What If Darth Vader UPGRADED His Suit After Revenge Of The Sith

[@kyledean6523]

LOVE this. What if Palpatine had to reveal himself to the Jedi Council to join forces to fight a larger threat. The Vong? A returning Sith legend?

[@debutriah2854]

Oooh good one

[@imnotyourfather9375]

Yes

[@Wi-Fi-El]

Abeloth would make a good common enemy for the Jedi and sith

[@Rack-Aid]

Yo that's actually crazy

[@TonyAncom]

Vitiate would be a good Sith legend to use.

[@justinbrown4759]

I liked Vader’s cold ass line “your wish of eternal could still come true.” Then shoved palps into a stasis pod that he could never escape from hahaha.

[@jesselovell8947]

That so hilarious i just did this to him right 😸!

[@haroldgoodell6024]

This was an amazing story which I would like to see on screen but lord forbid bringing a dark version of Star Wars to the screen

[@nikko1213]

@@haroldgoodell6024😮😮 Noxllp

[@THEFINALHAZARD]

Eternal paper plate.

[@ninjamasterbuilder8675]

Grevious: *dies* Vader: it's free real estate for my suit

[@su93r62]

Finders keepers

[@TheinternetArchaeologist]

A fine addition to his collection

[@Darknesstride]

The funny thing being, it was vader's mindset that held him back the most, sidious himself said, that if vader believed in himself, he still could've become stronger than sidious, changing his suit gave vader the hope and confidence he needed.

[@Thefilipinoflashmma]

7:27 7:27

[@obi-wankeknobi8413]

Vader becoming stronger with cybernetics always seemed interesting, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone take on the angle that he would make it looks the same.

[@iamblight707]

Vader isn't tony stark, he's the scarlet witch spliced with spiderman. He doesn't need a suit.

[@TheMatizyahu]

I think it would be reasonable thing to do in the long term. If Vader's new suit would look different Sidious would definetely notice that and will attack Vader sooner before he would get comfortable and stronger with his new gear and abilities.

[@logik316]

@@TheMatizyahuSidious actually permitted Vader to customize his suit as he saw fit (and he did make some minor improvements) but switching to an entirely new suit risked killing Vader. The pain the current suit inflicted on him also strengthened his connection to the dark side

[@ericx6969]

YOU THINK HE WEAR MANDALORIAN ARMOR AND WEAPONRY TO NEGATE PALPATINE LIGHT SABER OR OUT FORCE CHOKE OR STRAIGHT UP PUNNEL PALPATINE DEATH WITH RAW PHYSICAL FORCE OF STRONGEST STEEL

[@ericx6969]

HE COULD GOT MEDICINE TO REMOVE PAIN@@logik316

[@toothhair3676]

Imagine vader having fun with his suit like it's a new speeder while crushing the inquisitors

[@Eric6761]

I can imagine him toying and messing with his suit and adding new upgrades and parts to him and him being happy reminiscing of his speeder days

[@Rock-Bottem1982]

I really feel that Vader would NOT have killed the head scientists and doctors that did the surgery to upgrade his suit. Why you ask, because in the event something went wrong, or he had some sort of damage or malfunction to his body and suit, the doctors and scientists would have had a HUGE value to Vader.

[@DefileOdds]

Not to mention, what a d!$& move. They did all that under duress, succeed and THAT'S the thanks they get.

[@rjagad]

@@DefileOdds I mean to be fair, Darth Vader is quite evil.

[@ultraironflash8140]

and I don't think he would suddenly massacre the 501st because commander appo is liked by vader

[@DefileOdds]

@@ultraironflash8140 maybe it was a bromance?

[@ultraironflash8140]

@@DefileOdds maybe but Vader wouldn't kill him for no reason and he did avenge APPO when he was killed

[@nicholasmaude6906]

IIRC Palpatine eventually got around to designing and building a far better set of cybernetics and suit for Darth Vader but he rejected them as the pain of his post-Mustafa cybernetics and suit motivated in the Dark Side.

[@Stormyy6310]

Little correction : the executor Vader commands was only produced and given command to Darth Vader after the battle of Yavin

[@firerodprime7643]

If I'm not mistaken, the ship he should be in command of is the Devastator

[@cyanimation1605]

also would there even be inquisitors at this point?

[@Stormyy6310]

@@firerodprime7643 Yes

[@LoveShaysloco]

Going to say that it was finished a short time after the death star blowed up

[@alpborakirte801]

@@cyanimation1605Yes. Sidious introduced Vader to them right after Mustafar. He fought Grand Inquisitor to test his new suit

[@jordanbutler7327]

I can't believe that you actually made Anakin's story even more heartbreaking... Moreover.... A complete and total extinction of heart and soul.

