What If Every State In America Had Natural Borders? | American Politics

The state borders of the United States are arbitrary, and need to be redrawn. Monsieur Z redraws the borders of the U.S states by accounting for culture, geography, history, economics, religion, politics, and more. Monsieur Z has spoken before about the politics behind why the American state borders should be redrawn, and now maps out what a redrawn America could look like in what the community has called the Balkanization Proclamation.
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[@MonsieurDean]

Help us redesign these state's flags: discord.gg/xGXzsQSF

[@fish_225]

What if the italian goverment start turning people to bread

[@charles8939]

doesnt work

[@JustANervousWreck]

Can you fix your pronunciation of Toledo, there’s two correct pronunciations (Tull-ee-doh and Toh-lay-doh) and yet you pronounced it as Tull-ett-oh

[@jamesriley2594]

Making state capitals for all of them is going to be hard and fun

[@MonsieurDean]

We already did that!

[@Izy5981]

With regard to Huron, I would offer up Manistee as it's capital. We are a growing economy, growing population, and if this were an independent region, much of our manufacturing would return, albiet we do have a solid manufacturing and mining economy

[@Izy5981]

With regard to Huron, I would offer up Manistee as it's capital. We are a growing economy, growing population, and if this were an independent region, much of our manufacturing would return, albiet we do have a solid manufacturing and mining economy

[@chad2522]

@@Izy5981No offense but according to the census your city has a population of 6 thousand. Way too small to even be considered a capital, especially in relation to other big cities close by.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

harrison would be incredibly heated. columbus and indianapolis, two current capitals and both are about the same size. i think it would be dayton tho

[@rostdreadnorramus4936]

I would've named the state of Philadelphia after Chesapeake Bay, to avoid confusion between the state and city.

[@MonsieurDean]

Probably a wise choice.

[@rostdreadnorramus4936]

@@MonsieurDean Plus it avoids the need to change the name of the city to something like "Philadelphia City" which would both increase the length of the name, and cause a bit of trouble when people have to go through and rename everything with Philadelphia on it.

[@Wewwers]

Delaware Valley That's what the Philadelphia metro is called IRL

[@o_the_useless_mapper6]

​@@Wewwersthat's a good idea for a name

[@Wewwers]

@@o_the_useless_mapper6 It was actually the original name we gave it in the draft proposal before Z made the decision to change it to Philadelphia. Still not sure why.

[@jakubpedersen]

RIP to Four Corners, USA. You will be missed.

[@amirsur1596]

should have become its own state

[@jakewillits4678]

That is a terrible thing for my area

[@rudyschwab7709]

It would become a "historical landmark". People will still go and see it and spend their money their.

[@ComradeCardinal]

“There is another” around Baton Rouge.

[@YaBoiBaxter2024]

As someone who despises the square borders of the current states, this is a PITCH PERFECT alternative.

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

Agreed. The new borders are peak aesthetic!

[@nicbahtin4774]

Why ? those stright lines are just there so Americans could identify their states other wise their screwed

[@FelidaeEnjoyer]

The only problem I have with the map is how the black-majority state is split in two, and no bridge in between, That's GOTTA be racist

[@Texan_christian1132]

Texas is too broken up 😤

[@YaBoiBaxter2024]

@@Texan_christian1132 pfp checks out

[@Usepe]

I could see American politics diversifying with such an arrangement, as now many independent individual issues are far more apparent, I could envision four mainstream parties (Right-wing, centre-right, libertarian and center-left) with some other minority parties winning the seats of their respective states (Mormons in Utah or Afro-Americans in Mississippi for example)

[@Texan_christian1132]

Texas is too broken up 😤

[@farwynd2925]

God forget we get some left but not those hippy radicals

[@martinsimington]

@@Texan_christian1132I know my fellow Texan

[@JaKingScomez]

@@martinsimingtonwhat does texas even have going on🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Celeste__ch.]

​@@JaKingScomezy'know that one scene from the matrix?

