What I Learned Buying $30,000 of Chinese 4 Post Lifts From Alibaba

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Sometimes I like to take risks to save money, this way I can evaluate whether or not it was worth doing and report it to you. Here is what I found out buying lifts from China vs retailers in the US.
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[@1jiveturkey1]

Today, Mr. Spaghetti gets breadsticks from PF Changs. Says they lack sauce.

[@epicrages7775]

This. This is what the youtube comment section was made for

[@slyfox4564]

@@epicrages7775 thougbt it was for crying. Well thats when the news comment section is for

[@bellluna9017]

This is the comment that I was looking for

[@andrewsimckes5748]

Your comments every time rekindles me each and every time that Rob really has the patience of the saint to put up with your moronic comments I would go post comments on your videos and have 10 of my friends do the same but we do not want th ok at videos with 300 views to have 310.

[@jjlegend3922]

that was damn solid

[@shoebert31]

"whats the worst that can happen" dont challenge the alibaba gods my friend

[@ESPSJ]

right? thats the last thing you say when you buy from them 🤣

[@dougholdem2898]

The guy who was going to sell it to you for $3800 complained to the manufacture about Walmart selling them for $3250 in that the manufacture had MAP pricing on the item. The manufacture called Walmart and told them if you sell these for $3250 we won't ship you. So Walmart cancelled your order in order to keep the supplier.

[@samuelmurphy8692]

this guy with the FACTS

[@RadRidesByCru]

"Cancelled your order to keep the supplier" cracked me up... The ATEXH-PRO8000EXT-L lifts haven't been available through Wal-Fart since he posted his original video.

[@BigEvan96]

What is MAP?

[@mojonojo3]

@@BigEvan96 Minimum Advertised Price

[@lasskinn474]

were they these same lifts. would fit in the price with profit :D

[@idiotsavant7276]

“Steel is steel” Ok, I can dispel this theory easily. I worked as a fabricator in a steel supply yard for 5 years. The company usually purchase USA/Canada or SSAB German or Swiss steel. Average price at the time was $0.80 a lb One day a load of Chinese steel came in, it was $0.40 a lb. It look just like the USA steel we had on the ground, all the certification stated it was “A36” structural steel. In a matter of 2 weeks it rusted up like it had been on the ocean floor for 10 years. When I cut it on the plasma table it stunk like a dumpster fire. The steel was full of contaminants, the plasma arch would splatter like there was air pockets. The owner of the company came down to the shop- look at the head of operations and said “get this dog shit off my fucking property and make sure it’s all scrapped-“ Turn out Chinese and Russian steel almost never meets certification. They just pull out the stamp for what ever grade you’re looking to buy and suddenly it’s “a36” or “AR500” So no- Chinese steel is not same/same.

[@FreeonRumble]

same for india

[@Joehatrix]

AYMEN.

[@Executor009]

Last year my uncle who works at a port/dock in Tampico México, told me that the boats were bringing in bad chinese steel and taking out whatever steel was here in México.

[@ajingolk7716]

I guess thats why pro companies use XRF analyser😅

[@ajingolk7716]

​@@Executor009BUT we all going to agree that the purchased lifts is working as they should do isnt 😏

[@venom5809]

I feel like when it comes to millions of dollars worth of cars, maybe just maybe you shouldn't cheap out on something like lifts.

[@802Garage]

That's the joy of insurance.

[@Pie4life123]

802 Garage insurance doesn’t cover that it’s not a act of “god “

[@802Garage]

@@Pie4life123 I think you're very confused about insurance. It will absolutely cover lift failures as long as it's in the insurance policy. Insurance often does not cover acts of God.

[@billnj3651]

I completely agree. He’s just incredibly cheap

[@ESPSJ]

Most of the lifts are all the same quality anyway, unless like he said you get some that are US made. However there's no guarantee those things are anymore reliable than the Chinese ones.

[@TheOnlyGHOST1015]

15K on a wire transfer Rob is living life on the Edge

[@mull4584]

I unplug my incredibly cheap Chinese ultrasonic cleaner every time I am done using it because I don't want my house to burn down.

[@simp2234]

🤚🤣🤣

[@MrTheHillfolk]

The thing is, if it's the harbor freight model that's about 80-90$ there are some gun manufacturers that relabel them with their name on it and charge double the price.