[@TheForcesWrath]

A brain, eyeballs and lungs floating in bacta seems like a RoboCop movie to me

[@Pebblewhiteface]

With barely any force output I'd have thought

[@devildavin]

@@Pebblewhiteface i was thining that too and thats what was bugging me. we know with the loss of most of his limbs his force powers were weakend so him being just his brain eyes and vital organs, wouldn't he be even weaker in the force?

[@CYBERLEE_0007]

When he said “his eyes shot open”, it could mean there is still 25% of his body like his muscles tissues and his face perhaps. Might just be floating around in his tank with a human face and what was left of his torso just mixed with machine

[@ComeAlongKay]

@@Pebblewhitefaceyeah not sure really how that works. Maybe his brain draws the power into the mechanical parts I don’t know but it’s cool idea of him getting vengeance on the emperor so I assume somehow that it would work. I mean he did have more whatever than yoda so maybe even that much was still powerful.

[@Pebblewhiteface]

@ComeAlongKay yeah he did have, and he was severely weakened and robbed of a massive amount of his potential after his injuries of Mustafar as a direct result so I have no clue how this would work either.

[@aramere3650]

there is one problem with this, as far as I can tell: removing all of the organic elements of Vader's body would reduce his connection to the force substantially. At least, this is how I understand the canon of the force.

[@bigmanhelper]

I love the way you've had Vader upgrade his suit, by utilizing Grevious' cybernetics! I can't help but wonder: What If this means of upgrading was done by Anakin Skywalker instead of Darth Vader? In other words, Vader returns to the light and then discovers the stash of Grevious' surplus cybernetics on Kaleesh? What would that cybernetic version of Anakin look and act like?

[@kingwildcat6192000]

I think the only thing that changes is the ending. Vader would still reinstate the clones but more or less rebuild the republic with them instead but still keep a firm hand on them. He'd call off order 66 and frame Palp for everything that went wrong and encourage them to come out of hiding. And look for Obiwan and eventually meet his kids.

[@RequiemPoete]

Accept He wouldn't need the advanced cybernetics as being able to use the Lightside, Anakin would be able to use the Force to heal.

[@That_One_Kobold]

​@@RequiemPoete Force healing isn't real

[@RequiemPoete]

@@That_One_Kobold It's "real" in the fictional world we are discussing. So be less jerkish.

[@That_One_Kobold]

@@RequiemPoete nope, not canon.

[@zartoru_]

I like this take, I personally think vader would come back to the light if he were to upgrade his armor, because the pain it was giving him was keeping him in the dark side. Without it and with palpatine dead/out of the picture I do think Anakin would've came back, maybe not as a light side only user but as a balanced being But the fact it could've made him go even deeper in the dark side is a possibility too and you explored it very well !

[@alexandernorton693]

What if palpatine used his second saber against windu after losing his first?

[@mariusk-l1056]

he didn’t really have any time cause right after he lost his saber windu kicked him to the ground

[@MrBarnettcm]

What if I pulled out the Glock and made your ticker stop with that dum whatif

[@TheUncivilizedNation]

In the novelization of ROTS he hides his Saber in a statue that Mace would definitely see moving. Also Anakin was in front of the statue and would notice it too

[@NerfMason]

Alternate tile: what if palpatine didn’t hear no bell

[@alexandernorton693]

@@mariusk-l1056 you forget that windu literally waited so long palpatine was able to blast him with lightning, so it doesn't seem unreasonable for him to get another lightsaber. I'm literally just requesting fan fiction

[@hopduncan7905]

What if Vader cloned himself new legs and arms and told Palpatine he looked like his burned nut bag?

[@TheTheWalker]

That is something i ever thought about. They could clone milions of soldiers but never made him new limbs or skin?

[@hopduncan7905]

@TheTheWalker Could have gotten him new lungs too but nope.

[@logik316]

@@TheTheWalkerEven the Empire has insurance companies.

[@TheTheWalker]

Stromtrooper sees Darth Vader in his Chambers. Reports to Vader and leaves. Later asked Vader how long the insurance will take to make him new limbs. Vader :" what insurance? Why the hell did i never hear that before?"

[@cm4nxd]

I believe it has something to do with midi-chlorians. I don’t think clones necessarily have the same amount of midi-chlorians as the original persons does. Potentially significantly worse. Palestine’s OG suit for Vader was specifically designed to preserve as much of his original body as possible, thereby preserving his connection to the force.

[@lesley4825]

You been killing it lately! Your videos have become my bed time stories lol Here’s another cool idea. I’ve seen a couple of people request it but I would love to see how you would tell the story. What if Anakin was originally from the old republic era and was reborn with all his memories and abilities?

