What Happens When the Woman Is the Breadwinner of Household?

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@mikew2610
@mikew2610 4 жыл бұрын
Women making more money isn't the problem. The problem is when women always remind their significant other of it although it is not every case.
@shakira9468
@shakira9468 Жыл бұрын
Men do that all the times,from the beginning of time,and that's what men like to have control of the women and disrespect her,money don't make you better or a better partner
@rroberts7073
@rroberts7073 4 жыл бұрын
Breadwinner Depression for women is a real thing.
@IEcliipeZ
@IEcliipeZ 4 жыл бұрын
Breadwinner depression for people is a real thing.
@maurinoshi
@maurinoshi 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you pointing this out. I've searching for resources in how to explain what I was feeling. I wasn't sure if what I feel is fair to my husband. Every female breadwinner is like let's celebrate this or hurray because it's 2020 already. It's time for gender equality. But I am here feeling not taken care of, feeling alone. Finally someone who got the exact simple words. It helps a lot..
@batirtzeurkiaga4973
@batirtzeurkiaga4973 4 жыл бұрын
@@maurinoshi That's right. I think it's lonely regardless of gender. Too many distractions out there. But there IS a great community of people who think and feel the way we do, luckily. Keep it up! 🙋🙋🙋🙋🙋
@jennysheets
@jennysheets 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of feeling that now. As a woman Ive had to work my ass off. Im exhausted. My husband I feel is taking advantage of me. Its painful. I dont mind working hard but I need a partner. I dont know what to do
@omowhanre
@omowhanre 3 жыл бұрын
@@jennysheets wow, that sounds so difficult. I hope you're in a better place now. ❤
@Parfumchloe
@Parfumchloe 2 жыл бұрын
As a woman, I can wholeheartedly attest that I do not want to be the breadwinner in my marriage. That is my husband's job to be a provider and protector. I much rather be a housewife, homemaker, and stay at home mom. I don't see why women fight tooth and nail to be stronger than men or want to do a man's job. 🙅🏾‍♀️
@tiger2q
@tiger2q Жыл бұрын
In what rule book does it say that the man is supposed to be the breadwinner? So because im the man, that means im supposed to pay for all or most of the household stuff while the woman can do whatever she wants with her money? That doesnt seem fair at all and actually sounds kinda selfish in my opinion. One last question, God forbid something happens to your husband to where hes unable to work for an extended period of time. What are u going to do then, step up and support him and the family, or divorce him simply because u dont wanna be the breadwinner?
@user-kp4jh6jo3r
@user-kp4jh6jo3r Жыл бұрын
I don't care , what I've learnt about women is they will switch their sides from feminism to traditionally when they see benifits.
@noluthandonemakonde8115
@noluthandonemakonde8115 Жыл бұрын
​@@tiger2qthe bible
@yournightmare7197
@yournightmare7197 Жыл бұрын
As a woman I wanna be the breadwinner, it’s not my job to take care of the house unless I choose so.
@Cateater123
@Cateater123 Жыл бұрын
They want the man to do the man's job and also want men to do the woman's job .
@islandgirlruby2750
@islandgirlruby2750 4 жыл бұрын
Men are wired to be protectors and providers that's when they are at their best. Women are wired to live in their feminity when the roles are reversed that's when the trouble starts.
@Adam-cc9ny
@Adam-cc9ny 4 жыл бұрын
@?? Name one community where women rung the whole show. When I was in college I remember learning in Anthropology class how even societies where women held all the decision making power they still elected males to be in charge, although they would only elect the most competent ones who could get things done. As my anthropology professor stated, the female of our species prefers to rule by proxy, or in other words, she prefers it when the man is in charge but only if he rules with her best interests in mind. Which actually makes sense from an evolutionary point of view. Women are attracted to men whom they can trust with their life, sometimes literally, so that they may be vulnerable bearing children and depend almost entirely on the man to provide and protect her AND the kids. It used to be a win win. Men got to pass on their genes AND literally protect their own offspring by being an influence in their lives and the women got all the benefits of the protection from the man and his resources as well as passing on her own genes with a strong male thus passing on his strong qualities to her own offspring.
