What I Want from a Persona 3 Remake

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After a disappointing remaster of Persona 3, fans are continuing to push rumors and demands that Persona 3 get a remake. In this video I talk about what I would want to see in this hypothetical Persona 3 remake or "definitive edition."
Intro by Lyric: / @lyric3595
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[@Nyarly]

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[@theluminousone5883]

Literally persona 5

[@thegoatishere5079]

We a persona 3 remake I know that but more than 1 and 2

[@zephshoir]

It actually looks really interesting and polished! Will keep an eye on it!

[@phantomreaper542]

Love your videos Nyarly speaking about remasters and remakes I'm praying for a Digital Devil Saga 1&2 HD remaster at least

[@ace-trainer-aj]

Let's say, Persona 3 with FES cutscenes, P3P gameplay and FeMC route, some QoL features from 4 and 5 and The Answer included, that's my ideal Persona 3 game

[@jackjohnson8305]

You can already have all that on PC except for the FEMC route by emulating the game and getting the P3HD mod, seriously people if you got a PC then forget about P3P just emulate P3FES, it looks crispy as hell in 4k 60FPS.

[@Silverman160Zero]

I remember a mod for FES that allowed you total party control as well. Though it has been a year since I played it

[@GalaxyJakeYT]

Except of course the 2D overworld from Portable, that should be the 3D one from fes

[@arthurcosta1657]

And being able to control you party

[@ChazMcRich1]

@@jackjohnson8305 FEMC is the best tho

[@AmartharDrakestone]

A simple fix to include The Answer is to just unlock it after completing male MC's story, and label it appropriately.

[@Matoro2002]

since the exploration is limited, they could probably have it be a side mode, like Cindered Shadows in Fire Emblem Three Houses (the player can even create a new MC for each playthrough of Cindered Shadows because skills can't be carried over, they could just do the same thing for The Answer)

[@kauanjos3199]

They should've make the answer a post game like in p5 third semester, but you need to max agis confidant to play it. And carry all the stats, nyx level requirement could be lower to accomplish that

[@ryanwalters5290]

Before anything else I just want it to be real

[@dmcg2834]

Amen brother

[@Lichzim]

This

[@JellyFilledEmpanada]

But but but my copium!

[@BitchChill]

Let me know how deep it cuts before it’s real

[@egbertmilton4003]

@Annoying smug anime avatar As if the writing of 3 wasn’t already quite shoddy. You think things after FES made them worse?

[@stregas7050]

What i wanz from a p3 remake: Number 1 MAKE A REMAKE FOR FUCKS SAKE

[@Paws42]

One idea I had for a potential P3 remake was to rework the Koromaru walks to be similar to the bike trips in P4 Golden: where you could bring a party member who'd then learn a new skill that they wouldn't normally learn: For example Yukari could get Myriad Arrows, Jumpei could get Power Charge. Mitsuru and Akihiko could get the Megido skills, Koromaru could get Evil Smile and Ghastly Wail. Atlus could look to the party member boss fights in the Answer for inspiration for the bonus skills

[@michaelhall736]

For the remake I would like to see the SEES members getting 3rd tier Personas since they're the only ones to not get them in their expanded versions. You would get them the same way as in the other games. By talking to them during the final month of the game. And they would also have a skill that's unique to them. Yukari would have a skill that fully revives all fallen party members, Junpei would have a skill that casts power charge on the entire party, Akihiko would have a skill that casts all stat debuffs on all enemies, Mitsuru would have a skill that casts mind charge on the entire party. Aigis would have a skill that casts heat riser on the entire party, Ken would have a move that makes the entire party immune to instant kill spells once. And Koromaru would have a skill that inflicts heavy fire damage on all enemies but hits them all with Sukunda.

[@devinbuettgenbach2941]

Really well thought out list that fits everyone. I especially like the Koromaru skill

[@handles_are_idiotic]

yes let's play persona 5

[@devinbuettgenbach2941]

@@handles_are_idiotic P4G did it first. Full credit to them there too, the skills given for the third awakening were actually pretty useful and thematic. Naoto's shield made me very happy because it actually let her realise her goals to protect Yu and the rest of the team. Kanji's universal knockdown is also really fun to just throw out.

[@asafesseidonsapphire]

Wouldn't these skills be overkill? I mean if you get Messiah on P3 you are way stronger than Nyx so...

[@michaelhall736]

@@asafesseidonsapphire The unique skills in the others were pretty overpowered as well.

[@tonythekillab8189]

The real Big Brain move by Atlus would be acknowledging P1 and P2 exist

[@fierytigergaming8112]

That'll probably never happen - Some of the crew which worked on the first two games have left the studio

[@tonythekillab8189]

@@fierytigergaming8112 The same thing never stopped Capcom when they'd re-made resident evil

[@theMoporter]

They put P2 costumes in 5/Royal. They also put P1 stuff in, and pretty much nobody cares about that.

[@Azazantei]

They'll never do that, Atlus nowadays is only about Persona 5. The Budget for SMTV? well Persona 5. The Budget for SH2? well Persona 5. Revisiting other game? so far only Etrian Fucking Odyssey, sure a step up, but really? They're only about Fucking Persona 5 Dicks nowadays, if you wanted Persona 5 Striker Royal or some shit maybe ask for P2 and P1 content then they comply.

[@shyguygaming5397]

They really need to rerelease those for the people who are curious because right now the cheapest way to play persona one is to buy a Playstation Classic for $94.

[@J2ojuiced95]

If Persona 3 ever was remade, they would definitely need to overhaul the Male MC’s social links, as they’re very weak in comparison to FemC’s (especially Moon). Knowing Atlus it wouldn’t surprise me if they only remade the Male MC side of P3, now that Portable is available on modern consoles.

[@RedHood238]

From what I search what you said about "Knowing Atlus" part that is what the rumors suggest that be the case but that is assuming the rumors are true in the first place anyway.