[@thestarwarsgalaxy]

Wow thank you so much!! I’ve really enjoyed a lot of my recent ones

[@rtz4806]

@@thestarwarsgalaxy you gotta do that what if idea he just gave you, that is a fire what if by @lesley4825

[@paragmurthy5411]

@@thestarwarsgalaxycan you make a video on what if anakin skywalker the child of valkorian nobody did this yet

[@rtz4806]

@@paragmurthy5411 child? i had one thats similar, so what if anakin is a descendant of valkorian? (on his mothers side , so he still the child of the force) so anankin is able to see valkorian (force ghost) but no one else can, and thus valkorion teaches anakin (valkorian cant posses/ take over anakins body), and thus anakin is the rightful heir to the eternal thrown, and anakin brings the eternal empire back from the ashes, (eternal empire reveals them selfs during the clone wars)

[@DERTHIX]

Wouldn't that make him less powerful? Like how he's less powerful when his limbs were cut off...

[@guusvanes8963]

My thoughts exactly. After the loss of his limbs, his body had less midichlorians than before. If only his brain and some vital organs remained, he would likely to lose what's left of his connection with the force aka his force abbilities.

[@Odayian420]

His original suit was manufactured to leave him in constant pain. It was built to intentionally slow him down and left nerves exposed. When you live in so much pain the moment you are not in pain is like a godsend. It would allow his connection to the force not be a constant attack on his body.

[@alastor3850]

​@guusvanes8963 actually that is a misconceptions, vader is weaker because his connection to the force is weaker due to him leaving the light side but not fully embracing the dark side, mediclorian are supposed to be intra cellular and a missing limb wouldn't affect one's connection to the force, a good example of this is yoda, as he is smaller than anakin and has around the same amount of mediclorians ,yet he is much more powerful

[@oscarsantiago1038]

​@@alastor3850is this new canon bc Lucas confirmed in an interview that loosing the limbs lowered his potential in the force to lower than the emperor.

[@MrMacGee83]

It's so fucked up that Vader was basically living in an iron maiden that caused him constant pain and discomfort.

[@ryanwilliams1207]

What if ROTJ Vader went back in time and woke up in his 8 year old body during phantom menace? So basically a redeemed Vader at the end of his life wakes up as ani with all the memories he had as a former Sith Lord

[@bizmasterTheSlav]

He would be a really traumatized child

[@ryanwilliams1207]

@@bizmasterTheSlavin Ashoka he seems relatively fine. I can definitely see anakin trying to fix things since will have all his powers and experience from his previous life

[@Stardust420]

@@ryanwilliams1207it would be a really good book of war and family

[@Meme-et8ju]

Love it! I actually though I was listening to a novel at one point, and forgot this was fan-made

[@vulpixgrant]

This is probably the best one of your 'What If' video's i've seen, very compelling yet sad. How somebody who can achieve that much as what you show can still be such a sad story is crazy!

[@matthewmann8969]

What if Anakin/Vader was born in a better environment one that is not bottom of the barrel nor poor nor rich nor wealthy but upper middle class in a healthy well mannered well behaved family be it on Tatooine or another planet?

[@thestarwarsgalaxy]

Interesting

[@NathanPeel-z5s]

He would've still been powerfull in the force . The jedi would've found him still. But who knows?

[@neilmowles9581]

Without a strong role model or people he can confide in, he would still end up ignoring good advice believing they are against him, he knows better and end up being too eager and arrogant and joining the dark side. He is naturally more gifted than anyone else, without peers until he is found by the Jedi. As they said before, he was too old. If he was found earlier I believe he would also need to have different character traits, be humble, show humility. Without this it would all go to his head just as it did. It would be interesting to see how love interests and loss of family would play out in this timeline.

[@kyranarrahancock3772]

The Jedi would have found him at very a young age, painting would have been way different...

[@draconian6692]

THIS should have been cannon

[@robertvanostrand]

Bro this was so awesome and original. Nothing like anyone else in the best possible way

[@onion4620]

Totally cool loved all the different exciting twist and turns especially that Palpatine’s arms are broken and he’s in stasis so he just always in pain and locked up and can’t do nothing about it just like Vader was always in pain

[@The_Red_Legion]

3:03 imagine he said getting groceries as well in the middle of all that other stuff I know it's serious story kind of, but that would be so hilarious saying Vader just going to the local grocery store, getting some fruits and vegetables and probably some steak and ewok meat. You know just the usuals. Maybe having to stop by the pharmacy and get a little blue pill for Uncle palps

[@MrMasterDebate]

This isn’t just upgrading his suit, it’s just turning him into a droid lol

[@thatguy1488]

that’s what they did to grievous. you give someone with anakins potential the same cybernetic body that gave a no force user the ability to kill jedis and you get probably the most powerful sith ever. at least in centuries

[@Gfish17]

So this is upgrading Vader's suit basically.