@SpartacusQuoVadis
@SpartacusQuoVadis 4 жыл бұрын
Psalms121 I would love when my wife 👩🏾 submits to me. I would be her King 🤴 and she would be my Queen 👸
@naikjoy
@naikjoy 2 жыл бұрын
Im a guy and I messed up my life but I still would want to wake up with a woman by my side. I would love to be a provider and protector and everything possibly including being awesome but I'm not. In this case I would have to accept her as the breadwinner.
@marcelzed1154
@marcelzed1154 2 жыл бұрын
@@naikjoy consider this. She may be the provider, but you could still train to be a strong man and become a skilled and awesome protector
@naikjoy
@naikjoy 2 жыл бұрын
​@@marcelzed1154 The idiom "Behind every great man is a great woman" is defined as an expression in use at least since the mid-1940s. The woman in question usually is a wife or a mother; the observation is that no man gets to be "great" in a vacuum, and some woman, somewhere, had a hand in the man's success.
@mochamommyATX
@mochamommyATX 5 жыл бұрын
There have been MULTIPLE studies done on how out earning your man is very detrimental. Many men THINK they like equality because they don't want the FULL pressure of supporting the family, but there is an expectation of the one who earns less takes on more domestic duties and most men find that EMASCULATING. I say this from experience.
@makeitpop1780
@makeitpop1780 4 жыл бұрын
You've dated most men?
@goticothepra
@goticothepra 3 жыл бұрын
Men and women draw pleasure out of different things in life. Being a bread winner for a man allows us to provide and care for those we love most. A woman being a breadwinner brings her depression. You cannot make this up….
@Cherryblossoms110
@Cherryblossoms110 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't that the fault of society as a whole for putting these expectations on men, then? The only reason why they would feel emasculating is because they have become insecure about their masculinity. Even now, society is unfair to men-see, we tend to MOCK men for feeling insecure about their masculinity, because we still have these unfair beliefs of 'masculinity'-society dictates that they are not allowed to express any emotion other than anger... so of course, inevitably, we end up with some (not all) women who mock men for feeling insecure, which causes some (not all) men to express their emotions in the only way they were traditionally taught how-anger-at women. The only solution here is to acknowledge that men are also humans and to help them get through their insecurities and understand that making a lower salary doesn't make them any less of a man. The same is true for women-just because they make more than their man does not make them any less feminine.
@legendarylunatic4738
@legendarylunatic4738 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cherryblossoms110 I don't think society has ever dictated that men aren't allowed to express any emotions other than anger. I'm curious as to what you've experienced in life where you think anyone has taught anyone else that a man can only express anger. I think it has less to do with masculinity/femininity though. The issue is that if you took out paid maternity leaves, that families would have no means to provide for their kids. More importantly, maternity leaves are costly to companies. They have to pay you for having a child while paying another worker to replace you for several weeks. And if most people decide not to have children, then the society will gradually depopulate. It's the modern analogue to why most species are patriarchal and why men generally make better breadwinners. It's a combination of factors pertaining to why a society survives, and how it tries to balance survival with economic growth.
@MusicPLUSBusiness
@MusicPLUSBusiness 2 жыл бұрын
@@legendarylunatic4738 Both men and women continue to get payment from their employer when the baby is born if it's a good company. This is irrelevant.
@Useryoutube02847
@Useryoutube02847 8 ай бұрын
Shoot, I’m a guy and I really don’t mind if she make a lot of money then me. Just as long as she treat me with respects like an authority figure and someone to look up to. Guys that don’t feel good about women making more money them is insecure.
@user-hn9qw7ou8d
@user-hn9qw7ou8d Ай бұрын
Women can pretend to respect a man who makes less money/has an inferior earning potential, but the vast majority of us can never genuinely respect such a man. It’s a competence thing. The vast majority of us can only truly respect a man who possesses more competence in a free market.
@Useryoutube02847
@Useryoutube02847 Ай бұрын
@@user-hn9qw7ou8d if you can’t genuinely respect a man if he make less then you. Then you should be ashamed of yourself as a so called woman. You do not represent all women.
@omowhanre
@omowhanre 3 жыл бұрын
All this is well and good until pregnancy, breastfeeding and child-rearing enters the picture. To each is own.
@amburprice8479
@amburprice8479 2 жыл бұрын
Not everyone wants children though, so this isn’t an end all be all.
