WHAT I REALLY THINK ABOUT TANKLESS WATER HEATERS.

[@davidstoltz2437]

Everyone hates on pro press until they buy one and use it . I was one of them . Anything new I still solder because of the tight spaces to fit water lines in and the cost of fittings. Most of my commercial customers I work for won’t even consider working with plumbers that don’t have a press tool and a fully stocked truck with fittings. Time is money especially with service companies and people responsible for building shutdowns. Also the added benefit with guarantee of not having a leak with soldering lead free brass valves with water in the line. I can’t use shark bite fittings on most of the commercial jobs we have to go by the spec book for that job and whatever the architect wants . Usually soldered press fittings and brazed and sometimes a certain pex system. Thanks for the good videos.

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

@@davidstoltz2437 if they work for you and your clients,go for it.

[@grinderpumpguy]

Identical elements as a tank full of unused water. Did our government forget we have weather modification? Customer service is faster all around these days and after swallowing my pride and setting ego aside, I've learned that that's why they are there and I come out looking like a pro after saving the day, once again. I hate looking stupid

[@scottapt5291]

The electric versions are more for a new home that is designed for the electrical infrastructure to support it.

[@scottapt5291]

You have high limit sensors, temp sensors, flow switches, etc. The electric versions of these tankless heaters aren't practical unless you have a very large electric service. If the house is all electric, might be talking about a 320 or 400 amp service.

[@jeffreyplumber1975]

when gas is outlawed only johnny siunshine will have gas he never runs out LOl JK . the left polititions dont care how much it costs my govenor and legislature is doing what they can to end gasoline cars and gas fired appliances itll put gas co outta buisness eventually but slowly we atre going all electric in Ca no one cares if you need another panel maybe some sort of second panel will come out to add comfort heat and Heat pump water heaters and A/C but its going to cost out the rear. our homes will be all electric and gas company will fold if it goes as planned in Cali thats ok with the Dems

[@HighTechHandy]

Those are thermostats in the center of each tube

[@jimhuerta9038]

If you don’t know what you are doing? CALL A ELECTRICIAN, PERIOD !!!

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

@jimhuerta9038 THE point of this video,corporations are producing materials and appliances that force tradesman to do things outside of the scope of their license,insurance and the rest. Not only that,they sell these high tech gadgets to the general public,causing death,and distruction,and driving up the cost for a plumber to install one within the parameters of his license. This is what de- regulation looks like and it's only gonna get worse. I stand by my original premis that these pieces of shit or only good for the corporations that build them. Tank type all the wau!

[@رافدرائع]

This is two heater with two temperature sensors with two transceter with controller with four.Sensors connected to a control panel. A control panel gives 2 transistor to open 2 electricity for the heater, each heater is connected to a separate power line. Make sure Transster is not damaged. Good luck

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

You lost me after "this is two heater" What ever happened to shit rolls downhill and payday is on Friday?

[@رافدرائع]

@@johnphillipsplumbing7148 Scan wire Red heater went to 🔆➡️ Then the thermostat ♋➡️Done Transster↕️➡️A power source or you can take a picture of a heater and then search the Internet Good luck

[@johnmcdonald8240]

I have put a 5 gallon electric water heater in my kitchen, because it takes to long for me to get hot water because my tank is so far away.

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

@johnmcdonald8240 point of use,fed by hot water is a good option 👌

[@johnmcdonald8240]

@johnphillipsplumbing7148 I feed hot water from 40 gallon tank.

[@BADGIRL6969ful]

Life has got so fast for people they can’t wait 2 minutes for hot water.the year 2035 tank hot water will be no more 😢

[@cmgngmc]

SOMEBODY ALWAYS HAS TO REINVENT THE WHEEL

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

@@cmgngmc yup!

[@GaryBondi]

You should have only hooked up the plumbing not the electrical

[@acsystemsservicekevin2161]

I'll keep my tank! When the power goes out you still get a hot shower!

[@williammarik6159]

Is that from the Space Shuttle?!

[@nellomichi6416]

great video, love it, laughing my butt off lol lol

[@smeyers9284]

johnny tapped out jackson 1 and done ! cant say i blame him

[@justmc62]

Life long electrician and pride myself with keeping up with technology . As you stated John, it's a snowball gathering steam coming for us. I like a challenge here and there but most of this new technology is designed not to be fixed . Just replaced my hydronic atmospheric gas boiler and my 50 gallon gas water heater after decades of uninterrupted service. Tried and true technology that just works and can be fixed fairly easy in an emergency .. Thanks for sharing all your thoughts and experience .

[@ResidentialRepairs]

All the tankless water heaters on my side of town are all gas only requiring 120 volt plug just for the igniter which makes it more simpler I guess cuz you just have to plug it into any outlet and it just ignites it and the gas takes over but it does have to be vented and it has all the same sensors that you're talking about My 50 gallon water heater is still going good gives me all the hot water I need but Alicia wants to try a tankless when we decide to replace ours so I guess eventually it will happen it will be a gas unit because that's what we have here and just plug it into a 120 outlet I guess and vent it out to the existing vent. Thank you for showing me this because it makes me want to run the other way when I see all these sensors I'm sure the gas one is going to be just as bad other than you'll be able to plug it into a simple outlet to run it have a great day John thank you for sharing.

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

@ResidentialRepairs the world is getting more complicated, make sure you flush that new heater once a year. Have a great day. It's always a pleasure my friend, say hello to the Familia .

[@ResidentialRepairs]

@johnphillipsplumbing7148 trust me John I I'm going to try to talk her out of it and just put a new 50 I show her every video that has a tankless water heater nightmare going on she actually watched your video this morning pointing out all those sensors and then I explained to her that some of that stuff can't even be removed and I can see she's starting to see things my way about tank or tankless. Thank you John for the kind words we appreciate you and your knowledge.