[@AmirSatt]

send this video to congress

[@MonsieurDean]

Notify your state representative? 🤔

[@exiteiscool]

Congress would probably unfortunately have a hard time passing a bill to radically change the country like this but the people in the government need to know who they are in control over because in some cases they seem like they don’t so sending this to them as an educational thing to learn the demographics of the country would probably change something. Politicians should probably have to pass some sort of test before they get in the office because I wouldn’t be surprised if they couldn’t point to Wyoming on a map

[@RandomYT05_01]

​@@exiteiscool This exactly. Hell, even voters should be required to be able to point to any state and name its capital. Voters need to be educated, lest they elect the wrong people to represent them.

[@beasley1232]

@@RandomYT05_01I think any change in state borders like this will cause absolute chaos. Think of Texas, they are very prideful of their state. Californians have also been historically opposed to giving away territory. Northern California has been trying to break away, the state government will not allow it. Oregon also ain’t letting it’s western territories join Idaho either even tho they want too. A resolution was drafted in Illinois to cut out Chicago but it failed, Illinois won’t give up Chicago. Chicago controls Illinois state politics, without Chicago Illinois would be a conservative state.

[@agentdiamond9211]

​@@RandomYT05_01 opening a can of worms there. Who's gonna decide what constitutes educated enough?

[@dylangtech]

Happy to be a part of this! Was a fun exercise and deep dive into the overlooked peoples and cultures of every state.

[@philiplanz7123]

As a corporate income tax account for a national company, having 80 states with all different tax returns gives me nightmares.

[@Frazier16]

Why is that diffrent than what we have now?

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

​@@Frazier16 30 extra papers to file? And that's the smallest estimate.

[@commisaryarreck3974]

On the bright side, you can demand additional pay

[@augustuscaesar9995]

We can’t assume that all 80 of them would have a state income tax. Some of the new alt-states come from real life states that don’t have a state income tax

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

@Wendeta-hq2cp international companies deal with far far more, 30 extra states with minor differences is no biggie for a compos.

[@dudelehhh]

Do a sequel where you explain which political parties would dominate these states (and federally)

[@MonsieurDean]

I show that toward the end.

[@dudelehhh]

@@MonsieurDean more like the electoral college and house (like how many electoral votes and house reps each state would have, and which party would dominate them)

[@johnphipps4105]

​@@MonsieurDeanIdaho should have been sort of square shaped, western border cascades, southern the owyhee desert, eastern rocky mountains, northern selkirk mountains, besides the whole thing is a cool idea

[@purpledevilr7463]

Hopefully a bunch of new parties to match the more plausible verity. Even if not presidency wise, senate & congress wise.

[@MrKobus-rz4qy]

​@MonsieurDean yeah you should make more videos about this map

[@MartelSays]

The area encompassing the Southern ⅓rd of Illinois should be called Little Egypt, its a historical nickname based on its Cahokian heritage and river culture

[@MonsieurDean]

That name was proposed, so maybe.

[@cartergray9397]

as a Little Egyptian, agreed

[@juanfranciscovillarroelthu6876]

@@MonsieurDean only if the Capital is Cairo. xD

[@shealupkes]

@@juanfranciscovillarroelthu6876 *little cairo

[@FQT_Keller-Ash]

I tried looking into this and I am still confused, how does the Cahokian people connect to Egypt???

[@scrappy9133]

I had lots of fun contributing to this project, I hope as a community we should keep doing things like this. K. KOLVE

[@michaelhofer4548]

This was pretty neat. Looking forward to Part 2. I'd be interested in seeing a deeper dive/analysis of this (eg: a chart showing each state's Economy, Religion and Ethnic breakdown, projected population, and potential Capital/seat of power) Alternately (and speaking as a Canadian) a similar breakdown for Canada could be interesting, if of more a relatively niche interest.

[@Aiden-wg4pu]

That would be very interesting

[@meteoman7958]

@@Aiden-wg4pu I second that.