@ShreyaRajput-Singha
@ShreyaRajput-Singha Жыл бұрын
Pregnancy, breastfeeding are just temporary May take maximum 1-2 years of lives & sometimes many women can go through career progression during these times too Besides so many other options are available today & Child rearing is not only mother's job
@tinaamaa7380
@tinaamaa7380 Жыл бұрын
I learned the hard way.
@Arsena
@Arsena 10 ай бұрын
Explain!! That’s why I’m here lol I’m so curious how that plays out!
@Benstyping
@Benstyping 4 жыл бұрын
"We know that men are defined by their income", after just disgustingly saying, "NOTHING". And then divorces him. And everyone's like, good move.
@noluthandonemakonde8115
@noluthandonemakonde8115 Жыл бұрын
She was probably exhausted of taking care of the household responsibilities as well as the finances while the husband is "chasing" his dreams 😢 it's not that black and white. The man should have accumulated funds to fund his dream and not just let everything on the wife
@edrickbetancourtesquilin162
@edrickbetancourtesquilin162 Жыл бұрын
@@noluthandonemakonde8115And do you believe a man can be the breadwinner even if she’s not even chasing her dreams?
@makeitpop1780
@makeitpop1780 4 жыл бұрын
Women that feel like it’s a mans job to earn the money will also become depressed if she one day becomes the breadwinner.
@neneosei7168
@neneosei7168 Жыл бұрын
She doesn't have to ever put herself in that situation.
@Cateater123
@Cateater123 Жыл бұрын
Similarly she should do all the chores and be submissive
@jennysheets
@jennysheets 3 жыл бұрын
I dont want to be the sole bread winner. Ive out myself through school twice. Im giving hil until den. Then tapping out. Its Not about money...its about being taken advance of. Im tired
@tishataray
@tishataray 3 жыл бұрын
Right
@youtubedoesntcareaboutfals4098
@youtubedoesntcareaboutfals4098 4 ай бұрын
Can't afford me 💅💅💅
@MonieMoneSays
@MonieMoneSays 4 жыл бұрын
I’m the breadwinner now and I hate it.
@maurinoshi
@maurinoshi 4 жыл бұрын
I feel not taken care of and can't tend to my kid properly because I'm too busy 😓
@neneosei7168
@neneosei7168 4 жыл бұрын
Quit your job and he has to step up and provide..... Say you got fired switch roles good luck! .watch sheraseven on KZbin good look.
@missmimi6485
@missmimi6485 4 жыл бұрын
It can easily lead to resentment.
@alberto5969
@alberto5969 2 жыл бұрын
@@neneosei7168 lazy
@neneosei7168
@neneosei7168 2 жыл бұрын
@@alberto5969 it's time men stepped up.
@osagiee.guobadia-secondytc4624
@osagiee.guobadia-secondytc4624 8 ай бұрын
Women have jobs now. They can earn themselves to new opportunities like business, farming, consultants, advisors, careers you named it. Every female household should provide food, money, shelter, and stability for themselves without leaving with their parents too long.
@gracey_19
@gracey_19 2 жыл бұрын
Invest in yourself girl ;education, appearance and be financially capable of taking care of yourself. Then go out and put those standards high as you search for your man. Stop settling for less but make sure you make the cut first.
@opiniwise
@opiniwise 2 ай бұрын
So men who don't make more are less ? Plsss
@kamaramikel8607
@kamaramikel8607 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. I was married twice and both were emasculated. I divorced both.
@neneosei7168
@neneosei7168 4 жыл бұрын
Stop working and you get an instant provider! Watch sheraseven channel on KZbin. Men will use you to help them build then leave so beware.
@HerrMikael
@HerrMikael 4 жыл бұрын
Still interesting that you divorced them, not the other way around. Are you sure that it wasn't you that felt less attracted to them because they made less than you? Maybe they were emasculated in your eyes. I'm just throwing around thoughts, as I don't know your situation
@neneosei7168
@neneosei7168 4 жыл бұрын
The key is don't tell men you work. Let them take over provider role
@jasonjr376
@jasonjr376 2 жыл бұрын
So do the vows you said before getting married mean nothing to you? Or did you guys not have vows?
