What Happens When You Mount a FF Telephoto Lens to an MFT Camera?? THE RESULTS ARE AMAZING

[@JAALMARZA]

A new test with the G9II will be very interesting...

[@przybylskipawel]

Also you can just use FF body and get similar equivalent light with more Mpix on a subject and no aberrations. To me what is really interesting is to try FF glass without speedboost (just an empty adapter) on MFT to get ultimate reach. I tried my sigma 60-600 on my GH6 and the reach is INSANE. However AF is basically non-functional in video. At least on a Viltrox EF-M1 speedbooster.

[@JeremyNeipp]

Most definitely! I've done some of the same tests myself, it's pretty cool :)

[@przybylskipawel]

@@JeremyNeipp What adapter/lens/body did you use?

[@brucegraner5901]

I had a good experience with the Canon R7 and 800mm f11 lens but I much prefer the original G9 to the feel of the R7. I checked with B&H to see if they knew of a R-lens-series adapter-to-Lumix (not speed booster) but was told no such things exists:) I've been getting surprisingly good results with the 2x digital converter in the G9 menu so I guess I'll stick with that. I would like to see Lumix take it a step further with the iZoom digital doubler they use in their FZ1000 series camera. Results with that menu item are outstanding.

[@stormking8178]

To confirm, if you were going to use the Sigma on a Lumix G5 Body, I would need to speed booster, and the TC-1401 teleconverter to Canon to make it work? If that's correct would it be better to buy a speed booster that bypasses the need for the TC-1401 converter. Thank you in advance.

[@JeremyNeipp]

Just the speed booster! The speed booster included in the link converts from Canon EF to MFT. Hope that helps!

[@MrRobovision]

What's the quality of the image like when you use the digital 2x + 4x zoom on the Lumix G9 using the Sigma? Did you try it out?

[@MrRobovision]

Wow, I was hoping you'd get 1200mm reach as it's a FF on a MFT with the 2x crop, can you buy a converter that still gives you some extra reach maybe to 900/1000 without compromising on image quality and light? I have the 100 - 400 Panasonic Leica lens, would this be worth trading in and spending the money to get? Or can you mount a TC between the lens & speed booster?

[@JeremyNeipp]

That's a loaded question haha. I think it would be worth it because when you get 600mm (300mm mft) with a 4.0 aperture on a sharper lens, I would personally rather have that then the 6.3 800mm (400mm mft) that you get on that Panasonic Leica, and its the same price. As far as I know, you can TC between the lens and speedbooster but it slows AF even more, so it depends if that is important to you. Also, the teleconverter does slow down the light and there isn't any getting around that.

[@MrPhilbautista]

Don't use a TC with a speed booster. Just get a regular adapter without the glass element in it for better results. Using a TC with a speed booster just puts in so many more additional glass elements between the sensor and the lens that will definitely affect the IQ. A regular adapter doesn't have any glass elements so there's nothing between the lens and the sensor. And since you're main goal is to get the 2X crop factor, there you go. There are a lot of companies that make adapters so AF performance will vary, but Metabones do make adapters without glass elements too, so hopefully the AF of those adapters compare favorably with their speed booster sibs. p.s. When you go with regular adapters, you get the crop factor but you won't get the f/stop boost. There's no getting around that. It's one way or the other.

[@HD-vs2tn]

I think you're looking for normal adapter instead of a speed booster. He was using one and that's why the focal length is reduced and the aperture reads wider.

[@petepictures]

Have you tried with just an adapter, to use the lens's optics alone? I am curious about the Sigma 35-100 1,8 ?

[@JeremyNeipp]

I have not tried it with a normal adapter! I have tried it with other lenses though such as the Sigma 18-35 1.8 and it’s pretty cool

[@AderitoRosario]

Can you make a video of the settings for your wildlife photography?

[@JeremyNeipp]

Hey Aderito! Today I’m actually releasing a settings video ironically so definitely recommend checking that out, I mention a couple of the settings I use in that video as well so I hope that helps!

[@AderitoRosario]

Thank you, Jeremy! I'll definitely check it out.

[@TheCozzz]

By this review if i replace the 150-600 OM lens with the 150-600 sigma version, i would only gain extra stops of light but not much more reach? Seems worth it. Would love to see you re-visit the topic with these two lenses.

[@noah22261]

Which other lens do you recommend to adapt to mft? Considering the sigma 18-35 1.8 but not sure on the results vs native Leica options

[@JeremyNeipp]

I have done the Sigma 18-35 and I love my results adapting it. By far my favorite lens to adapt down to MFT 🙌🏻

[@jamesloop]

Wow super helpful info! Wondering if I could get your opinion - I’m getting into wildlife videography and just for the gh6 (first non-phone camera). Trying to decide between the Lumix 100-400 tele or this sigma 150-600 with .71 metabones. For filming birds/animals with the gh line, what would you go with? I plan to mostly manual focus. Thanks for the awesome info in your video!