[@andrejs4984]

It could also include canada and northern mexico being annexed into the us as some of those regions have natural regions within themselves

[@UFOtter]

I find it soothing that the Florida panhandle expands north and such, reminds me of the foregone independent nation of The Republic of West Florida, a sovereign nation illegally annexed and occupied by the US after Spain's selling of Florida, that also flew a brighter color of the Bonnie Blue Flag, which is where the CSA got it from

[@bigjohn5142]

Homie used spears to represent the blacks😭

[@andrewzemotel]

This was such a fun project, and I’m happy to have been a part of it! Part one was great, can’t wait for part two!!

[@hi4931]

At first I hated the idea of it, but after watching it you really convinced me, Especially with the smaller rural states I thought to be redundant. Although I think you need to include to mention major cities in the borders( and points on the map), such as in Carolina and tidewater where the city location is unclear when the the real life borders are removed. I still feel like the state of new michigan and new Ohio could be cut in half and given to surrounding states, they only act as border states to areas that are already similar.

[@BalderOdinson]

Yeah, trying to piece together where these borders run is fairly hard. Usually a jagged line indicates a coast, river, mountain ridge, or some other major geographical feature, but alot of these appear to be jagged just for the sake of not making them straight. I'd love to see some explanations for why the borders are shaped the way they are.

[@jamesgabor9284]

It was so fun to be a part of this project! Love ya Mr Z

[@dominicadrean2160]

What if the great Greek plan( Catherine the Great's of Russia's plan to restore the Byzantine Empire )succeeded

[@GuardianKikko]

I honestly can't believe you used spears as the symbol for the african-americans 💀

[@janahabermann1418]

Sind Ketten besser?

[@GuardianKikko]

@@janahabermann1418 he could have easily used a black map of Africa/er hätte problemlos eine schwarze Karte von Afrika verwenden können

[@coolkangaroo5179]

@@janahabermann1418 HAHAHHAAH Ja absolut, ich stimme dir zu 🤔🤣

[@vvorthabilly]

Found that odd too 😒

[@natenae8635]

Yeah at least they should have done a spear and shield symbol. Like on Kenya’s flag, not just spears by themselves, that’s just wrong.

[@caster863]

By far my most favorite video on this channel.

[@HunterGalvius]

I’m so happy with how this came out, truly beautiful

[@beasley1232]

I would’ve preferred Chicago to just be cook county or Chicago land as someone from Chicago

[@HunterGalvius]

@@beasley1232I live in Chicago, and while I acknowledge it's problems, those areas along the Great Lake would benefit from similar policy, or at the very least not being a part of the other states they would be in, which would create divergent interests. The whole point of the map is to create naturally convergent interests in the states.

[@beasley1232]

@@HunterGalvius ok but Green Bay? Like really? 💀💀 also the suburbs around Milwaukee are pretty conservative compared to the suburbs of Chicago which lean unapologetically liberal. I mean even Green Bay is also pretty conservative compared to most other cities in the USA, Green Bay didn’t vote for Biden by much. Another problem is, Chicago is 31% white, 29.8% Hispanic, 29.0% black/African and about 7% Asian. Chicago does not have a majority religion. Milwaukee on the other hand is abt 75% white, while Green Bay is 81% white. Green Bay is also like 70% Catholic. So what is the basis of this map, is he trying to create cultural, political, and ethnically similar states? If so this map has a lot of problems with it. And this state of Chicago is just one of them. How are u gonna put Chicago in a majority Christian white state when the city itself isn’t Christian or white.

[@Kaqu39]

I do not have any money to throw at your memberships, but i LOVE your videos so i had to subscribe. I hope that your channel grows in the future.

[@MonsieurDean]

Much appreciated, pal!

[@viralchainx9]

I love that you did this, ive been slowly working on this myself and you just saved me so much time and effort lol

[@PixelWolv]

thank you, have beenbeing kept up at night since a trip to the coast on new years thinking about how different the coast is from where i live in the Rogue Valley, and wondered what oregon would look like with fully natural borders, and you are the first person ive found to actually show or talk about it,

[@MemeatorMotivatoroftheMemes]

I can see influences from your book, Mr. Z, dont think you can hide them from me. It would also be interesting to see how this layout would function both in our current political system, and how it would function in a hypothetical American Parliamentary system like was explored in previous episodes.