@hueyfreeman6262
@hueyfreeman6262 Жыл бұрын
@@neneosei7168 the same thing women do
@blacklearner27
@blacklearner27 4 жыл бұрын
Men don’t really care, but women hate it. Men pick up on women’s vibes that they don’t even realize they display. Even when men take on the household duties and other things, women still want the many to provide tangible (money) to them. It’s kinda sad because in some cases women are better equipped to be the providers and men should be the supporters, but human nature is deterministic eventually the imbalance leads to discontent. Ultimately, this means that many women will remain perpetually single, engage in multiple relationships, or simply give up on love entirely. Sadly, women have a paradox of choice--agency (independence) and security (dependence).
@missmimi6485
@missmimi6485 4 жыл бұрын
I am earning more than my husband and we both put in some money together for our monthly upkeep and obviously I put in more (like three quarter) but I wont lie to you no woman wants to be doing the most in the relationship. I hate it
@HerrMikael
@HerrMikael 4 жыл бұрын
I think you're partly right. We know with certainty that the best way to lower birth rates is to educate girls. It works in developing countries as well in developed countries. On the other hand, a functioning society demands a lot of behaviors that arguably are against our nature as mammals. Monogamy, for instance, or working 9 to 5. This phenomenon with female breadwinners is just another situation where we are going to have to suck it up or disappear. It will evidently become more common as women get considerably more college degree rates than men. At least until our debt-ridden societies run out of money. I also don't believe that there was any more harmony in the 1950s housewife family model. The wives probably resented their husbands back then as well. Life, including male-female relationships, have always been a power struggle.
@wiseangel6543
@wiseangel6543 2 жыл бұрын
Sound comment.... Wiser than all those ladies who spoke in the video
@poseidon5489
@poseidon5489 2 жыл бұрын
@@missmimi6485 that's why ur weak and no women deserve respect
@mynameisas2248
@mynameisas2248 2 жыл бұрын
In ancient civilizations women were the head of the household and males only come to pick a partner and support women.
@hevspring189
@hevspring189 2 жыл бұрын
young women beware of advice from wealthy older women unless you have connections and will be very wealthy this does not work for regular girls! marry a provider point blank! Most of us do not have jobs that afford us above six figures, nanny's and and access to pretty much whatever we want! When we get pregnant or sick regular women depend on there men and need his support financially and emotionally.. Chose wisely !
@madeasimmons9746
@madeasimmons9746 Жыл бұрын
Women should be the breadwinners
@someguy007
@someguy007 2 жыл бұрын
Woman are a lot more flexible when it comes to this and life in general. Men are very rigid and their egos are quiet easily bruised.
@TonneliGruetter
@TonneliGruetter 4 жыл бұрын
Your husband is a "lucky man" I've definitely heard that one :(
@user-AllenE
@user-AllenE Жыл бұрын
I would never have an issue with my wife made more money! I would be proud of her and encourage her! Her making more money does not shrink a man’s penis.
@QuantumThoughts69
@QuantumThoughts69 7 ай бұрын
I don’t have an issue, fully supported and encouraged my wife through her degree and career progression. My career stalled, burnout lead to a mental health breakdown and now my wife earns a good deal more than I do. The problem arose when she started to see me as not trying anymore, not being ambitious. I earn just under the national average. Then the slow decline in sex as she no longer saw me as the provider, this became the slow death of our relationship. When she became the bread winner she also started to take charge in the relationship, becoming hyper masculine and the emasculation continued. Over time this has just about killed the relationship. So being supportive and encouraging your wife can still lead to the demise of the relationship. Women struggle to be the main breadwinner and retain the same respect for their husbands that they had before that was the case.
@stevewolf7480
@stevewolf7480 3 жыл бұрын
Husband by nature wants to be a breadwinner and provide for his family.It's a absolutely normal and natural.It's in his nature, DNA,otherwise man feels useless and get depressed.It has nothing to do with social conditioning.Women by nature are nurturers and care providers it's in their nature and DNA.
@goticothepra
@goticothepra 3 жыл бұрын
Preach brother!! Social conditioning 🙄 please. They cannot understand.
@vincentgiasullo
@vincentgiasullo 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know it’s nature?