[@JeremyNeipp]

That's awesome, you're gonna love that upgrade! :) It's a tough decision! But personally, I'd go with the Sigma 150-600 metabones combo over the Lumix 100-400. Reason being, in MF, autofocus doesn't matter so you really are coming down to image quality in which I would argue that this combo achieves nearly as good as the lumix for a lesser price. The biggest bonus of all however is the fact that you'll get a really nice lower f-stop that you don't get with the 100-400! If you do wind up getting that combo of Sigma 150-600+metabones I'm actually selling my combo right now, it's used obviously but in pretty good shape, so if you're interested hit me up at [e-mail] and I could sell it for a lot less than you'd pay for it new :)

[@mlzs_]

Should I spend the more money on the new sigma e mount 150 600?

[@JeremyNeipp]

Up to you but if you’re on the E Mount system I’d say yes! I have a review I’ve done on it and I’ll attach it below kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5nRnJJ5iZqZbrs

[@jd5787]

Hi, so if I understand well a 0.71x speedbooster on a different lens such as a Canon 24-70mm f2.8 would make the lens a 17-48mm f2? Thank you!

[@JeremyNeipp]

Correct! It's an interesting way to mix it up

[@jd5787]

@@JeremyNeipp constant aperture... 😉

[@gife8529]

402-852mm (Full frame equivlalent) right ?

[@bullishgains201]

What are your focus settings.

[@JeremyNeipp]

I shoot in MF with the focus peaking on!

[@bullishgains201]

@@JeremyNeipp I've been doing the same thing. That little mini window that pops up helps too. Forget what that's called. But it zooms right in to help see the focusing.

[@marekp2845]

Hi, great video. Can you tell me if does it work with teleconverter TC-1401?

[@JeremyNeipp]

Thanks Marek! I haven't tried it but I would assume it should, the mounts all connect and interact as what they are replacing so I would assume they do.

[@welee8728]

I have a Panasonic G9 and a 50mm .. What is the appropriate adapter for it?

[@stuartsilverman3797]

I liked the lesson and your enthusiasm. Do you think the viltrox speed booster at about $200 work as well?

[@JeremyNeipp]

Hey Stuart! Thanks for the compliment. To be honest I have never used the viltrox speed booster, but from what I have heard the Metabones is noticeably better, but I can't speak out of better experience than you.

[@stuartsilverman3797]

Thanks very much

[@andrewbrooks2001]

Multiply the focal distance by about 2x, so a 600mm will be a 1200mm?

[@JeremyNeipp]

Normally yes, but with a speed booster you don’t double the magnification as one like this gives a .63 crop, so for this one you would only wind up with ever so slightly increased magnification

[@Ferroza-m8d]

nice video. please make comparison for some moving or flying object.that may telephoto lense will probably used of.

[@TITAOSTEIN]

Trying to figure out how would be the results with the Canon 600mm f4 + metabones on a G9 or e-m1x. 768mm f2.8? People will star rethinking the mft! Personally I would love to test the new Olympus Lens 150-400mm f4 tc1.25.

[@JeremyNeipp]

Most definitely that would be a pretty cool test! If I owned that 600mm I would do it for you haha. And I have definitely been eyeing and wanting to test that Olympus 150-400 as well especially with the 2x teleconverter, that would be pretty insane to get a 2000mm ff equiv. on a camera. If you get it yourself before me let me know how it goes!

[@ravineelakantan6417]

Nice Video...How about image stabilization which is dual IS with the panasonic lenses ?...for birds that are still, can get down to shutter speed as low as 1/40s ...how about the sigma?

[@JeremyNeipp]

The image stabilization doesn't utilize dual I.S. with this setup, however, you still receive in-body or lens. As low as you can go is honestly a difference in how much you pixel-peep, but if you are judging according to your 1/40th standard, just add 2 stops to it which would be most likely the amount of image stabilization you are using, meaning you would be able to get shots as low as 1/60th in your scenario.

[@MrPhilbautista]

Do you shoot BIF with the Sigma 150-600 + G9 combo? How does the continuous AF keep up?

[@JeremyNeipp]

To be honest I shoot all manual focus on my own time so I wouldn't be able to give a fair judgement, however, I did test it out briefly and it seemed to be nearly just as fast as my native lenses!

[@ridealongwithrandy]

Heehee, awesome video, been doing this for years. Olympus OM 300mm f3.5 works a charm.