[@Rmw033]

No it's not he has body still and if he was a Droid he wouldn't be able to use the force the force can only be channeled by biological matter artifical matter doesn't conduct the force

[@jerrydilley4539]

He wouldnt be a droid. Droids have cybernetic brains. Ai computers. He still HAS A HUMAN BRAIN!!!! NOT A DROID.... CYBORG. But not a "cyborg" like T100, but a "cyborg" like the "Borg"

[@kingdrae501]

You sound dumb don't ever comment again

[@amasterofsome]

Probably my favorite alt take of this concept. Good stuff dude

[@Achuidian179]

Ironically you are the last person among your colleagues (Pentre Patrol, and Fantasy Folklore) to do this. Fantasy Folklore is my favorite. Though yours is good Day 55 of my list. What if; Anakin never gave into his feelings for Padme, Aayla Secura was the chosen one and became Darth Talon, Shme Skywalker was adopted by the Tusken Raiders, Boba Fett saved his Tusken family, Count Dooku was a regular count for the CIS, Jabba the Hutt supported the Jedi at the Start of the Clone Wars, and finally, what if Sabine and Ezra fell in love?

[@thestarwarsgalaxy]

Lol yeah hope mine is good!

[@Achuidian179]

@@thestarwarsgalaxy it is a good one, my favorite is the Grogu reference AND background to why Vader needed to upgrade

[@reeceemms1643]

Here are my ideas day 15 of asking: What if Cal and Merrin had a Daughter (Jedi Nightsister hybrid)? What if Padme was enslaved during the clone wars? What if during the rescue of Han Solo Leia failed to kill Jabba and was left behind remaining as a slave? What if Din Djarain and Bo-Katan fell in love during the events of Mando season 3? What if Luke and Leia found out they were siblings earlier (like before Empire strikes back?)? Similar to the previous one, what if Luke and Leia were not separated at brith and were both raised by Owen and Baru? What if Jyn Erso survived and went on to meet and fall in love with Luke Skywalker? What if Ahsoka found Shin Hatie before Baylon Skoll? What if the Aldani Heist went fully according to plan aka the whole payroll was stolen from under the Imperial noses?

[@themandalorian6999]

Why not a son?

[@reeceemms1643]

@@themandalorian6999 because it then wouldn't have Nightsister magic. Only female Dathomirians can get the magic and it would be interesting for the character because of the inner conflict that it would bring to her having the force and Nightsister magic.

[@Manhandle730]

Meh. Mose of these would make for a few interesting paragraphs, definitely not worth an entire video

[@matthewcohen9582]

​@@Manhandle730I like the idea of the nightsister/Jedi hybrid, esp. with Cal & Merrin. Fallen Order & Jedi Survivor are outstanding games with super immersive storylines and high character investment, and not to mention Jedi Survivor just racked up seven G.A.N.G. awards a couple of days ago. The scale of the navigable universe is the only downside. Imagine a Star Wars Jedi title on the scale of something like Starfield-that would be amazing.

[@timh.boston649]

Your version of this alternate reality is the only one I've seen, I think you did a great job man. I'm very interested to see what you put out next. Excellent piece of work here! Thank you.

[@granvillimus]

If Vader underwent a cybernetic overhaul of this extent, he'd lose another massive chunk of his midichlorians. He already lost over half from his initial Mustafar injuries, and the overhaul you're suggesting would be even more extreme and devastating. Discarding his skeleton, muscles, most of his blood vessels, what remains of his skin and presumably a bunch of non-vital but still living organs that contain midichlorians. Regardless of how physically powerful and fast this overhaul could make Vader, he'd likely be weaker in the force than even a middling jedi knight (perhaps even a below average one). Against an opponent such as Sidious who can and definitely would use force powers to dominate such an opponent, that poses a big problem for Vader. Sidious could force choke Dooku, someone who wasn't worlds away from Sidious' own power. This hypothetical Vader would get destroyed. Even if he was resistant against lightning somehow, Sidious still has telekinesis and crushing moves. A suit upgrade for Vader would only be useful if it preserved all of his remaining flesh to ensure his connection to the force remains intact. And even then, it's not a guarantee that he could take out someone as OP as Sidious.