@kikaladeschev4879
@kikaladeschev4879 2 жыл бұрын
What genes in the DNA that code for that? I couldn’t find anything online.
@vincentgiasullo
@vincentgiasullo 2 жыл бұрын
@Cory gender roles are a social construct
@user-ve2wx8om6i
@user-ve2wx8om6i 2 жыл бұрын
Times have changed grandpa
@michellemichelle5202
@michellemichelle5202 3 жыл бұрын
What if the husband supported the wife but she was an artist/entrepreneur who made millions after years of him being the breadwinner?
@marc416
@marc416 3 жыл бұрын
I am guessing it would depend on her ego. She may think that the man she was with is no longer needed. I would hope that women need more that a veiny dildo and a romantic novel to feel complete.
@elijahhartman5799
@elijahhartman5799 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a win-win.
@Priinsu
@Priinsu Жыл бұрын
For all the talk women do about "Feminism" and "Bucking gender norms" when men do go against those norms women lose attraction and punish us for it. Women aren't wired to be providers for men that's why a man can work hard everyday of his life and come home to a wife who doesn't work or make as much as him and love her totally. When women are breadwinners in the relationship, its a source of resentment for her. And to any woman that has a problem with what I said here please do show me your house husband.
@theparttimehomemaker
@theparttimehomemaker 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of money a man makes doesn't define him, and men shouldn't use that sole yardstick to measure their self-worth either. I'm not agreeing that her ex husband was right to quit his job to pursue his rapping dream (totally irresponsible as he has a wife and/or family) but wives shouldn't ditch their husbands just based on his finances (or lack thereof).
@FlyGuyDrec
@FlyGuyDrec 2 жыл бұрын
The issue is that the average woman does not want a man that makes less than her
@penny4thought168
@penny4thought168 2 жыл бұрын
Really? Is that so? Where did you get that data from? I sure don't think like that. May I ask what study conducted that survey and what the sample size was?
@penny4thought168
@penny4thought168 2 жыл бұрын
@Cory I looked it up and found nothing. Mind citing the article in question?
@yanethmartinez656
@yanethmartinez656 Жыл бұрын
Average woman should not be in relationships and stay single if she makes more than a man.
@penny4thought168
@penny4thought168 Жыл бұрын
@@yanethmartinez656 Why? What logic does that make?
@User_forbidden
@User_forbidden Жыл бұрын
@@penny4thought168 Do you have any insight to contribute? Or you just another angry woman? I can't tell if you're either constructive an argument or attempting to provide constructive criticism
@batirtzeurkiaga4973
@batirtzeurkiaga4973 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly Faroosh!!!! We need to celebrate this and the fact that the trend's increasing is amazing.
@misspiscesdreamz
@misspiscesdreamz 6 ай бұрын
I do not want to be the breadwinner. I have no desire to be a provider.
@youtubedoesntcareaboutfals4098
@youtubedoesntcareaboutfals4098 4 ай бұрын
That's ur problem miss, if you don't somebody else will 💅💅💅
@playdollshowtime6756
@playdollshowtime6756 4 жыл бұрын
It will not work ladies, it’s the way God has made them, years will not change the feelings, women who don’t understand this will fail in marriage, point blank, remain single.🤷🏽‍♀️
@user-chloe8259
@user-chloe8259 Жыл бұрын
Why has no one asked why they’re aren’t enough men who make enough that women wouldn’t need to work?! It’s not womens fault there aren’t enough men out there who make “enough” and those who do want Barbie wives. So women should downgrade our lives instead of working for what they want? Most men want to do a half ass job and have their women praise them and appreciate what they bring in… but perhaps if men brought more to the table, women wouldn’t have to 😊 Obviously there are some good men out there but this is speaking to those sho can barely take care of themselves and expect women to drop everything they’ve got going for them and take the backseat.
@Cateater123
@Cateater123 Жыл бұрын
Men bring a lot more than women and guess what men don't want aged bimbos . Men should earn and spend on young ladies.
@roughrider501
@roughrider501 Жыл бұрын
we do get with it then women throw it in our faces because we're "supposed to be the ones looking after them", made to feel bad that they're contributing, so what are we supposed to do?
@abhisekdas1580
@abhisekdas1580 2 жыл бұрын
Working wives are not for long lasting except committed housewives.