[@RyftCinema]

WHAT mft to ff adapter did you use?

[@JeremyNeipp]

The link is in the description!

[@RyftCinema]

@@JeremyNeipp would this work on lumix g9?

[@mrmoon1482]

@@RyftCinemadumbass

[@RyftCinema]

@@mrmoon1482 yea didn't read description lmao

[@prabhakarrao4922]

I stand corrected but I believe not as single speed booster from metabones is weather sealed.

[@SzymonPytel]

Glad you made that experiment :D Haha, and dont forget without speedbooster you getting 1200 mm lens with 6,3 light :D So hmmm is there even such lens in that size (I found there is a canon f5.6 89,000$ and lens is massive) ? I wonder if you put sigma on g9 with that 1200 mm reach and crop s1R in post to get simlar results which one will be sharper?. How stabilization will behave at such focal range with G9. I see you like to make such experiments. Maybe there is some hope for MFT system.

[@JeremyNeipp]

Haha thanks for the comment! Yea I have gotten a couple DM's and comments from people asking me to test the same thing without a speed booster. So it's something on my radar and something I'm considering doing for sure and if I decide to do it you'll definitely see it. Yea I have seen that $89k lens before it's insane! But definitely out of the price range for any normal person haha.

[@DerVagabundli]

@@JeremyNeipp I'd be really interested, too. I've heard adapting full Frame lenses to M43, you can get quite a loss of sharpness.

[@JeremyNeipp]

Sounds good, I will definitely keep my eye out for the opportunity. From this test with the Speedbooster, I didn't notice much if any sharpness loss with the FF lens, but that's due to the Metabones Speedbooster being a top-tier adapter. Cheaper adapters probably cause huge losses in sharpness.

[@DerVagabundli]

@@JeremyNeipp This other youtuber, let's call him Nony Torthrup to keep him anonymous, said it's generally the case because MFT cameras have a higher pixel density and full Frame lenses aren't built to resolve so highly, causing some unsharpness even without adapters. I have never really tested this thesis though. The only full Frame lenses I have are vintage Minoltas and Nikons, so I can't really compare. That said, with a lens built for a 64mp full Frame camera stuck on a 20mp mft body, this could be entirely negligible.

[@JeremyNeipp]

Jamie yea I know who you’re talking about. From my personally experience, my full frame lenses mounted to my MFT system seem to be DRASTICALLY sharper than my MFT lenses... all 3 that I have done this with. So if any sharpness is lost, it must be minimal assuming you have a good adapter. The resolution is definitely noticeably less between my G9 (MFT) and S1R (Full Frame), but the lens sharpness seems to stay the same between systems in my experience. Of course, these are my observations and I have never done any “scientific” tests on this.

[@LEXPIX]

Nice comparisons. I have the Nikon version with no AF. So what is the "F" mark on the Metabones adapter denote?

[@uglyigor3055]

why have i never thought about asking you to do this test man :D I have thought for a FF lens on my G9 for forever now because I wanted to try that 1200mm reach with the 2 times crop. But that would require to use a standard adapter and would probably make the lens unuseable with the big f-stop. Soo ....Maybe you could test this out? G9 + MFT to Canon EF Adapter with 150-600. I imagine a 300-1200mm would be epic but don't know if this is functional at all in practice haha Did you need an external power supply as recommended on the Metabones Site for the lens?

[@uglyigor3055]

additionally I would borrow you my 100-400mm for testing but I assume the shipping coast would be huge for a quick test and getting one as a loan is probably the cheaper option :/

[@JeremyNeipp]

Hey man! Haha I know I should have done this test on my channel much sooner lol. So firstly, no I didn't need an external power supply for the lens. At least from my experience with the G9 and multiple different lenses on it, I have never needed that. Secondly, yea I'm sure that shipping cost would be way more haha... but thank you!! I just gotta wait for our camera shop to reopen in town cause of COVID. Lastly, I have never tried with a different type of adapter other than the Metabones, but it would be interesting to try and get that full 1200mm. The Metabones Speed Booster is known to be the best in the field, that's why I originally bought it, however it would be a good test to try out some others. Maybe someday! I'll look into it more and see if its feasible. Let me know if you have any other questions!

[@AveryCaudill]

great video and new sub! im looking to pick up an old-school Nikon 300mm f4 af ed to use with my G85 and Bmpcc4k, I have a speedbooster and just a dummy adapter so its like a 450mm 5.6 and a 600 f8 (ff equiv) in one!

[@JeremyNeipp]

Thank you! Glad you liked it! Yea that will be an awesome combo, I think it's very underrated to do lens adaptations! Let me know how that Nikon 300mm f4 goes when you pick that up!