[@doctor-6123]

Here’s an idea I keep having. Vader hires scientists to begin making physically superior clones of himself, and begins having organ replacement surgeries done until he’s back to 100%. With the tech of Star Wars it would have been easy. Hell, he could even clone Padme

[@Josurr_Madhawk]

The cloning of organs would be a good idea! That would definitely work on repairing vaders body, at least by legends standards. Cloning Padme, though... from what I've seen about anything about cloning in Star Wars, it would look like her but wouldn't be her. She would not have the memories of Padme, and more than likely not act like her. This is another reminder of his loss.

[@doctor-6123]

@@Josurr_Madhawk a depressed Vader would probably try it after fixing himself, find her not able to fill the void, become even angrier, and in this rage go kill the emperor.

[@DarthTerminus-wy3gp]

Great story, loved how Vader eliminated the inquisitors and took their ship and surprising Palpatine and putting him into stasis and taking over the empire for himself

[@agmrocca8776]

Spoiler?

[@lordnarasimha2500]

I have a similar concept idea. Vader goes into the unknown regions and is captured by the Yuuzhan Vong and rebuilt with organic tech. Think u could do a story like that?

[@Jamesalec63]

He could have become the chosen one as predicted and aside from going through with this upgrade he chose to become emperor of a cult of Sith, but one question remains what of his children's destinies and the legacy of the Jedi has this changed so much or is there new hope, and if Anakin is dead no longer part of Vader's spirit or mind where did he go? Maybe Anakin became a Forse Ghost or something similar in the blackness of Vader's imagination a ghost in the machine, not his brain but in his armour. Anakin is in the form of Vader's nightmares. Anakin is as powerful as his darker side as Vader is weakened when he sleeps. While he sleeps Anakin is in his body or the remains of what's left. It's Anakin's curse on Vader. Through the foresee anything Anakin is a master of dreams.

[@cameronclophus7998]

What if Revan returned during The Phantom Menace? What if Satele returned during the Phantom Menace and trained Anakin? What if Satele returned during The Empire Strikes Back and trained Luke? What if Plo Koon was sent to fight Grievous?

[@darthraider7935]

Or here's a "what if", What IF Revenge of the Sith went the way Dooku thought it was going to go. In the book version written by Matthew Stover Dooku and Palpatine are talking about what's to come as they see Anakin and Obi-wan on video making their way to them. The "plan" was Dooku would kill Obi-wan, the grief of it would draw Anakin closer to the dark side. He would "defeat" Dooku and eventually it would come out that the Jedi were behind the war. Anakin would be the one to break the news to the Senate and the Galaxy at large. Palpatine had planned it perfectly making him the "Hero with No Fear" that people around the galaxy loved. He was to become the "general" of the new empire's force army made from those Jedi that would convert, all others would be hunted down and killed. He even talks about how Anakin losing his hand to Dooku made him "perfect" as the people saw what he was willing to sacrifice to save everybody. Imagine a Empire ruled by Palpatine, Dooku sort of in a Vice Chair role and Vader with no injuries other than the hand already lost leading the military!!!!

[@SuperGothDog]

I love star wars fan fiction, and yours is honestly some of the very best. Thank you.

[@louisdellalucca8969]

Vader in Tommy Wiseau voice: YOURE TEARING ME APART PADME!!!

[@ThatGuy-zt6po]

wow almost spilled my coffee after that one. keep em' coming.

[@IHAT3ART]

These stories about "What If's" are reallly dope... Well done

[@marcusisgod2592]

What if anakin was piloting before attack of the clones and sensed ventress fall to the darkside as her master died and took his ship to the planet to investigate. Perhaps starting a romance as they are very similar in their stories. Also what if ahsoka taught ben skywalker as she saw him as history repeating itself. What if anakin was a jedi watchmen or wayfinder. What if anakin went with kenobi to face maul and savage instead of adi gallia. What if anakin fell in love with luminara or your own version of aayla secura romance. What if oppo rancis trained anakin. What if anakin met and fell in love with ventress just before the clone wars just after her masters death. What if anakin became a jedi sentinel like a watchmen or one of those who find younglings. What if evan piel became a mentor or second master to anakin. Or anakin became a healer either before or after his mother death could be related to his friendship with offee or alternatively what if he was trained by tra sa who taught windu and actually did not forbid attachment as shown by her relationship with tholme , they could become like a pseudo parents to anakin and train him away from the temple in azati martial arts and from trasa the living force as she is a plant lady so imagine anakin controlling plant life.

[@KingPigeon5988]

I’ve been waiting for you to make this one, I’m so excited

[@DarthCimmerius]

What if anakin said the N Word when he wasnt granted the rank of master?