[@1heart7seas1moon]

Next episode: how I totaled my 35+ cars

[@onefastboi14]

But but but he saved a few hundred dollars per lift to go through so much more trouble

[@7th_Heaven]

31 cars. 2 cars are on a quality lift. 2 cars on side Non UL listed means Insurance premiums increase. His premiums increase our premiums increase.

[@RogerM88]

In today's episode, Mr. Spaghetti shows how some Chinese build frying pans, have their value as iron weight.

[@hyper8545]

Hope they work out. You probably could of got a sponsorship from a US lift company. Every car youtube has done it xD

[@braketurnaccelerate]

Bendpak will throw massive discounts at anyone with a pulse and 100,000 subs.

[@Chris-hw4mq]

Next episode: My lifts failed and I lost 1 mil. $ in cars

[@hildenbrandt21]

@@Chris-hw4mq an absolute guarantee. "My Chinese Lift Failed and Crushed my Ferrari" before Christmas.

[@lasskinn474]

sponsored lift content would've been boring as f though. I do kinda suspect some of those lift sponsorship-discounts are more like just discounts.

[@origamihawk]

Honestly this has sold me more on a US lift than any sponsored video could. It's a known premium for a warranty and support.

[@blueline15]

For 8 lifts I can see this made sense, for one or two for the garage/shop at your home, doesn’t seem like the costs pencils out for the work be just buying from a US vendor.

[@lasskinn474]

well you're basically paying for them to handle the order and bear the risk of it.

[@bstrang6]

steel is not steel, there are many grades and each have their own specifications

[@jimhimesjr]

Not just that. I have seen steel from china/India that isn’t the same quality as domestic steel. I work with machine shops, any shop doing work for the military has to have material from the us and the material has to have certification documents. Steel is not steel

[@MrTheHillfolk]

@@jimhimesjr any Chinese rubber parts like motor mounts and coolant bypass caps rot apart in like a year. Not sure what they leave out of their rubber formulation but it's crap.

[@jguillot72]

Chinesium!

[@darrenfrank9716]

Exactly, and how it was heat treated is just, if not more important.

[@TamagoHead]

@@jguillot72 easy to obtain, but not very precious.

[@freedomfox8183]

Rob I love your channel been following you forever probably one of the longest KZbin channels I followed but you're not a broke bum, pay for the right stuff the first time or you're going to pay twice later and then some, plus the feeling of how stupid it was not to do it right to begin with.. that logic pretty much goes for everything in life and with how successful you are elsewhere I have to think you know that... Lucky for you at the end of the day you still have content out of it that's the only saving grace here..

[@tanmanrico]

Exactly. Save a penny, spend a dollar.

[@vitaliy9932]

Let's see what holds up longer, Rob's Brooklyn Bridge or Rob's Chinese lifts

[@blakecarr3544]

the bridge is made with Chinese parts anyways

[@vadim7590]

@@blakecarr3544 Chinese parts being human you mean?

[@nick.100]

He walks into his shop one day and every car on the bottom has been crushed be the lifts all failing lol 😂

[@captain_context9991]

WOW you bought the Brooklyn bridge? Impressive.

[@timkennedy1881]

👍👍👍😁😁😁😁

[@MrTheHillfolk]

He should have actually replied to that guy with the pic 🤣

[@ashishpatel350]

It's not about the weight but the quality of the steel. Steel is definitely not steel. Alot of the Chinese brands are the rejects

[@MrToasty8705]

Warehouse looking spectacular. Congrats Rob. Happy to see you expanding

[@thecloneguyz]

Now I know for sure you're the guy that goes for the cheapest price no matter what and you always end up doing it twice cuz it's good for content

[@bruhice6058]

For real. Rob I’ve been watching for 10 years and this is easily the cheapest thing you ever done. All that labor for $200-$800 in savings?

[@edqt]

@@bruhice6058 Cause he didn't expect all the extra stuff, he even said he thought it was gonna be around 2k per lift instead

[@elmayimbe_the_amateur_mechanic]

Ummmm...you've never heard of HOOVIES GARAGE?

[@wacabby]

Rob's IQ must be really low, like 85 or something. Scary

[@b0nz1official]

That's why I'm here

[@2JZ.S30]

All steel isn't the same. The bigger issue is the poor welds. That guy making 50 cents a day not going to care about penetration lol... Do they do non destructive testing on the welds every 5 or 10 lifts in random locations ?