[@constantanxietyattacks6878]

P3 really strikes me as an example of poor forethought for it's S-Links. Most of the MC versions of the male party member's Links are basically just non-character stand ins that really are better off just being skipped, but then the FemC's route is forced to put Shinji and Akihiko's links in the wrong slots because the Emperor and Hierophant are already actual characters, and wastes a slot on Ryoji, who while a great character is doubling up with Pharos. I really think it'd be better if they just did a Jester/Lust kind of thing with Ryoji and Pharos, where you start with like a "Nameless" arcana and then after the reveal it turns into Death or something like that

[@asafesseidonsapphire]

Why everyone seems to dislike P3 social links? I personally find them fun, primarily Kazushi, the fortune culture club prodigee, Bebe, Kenji as it's funny to see his situation, and i mean the scene when you are cleaning the room because of the cultural Festival demonstrates a good side of him, and i think if P3 male mc would have social links with S.E.E.S members it would be strange, or at least it would hinder your gameplay progression a lot, as you wouldn't be able to access their Arcana persona till December, i mean putting it this way would be cool i guess as you don't have something to do on December, so having a social link with Junpei after you really turned friends with him discussing how to fight against Ryoji could be interesting, same with Akihiko, koromaru doesn't need it, as he basically has a social link already, you can probably even alter this sorta of social link to make so Ken appear more on it.

[@robertjif6337]

@@asafesseidonsapphire maybe because p3 characters are too human lol

[@ultimatecalibur]

@@constantanxietyattacks6878 P3 was the first SMT game with Social Links as a concept so there were a fair few flaws, like many of the mechanics in the game. You can see the improvement to many systems when P4 released. Akihiko and Shinji being Star (Hope and Self Confidence) and Moon (Fear and the Hidden Sides of people) respectively in FeMC's path actually fits in with their personalities better than Emperor (Control/Dominance) and Hierophant (Education and Obedience). Which is why they didn't replace the Student Council President and Old Couple.

[@pokekiller787x]

I understand the criticism of the persona 3 port, personally this port is what allowed me to play it for the first time, so I'm more forgiving of it. But I don't doubt I would feel the same way if I had played P3 before this release.

[@costelinha1867]

While I'm glad for you, yeah, this port is pretty meh. Honestly I'd advise most people to just emulate P3P if they really want to play that specific version. PPSSPP literally runs on a toaster.

[@VioletMilks]

This is my first time playing P3 too, but I decided to emulate P3FES instead after buying P3P. I’m kinda enjoying both, but the thing that drives me away from P3P is the audio, if they fix that then I would probably like it more.

[@pokekiller787x]

@@VioletMilks the thing kinda putting me off of emulating FES is the fact you can't directly control party members. That just sounds really frustrating for the sake of being frustrating to me.

[@asafesseidonsapphire]

@@pokekiller787x frustrating, it might be in the start but mid-game it gets pretty enjoyable and if you like farming the AI helps a lot with it, just do not use Act Freely, focus on Knockdown and Full Assault, Mitsuru literally never uses Marin Karin on these options, one thing though there are some Tartarus boss fights where it would be easier for you if she hits Marin Karin, specifically one with the Knights, oh and abuse the weapon fusing system, and try each weapon to see which you like more, also try to make the elemental ones they are pretty good, and abuse knockdown, and try to not get ambushed I guess, always scan enemies even bosses, as the allies will know their weaknesses or what elements they null/resists even if it doesn't appear to you.

[@GamerConnoisseurRei]

if you like, you also can play Persona 3 FES with controllable party using Ps2 emulator

[@jomaq9233]

I think the main reason why the protagonist could even use multiple weapons in FES was to make up for the other party members still being AI controlled, so you could still have consistent access to their weapons Hence, why it was strangely cut in Portable, because everyone can now be controlled manually

[@robertjif6337]

Sadly since they removed it weapon master did not really make a sense

[@afro4640]

@@robertjif6337 that skill just doubles your weapon damage doesn't it?

[@NachtKaiser666]

100% agree with everything you said. I'd also rework the social links so you can max them without going into a relationship automatically. Letting the player choose like in P4 and P5 makes sense. You could still go down the harem route, but you can choose to max your links without engaging in a single relationship as well. More options are always good!

[@davidtimmer596]

Also, no automatic forced romances. One thing I'm VERY thankful for in 4 and 5 is letting the player choose who they want to romance, and knowing me, I'm a commitment guy, so I always go for 1 girl per Persona game. Romanced Ann in 5 and Rise in 4. 3, however, you're automatically forced into a romantic relationship, despite you wanting to answer in a platonic way, because you like someone else.

[@MrSTVR]

Having just finished Portable I think they need to completely overhaul December because there is damn near nothing to do due to the school break and SEES not wanting to go to Tartarus anymore. Add to that there's only like 3 social links you can do at night time and it just feels like padding where all progression grinds to a crawl.

[@Mavuika_Gyaru]

I definitely found myself just sleeping through the last 2 months. No way to increase your own or your friends stats or just discover random stuff like the maid Cafe in persona 5

[@artificialaceattorney6822]

I agree. You should at least be able to hang out with Mitsuru to make things easier for SL completion in January.

[@scraggles2978]

​@@Mavuika_Gyaru if you go to the arcade at night you can increase some of your personas individual stats. Str, Mag, and Agi. That was all I did the last month or so at night.

[@Mavuika_Gyaru]

@@scraggles2978 true but I already had a 99 in all stats Orpheus Talos

[@Neucher]

17:45 that sounds incredible. Imagine you could watch full movies with random commentary with the person you are watching. Similar to the random dialogue in Mementos.

[@GrapefruitVodka3]

I feel like it’s important to mention how atlus made new p3 character models and settings for the dancing game that they could just reuse. Maybe expand on the social links to allow you to visit their rooms so those exists in p3d too

[@shawklan27]

I want a persona 1 & 2 Remake

[@hunter-wt7wv]

Atlas likes to act like those games don’t exist

[@whattimedx]

Bro ...

