the Shezzarine.

[@dutchpatriot17]

@@rezamehraein1583 Unsure what you did, but I can't see your last comment.

[@rezamehraein1583]

@@dutchpatriot17 Yeah I couldn't edit my comment so I deleted it and wrote it again.

[@brokenursa9986]

As far as I can tell, assuming all quests are canon, only Akatosh, Molag Bal, Hermaeus Mora, Boethiah, Mehrunes Dagon, Sithis, Hircine, and Nocturnal actually have a guaranteed claim to the Dragonborn's soul. Shor only gets it if the Dragonborn is a Nord, and most of the Daedra don't need you to pledge allegiance to them. Granted, that's still a large field of candidates, but far less than the alternative could be.

[@pablito-e]

When does The Dragonborn pledge their soul to Molag Bal, Boethiah, or Mehrunes Dagon?

[@cstains5543]

There isn't going to be a fight over the Dragonborn's soul. The Dragonborn is a stand in for the Thor role in the Norse Death of the World Tree mythos. In that mythos Thor fights the world tree killing creature numerous times before finally being defeated which brings on the end of the world. However in the mythos as the World Tree dies (Kapla ends) the Tree comes back to life in a new form and Thor or whatever his name now is starts the whole process against the same world killing enemy all over again. The Dragonborn and Alduin are linked, trapped in a permanent war between mortal and immortal sides of time, that's why you can't absorb Alduin's soul after defeating him in the game, Alduin probably does not even fully understand that killing you ends the world as he is in effect killing the mortal side of time which is both eternal and finite, and also in effect killing himself. It's also why Alduin seems to be able to bring back almost any dragon he wants to bring back. He is in effect drawing dragon souls from the pool you, the Dragonborn, previously put them in during your last physical manifestation. When the Dragonborn dies he probably goes back to sleep with Alduin, or returns to become part of the "sleeping god" to await the next turn of the prophetic page and the next end of world moment. You and Alduin are two sides of the same god, Alduin is sleeping most of the time and you are part of that mortal dream of an immortal deity. So no matter how many Princes you promise yourself to no matter how weird you run your character in the end you are Alduin and Alduin is you and everybody gets nothing because you die and return to sleep with the rest of your scaly existence.

[@orcslayerwhatifs4507]

👏 beautiful

[@slimretro2659]

Nice, I like it, but thats just a head canon.

[@TheDragonCat99]

Interesting! To expand on this theory, Akatosh himself is often depicted with two heads or two faces - one of a man, and one of a dragon. What if these heads are Alduin and the Dragonborn? What if the two of them are two sides of the coin that is Akatosh? Probably doesn’t mesh with canon, but it’s cool to think about!

[@V-V1875-h]

Aligns with what Parthurnax says

[@Acronimz]

The dragonborn will probably never die. He'll live in Mora's realm for eons then from there will probably time travel to the past or future

[@Redhollow]

@8IghtyFour it's either the dragonborn comes along or he kills him. HM has probably been shown to directly killed more people in the immediate Skyrim lore than any of the aedras or daedras (I don't count killed by proxy or "used the dragonborn to do their bidding," I mean killed them himself). He may be the weakest of the deities, but he's still no pushover. Frankly, HM doesn't have control over Skyrim because his priority isn't conquest, it's acquisition of knowledge and the power therein.

[@Balinux]

This is the most likely outcome.

[@Acronimz]

@8IghtyFour but the last dragonborn canonically served mora twice. That looks like a solid pact to me. Also he canonically has been to apocrypha multiple times and ended up replacing miraak who was stuck there only cus he was weak.

[@SirDankleberry]

Mora wishes he could control a reincarnation of Lorkhan.

[@Acronimz]

@@SirDankleberry he won't really, the last dragonborn will not be stuck in apocrypha like miraak. But he will stay there for a long time or move to another time . I think it's a good way to make him disappear for TES 6

[@downix]

The Dragonborn is immortal because none of the Daedra will let him die, else cause the fight over his soul

[@K1NG_of_ReVeNGe1]

I my headcannon there won't be a battle or anything like that over DB's Soul. I think that the DB can simply choose where to go based on his power. I mean.. He basically is the most powerful mortal being in the entire universe, aside from Talos who literally became a god So it could wery well be the DB's choice Or there's a long checkout line like in the one spongebob episode where Krabs sold spongies soul to like 100 Monsters lmao

[@Emilybackfisch]

I think in the next game they should have a system where instead of being every dadric princes champion it would be more like the standing stones where one chose one and gain a buff and if you want a different buff and you’ve done the quest for a different dadric prince then you just switch who’s champion you are, they could even make a dialogue with shaogorath where he explains that it was a problem before but now all the princes agreed on this to make it simpler

[@Ceyrenn460]

My Dragonborn is sitting safe, in his secluded island castle in the Sea of Ghosts

[@tut-4126]

The Elder Scrolls 6: Sovngarde - Battle Royal

[@TheMetalAllfather]

Canonically speaking, The Dovakiin is Nord. The only gods who have a rightful claim to his soul are Akatosh, and Hermaous Mora. He's technically not even a *person* so much as he's just a living aspect of Akatosh.