[@brenersilva7361]

I will try again, what if obi wan asked bokatan for help to hide luke

[@thestarwarsgalaxy]

I like it

[@marcusisgod2592]

What if darth vader went to darthomir to learn. New suit or perhaps more unique powers. Resurrect talzin maybe. what if Vokara Che became a mentor to anakin as anakin was being treated for bullying and trauma from being a slave. What if anakin fell in love with luminara unduli, serra keto or bultar swan. What if anakin was taught by agen kolar or sasee tin or adi gallia.

[@ChrisMovieUniverse]

What if Darth Vader found the sith eternal and got healed back to his old self including both hands during a new hope?

[@WildBillHickums]

Returning that level of humanity could give Vader the propensity to change back to good.

[@CYBERLEE_0007]

Suggestion: What If the Empire came across the iconic grey aliens and their UFOs?

[@TonyAncom]

What if Mace Windu after losing to Palpatine was teleported by the force to the time of A New Hope? What if Palpatine grew to actually love Anakin like a son during the clone wars?

[@star-wars-supernerd]

15:51 in this moment, the king felt true fear for the first time

[@staroceans8677]

WOW, this one was dark but EXCELLENT. The story was BRILLIANT and a natural line of thinking and reasoning for Vader. Even down to the destruction of his own children because he relinquished his role as Anakin. Thank you for the story, it was intriguing and CAPTIVATING, ABSOLUTELY enjoyable. I am a huge fan of Darth Vader good or bad I love the character.

[@thedigitalbash1506]

That "going to scare a senator part really cracked me up" 😅😅 3:04

[@AbiRabb1t]

That was insanely dark, I LOVE IT! please do more like this!

[@Lieutenant_Dude]

So basically, Vader had the scientists come to Mustafar, take anything they couldn't toss out, like internal organs, brain, eyes, spinal cord, and place them into an artificial membrane sac, and house that sac inside an artificial endoskeleton of durasteel? That's kinda nuts. I suppose that means he doesn't have skin or eyelids anymore. Less a suit and more an artificial body.

[@CYBERLEE_0007]

“His eyes shot open” he probably has eyelids and chunks of tissue left

[@Effective_tool_of_Satan]

Is nice to see Ahmed Best. He deserves everything after the hell he went through.

[@agentraptor63]

It would be really interesting to see this if vader did not bombard tatooine and instead hunted down obi wan on the planet, possibly causing obi wan to sacrifice himself so a younger luke could escape the planet, creating an alternate original trilogy.

[@wonderquestor]

A cool follow up to this: The Yuzhaan Vong eventually invade. They would be no match for Vader’s empire, but they would give it the toughest fight they’ve had in decades. With the Empire distracted, Asharad Hett starts a new group of force users. Instead of becoming a Sith, he forms a group of force users similar to gray Jedi: Cal Kestis, Merrin, Kyle Katarn, and a few others had managed to escape to Tanalorr. Maybe we even learn that Luke or Leila somehow managed to escape the bombardment and that they were helped to fake their own deaths. Them being on Tanalorr was why Vader couldn’t feel them in the force and thought he had eradicated all force users. The Koboh Abyss had shielded them from Vader. This group had secretly built an army for years, and had found advanced force knowledge at the Jedi temple there. They also found long forgotten High Republic technology that allowed them to build advanced weaponry and star ships. With the Empire weakened from the Vong war, they are able to move in. They manage to steal the emperor’s pod and offer to free him and heal him if he agrees to help them. He agrees of course to be freed but plans on betraying them once Vader is taken down. This sets up an epic showdown between Vader and the group of force users including Palpatine. If they end up winning, it then becomes them vs Palpatine and sets up the thrilling conclusion

[@noneyabidness9644]

Your what ifs are good. You should easily be in the 100s of k subs.

[@truegamer2819]

Palpatine: how..sky walker or i can say Dark Vader.. how is your suit so upgrade able 😧 Vader: YEEEESSS 😈

[@maynardhahn2873]

Look how powerful grievous was with his cybernetics they upgraded his suit and cybernetics. He would’ve been unstoppable from anyone in the Star Wars universe.

[@StrafeMoney]

Damn this was dark but I need these stories and the good ones so I can achieve balance

[@Smoothjedi]

Seems shortsighted to kill your technical support team immediately after waking up

[@samuelzubah9581]

You would keep the secret to your new found strength with people who could use it against you or sell it to your adversaries alive?😂😂😂 First mistake.

[@Smoothjedi]

@@samuelzubah9581 Like it or not, any mechanical system is prone to failure, and one so critical to being even able to move is going to need people with knowledge about how it works. The key is to keep those people happy and well compensated, which the empire is quite good at, to prevent them from turning traitor.