[@AveryCaudill]

@@JeremyNeipp will do! maybe ill see you out in the field soon:) coming through there in a few months actually haha

[@JeremyNeipp]

That would be awesome! If you follow my insta you can just send me a DM and we can connect then

[@AveryCaudill]

@@JeremyNeipp ill do that!

[@DM-ty4lr]

Great ideas and discussion of comparisons. Do you use the Sigma lens IS, or the G9 IBIS for stabilization? Would the G9 in body stabilization alone be good enough at a 600mm equivalent?

[@JeremyNeipp]

Glad you liked it! I would default towards the G9's IBIS since it's higher than the lens. In my opinion, the IBIS will be good enough but of course it will be a little worse than if it was a dual system. In all reality though, until even just 5 years ago most wildlife photographers had little if any stabilization built in and would still get great shots, so there are definitely ways around it.

[@DM-ty4lr]

@@JeremyNeipp The IBIS is higher rated but the IS could be nearer the better point on a long lens? So far I've been using an old Pentax DSLR IBIS and doing OK on a 400mm f5.6 with manual focus by keeping shutter speed over about 1/1000 and holding the lens carefully, and same on a Canon 7D 400mm f5.6 with neither IS or IBIS, not sure there's been a big difference. These are on old 16-18mp APS, so a MFT 20mp sensor's smaller pixels could be more sensitive to shake and need the IBIS and higher lens speed to be equivalent? After watching your videos, and since these older cameras can be noisy over 400-800ISO, I'd like to try the 400mm on a G9 to get the greater speed and IBIS and better noise, but maybe there are these small sensor tradeoffs and not as much leap over APS as it appears. Any thoughts? If not, great job bringing this possibility to attention.......

[@MrPhilbautista]

Have you tried shooting extended sessions with your combination? I was curious how your battery life compares when moving that much glass in the Sigma compared with shooting with other lenses.

[@JeremyNeipp]

I haven't tried shooting extended sessions since I use my FF setup and very rarely use my MFT setup, however, when I tested this video out, I spend about 45 minutes using it and it seemed as if the battery life was holding up at normal duration.

[@tariqueorderson9808]

hey bro what do you thin the Canon 24mm f/1.4 would be with the Metabones Speed Booster XL 0.64x on the G9 in terms of Aperture and Focal Range

[@kalleankaa7536]

Ok. So how is AF-C with the sigma 600mm C and the metabones SB? Do they work as in does it give sharp shots? My guess is that it wont allow you to take 2 shots even in burst. And none are in focus. Please confirm!!!

[@JeremyNeipp]

Hey Kalle! For AF-C it does allow you to burst but it’s not as accurate

[@mrmoon1482]

I wanted this lens but love my G9 so my problem is solved 👌

[@JeremyNeipp]

There you go! Glad to help ☺️

[@nepalinomadwithacamera3023]

Great experiment! Learned a lot. Looks like you get great results with the Sigma 150-600mm. I am not getting very sharp images, but it could be the photographer issue :). I need to learn better techniques and keep practicing.

[@JeremyNeipp]

Glad you enjoyed it! You really do get such better results with the Sigma 150-600mm! The f/3.9 sells me on that lens for MFT, it honestly amazed me! And yea it definitely could be a combination of the both! I know it was really hard for me when I first started to get tack sharp images but I have gotten way better at it over the years. Keep it up man!

[@antoniawildmedia]

Thank you!!! This is exactly what I needed. Could I ask which speed booster you used please? x0.64 or 0.71? Thanks!

[@kalleankaa7536]

I suggest you use the 0.71x crop speed booster because the .64x is only for 4k videos in panasonic that has 2.3x crop. Use of the 0.64x SB in stills mode and full HD video will give you vignetting because it only has 2x crop on those modes compared to 2.3x crop in 4k video.

[@Clickumentary]

That's really great to know. The EF mount is really universal across lots of high end video gear too!

[@JeremyNeipp]

Yea most definitely! I have a few EF myself since they are so common and adaptable. Glad you liked it.

[@antoniawildmedia]

Ah! Just found the link for the speedbooster. Perfect, thanks this was really helpful! My friends don't understand! Lol

[@JeremyNeipp]

Glad it helped! It’s a great investment and opportunity for MFT users! I use the .64

[@YourOwnAdventure]

Thanks for the vids. So for all around usability, hike-ability: Do you think this is a viable option for M43? I read the comments below regarding the Leica 100-400 and I agree that this lens offer the most bang for buck.... but I still do think that portability with the Leica offers a wildcard value. Especially at the price of $900 used. That's saving nearly half the cost but are you getting twice the quality from the Sigma?