[@itsmellslikeupdoginhere5756]

What if the Dragonborn could replace Hermaeus Mora? Sort of how the HOK did? Food for thought.

[@TheImmortalBloodwolf]

I have 2 theories..... theory number one and the Funny one... Is when the daedric princes arrive To steal the last dragonborns soul... Akatosh simply says "What soul??? You mean the one that doesn't exist anymore become it is a part of me???" Or theory number 2 Which is we should probably stop thinking about the dragonborns soul as a singular thing... For every dragon they killed they Probably have A entirely separate soul.... Give one to each daedric prince that is Owed one then send the soul That actually Contains him to whatever Afterlife he wants And the rest are just blank souls

[@zigsterabs7439]

It's heavily implied that he'll become Hermaus Mora's new champion. But remember- Neloth said you aren't under his influence as much as Mora thinks Personally I think there's 2 possibilities: 1) He becomes Hermaus Mora's new champion BUT he'll have more freedom compared to Miraak. He won't be in apocrypha forever 2) Akatosh claims his soul

[@tedrpz]

if their is a battle over the dragonborns soul in anyway the determining factor would most likely be what plane the battle if waged on as most deities (be that daedric or daedric) are significantly less powerful in another deities plane

[@khartog01]

My head canon is it ends up being a huge meeting between all the gods and daedra deciding on Dovahkiin. The Dovahkiin just ends up with the power to decide his own fate.

[@maro_1138]

I like to picture a nasty custody battle ensuing amongst Akatosh and all the daedric princes. Hermaeus Mora: "He's mine! He slew Miraak and took his place at my side!" Akatosh: "Well, I practically MADE him what he is! He wouldn't have become your champion had it not been for me!" Hircine: *growls*

[@ashiagefa646]

Dragonborn has a resiliant soul, wherever he/she goes, a way will present itself, imagine your game character's soul being fought over by daedric lords, and you just do nothing about it? I fully expect my dragonborn to do a comeback like Miraak.

[@pppopo7956]

I feel like the dragon born would choose to fight with a specific prince and with the dragon borns help will win

[@Animefreakess]

I put forward a theory. The dragon born is the ultimate recycled form. They are the hero from previous games and the future games. (I know there is the issue with the neverine and their immortality, but they could have had it removed by the psijit order.) Mentioning the fact that souls are recycled (a lá reincarnation) and not dispersed like say the good place lore is a bit of a clue. After all, they all end up in jail. They need the hero to have a soul to make the exact same mistakes in different lives...

[@Riley_Mundt]

As far as canon is concerned, only Akatosh and Hermaeus Mora have any claim to Laat Dovahkiin. Since there is nothing to suggest that Laat Dovahkiin will betray Hermaeus Mora's trust as Miraak did, it is entirely possible that if/when Hermaeus Mora sees a decline in Laat Dovahkiin's usefulness he will simply relinquish his claim to Akatosh.

[@mattjohnson5855]

Before people get to ahead of their self remember what the leader of the greybeards told the dragonborn that they are an exception to all the rules ultimately the dragonborn can pretty much do whatever they please so yes Tyler septum AKA Talos and akatosh are honestly the only ones that could really claim the dragonborn if you want to look at it like that

[@dlpsr2361]

But Clavicus vile claims the dragonborn is as powerful as a daedric prince!

[@gambitsheild9814]

The issue is likely that unless the daedric princes show up themselves the dragonborn might singlehandedly beat whatever minions are sent to collect him.

[@warhawk9566]

I think Hermaeus Mora trumps them because the Dragonborn literally has a contract with him while others just kinda had him as a champion for 5 minutes

[@RosheenQuynh]

I'd like to think that the Dragonborn is powerful enough to walk any plane they wish. Any or all, if so chosen. Spend a night in the Hunting Grounds, spend a day in Sovngarde... Their choice; they DID slay Alduin, after all.