[@dimetime35c]

Just from his personality I dont see why vader wasnt constantly tinkering with his suit. Id imagine when he wasnt working for the emperor he was still building things and making upgrades to his suit.

[@glitterknight11189]

Narrator: Why do you sound so sad?? You sound like you’re fighting back tears. I know it may sound funny to you and that I do not know you, but I am actually concerned.

[@noneyabidness9644]

No way Palpatine would believe the inquisitorious had any chance against Vader.

[@MillenniumFalcon]

This was so good and crafty storytelling. I wish this became an adaptation for the big screen.

[@Audienc4u]

The less flesh, the less connection he has with the Force.. he'd never do that.

[@thomasbardoux1692]

Unless he no longer cared about the force

[@coppertopv365]

🎯

[@alanruiz9296]

Finally, someone who knows something, maybe he would change his prosthetics for better ones and suit, but he needs his body for the force, he was worried whe he lost his first hand imagine trying to lose everything

[@alanruiz9296]

​@thomasbardoux1692 Yeah, he knows he has the strongest connection to the force, and that make him special, so I don't think he will ditch his best weapon

[@jayk5114]

He didn't lose flesh though by just changing cybernetics, right? Like his body is still there, just upgraded cybernetics.

[@Anthonydanells]

Since vader is vader, what if henused the cloning vats to use his DNA to grow a clone. But to surgically amputate the limbs he was missing, lungs and whatever else that could almost if not bring him back to his prime? If it was possible Edit: like a alternate timeline, if he had learn to force spirit leave his body (similar to pal in.... That 3rd disney movie), take a over a clone in its prime before mustafar

[@ShOoToSpill]

I don't think they had the technology to re-attach limbs or they would have done that. They would have used the same tech on the clones during the clone war. But that would be a good idea.

[@TheNotoriousMrDee]

"Can I get a suit made with rubber or something? I want to shock people with lightning." "You wa... No, dude. I do the lightning. You choke people, that's where you live. Nothing wrong with a good choking." *sigh* "Yes, my master..."

[@graemerushing2833]

I wish there was a "Star Wars, What if" like marvel universe did. I would love to see this animated. Great story.

[@lordcaedus8465]

It does exist. It's called "Star Wars Infinities".

[@KingCodd]

what if sidious told the republic he was a sith when he was elected it isnt illegal to be a sith and i think it would be very interesting

[@FilipsAdventures-XX]

I find it interesting that in this path Vader kills everything that was Anakin's including his children without knowing it. Now I do believe that he would eventually be overthrown, perhaps by another chosen one(maybe this timeline's Ezra, Sabine, Finn, Rey, Grogu) or by Anakin resurfacing through his Dreams !

[@wishingstar8701]

Awww I was hoping for a more brutal ending. Might I suggest the Idea? Darth vader after beating the emperor, drags him through the flames of the explosion, chops all four of his limbs off and places a just barely surviving burnt sidious into a suit as fail as his was, so he could feel the same torment.

[@YamiRondo2]

This was definitely different him using grievous cybernetics 🔥🔥🔥

[@marcoeisenberg4337]

Great story. Here is my twist to it: Vader clones himself functioning limbs instead of robotic parts. Then everything happens as you described, BUT … Obi Wan survives the bombardment, Luke too, but only heavily injured. So Obi Wan can only save his life by replacing Lukes lost limbs with crude robotics and a breathing mask. Obi wan would train Luke, but Luke would be eaten more and more by his hate for his life. At one point they enter the Death Star to save Leia, but conflict between Luke and Obi would pinnacle with Luke killing Obi stating that now he is the master. From then on Luke would support the rebels, but as a dark side protagonist. We see a clash of evil against evil and the main story will be about Luke and Vader redeeming themselves after seeing themselves mirrored in the other. They realize that the whole idea of “bringing order and peace to the galaxy” and some form of galaxy wide dominion (empire, republic, etc. all the same) is the true problem. So in the end they use their combined force powers and the latest biggest badest death star like machine to disrupt the hyperspace in a way that all planets are separated forever and therefore can be happy again.

[@ByGraceAlone2024]

This was a fantastical what if. I love the idea and concept of everything, it truly shows the power Vader had and could have used if he ever thought of rebelling and becoming overpowered

[@macatron69]

That was amazing! I love how he imprisoned Palpatine instead of just killing him. Although, I was kinda hoping that he would allow him to “live forever” by putting him into some kind of defunct droid body to pay him back for all the pain and suffering he had caused Vader.