[@unicorntomboy9736]

Atlus doesn't even acknowledge their existence

[@Ragnarok540]

Me too, the PSP ports are good but a remake would be amazing.

[@kierenbuckley370]

get Square Enix to remake them in the HD 2D engine

[@bubbletea_]

there's a tactics memory option in the config menu for PS2. something i'd like to add on to this theoretical version: direct commands option is fine, but i'd honestly like them to keep the expanded tactic commands list from FES in addition. even in games like dragon quest where it defaults to direct orders, they still have a good set of tactic settings to play around with. once you've learned out how the AI works you can consistently get the results you want thru just the tactics and it honestly becomes really addicting. a lot less repetitive menu inputting as well which is nice.

[@pineappleactavis420]

hey bubble guy

[@ramenrider7233]

"this isn't persona 2, spreading a rumour won't make it come true" LOL

[@FrogPrinceMichael61]

it's kinda fun watching this after Reload came out

[@T_DK13]

I love it when he say's "its just rumours" lol. It makes me happy to know we actually got it after all the theorising and speculation.

[@acemaison2834]

In persona 5 royal , in that lounge thing where u can play cards with users. U can actually watch a couple persons concerts . So yea nyarly is right they can put stuff like that in

[@costelinha1867]

"It's almost like playing an entirely different game" And that's precisely, why I doubt Atlus would include the female protagonist even IF a P3 remake turned out to be real. It would probably take much more effort than Atlus is willing to make.

[@0MujaKina0]

I'm just here for Femc/Kotone! I like her a lot!😄She brings me more happiness! I identify with this character! She is SO CUTE and funny! (PSP) Persona 3 Portable was my first Persona game!

[@wznderl4nd]

If we get a persona 3 remake I definitely want better social links (like they did in 4 and 5) I find it annoying that you can’t max the social links out (for potential romance partners) without others getting jealous and having to be intimate with them instead of being friends if you don’t wanna date that person

[@Hebleh]

With all due respect those first 3 minutes were agonizing mann, what are you even talking about You think Atlus of all companies wouldn't do something anti-consumer? And give out free codes for a whole game? After everything this company has been doing in the past few years with DLC pricing and treatment of older titles? I want to live in the world you're speaking of 😅

[@RedHood238]

Definitely which is why if they do a remake of P3 probably do dlcs with and let's say a 2023 release or next year for example I am not going to be surprised if they do it.

[@floridianliau35]

12:08 About that, you can edit the settings to turn on tactics memory to keep the command assigned to each party member. I never tried it as my game and emulator kept crashing before reaching the first few Tartarus blocks.

[@JaredThe]

Aigis the First Mission mention

[@lightningfarronxp8899]

Hot take: I hope they keep tarot reversal (reversing a social link). I know it's annoying when it happens but honestly I think it's kind of cool and realistic if you blow someone off too much you can piss the off. Also keep the exhaust system. Again I know it's annoying getting kicked out of tartarus but it's pretty realistic and relevant to the story that you can only be in the dark hour for so long before getting tired.

[@malbo-]

I respect your opinion, but as someone who only played portable I would probably hate the game if I couldn't explore tartarus for as long as I want

[@mrbubbles6468]

I distinctly remember P5 having a lot of complaints sbout people not being able to play how they wanted due to story and needing to sleep. Not to mention one of the Links litterally gets rid of tirdness so after exploring the grind Dungeon you can still do things. They’ve clearly understood that fatigue is an awful idea.

[@ArshadZahid_nohandleideas]

Oh yeah, speaking of which, we need the male protagonist to have the ability to max out a female's Social Link while remaining friends with them Pretty self-explanatory

[@asafesseidonsapphire]

@@mrbubbles6468 i have one question, do you think people when they play P3 know that being tired is actually beneficial because of the nurse's office? I mean I basically played it with getting tired in mind, always going on Tartarus on a day that has school after it and all.

[@theadmiral4157]

I agree for the tarot reversal. It just makes it realistic

[@Laurmachi]

Other than the obvious things, I have two main things I would want from a remake. 1. Let the male protag reject female social links. I find it baffling that Makoto can't just look at a romance option and be like "yeah, let's stay friends." Especially with the other two games letting you do so. Just let me get my max social links run without me feeling like a scumbag, okay? 2. Let me finish Shinjiro's social link without getting the watch. I love Shinjiro so much, and I love the social link they gave him in the Femc route but... man if only we could keep the development we see in every link and still keep intact what happens to him throughout the game.

[@RoryRobinhood]

watching this after reload released

[@lukegedeon3559]

P3p is not a disappointment. Jesus, it’s a great game and is exactly what Atlus said it was. You can complain about the lazy up-rezzing, but that’s about it. It said what it was gonna do and did it. Can we wish it was a remake? Absolutely. This wasn’t portrayed as that though and to say you’re disappointed because it’s it not what you dreamed it would be is disingenuous. Furthermore, I don’t know how ignorant people can be, but ports aren’t as cheap as people make it out to be. The ports themselves probably cost a substantial amount just to get them running on modern software. To expect actual development to occur on p3 is insane. Full stop. That was never told to us, and that was never promised to us as consumers. They said they were porting, and they ported. That’s it. P3p is the same game as when it came out on psp. All this to say is you can disappointed that it’s not a remake, but that’s not Atluss fault. That’s our fault for thinking it would be something Atlus said it wasnt. What this video comes off as is a way to bash Atlus just to promote another game. It’s icky, it’s deceitful and it’s taking advantage of your audience. But we gotta make content somehow, right?

[@callieflowers]

Well.... its not exactly the definitive version since its missing some things from FES and Portable, but... Reload is really good!! Also, we're probably getting the Answer as DLC. Rip Kotone.

[@gaonpark9943]

We did

[@gaonpark9943]

Or should I say we WILL

[@ankar8881]

Fans:NORMAL p3 fes version? With direct comannds? Graphics? Femc? Atlus: hahaha p3p goes bbrbrbr

[@costelinha1867]

Honestly, just normal FES with direct commands and better graphics would be more than enough to me. I feel including the Femc would take a lot more effort than atlus is willing to make.