@penny4thought168
@penny4thought168 2 жыл бұрын
Why not.
@penny4thought168
@penny4thought168 2 жыл бұрын
@Cory Prove it.
@ancientsithlord3314
@ancientsithlord3314 4 жыл бұрын
Its our nature to be the providers not because of society
@bobjones5186
@bobjones5186 3 жыл бұрын
sucker
@ancientsithlord3314
@ancientsithlord3314 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobjones5186 how am I a sucker that literally is how we are wired to be its because of society that we don't wanna be anymore which im fine with
@ancientsithlord3314
@ancientsithlord3314 3 жыл бұрын
@Kat Bills well women have a higher sense of smell and can much easily tell when somthing is dirty lol so cleaning maybe cooking not not a women's nature ig
@Cateater123
@Cateater123 Жыл бұрын
Nope , we are only providers when they are submissive to our rule and we have the complete authority . I won't provide when goverment is in control of my family . 🖕🖕🖕
@Cateater123
@Cateater123 Жыл бұрын
​@@ancientsithlord3314nope a woman is biologically dirty because of natural leakages . So they should do the cleaning and sweeping and after that start cooking
@makeitpop1780
@makeitpop1780 Жыл бұрын
I'll just support myself and get a maid. At least I can fire her for talking back
@tonet6601
@tonet6601 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, no way! Theres gone be times when he makes more and then there will be times where she makes more....that's not really an issue tho....some tries to make it one
@madratter7031
@madratter7031 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, wish men didn't make it their identity to be an atm machine.
@xdxxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdx8578
@xdxxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdx8578 3 жыл бұрын
@@madratter7031 And wish women wouldn't look down on men that earns less than them. See blame both genders.
@user-AllenE
@user-AllenE Жыл бұрын
That $.82 the women were earning compared to men for every dollars false!! There are many things that they did not take into consideration, and when it was reworked, it came out to the same!
@analyst1777
@analyst1777 Жыл бұрын
The biggest flaw that I see in your argument is that you think marriage and relationships are things that men need. It isn't! Men are driven by sexual desires. Most men don't want monogamy. Also, you think money is life's only problem. It is one of the easiest problems to solve. Life is full of problems! A seasoned man can solve the bulk of these problems, whether in a relationship or single. The Western world is so civilized that you have forgotten who made it that way! I will make a prediction as men stop focusing on giving their labor and creations away for crumbs and start focusing on owning their labor and creations; most men that you call average will become millionaire!. You will become a customer instead of a life partner that he builds a life for!
@abalu5547
@abalu5547 Жыл бұрын
Black culture is so scary talking about we know men are defined by their income yet speak about black men that wouldn't be Chinese or Indo Chinese or India or even very religious Israel or religious India or certain types of Christians and certain types of Americans certain types of Latinas I mean that's so scary men defined by income a lot of that is chance and luck defined by intellect in my culture defined by education defined by perhaps accomplishments and income but really outcome there are people in my culture that put out billions in value but only make 100,000 a year because there are certain kinds of scientists or professors is not really about what you get it's about what you give and that's how different Black culture really is men and my society like men in Buddhist society trying to find Nirvana or looking for things Way beyond anything that could be exchanged like gold and silver and that's what's sad about black society it's so low in its values!
@dcj991
@dcj991 Жыл бұрын
Damn that's crazy. Anyway what you want for dinner baby
@StefanieLegacy
@StefanieLegacy Жыл бұрын
That stat is some BS.
@derekseube7039
@derekseube7039 3 жыл бұрын
God over Christ, Christ over man, man over woman, woman over child. His order not mine. I submit. It's not always fun to. We have more women in power and working than anytime. Now laws to require having them on boards of companies. I thought no law should be made based on gender. Appease them you will never please them. Even military lowering standards for pull ups, course time, ability isn't pushing men or helping women.
@shawnboahene5231
@shawnboahene5231 6 ай бұрын
Christ is God.
@mynameisas2248
@mynameisas2248 2 жыл бұрын
Having a girlfriend is like adopting a daughter.
@ronduncan7823
@ronduncan7823 Жыл бұрын
Seladonia lyin. No MAN gone pursue a rap career to be a rapper. They just trying to make black men sound dumb.
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