[@JeremyNeipp]

Definitely a hard question! Well, put it this way, I have hiked a 14 mile trail in one day with this lens and a much heavier camera and other equipment all in the bag... it was undoubtably tiring, but I did it! For a standard day out doing wildlife photography, I have never felt that it is too much too lug around. However, all that to say that I am a young man so I have a lot of energy and stamina. So for me I would definitely still rather invest into this setup than the Leica 100-400mm lens (I wish I knew that back then what I know now), but for some people like you said, that weight factor is a dealbreaker. In terms of quality though, hands down this Sigma 150-600 lens beats out that Leica 100-400 (I have used both) so if quality is a bigger concern to you I would definitely consider this one.

[@YourOwnAdventure]

@@JeremyNeipp Well to start.... I purchased the Leica lol. I appreciate your insight though, and as a slightly less young man I can say that I am no slouch to being uncomfortable for the sake of quality. I was really torn between pulling the trigger on the Sigma but it was going to cost more and be more of a compromise that I’m not sure I want to take. I have experience with the metabones and I never felt like I got consistent results with it (great for manual focus video though). I think if I had FF kit I would have pulled the trigger on Sigma but I’m a pretty dedicated MFT shooter and I’m using this dip in MFT interest to get a good deal before the GH6 comes out(which is undoubtably going to be a game changer) .......what I don’t understand in all of this is why not just throw MFT mount on the Sigma? They must have some agreement out there.... Anyways thanks for the insight and videos.

[@JeremyNeipp]

Most definitely! I’m glad you did what you think is best for yourself. I’m sure you’ll still be incredibly happy with the results. And you’re right, that GH6 is very exciting! I’m excited to see what they put into it. I hope you enjoy your new lens when it comes in and let me know what you think of it.

[@Adrian_Mason]

I think I am missing something. Why use a speedbooster. You might as well use it on the full frame body. The point of 4/3 to me is using smaller glass. More to the point, I am looking for something to beat the Nikon P1000 in quality. Therefore I am looking at big lenses on a multiplier like 4/3 almost offers. The only reason to use a speedbooster should be for wide angle. Surely?

[@JeremyNeipp]

The purpose for a speed booster is that it helps open up aperture much wider and allows for a higher quality piece of glass while still allowing for future upgrades. If I would have thought about it for wildlife, when I was an MFT user, I much rather would have spent the money on the 150-600mm Sigma lens than any other more expensive MFT. When the Sigma translates down to FF on the speed booster, it has a 4.0 F-Stop and a 300mm reach, which the closest MFT lens to that is the Olympus 4.0 300mm and it costs an additional $1,300 compared to the Sigma+Speedbooster. On top of which, I would argue the Sigma is a much sharper piece of glass. Compared to the Nikon P1000, this lens with a speedbooster and an MFT camera like the G9 would blow the Nikon P1000 out of the water in image quality and sharpness. Hope that helps!

[@Adrian_Mason]

@@JeremyNeipp Not in reach. The Nikon P1000 can photograph things that we can't see with the naked eye. I know what you are saying about quality, but that is why I was searching for 600mm sigma on micro 4/3 only for you to be doing the lens backwards to my goal. Thank You for your video and comment.

[@JeremyNeipp]

Most definitely, but reach does very little good if it’s poor image quality. That’s why people will pay 5 figures and up for a higher quality camera and lens that has a worse focal length that of a $500 camera. If your purpose is just to see wildlife, maybe a higher quality camera isn’t your best option, but if it’s to capture quality images it’s definitely good to move to interchangeable lens cameras. Also, you won’t find any 600 MFT lenses at the moment that are any good, the highest quality good MFT primes are all 300mm’s and there are a few 400mm zooms that are half good, but I wouldn’t highly recommend.

[@Adrian_Mason]

@@JeremyNeipp Thanks again!

[@corykphotography]

Not only do I respect the awesome M43 content, very few will understand the FPE on your shirt. ||-//

[@JeremyNeipp]

Probably the most respectable comment on a video I’ve ever got 🙌🏻 ||-//

[@vitalijkopa764]

Super :)

[@JeremyNeipp]

Thanks man! Glad you liked it.

[@welee8728]

I have a Panasonic G9 and a 50mm .. What is the appropriate adapter for it?

[@JeremyNeipp]

Depends what 50mm lens mount you have! ☺️ but the one linked in the description has different mount variations and most likely the one you need

[@welee8728]

i have 50mm for panasonic s5 I bought it by mistake. Can I install it for G9 🥲? @@JeremyNeipp