[@Hansen710]

i would be more afraid of the moving parts being the weak link, with so little weight on them

[@LowNoobPro]

Ohhh, so thats who Matt Farrah was talking about on one of his podcasts when he was roasting a guy buying Alibaba lifts for his company because he was too cheap and that was saying "steel is steel" lmao

[@lukasmeyer1992]

I have a chinese 1 post lift for 6 years now. I would not recommending getting one. We use ist about once a week and many issues started showing up. It was not welded straight, the material is not strong enough on some parts, parts would bend more than on other lifts, the lockout would jam from time to time, there is too much play in many parts and it would hang down if you get to the 5000pounds they advertise. I would get a lift made in Italy next time.

[@zachg9065]

“This is my Brooklyn bridge” had me dying laughing

[@hzmeister9596]

This was surprisingly insightful. Can't believe you took the risk but glad it worked out.

[@MrIrishEMS]

Thank you so Much Rob for the incredible video giving all the details!! Extremely helpful, good luck hope to see more of your videos…as I mentioned very helpful!

[@martsmarts]

Cheaper by a few hundred dollars. Or even a thousand dollars for more work and no warranty? That's a red flag for me. But I'm glad you're doing this for all of us to see.

[@QuietStormX]

How are the Builds of these China 4 post lifts? How are the welds and are metal thin? I'd buy U.S. Made for parts and service+

[@RedesCat]

"whats the worst that can happen" i guess this will answer itself in another video

[@TheFTpMarijuanaCompany]

When importing its safer to use a Letter of Credit through a bank to make sure you receive the goods.

[@jacekmadej34]

For $9000 you could’ve shipped them to California (and halfway back) not to Teaneck, NJ from the port. Trucking company probably got $300-500 for this delivery. Good chunk likely was what port charged to handle it.

[@ianandersen2130]

Yeah was thinking wouldn't it have been a lot cheaper to stack them all in a single container? I know prices have exploded but $9k from the port sounds wild.

[@williamconrad1087]

Another life’s lesson from, the Man, Rob Ferretti.

[@Suuuub_]

Awesome video quality and editing! Love it.

[@amauri_dleon7726]

Congrats on that bridge purchase dude,..you must be proud

[@IamGretar]

incredible camera angles

[@joeshmoe9233]

"Steel is steel" If I was planning to store my Ferrari at your facility, this video marks the point of my plans changing.

[@stick004]

If that’s what your worried about, you can’t afford the Ferrari.

[@mojonojo3]

Thats what insurance is for.

[@lasskinn474]

sure you can trust that bendpak gets different steel in their chinese supplier/manufacturing facility. they audit their overseas manufacturing locations year round just the same as nike audits their factories.

[@ammoking6099]

mr.spaghetti -what’s the worst that’s can happen. Alibaba - hold my beer.

[@talarion997]

The bump in quality on the videos is noticeable, much better editing. Congrats! Hope the lifts work out.

[@mired914]

My dad and I just put together a "Backyard Buddy" lift in his garage a few weeks ago. Cost him about 6k all in.

[@AcuraAddicted]

I hope you didn't buy the "doesn't need securing the columns to the floor" fairy tale and secured them to the floor, Rob.

[@darkbug007]

i think we all know....

[@trebekanalbumcover]

This was actually was super informative. Thank you.

[@s2srt472]

Will mr spaghetti find out that steel is steel. Is the same as Pittsburgh jack stands. Stay tuned for a future episode of Mr spaghetti and ratatouille take on Chinese food.

[@PLEASEMAKEANOTEOFIT]

So glad you got those lifts especially after that recent flood. Glad to see that anything Italian or really valuable is up in the air above any potential water line. Your car site is the least dumb of all the KZbin car sites the least goofy... I like that. Okay there's some goofiness. Between floods, burglars and trips to Banff you *do lead* an exciting life!

[@johnnyfive1412]

Do you plan on adding additional sheetmetal in the gaps? Could be trouble if some engine or trans oil drips onto the cars on the ground level.

[@justice4g]

it looks like he has some plastic drip trays that slot in between the rails

[@my31and37]

These lifts are made from Chinesium, a much weaker steel made from recycled bicycles..

[@Rlyeh_The_Dead]

That set up looks really clean. I'd pay just to walk along that row and sightsee.