[@hoffenwurdig1356]

Without any disrespect for this idea, I would like to point out that Palpatine stationed incredibly well-trained and motivated Imperial Royal Guards on Mustafar to monitor everything Vader did, particularly so that they would be ready to kill Vader inside his bacta tank if Palpatine ordered it. Undoubtedly, these guards also sent periodic sign-of-life signals to the Emperor to indicate that Vader had not ambushed and killed them. I also believe that the guards must have had automated transmitters implanted in their bodies, designed to send an alert to Palpatine if they were killed. These individuals would likely learn of the modifications to the suit and inform Palpatine. I am fascinated by the IRG and have tried to study everything I can find about them. I firmly believe they were so competent and skilled at improvisation that even if one of the IRG were to somehow encounter Batman, any one of them would match him in intellect, logic, improvisation, mental resilience, and martial skills. If I could visit the Star Wars universe, one of the things I would most want to do is talk at length with someone from the IRG-though that would never be permitted.

[@Dargorthverse]

This is the only thing I kind of enjoy in "trilogy lore" - fantasies about Vader becoming the absolute beast of a sith he should've been! This radical idea of him using Grievous parts, getting basically rid of his old body, is one of the most interesting I have heard yet.

[@TheMatizyahu]

Interesting story and outcome. I think Vader would still have to use his sword to defeat Sidious. He is still maimed and because his loss of limbs would reduce number of midichlorians and that would affect his ability to use the force to the level of The Ones from Mortis. Shure - his suit augumentation will definetely make him stronger with the force but simply just because he would not need to use the force for helping himself to simply move around.

[@alexwalz4696]

LOVED THIS!! truly wish they'd make something like this into a what if movie

[@eisner916]

This is the type of entertainment that should be made into movies and tv shows

[@trumantoni4057]

If I am a Jedi, I am wear Vesca stell to be perfect protect vs laser sword.

[@jesserapkin2660]

A series of animated shorts would do stories like this much needed justice. Much better than anything we could hope to receive from Disney and Lucas Film as of late.

[@apollyonkatastrefia1586]

I don't believe Owen would ever report Obi-wan. I normally don't watch what ifs because they don't really matter. We have what is so who cares about what could have been but this video was pretty good. I caught a lot of " the rise of Darth Vader" at the beginning but it worked.

[@code0714]

I would like to ask a question,there was a KZbinr that made long what if Star Wars videos (40 minutes,1 hour+) but suddenly his channel was erased,does anyone remember him? Some of the videos were what if Palme was revived,what if Vader survived and joined the rebels,what if a akin and Palme reunited,and others

[@steben7164]

Just woke up and this got uploaded nice

[@thestarwarsgalaxy]

Love to see it

[@JimAirborne25]

Great way to generate more sympathy for Vader and then twist the ending! Good job!

[@koloss7248]

This was a absolutely amazing video, I never really knew that the he had pain in his old suit and this affected his behavior and choices. Absolutely amazing

[@Phil-D83]

Grounding strips in his suits would have addressed the force lighting weakness.

[@Jeczman]

Yesss!!! I loved this fanfic from start to finish, I loved how Sidious was REALLY scared of Anakin, haha I loved how he felt a soup of his own chocolate haha, I think that Vader, with that suit would be improving and maybe in 10 or more years he would be unstoppable and looking for more force abilities, thank you so very much for creating it.

[@npittswarof2]

Looking foward to this. Also I have a what if suggestion… What if Obi wan fell into the lava the lava after cutting Anakin down? Say like the momentum of his swing caused him to slip falling into the lava banks beside Anakin? It’s far fetched but would make an interesting story I think

[@matisyahubenabrham770]

Great story! The problem with it is is that the more flesh you tear away from yourself the less ability you have to call on the force. So if Anakin got rid of his body and just kept his organs like his eyes, his brain and some major organs he would be even weaker than he was before the augments or the new suit

[@dianesinger9729]

Loved Vader ending up as the final Jedi/Sith. Killing everyone but leaving Palpatine alive to see him finally loose

[@flygonkerel781]

inadvertently killed his own kids. The Darkest Timeline

[@MarioWarKing]

This would make a good movie. Like between a New Hope and Empire strikes back before he knew he had children 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@brokenbridge6316]

Nice video. What if Vader became some Evil Sith God with Padme as his Evil Sith Goddess? I know that's impossible. I just wanted to say that in a comment.

[@johnvaladez8976]

I never considered doing this but I had thoughts like this since the 80s.

[@Pebblewhiteface]

One question, his eyes and brain were put into a durasteel body? So his old flesh was discarded and he became even more terminator like with his only flesh being his abdominal organs and his eyes and brain? Surely a loss of tissue to that degree would massively reduce his connection to the force even more than it already was?