[@ishtara9470]

It would be fun if the aedra and daedra managed a way to split a person's soul, and keep the piece in their respective dimensions (for the daedra). Then the next hero (TES6?) will go on a quest to retrieve DB's soul pieces from various aedra and daedra, put it back together, and laid the DB to rest. It can be like a cautionary tale 'do not plead allegiance to more than one god' or something.

[@sidiglesias9538]

It's 2020, and I still love skyrim like a mad kid.

[@bobpage6597]

My own opinion, not too clued up on all the Lore, but.....maybe given the uniqueness of the Dragonborn maybe he'll be given the choice upon death where he wants to go dependent on which deities he has been involved with.

[@hobomark430]

The real question is... who would claim Nazeem's soul from Cloud district?

[@tyisenhour1393]

I have nothing to back it up but I think it would be cool if Dragonborn pulled a Talos and became a god himself. Technically the oblivion main character became a God too and the morrowind character was already immortal so it's not like it's totally out of the question.

[@plebeianmedia1080]

The Dragonborn’s soul being pledged to multiple divine entities is seen as a great offense and all daedric princes save for sheogorath fight for his soul, meanwhile molag bal takes serana to coulharbor as ransom, the dragon born then proceeds to eat all remaining dragon souls until he is nearly a divine himself to take molag bal on and dibella lobbies the rest of the divines to help the dragon born get his true love back

[@oliverp3545]

What I'd imagine happening is that the Dragonborn just gives out dragon souls to each of the princes as they are technically part of his soul but as we can see they arent exactly the same as his soul.

[@theLOSTranger234]

what I think. when it comes to WHO or WHAT (race) the dragonborn is... in the skyrim trailers and that one live action trailer bethesda did, the Dragonborn in canon is likely a Nord. and since he's suppose to be the "good guy" think only the main quest (whatever side actually won, who knows) and probably the companion quest too is canon (any side quest with the dark brotherhood or thieves guild or deadra quests are just side quests that is from "someone else" doing it, / but we the player just doing it to see it.

[@sultanhusain1233]

I do think so too!

[@adamxei9073]

I had no idea what the dream sleeve was and it was the smallest thing that he talked about. Hey it's pretty freaking cool though. Basically our form of reincarnation.

[@supergenius6256]

If he dies, he'll wake up in a cart, but things are different...TES VI(Butnotreally) gets brandished across the screen

[@Godzillawolf1]

One thing to note is that Akatosh seems to still be extremely powerful despite that sacrificed power. Don't forget his Avatar in Oblivion was capable of defeating Mehrunes Dagon in a one on one fight, implying at a bare minimum, he's on par with a Daedric Prince. And the implication was that was actually Mehrunes Dagon, not an avatar, so Akatosh might actually exceed him in strength at his full might, especially within his own realm. Which makes sense, he is the Top God.

[@son-of-god-]

Godd Howard claims the dragonborn's soul

[@iskdea8461]

What if they become a vampire? That way, they can live forever, and considering that with age they will inevitably become more powerful, the dragonborn will be unstoppable

[@kamikazeuz2227]

Ye but the dragonborn can still choke on a sweet roll and die, after that its cold harbor because the dragonborn is a vampire

[@iskdea8461]

@@kamikazeuz2227 I mean, they're not required to eat sweet rolls, all they need is blood

[@jedimike7622]

@@iskdea8461 bold of you to assume the DB would just give up sweetrolls.

[@Existential-Paradigm]

Hit that alchemy hard, everything you do after a few Resto potions will make the gods look like the insignificant maggots they are.

[@pavelslama5543]

Dragonborn pulls a Talos move at the last minute and screws up the fan of each one of those deities...

[@sale2168]

What about the theory that the dragonborn is shor himself? It's fan theory i guess, but is there a possibility?

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

A war in the heavenly aurbis of artherius and oblivion for the dovahkiin's soul. Yea that's gonna have cataclysmic aftershocks on Nirn if not the whole of Mundus.

[@moriko07]

It depends on his conduct. He will go to akatosh, kynareth or talos, or to Sovengard. Dragon's blood is said to cyclically appear as needed.

[@muther1997]

My theory is that the dragonborn is actually a reincarnated shor or lorkin who has reincarnated as several heros, like talos. Once he dies no daedra will claim him because his soul is already divine. The body limits his power, but in death he will return to soveringaurd or something

[@gakarugaming4561]

I'd like to think that a Thu'um Mastered Dragonborn might stand a chance against a somewhat weakened daedric prince.