[@taurusstudios5497]

You're hear after the leak on the P3 Remake 👇

[@Turbo_Waitress]

I agree with everything you said. Also, thanks for calling out the lack of Junpei and Akihiko social links. Junpei is understandable for at least not having a romance link for FMC, but he still could have had a standard link. I know this probably wouldn’t happen, but I would quadruple dip for something like this.

[@jackflynn412]

I just want P5 Arena or even Persona 6. I don't think Persona 3 needs to be remade and I like FES on my PS3 as is. Hell I'd go as far as to say I'm tired of remakes in general. We've had an overabundance of remakes in the past few years and I prefer playing games that can offer new stories and experiences. And while I don't believe the rumors of a P3 remake or the Akechi game, I'd rather the Akechi game be real because it would be a brand new story we haven't seen before.

[@RedHood238]

16:25 After seeing Persona 5 and Royal dlc practices you bet Atlus will do it just like they did with P5/Royal and their other games they will like the personas you mentioned but also costumes and probably more. Which is why that maybe if Persona 3 does get a remake Atlus will not doubt from what have seen they love dlcs and milking the fans for all of their worth. Which I won't be surprised if they do it.

[@justasoulsfan9805]

What would I want from a Persona 3 Remake: - fully voiced protagonist - both MC and FemC route - overhauled Tartarus - more demon's/personas, more social links, demon recruitment like in P5 - playable party members of course - optional bossfights against other Persona and SMT protagonists, maybe even entire parties. - more music, anime cutscenes for both MC and FemC - Burn my Dread as the opening That would be my wishlist.

[@unicorntomboy9736]

No femC. That decision on P3 P was a mistake. A female protagonist should be in their own game as the sole protagonist i.e in Persona 6

[@1saidou]

Go play Soul Hackers 2

[@lilibryant2032]

Bruh could you imagine the super bosses are fights against lv 99 versions of other Persona casts. Just like taking on demifiend in smt games

[@queenrose2009]

@@unicorntomboy9736 But it was a good decision to add a female lead that way everyone could enjoy the game. After all, the protagonist is meant to represent you so it would only make sense for female gamers to play as themselves instead of being forced to play as a guy.

[@arthurcosta1657]

I Agree with most things but the deamon recruitment

[@costelinha1867]

Honestly, if you're gonna include the anime cutscenes, the best route would be to literally remake them so then you can include the female protagonist. But of course this would be harder, as you'd have to LITERALLY REMAKE A BUNCH OF ANIME-STYLE CUTSCENES IN MODERN ART STYLES!

[@mrbubbles6468]

I mean, why would you have to do modern art styles?

[@zimonzieclown1633]

@@mrbubbles6468 Because the original ones look dated.

[@crownenvmr]

Broke: cuddle with Yukari while watching Trinity Soul Woke cuddle with Koromaru while watching Trinity Soul

[@PieStudios]

8:29 while that reason is probably A factor, I think the reason likely comes down to compression. PSP games are relatively small, and fitting all the anime cutscenes would’ve likely resulted in worse quality for something else, like the music. They likely wanted to balance the quality of the assets, and they needed to cut the anime cutscenes in order to do that.

[@Windermed]

the thing that contradicts this tho is the fact that there's mods that exist which added the FMV cutscenes back into portable best part about it? it works on REAL hardware

[@PieStudios]

@@Windermed yes, mods aren’t official though lol I didn’t say it CANT work, but that the PSP UMD couldn’t fit all of it without needing a second disc or some type of additional download

[@Windermed]

@Pie Studios my point here isn't that it's mods, its the fact that if modders could get it to work on real hardware which keep in mind, they don't even have P3P's project files yet they were able to successfully then it doesn't make sense why ATLUS couldn't do it. and as far as i know, there's a chance that it could've fit through a UMD disk (as i'm sure there was still some empty space left in the disk) but then again they could've also easily made the cutscenes avaliable as a seperate free download from the PSN store if UMD limitations were stopping them.

[@azureblizzard721]

The only thing I'd want out of a P3 remake is 1 or 2 getting one first lol

[@marka.t.s.8344]

The easiest one for me is some allusion to all the novels. Imagine old documents of sorts, with say, special outbreak shadows that happen randomly or with the regular mini bosses that feature content from all the supplement material, like the Strega midquel or the Shinji prequel, al within the game itself. Maybe even granting you access to them through the computer in the chairman room? That, and also other stuff, like the audio dramas being available with subtitles (or dubbed, who knows) or in the form of some diary thingies: In some guides for the game, Portable if I recall correctly, the characters were introduced by giving the reader a look into their "Facebook" page, think of using the computer in your room to scroll through their pages and read their entries that are based on the dramas, or just to know a little more about them, including some pictures and fun interactions in DMs like in Catherine. Just anything that expands and includes all the content seen in supplemental material that is either unaccessible or unreachable by most of the community.

[@Nocturne989]

Honestly I don't think a weird frankenstein's monster of FES, Portable, and new assets made to look like PS2 assets (assets made for an engine that has been dead for ten years) is the play at all. The game just needs a full on, from the ground up remake.

[@costelinha1867]

I think it's probably the best route, though the most unlikely as well. (Although if they do so, I hope they do a few changes to the Tartarus so it's no longer just a set of boring procedurally generated corridors.)

[@getfixedlem]

Honestly this, why would they remaster p3 in an old engine from a decade ago when they have hd assets from the dancing games and the engine from persona 5

[@costelinha1867]

@@getfixedlem They don't even have that old engine anymore.

[@fuzzie6299]

They cooked...

[@xyrone4357]

They fuckin cooked...

[@tahmidrahman5367]

They actually cooked

[@IFuckingLoveFrenchToast]

THEY FUCKING COOKED

[@costelinha1867]

"I don't think they need to get rid of tartarus" Yeah, specially cuz that would be impossible, how the hell are you gonna have p3 without the tartarus.... but I would appreciate if they made it more diverse than just a boring set of procedurally generated corredors with 0 life on them.