[@timjilman3295]

I bought my 8000lb triumph extra long and extra tall a year and a half ago from National auto for $2700 including shipping, today that same lift is $3900, not sure if the shipping is still included tho. Pro tip: if you buy from them, get the grey one, it automatically comes with aluminum ramps no extra charge. It’s been flawless.

[@johnnycalgero288]

Rob has the best business stories

[@pyro4life64]

And that is the reason around me all of my friends buy used lifts. I know its not apples to apples but if you only need one or two look for used you can save thousands that way.

[@Francoberry]

The stock footage edited in is really funny and enjoyable to watch :P

[@louisgrant4388]

Thanks. Ur video was very informative. Thanks buddy.

[@jarrettlabate5595]

I bought the same lifts and they got ruined by the shipping company it looks like they fell out of their truck on the highway and there was literally no compensation

[@tylerjamesferreira]

the brooklyn bridge part is hilarious😂

[@GadgetAddict]

It would have been the cherry on top if you demonstrated a cat going on and off the lift.

[@zachthetrashpandaslayer817]

I have the exact same lift in my garage and I love it! Mine was right at $4k shipping and all.

[@BigEvan96]

The way the world economy works is fascinating and terrifying at the same time.

[@muskokamike127]

5:00 ports are closed. Not a scam, my partner and I ordered a large UV flat bed printer that was held up in Shanghai for 5 months. It's on its way now finally.

[@autumnbeds]

Video quality is pretty nice there Mr spaghetti!

[@Muadib223]

Good luck with your Chinese made lifts, you are going to need it...

[@jesseberardi1778]

Ok, so that's the purchasing part of it... Tell us about the install, operation, and build quality!

[@MrMaxyield]

Love ya Rob but we're seriously overdue for a new intro...!😁👏

[@rmorris003]

I work for dhl and the amount of people that complain about having to pay customs is astonishing. People think buying something online outside of the country and paying for shipping means shipping covers import fees too. People are just uneducated on how couriers work with imports and having to submit money to customs and u gotta pay us to do the declaration.

[@slyfox4564]

Could u not get a bendpack sponsorship? Theyve gave like literally every youtuber free lifts

[@ManinaGarage]

How do you get those balls past the TSA? Nice one Rob! Thank you for the education 🤓

[@Niko-br9ql]

id like to see an update on them a year from now

[@billnj3651]

He’ll be complaining about the quality of them

[@cousinjohncarstuff4568]

Rob's Pasta Palace is now buying Chinese pasta. His supplier in the states wants $25 per 20 lb container of pasta. He found Chinese Pasta for $15 per 20 lb container. after all import costs, it came to $24.65 per 20 lb container. BUT, he is saving money! Just not as much as he thought.....

[@chigga311]

Hey, you may want to look into your insurance policy. Don't know if it's a selling tactic but a lift salesperson told me that accidents that occur on lifts that are NOT ALI certified are NOT covered by your insurance. Again, not sure if it's true but something you may want to look into. Just in case

[@XxMidnightToker420xX]

idk why but the here's a picture of my Brooklyn Bridge i bought it. had me dieing lmfao 😂 🤣

[@NB-im6od]

Yo Rob thx for the information.

[@jeffadams4590]

"Here's a picture of the Brooklyn Bridge, I bought it" lol.

[@teufelhunden8308]

Next Video: Why Chinese Lifts Are a Bad Idea *thumbnail dropped lambo*

[@pachecodc5]

I see a lot of comments jinxing my man Rob, he didn't become successful and a business owner by playing it safe. Sure he could have bought the "American" lifts, but it's his money his cars and his risk. He looks happy about it and that is all that matters. This made a good video and I suspect the lifts will last many many years!

[@digi3218]

Facts

[@paullackey3842]

Looking good 👍. Now, when do the t- shirts ship? Just wondering

[@user-hs2hd7wp9g]

Next episode: “Catastrophic failure on all my Alibaba lifts”

[@cheeops]

i lost it when the bridge pic popped up, lol

[@Belle-bx9vs]

Can you tell me your experience on the buying car process like for shipping & clean title? Any problems

[@frankz5864]

Would an insurance company ask any questions about where you got your lift from if it dropped the 458 on the Continental GT you had insured with them?