[@bernardoguittileite680]

I believe that completing all of the daedric side quests is most likely simply a choice for the players. The dragonborn is not just "someone that is figuring out TES lore", he actually lives in Tamriel and knows a fair bunch of it. That said, it's most likely that he woldn't pledge his soul to all of the Daedric Princes. The Dragonborn DLC however, is something that has more at play than just a Daedra, it has Miraak threatning Tamriel so it's likely that the last dragonborn would take interest in finding out more. As for what I believe will be his fate, Hermaeus Mora has a good chance to keep the Dragonborn as his servant (not necessarily when he dies, for he's been keeping Miraak alive for years). I think that the killing of Miraak by his hands (or should I say, "tentacles") served as an example to the last dragonborn -"you either pledge allegiance to me or you die" sort of thing - let's not forget that the Dovahkiin was in Mora's realm, so the Prince could do anything he actually liked (unless the protagonist is indeed an avatar of Shor, then he would stand a little more chance against Mora). Another argument for this is that Bethesda likes to "vanish" with the Elder Scrolls protagonists, so maybe an ending in Apocrypha for the last dragonborn is at play.

[@daubenyshowyourself8455]

I think it's canon that the last dragonborn is a nord. Just like the hero of kvatch is an imperial and the nerevarine a dunmer. So after the dragonborns death he arrives at sovngarde. Idk but i think that several dragonborns, thousands of nord heroes and a literal god are kinda more powerful than a deadra prince...it's shor's realm after all

[@LegatusLucius1994]

Well I'm not sure he might have still had contact with sanguine if you're planning as a Nord and you've just defeated your first dragon going to the banneredmare for a well-deserved a drink you might still meet him

[@AzureChild]

I think the dragonborn will probably be in something similar to purgatory cause they wont know where to send the soul

[@fulltimeslackerii8229]

“The dragon born isn’t as strong as a daedric prince” Ahhh but didn’t Clavicus the Vile state that in his weakened state, the dragon born was even stronger than he was? Whose to say that by the time of his death, the dragon born can’t reach their level?

[@lightyagami8645]

He was talking about an avatar The original Et Ada Spirit is outerversal in power

[@Wyte-noyz]

My head Canon is that the dragon born used his knowledge gained from the elder scrolls and hermaeus Mora to achieve godhood and leave nirn and mundus all together in order to escape hermaeus Mora. Where he may be currently is unknown. But he's effectively immortal.

[@azadisoleil6319]

They escaped the dream! Dragonborn is the new dreamer!

[@madara992]

So pretty much Dragonborn

[@Sumschmuck]

So basically when the dragonborn dies, the apocalypse begins as the Gods start throwing everything from demons, eldrich abominations, vampires, dark brotherhood assassins, and misc at eachother just to claim the soul of the dragonborn

[@danielendless]

2:43 Did you forget the part where Alduin bullies Mehrunes Dagon, one of the most powerful Daedric Princes, and the DB slaps Alduin Or the part where Herma Mora couldn't be rid of Miraak and needs the DB to beat him up to 1Hp first so he could kill steal

[@John_James]

Miraak's soul was absorbed by dragonborn not Mora so his soul is going to be absorbed by Akatosh going back like Alduin

[@thesandwich5321]

My personal theory would be that if the dragonborn pledged their loyalty to most of the princes, the daedra would tear their souls apart. But it would be one helluva battle.

[@briansanders8122]

You didn't mention the Thieves Guild questline at all? What if the Dragonborn is a Nightingale and a Werewolf at the same time? And how much claim does Hermaeus Mora *really* have on the Dragonborn's soul? What if the Dragonborn just flipped off Mora after Miraak's death?

[@madara992]

Wouldn’t it make sense that since the Dragonborn is technically A dragon would he have a longer expectancy? Like hundred of years like Brothurnax and since we devoured so many souls of weak and lesser dragons and strong and powerful Ancient or Elder dragons it would make sense to extend Dovahkiins life since Dragons are all about literal empowerment over one another that it’s their nature ?

[@garuelx8627]

I'm guessing Akatosh claims the Dragonborn since he called it first, but I wouldn't be surprised if their death causes another dragon break like the Warp in the West where the Dragonborn's soul ends up going everywhere, oblivion and aetherius.

[@wd3185]

I always figured that since the Dragonborn's own soul is that of a dragon's, and thus a part of Akatosh's wider soul in the same vein that Alduin and the other dragons are, that he wouldn't go to _any_ afterlife and instead simply become a part of Akatosh again.