[@flushete2352]

how do you even remove tartarus out of the game when its like one of the major plot points but yeah a rework of the floor distribution could be cool

[@costelinha1867]

@@flushete2352 Indeed, it would be like removing the Temple of the Ocean King from Zelda Phantom Hourglass, yes a lot of people complain about the repetition of that dungeon, myself included, but there's no way you can have Phantom Hourglass without it, as it's essential to the game's plot. But a rework would be nice. Not just floor distribution, but do something to make the floors look more diverse. Tartarus just looks so empty and boring to crawl trough. Even the first person dungeons in Strange Journey are more interesting to me.

[@flushete2352]

@@costelinha1867 I belive keeping it ai generated is the way to go ,because its has like 260 floors. While persona 5 palaces are more entretaining tartarus is huge so the best move possible would be to improve the possible random generated floors

[@costelinha1867]

@@flushete2352 I agree, just improve the randomly generated floors, the problem is not procedural generation itself, there are plenty of examples of it being used in amazing ways. It's just that the way it was used in p3 left a lot to be desired to me. But it can be improved, it definetly can be improved, specially with modern technology.

[@spydersoup8447]

Maybe they could set up Tartarus like how they improved on Mementos in Persona 5 Royal.

[@sonickhable]

Having a remake on the same system as a port of the original isn't bad. If anything, it allows people to choose which version they want to play

[@JoeyJoestar1996]

Leaving The Answer completely the same is a bad idea… Instead of leaving The Answer completely the same, they should add quality of life features, like being able to select what difficulty you want to play The Answer on, and also letting us use the Persona Compendium so we can register and resummon Personas. Also, The Answer shouldn’t be available from the beginning, it should be unlocked after beating The Journey, and The Answer should require you to load a save file that proves that you beaten The Journey, and depending on which Protagonist you chose to play as, SEES will refer to the Main Male Protagonist if you chose to play as him in The Journey throughout the story in The Answer, and if you played as the Main Female Protagonist, then SEES will refer to her throughout the story instead.

[@spydersoup8447]

I don't know, that type of technology hasn't always been easy. Sure, there've been games that did this like the Mass Effect trilogy, but even then, that comes with complications, especially if the game files were to be accidently screwed up like what can happen back in the 360 days when playing the original Mass Effect trilogy. I would love it if more games were to do this type of data carry over feature, but it also comes with a curse. Someone in RPG Maker Forums did bring this up with the forum with the title "Data carry over - what's your opinion?", they explain it very well, so I suggest checking it out. I'd give you the link, but I can't because otherwise, this comment would be automatically deleted.

[@vo1ce147]

Nyarly : why not adding new persona while at it..... Me : yeah with Dante from devil may cry series

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

There are some demons I wish could be added to the P3 compendium, most of which from Dx2 or other 3D titles, like Xi Wangmu, Astaroth, Belial, all that stuff

[@Kekorock1]

A lot of Persona 3 assets were already remade actually, in Persona 3 Dancing.

[@spydersoup8447]

And Persona 5 Royal with all the P3 related DLC.

[@juro7854]

I'd want them to remake P1 and P2 duology before they do P3. And there's plenty of SMT that I think should be ported or remade before they think about touching P3. Like the eShop is closing next month so I think it's a great time to capitalize on that with the PQ duology, SMT IV duology, Strange Journey, Soul Hackers, and the Devil Survivor duology. Or the other PS2 era games, now that we have P3, P4 and Nocturne all we don't have is Raidou and DDS. Or the plenty of more obscure games pre PS2. I understand that P3 was the most requested remake but at the end I still think announcing a remake after getting a port is not a great decision. It's not like FFVII where they gave us the original while they were working on the remake because it was taking forever

[@mrbubbles6468]

How do you know it’s not like FFVII? That could be exactly why we got the ports for all we know.

[@TheMightyMRP]

It'd be extremely difficult to remake P1 and P2. They'd have no previous assets (instead, they have all the P3 cast from P3 Dancing), so they'd have to build everything from the ground up. They'd have to either add, or have no social links (which has become a basic concept for the Persona games), and change some plot points like Hitler. It's definitely possible, but a P3 Remake is more probable.

[@KeybladeJedi]

The DS/3DS games could do with an actually good port for modern consoles (switch because nintendo) and PC at least because they aren't too old aside from raidou and DDS on the PS2. What really needs to happen is a full english translation of the SNES or PS1 versions of the first 3 SMT games (should throw in megami tensei: old testament for OG megaten). All we ever got was an IOS port of the GBA version of SMT 1. Nothing for SMT 2, If, and old testament outside of the fan translations. Yeah, they're harder to manage then modern megaten but we need it for game preservation and so everyone can legally experience the beginning of the franchise. Probably won't sell well if they do make them because of how old and difficult they are so they would need some quality-of-life enhancements that can be turned off at will.

[@thelaw_00]

@@TheMightyMRP also, since P1 and P2 are so drastically different from P3-5, like no social link, daily life sim, dating sim, etc., there's no guarantee that newer fans who've never played them would be interested or be turned off from just how different they are. They could start with P1 but depending on the sales and feedback, they might not even remake P2 duology. Or heck, could even turn it into the modern style persona games but the games would loose its essence.

[@juro7854]

@@mrbubbles6468 okay so I got my timeline wrong. It turns out that the port was released months after the remake was when I thought the remake was announced a few years beforehand

[@urm0m69]

If you ask me, what I would love in a remastered version of P3 would be for it to have both MC and FeMC, allows you to control your allies in battle, has the FES extra story, and skill selection when fusing... Besides the obvious stuff like better graphics, etc.