[@thesparkster]

You'd better lag bolt those to the floor before someone gets injured. One day, that metal will deflect and when they do those unsecured posts will kick out and you'll have a catastrophic failure. Remember that load rating is subjective, unless proven by an actual testing agency. Any manufacturer can claim load ratings, based on the numbers that their designers and engineers crunch, but those are mostly SWAGs. They'll claim things are MIL-spec or meet certain operational characteristics, but those are subjective (and often made up) and not really policed by any authority--it's whatever the manufacturer wants to claim. In addition, does that load rating also include at least a 50% overload window to account for accidentally placing a vehicle too heavy on it or if there is some type of seismic event or load-shifting shock?

[@FINfinFINfinFINfin]

I wonder how much would be saved by buying a container load? Get a group buy together. I need one 2 post lift and four 4 post lifts.

[@Rupan-rx]

My dad needed two detroit v16 92 series engines for parts. The motors came with zf gearboxes were a steal at 75 grand. It cost him 16 grand extra to pay shipping/customs brokers on both sides. Still cheaper than Amish engine guy or other options. Haha

[@AutoDudes]

Here’s a picture of my Brooklyn bridge 😂

[@erictremblay4940]

Excellent review. With all that new expertise, now you can open a sideline - importing lifts from China. 😉 Eric, in Montréal.

[@modernhaze3]

How long did the whole transaction take time wise months or weeks how many delays and or shipping inconvenience any details timeframe in transaction and upon buyer received payment how long for those orders take to finalize to be shipped on port ship

[@bmorehemi392]

I like the edits in the background

[@rposton919]

Steel ain't steel...

[@mgracer101]

I was wondering what happened with this. Thanks for the update.

[@LiviuXSA]

this guy lives to be cheap, hes got millions of dollars but gets a hardon whenever he can save a couple hundred bucks, he gets a hardon when he buys rollback thrashed ferraris for a fraction of the price, rob will go any distance to save a penny, its quite hilarious, like a character from a childrens tale

[@muskokamike127]

2 years ago you could have had them shipped total landed here for $1200 total. My business partner orders containers of product from a supplier in China. The cost of the product hasn't changed by the shipping has gone up $12000.00 CDN over the past two years. That's not the cost to ship, that's the price INCREASE on 1 container of product. It was $3000 now it's $15,000.00. I used to order R/C cars from china...shipping was $25 to $40, now it's $200, $240, $265 for a box 12 x 12 x 24 and about 3 lbs.

[@mojonojo3]

Global container shipping is FUBARed at the moment. Air isnt much better, you just have the problems quicker.

[@muskokamike127]

@@mojonojo3 yeah completely FUBAR.

[@drawingpat]

Is this being recorded with a drone? that low angle shot haha

[@Belnick6666]

no trickle chargers? all those cars daily driven or dead?

[@elcentinela3434]

Great video 👏👏🙌

[@marcopenner108]

Spaghetti spent big for this one. Meatballs and extra cheese PLUS a videographer and editor! Fancy.

[@captaincoffeecake3595]

Steel is still yes , however hydraulics , electronics , and wells are never equal . When it comes to safety and financial protection ( not dropping a Ferrari on a Porsche ) …. I’d pay the extra for quality

[@lasskinn474]

there's basically no room in the price for extra quality though with buying the same lifts from an us vendor for 3800 or whatever, once you factor in that they have to be their warranty as well etc. it's just buying the same product with insurance basically. now if he went for drastically more expensive lifts that's a bit different.

[@Belle-bx9vs]

So buying wholesale cars from Alibaba isn’t a scam?

[@peterthomson6161]

How is your luggage coming along.

[@PatRiot-]

Rob- how much did the paintings in the back of the shop cost? I'll have a real comment after watching lol

[@jonathanrabbitt]

You got a forklift? Why didn't you rent a straight truck and pick them up from wherever they unloaded the container?

[@bryans1000]

In today's episode Mr. Spaghetti shows us his Chinese plates.

[@geniferteal4178]

My old boss had some big expensive equipment and he used the same logic. If it was on wheels it's easy to steal if it's big and heavy and not on wheels it's probably safe.

[@tiagocoelho7415]

“Steel is steel”……. Ohhh boy, have I got a surprise for you

[@polloborracho9180]

You got ripped off on the final mile. Been in forwarding for years, even with 16% profit on my end, I still end up lower... shenanigans.