[@joelrobinson5457]

I'd love if the dragonborn just ascends and goes around oblivion gathering souls for his own custom divine realm

[@thedemonofrazgriz3602]

Short answer : Herma Mora: *Tosses Dragonborn into his realm* YEET

[@dynamism_1991]

In my case, the Daedras fought 792725279082531342 times for my soul just for me to reload the game

[@blackcomet2nd950]

I like to think that being the dragon born Akatosh holds the highest right over their soul and will be the first to claim it before the daedric prince’s will and there will be a great battle between any of the daedra that the dragon born serves against Akatosh but Akatosh will come out on top with the dragon born and an army of dragons and he will send the Dragon born to sovenguard. I say that the dragon born will go to sovunguard because Tsun says that when we die he will welcome us back to Shors hall no matter what race we are in the elder scrolls.

[@maxteraform]

Akatosh is not an ordinary Aedra though. He is together with Lorkhan, the direct "child" of a cosmic force, an original God. So he should be stronger than the normal Aedra like Stendarr.

[@sean1139]

The last dragonborn will have a messianic return eventually to claim the title of Tamriel's emperor and defeat the dominion and alduin(since he didn't really die just transported to the future) once and for all

[@insertnameindustries9941]

Dragonborn hell is being stuck with nazeem and braith for all eternity

[@Kotaneth]

Isnt the Dragon Born a Shezzarine? Meaning his soul just reincarnates into whoevers our next protagonist is.

[@Delete240]

No

[@TNDchud1488]

Akatosh is infinitely more powerful that the deadra, as for the other divines, they vary in power, but akatosh is the supreme god of all things considering that without time the aurbis could not form,the et'ada couldn't form and become the deadra and aedra were it not for him. even if he did give up a portion of his power, he will always remain the strongest because he controls time and actually IS time itself, and without time, nothing can be, happen, or have happened.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

Akatosh Is also a weaker aedra who lost proportions of his power at the beginning of creation. Remember aadra permanently spent power on the mundus creation. Daedra did not. Therefore so what happened is simple. Obviously. While a Akatosh avatar can fight a Mehrunes Dagon avatar. The main god himself fighting several gods, not just avatars of the spirit. Akatosh might be overpowered.

[@swooshswish4063]

I think they will come up with something new, something isolated for the dragonborn. like a safe haven that they made. or they will just say that there was a conflict but the dragonborn won and went to their chosen realm, whatever it may be.

[@jkthedovahkiin1656]

I'd say that the one who will claim the Dragonborn's Souls will be either Sithis or Nocturnal.

[@swolebowl1693]

Nocturnal is my bet too, DB literally makes worst trade deal in history with her and for armor like tf

[@Existential-Paradigm]

They both get one shotted by my 28 million damage wooden sword.

[@oshikuru09]

In every generation there is a slayer, she alone must face the forces of darkness...

[@gravytrainn]

The game won’t let you die until you’ve collected all the crimson nirnroot and stones of baranziah

[@nbHawkeye]

If the Dragonborn took on the role as Listener he will go to the void, no questions asked.

[@trustyrex1014]

What happens on nirn: The dragon born is laid to rest and his closest companions and chosen spouse auction off his gathered gear, daedric artifacts, and treasures.

[@Detah_]

Honestly having a dlc or significant story beat of TES6 being a war among aedra and daedra over the dragon born would be sick.

[@jareddebeast]

Basically it’s like the civil war no side wins unless the Dragonborn is on their side

[@LtBlankman]

A question. If Miraak escaped and you as the Last Dragonborn are aren't realized as such by the Greybeards. Who do the Blades seek out for their "Dragonslayer" Do multiple Dragonborn have a "rank" on one another or does he/she have the option of choice? We know Miraak's stance on defeating Alduin. & the likelihood is that Miraak would just Bend Will Delphine and Esbern and take over the world. Makes you think if Miraak was a few moments faster & you were hours behind of delivering the Dragonstone and slaying that dragon Skyrim would have been a much different game.

[@TheTrueBigWill]

Arngeir says it himself, the Dragonborn is an exception to all the rules, I hope he goes to Sovengarde.

[@azadisoleil6319]

The black books speak of the Godhead soooooooo CHIM

[@zylliax249]

Defeating Alduin is a feat that can't be unnoticed. And who is to say that the DB is just another mortal blessed by Akatosh, there has been theories of the DB being Shor, or Lorkhan.

[@erikkr.r.m7380]

He just respawns in the latest quicksave