[@yolinhoz1724]

"this is not persona 2, spreading a rumor won't make it come true" welp

[@23tlp]

I agree with most of the stuff in the video, I would love every single one of those changes a lot. But one thing that I feel that portable has done way better is that you can REJECT people in social links. I always hated in FES that every social link with a female character will lead to romance, I find it kind of uncomfortable as I don't see those characters like that at all. On the other hand it would be nice if the FEMC had better romanceable options, like, c'mon, one of them is dead (which they tried to fix by making him come back to life, which I highly disagree), two are a freaking entity and one is a CHILD, that is just so wrong.

[@spydersoup8447]

There's also the fact that there are 2 other male student Social Links that would be great romance options for the female protagonist and the perfect balance with how the male route has romance options for the female party members and two non party member female students you bond with. It just feels weird that here, while they're not exactly forced romances like in the male route, they still fall for you with no romance option and the game labels it as a friendship route. Aigis has this same thing too in the female route, which BTW, that could also be another interesting romance route in the female route as many people in the Persona fanbase really wanna see LGBTQ+ representation in the series and being given the option to date everyone regardless of gender.

[@kitsunehanyou09]

what I'd like them to do for a P3 Ressurection (to keep in with the theme) is to replace Kenji with Junpei for the Magician arcana, or even have 2 different options to social link with, example would be for the emperor or Star arcana so you can chat with Akihiro and the moon arcana for Shinjiro instead of champion eater boy; and then either change the dialogue in operation babe hunt or change it because it's really awkward now. FeMC's route didn't have to deal with it and nothing of value was lost. Maybe throw in an execution animation because the half-baked dual attack they used in P3P is so sad compared to what we have now should they decide to remake it with new models

[@SonicTheCutehog]

I would also want the male protagonist's social links to be reworked to have all members of S.E.E.S. as social links, replacing their respective arcanas (and moving Chiriro to the Hermit Arcana to keep it canon with Persona 4).

[@Kamenriderbuild964]

being able to save shinjiro was the biggest retcon of the series and also creates a huge plot hole going forward

[@chaval6903]

it also makes some character arcs not hit nearly as hard anymore i think they fucked up by adding the option to save him

[@Fuggettabouttitt]

It was pretty lame.

[@muchluck7981]

Honestly, not really. It's FEMC only for one thing so it makes it more unique for her playthrough. Also if we ever get an answer for the FEMC, I would like to see them make Shinjiro the playable character instead of Aigis. it would create more deviation for FEMC with MC. But the more important thing for me is what kind of plot holes are they creating in the first place?

[@jomaq9233]

It’s not really a retcon or plot hole if it’s an alternate universe from the male version

[@Fuggettabouttitt]

Shinjiro's death is integral to the plot, themes and motivation of characters. Even if it's an alternative universe it's a gayer universe.

[@superchargedweenie7582]

Nyarly listen, I love your videos man and I doubt you’ll see this comment, but the P3P port is a PORT, not a remaster. Yes they said the remastered the graphics, but that still doesn’t change that it’s a port of the game.

[@SirDanFilmsUnltd]

I’m good with pretty much all of these suggestions. The only thing I personally would change is to do with The Answer. Granted, I really like the story content, but I just did not enjoy the experience of playing it, so I’d rather they just made one more movie to go along with the other P3 movies. Heck, maybe this is asking too much, but if they did something like the Pokémon Black/White movies where they released two simultaneously, they could do a version with Makoto and another with Kotone. With how little they’d need to change, potentially, it doesn’t seem impossible, but definitely a loooooong shot. Or, if it’s kept in game, just add a darn compendium. The original not having a compendium was weird and embarrassing.

[@spydersoup8447]

And my hope for the female route version of The Answer is they would use it to answer the many questions about the female route that are currently left unanswered, perhaps include explanations as to why Elizabeth took Theodore's place on the quest she's on since in the original Japanese version of the P4A games, the P3 protagonist is actually referred to as 'they', not 'he' like in the English versions and in this one scene in Ultimax where Elizabeth approaches the door, you can't actually make out if its' the male protag or the female protag. So, it shows that Elizabeth has taken her brother's place in her quest. And maybe, with the New Game+ ending that's brought up here, I'd put in the explanation for that at the start of female route version of The Answer where it turned out he actually did die at the end, but on the exact same day as the protagonist in this timeline and that the New Game+ ending was just him being granted the chance to enjoy life one final time. This is my current head canon obviously, but we'll see how Atlus approaches this.

[@OdorGod]

Next: What I want from a Revelations: Persona remake

[@costelinha1867]

Now for the remake of Persona 2 that let's us make humors real in real life.

[@opalpal1673]

Why can't they just bundle these games together like how Kingdom Hearts did it's bundles. Bundle Persona 1, innocent sin and eternal punishment. Bundle 3 and p3p. Bundle 4 with 5. And bundle the q games with ultimax. I don't need a remake for Kingdom hearts 1 and I don't need a remake for 3. Just make it easier to actually obtain these games.

[@kingteddieP4]

Theo does have a model..he’s a boss lol.

[@thereverend6114]

Too bad we won't be getting a P3 remake anytime soon. Also P3 FES is objectively better than P3P, saying otherwise is complete nonsense and I genuinely cant comprehend how some people think this is up for debate.

[@abyazkarim6755]

I personally think you shouldn't automatically get into a relationship once you rank 10 a female character's social link.

[@NitsuaGamer]

Well for the time being, people will just have to emulate FES and play Portable on whatever console they own. But it would be awesome to have an ultimate edition that has the best aspects of both games. Though for now, it’s a pipe dream.