[@scottapt5291]

400 amp services are a lot more than 5k.

[@justmc62]

I hear that .. Most areas near me would not be able to get 400 amps from the utility for a residential property .

[@dwight.bennett]

There's inadequate regulation on these electric tankless units in terms of electrical code, there should be only a single circuit coming into them so that there can be a single disconnecting means. So there should be one set of terminals all together. Somehow the manufacturing side of things failed to understand the electrical code. Hence we have these abominations called electric tankless water heaters. IMO the only proper way to install them is a small subpanel immediately adjacent to the water heater to provide disconnecting means for each branch circuit for the various heating elements. If it gets installed with a conduit, they're only will be one ground wire.

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

@dwight.bennett this is what happens when all of the people in power are bought and paid for by unscrupulous CORPORATIONS,THE BIGGEST THREAT TO AMERICA AND THE WORLD.

[@jeffreyplumber1975]

regulation is for permit and inspection that Ill put that owner will get . if it passes and ive done my work wrong im still liable but if it passes and sparky screwed up then reall I dont have anything to say. Agree though that a single switch should shut down power to heater in my ( totaly inexperianced in electrical opinion) thats up to sparky and the inspector to determine but id wash my hands of it

[@jeffreyplumber1975]

@@johnphillipsplumbing7148 joe biden said white supremacy was our biggest threat to america

[@larrysmith2275]

Give me 50 gallon any day.👍

[@38mullet]

those are limit switches like on gas furnaces

[@pringu]

Time to go-to woodmere NY to the Mikey pipes pipe doctor training center

[@davidsheets]

Just call them “ ThANKLESS “ water heaters 😂

[@scottmaz4063]

You have to adapt or just don't work on them. Ask customer if they have this, if so sorry i don't work on them. Your buddy said no more tank water heaters. This is the new age. It sucks

[@JSH1]

Anyone else on the Home Depot website looking at the install and maintenance manual for this water heater as John is bitching about that POS?!?😂

[@joelnasdaq2724]

Hey Johnny, seeing how you like to show us all your videos in reverse mode... I'm only going to comment upside down and backwardsfor now on! --> " ʎǝH ʎuuɥoᒋ ʍoH ɐʎ uᴉop╻?" LoL!

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

I'm doing great,how are you? A sign of intelligence is to be able to read upside down ,backwards and misspelled

[@francislang5075]

do they suck alot of hydro

[@tannerwest6823]

That tankless water heater really SUCKS, maybe. 😂 No I really hate those things. I don’t see the benefit in them over a regular tank type heater. You can install 3 to 4 regular heaters for the price it costs to install one Navien or Rinnai. And you know that tankless isn’t going to last more than 20 years. I just don’t see where you ever recover your money back with a tankless.

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

@tannerwest6823 I agree 👍 💯 thanks for the illustration on that heater,that sheet was for the 24kw not the 18,it's still all the same shit ,just more of it

[@kkovler1]

stick to tank water heaters, less problems

[@francislang5075]

i would not want one

[@scottapt5291]

That is a hi limit

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

@@scottapt5291 thanks

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

@@scottapt5291 are you a plumber or an electrician?

[@scottapt5291]

@@johnphillipsplumbing7148 hold both licenses in PA

[@scottapt5291]

​@@johnphillipsplumbing7148I hold both electrical and plumbing licenses in PA near Philadelphia.

[@mikehouser5430]

1st… good morning

[@38mullet]

please put some pants on jackson!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

Johnny marches to the beat of a different drummer,mostly with my pants off,IT'S SUNDAY BROTHER

[@larrysmith2275]

You can buy 3 50 gallon for the price of one tankless.

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

Exactly 💯 without having to baby them until they finally shit the bed

[@ResidentialRepairs]

Actually you do know how to work on them You installed one yesterday when you left they had hot water. The electrical part yeah that's a different trade but as far as the plumbing end of it you did a great job and you got it running perfectly so you even did the electrical part it's really not your responsibility to have a couple wires there the homeowner should give the instructions to the electrician and when you get there you'll have two wires that you're allowed to hook up when it comes to plumbing you're allowed to do a little electrical as long as it's in the scope of your project for instance you're allowed to hook up electric water heater or a tankless water heater I get it you don't want to run the wires from the panel to it but you got it going and as far as all those sensors I wouldn't ever work on them I would just say call a technician or get a new one and I'll swap it out That's basically why I have a new appliance guy I won't work on anything but if the owner decides just to swap it out I do that anyway you did a great job and you shouldn't feel bad about only wanting to work at one trade That's what keeps the trades going is both trade guys working together The electrician brings out the circuit and the plumber plumbs it and hooks it up You did a great job.

[@fred-qy4lo]

You're over that. Does that mean you aren't going up north to have Mikey Pipes train you on those GOD DAM tankless heaters?

[@fred-qy4lo]

If there was nothing wrong with the heater just wasn't wired right, why doesn't he just have wired right then?

[@scottapt5291]

@fred-qy4lo he probably did not have the capacity in the electrical sevice available without a costly upgrade.

[@johnphillipsplumbing7148]

@scottapt5291 he was sick of that unit and bought a new one on Amazon and it showed up in 2 days,that's a subject for another day. THE THROW AWAY SOCIETY WE LIVE IN,ABSURD!

[@soccovitch]

I looked at the specs on that unit and they were just barely getting by on that size of that unit. (besides the electrical mixups) I suspect the ground temps cooled the water down just enough and then they had problems. That original video, they also walked by the new laundry washer they were messing with and said..."ever since we did this, we have problems". Yeah, running the washer and a shower is definitely a problem for that unit! lol. Those tankless are kind of a pain if you don't size them correctly for what you need them to do. Great space savers...that is about it.