[@Krow621]

So basically fixing P3P? Is what I'm getting for your wants. Me personally I want a straight up remake from scratch in the P5/R engine and I would vastly prefer that over Persona 6. Albeit I do understand that it's selfish desire because I haven't played P3 in it's entirety so a remake would be entirely new experience for me for the most part. Though imagine how cool it would be to see P3 in P5/R engine. It'd also be cool if they reanimated the cutscene with the same artist who did the P5R cutscenes. Maybe a few easter eggs to P5R and P4G could be added. I think it's given we should get QoL features and the best parts from both FES and Portable. We could also get baton pass and perhaps even minigames similar to how P5/R had darts and in the same vein as the Yakuza series. Imagine how cool Karaoke with SEES could be. You could play songs like Heaven from P4/G, I Believe from P5R, and Counterstrike from P5S. SEES could also receive new forms of their Personas like they did in P5R. A form of Thieves Den where you could unlock awards and physically see them in game and views movies. They could also recompose the soundtrack. Sure the story and characters would not be completely new like a Persona 6 but there's enough that they could add that would make a P3 remake it's own unique experience. When remakes are too faithful to original they tend to flop, kind like how Pokemon BDSP did and most fans would much rather play Pokémon Platinum and the original Diamond & Pearl.

[@Fndlord]

A P3 RM would be 🔥. I hope they add like an extra bit of content as well for us who put over 200+ hours into P3P. It should also come without mentioning that it would be cool if they added all the features that made P5R amazing. Social links vs Confidants also, I feel like the difficulty of min maxing which days were appropriate for each link vs another was kind of tedious and I literally couldn’t do it without a guide. I like the flexibility of confidants more to be honest.

[@natenamaxisbored]

Honestly I don’t know about you guys, but I’d want either Persona 6 or Persona 1 and 2 being remade from the ground up, but if they do Persona 6 instead I’d happy either way

[@RoastedPheasant]

Persona 5 Royal Persona 4 Golden Persona 3 Azure

[@BKWy95]

Graphical Remaster does not mean the whole game is a Remaster 🙄 obviously the character art used was upscaled and not the 480p of the PSP…

[@Nin_the_Shinobi]

As someone that is longing to play Persona 3. Is the Port really that bad? Should I just not even bother and just want the anime or is it passable enough to play?

[@loganbigmo]

If you're longing for it, get it. It's passable enough to play. I speak from personal experience. But, once you're done, you'd still have to search up cutscenes for 'The Answer' and, if you're like me, search up some of the cutscenes that the PS2 versions had that Portable removed.

[@patheticplague9359]

The port was my first experience of it and I loved it. I understand it can be disappointing to previous fans of the game, but for someone going into persona for the first time, it's good

[@Mayahiime]

the port has issues but it's mostly overblown and if you've never actually played p3 before, it's definitely pretty good

[@verymelonman12]

Yeah the thing is, what this fandom means when they want a p3 remaster is p5 royal with a p3p skin over. That's gonna take a lot of money in order to add things like cutscenes and the answer to address femc, money and effort Atlus would never spend. Sad to say this "remaster" they did is the best they were ever going to do.

[@setythewindsage6576]

I think the reason the police station sells Aigis’ weapons is because they’re likely getting connections for the Kirijo group. And likely the reason it updates is because they are developing weapons for her because she is active again so resumed work based off old research.

[@derobgreen7120]

Something I want to add would be a new secret boss, the demi-fiend

[@alfie4234]

I thought the anime cutscenes were cut out because of the limitations of the psp or something like that. They should’ve put the anime cutscenes in the male route if they could :/

[@spydersoup8447]

But it would make the female route seem unfair, like how it's not fair that only the male route gets the anime cutscenes while the female route doesn't have them, it's almost like Atlus doesn't treat her as special. I can imagine new comers having that kinda reaction towards having anime cutscenes in there.

[@alfie4234]

@@spydersoup8447 but if the female route was created way after the male route, I’m sure people won’t mind that the female protagonist doesn’t have cutscenes, and I’m sure it’s more unfair to the animators of the male route to take them away.

[@spydersoup8447]

@@alfie4234 I'm talking about the new comers who've never played the original version or FES and thus, they don't have any knowledge or context of what FES was like.

[@YunaTuna01]

bro predicted the future

[@soulaver]

I am not saying they should not try to do more but PLEASE look into the issues of porting games based on RenderWare engine (nocturne is example as well). It actually is not easy and requires translating whole game . They cannot just take assets like a Lego blocks and put them into unity. This definite port is not that far off effort wise than actual full remaster.

[@jandjstudios1347]

It seems like Persona 3 Reload won't have the answer or femc route when watching the trailer. I think its just gonna be a remake of p3 original. maybe they'll have the answer and FEMC route as DLC which i would not be surprised. Or (and this is even more unlikely) theyll make like a whole "Persona 3 royal" from the remake and have that stuff, although that would be super stupid.

[@7thAlchemist_0174]

Well this video suddenly became more relevant

[@7thAlchemist_0174]

Now this is even more relevant

[@slxdeprod]

I've got some ideas about this but I'll say my expectations or hopes have gotten loftier since more evidence is coming out continuing to point at a full remake happening. -updated graphics -modeled cutscenes like FES had -FeMC returns -anime cutscenes back in, even if they're fully redone for both routes -The Answer included as a watchable epilogue in chapters -obviously party control -fusion skill selection -more nighttime social links (or at least better scheduling) -perhaps a more robust social stats system like P5 had -(I'm gonna get hate) but Shinjiro and Chidori dead. As much as I love Shinjiro, being able to save these characters in P3P diluted the strength of the story. -transmogrification of overworld costumes both inside and outside of Tartarus -the ability to rewatch cutscenes -music player of some sort -social links for all SEES members regardless of protagonist gender (should go without saying but no romanceable Ken this time) -Evokers usable as weapons similar to P5 -maybe some expanded social link levels (some of them felt like they were over in 30 seconds and nothing meaningful happened) other than that I'm hard pressed. But I will say two things I'm worried will change that absolutely shouldn't: -the soundtrack. Don't rerecord or remix the songs (or if you do please do an in-game option to toggle between new and old soundtracks so people don't need to mod it in...because we will) -Evokers no longer being used (this is a big one because of the suicidal imagery and increased sensitivity to that these days)

[@indecision6326]

As far as reused features go, I think you've said what we're all thinking. I feel like it would be perfectly fine with that stuff alone.

[@marisolgarcia8182]

I wish y hope y prey for this will happen atlus plis

[@36inc]

Fes is better honestly i never wanted to play persona 3 with 4 and 5s extra features. The fatigue and only one controllable character is what lets it stand apart. Its that game i fell in love with. So why not just improved 4k graphics more in line with persona 5s engine and make the answer part of the main narrative. Like the true ending dungeons you get in the other two. Fes was fine. Also no one who died in the original should be able to survive. It just runs too counter to the themes

[@JMobster9]

If they were to remake P3 I'd want them to go all out: P5 graphics, all the recent gameplay additions and systems, new Personas, etc. And to be completely honest, and I know this won't ever happen but just imagine if it did, I wouldn't mind them giving the first 2 games the same treatment.

[@violeex7246]

Played Persona 5 awhile ago and started getting into smt im playin smt v rn and u make awesome videos about them

[@SSBBPOKEFAN]

I'd say make the Light and Dark elements like in SMT4 A/5 Standard spells of their element with a chance to insta-kill based on whatever. I'd say here, the instant death effect would only activate on downed combatants. This would also mean introducing the dyne-tier versions of Hama and Mudo from SMT 5, and lets make Die For Me! and Samsara severe-tier damage.

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

The dyne versions of Hama and Mudo were in Dx2, not SMT V

[@SSBBPOKEFAN]

@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 Didn't know that. I just assumed they'd have -dyne variants in V. Didn't expect them to skip from medium damage to severe.

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@SSBBPOKEFAN They don't have medium damage either They have weak damage tier, heavy damage tier, and severe damage tier

[@makoto-moonlight1277]

I'd love to see persona 3 remake unfortunately I can't see it happening anytime soon unless atlus decides to surprise us

[@alatsus]

I'd just be happy with a defnitive version of P3 with the cutscenes/3d environments from FES and the FEMC and gameplay fixes from Portable. Maybe it'd be cool if they added more content to parts of the game where there's basically nothing to do (the first two months of the game and December), and I'd definitely enjoy the automatic romance part taken out of the girl social links. Though to be honest, I'd prefer if they remastered P2 instead.

[@JohnYakooza]

I see so many people calling this port lazy and disappointed, which in some degree I totally agree(Ai enhanced art, text error), but most of the people saying these are people who's also from English based countries, they don't know how important a basic port with no new addition besides new translation for different language is to people who isn't fluent in English and Japanese, yes the end result is disappointed, but it's not a completely disapointment, at least not for people outside US

[@costelinha1867]

Hey Hey, know what I really want.... what I really really REALLY want? (Not that we can't have both, we can have this AND THE PERSONA 3 REMAKE, but I really want this...) Strange Journey ON PC! Come'on Guys, I want it, you want it, Nyarly probably wants it, EVERYBODY WANTS IT! Give me some good old Strange Journey on pc with the option to select the skills inherited trough fusion and I'll be happy as hell. Hell I don't even care if they include redux content or not, I just desperatly want this game to be more accessible to people.

[@imjustkje]

Persona 3 remake with fully 3D models from Dancing would be nice

[@Joker3180Z]

I actually prefer the Restriction on Makoto Yuki and Kotone Shiomi with weapons it makes it so other characters weapons don't become irrelevant to those characters

[@00Sabersolos]

probably not going to happen but we can wish

[@MrDarksol]

Honestly I'm cool with what you threw into the ring and I would be happy if we did get a remake of 3. At this point I still say persona 3 got jipped because not only do we still have people fighting over which version of 3 is the better one but we also have the disappointment that is the company deciding it's the best idea to give us the PSP version and not just give us like a version that merges both of them together. At this point I would rather a remake at this rate or at least a persona 6, not just 5 for the umpteenth time again.

[@connorharnage6697]

I mean I'll take more Persona 5. It's one of the only two games I think is as good as Persona 3 and as much as people love to complain, it didn't get milked NEARLY as bad as Persona 4 and besides Persona 5 Dancing and the anime, it's some damn good milk

[@MrDarksol]

@@connorharnage6697 I mean 4 was the one that started the whole milking thing to begin with, with 5 picking up later on and being even worse but I do get your point. I still say the DLC practices still need to be ironed out though.

[@connorharnage6697]

@@MrDarksol Fair enough. Still all this stuff about ports and DLC seem fairly new to Atlas from what I've seen (I don't really bother with SMT outside of Persona) so I'm willing be more patient while they iron it out but I agree that it does need to be

[@CVIIILIN_21]

I wasn't expecting any more than I got with the Port. It's nice I can finally play P3 without having to deal with an emulator that looks like crap and I don't want to spend the time to load in the crowdsourced HD update. I think Atlus threw us a bone since they haven't put anything new out since P5. I do think the rumors about a P3 remake could be true. Look at FF7 Remake. The customer base and the desire is there. Especially with the rumor that it is being build in the same engine as P5. A lot of Japanese video game companies are turning their priorities to western markets because Japanese customers are not interested in console games as much as the western market is.

[@justinmoreno390]

If Persona 3 has a remake I need: -Fix the social link system or put the persona 4 social link system for both protagonist. -More activities beacuse I fell apart of the social links, increase your social stats there is nothing else to do. -Persona 5 mecanics like batton pass, social links rewards, change party members in middle of battle etc.

[@glowing_clod969]

Honestly I'm just glad I got to experience this game without having to track down and pay a ridiculous amount of money for an original copy of p3p.

[@viroszelmire1391]

If they ever do remake persona 3 they should 100% call it “persona 3: full moon”

[@theomegatango]

Idk how popular this opinion may be, but if they ever make this hypothetical P3 Ultimate I would hope they leave the AI Party members as an optional feature, as I really liked the feel of not directly controlling them and never had much trouble with their AI (at least after Mitsuru unlearned Marin Karin)

[@mattgriffin0231]

I didn't enjoy The Answer at all, but at the end of the day it is a part of the story and unless they retcon it and make an improved sequel, it should unquestionably be part of a remaster.