[@MonsieurDean]

Keep in mind most of these borders were decided upon by conclusions from the community. The similarities to the borders I lay out in my book are because they largely reflected actual regional cultures.

[@lordviperG91765]

@@MonsieurDean you accidentally replied twice

[@jacksonmazuela9036]

As a Kentuckian, gaining Cincinnati at the cost of Appalachia is an absolute win.

[@williammoran4898]

Yep for Appalachia to lose y'all was definitely a win for them

[@Johia_Mapping_2]

As a fellow Kentuckian, I agree. Our state also doesn't look that much different, and is kinda recognizable through the chaos that is the other states.

[@Johia_Mapping_2]

​@@williammoran4898Appalachia losing us makes their economy tank haha

[@williammoran4898]

@@Johia_Mapping_2 sad that's your measure. Fr

[@Toddoss5875]

As an Ohioan, you can have Cincinnati.

[@Noticer333]

This is one of your best videos so far

[@sassycat]

I would be curious to see a more detailed map of these new states.

[@stacyroth1664]

Same! I am having trouble telling from the video which state I would be in, as I live near a border in this new map.

[@Guacamoc]

Your content is unique and I have always enjoyed your videos. Keep doing a great job, I hope to see you take office one day

[@MonsieurDean]

Thank you very much!

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love your content man! Keep up the good work 😊😊😊❤❤❤

[@MonsieurDean]

Will do!

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

@@MonsieurDean awesome

[@raptors11111]

Cool video man. I've been interested in the idea of changing state borders around. Any chance for the next one you could please put some of the major cities on the map? Hard to visualize where major cities are without their usual state shapes lol

[@bugsyseigel7592]

THIS IS PERFECT, PERFECT, EVERY MINUTE DETAIL.

[@nerdsahhgaming4779]

"Honey wake up, a new Monsieur Z just dropped"

[@brromo]

Making "Pennsylvania" the region without cities is the most Pennsylvania thing I can think of. Philly is Philly, Susquehanna has York, Harrisburg, Hershey, & Lancaster, & Allagenia is Pitt; But Pennsylvania proper "Best I can do is William's Port & State College."

[@TheAstilesus]

Scranton. You get an even worse capital.

[@ThePhillyspade]

State College is the obvious capital, the beauty and intelligence there! WE ARE...

[@burn2406]

This was just fantastic. I cant wait for the next video! Great work.

[@Spuggky45]

This is so fascinating! I cant wait for part 2! ❤

[@TheExpertProcrastinator]

overlaying all these new states over the old ones would be sorta fun to see how they all changed

[@Identified001]

Always loved your videos Mr Z

[@MonsieurDean]

The support is appreciated!

[@AndreW-yn7ux]

From a Hoosier in the coal belt region. All the “English” are Scots and Irish. A surprisingly large population of 3rd and 4th generation Scots.

[@Liethen]

As a native of south eastern ohio most of the "English" are Scotch Irish, most of the "Germans" are English, and most of the "Native Americans" are Elizabeth Warren.

[@silliestsususagest3276]

@@Liethen As an English guy, you're all pretty much American dudes!:)

[@Liethen]

@@silliestsususagest3276 Are they American dudes? are they? Do they hold to the sacred truths of Guns, God, and Tax Evasion? Let this be your litmus test.

[@oofoof12814]

Very interesting! Keep it up!

[@MonsieurDean]

Count on it!

[@davidwhitt8149]

It's somewhat difficult to tell for sure but it looks like you've placed my city Raleigh in Virginia but it's at the borders of Tidewater and Carolina. There's a few problems with this. The NC piedmont crescent has been split with the Charlotte, Triad and Triangle in different states. For an area with such a common history, tied economy and shared infrastructure this would never work. A better alternative would be the state of Piedmont based on that geographical region. Tidewater can have everything east of the fall line while the mountains can have their own.

[@MonsieurDean]

Great clarification! Thanks, pal.

[@ducttapeanddreams]

Also, it looks like Hampton Roads has been split between Virginia and Tidewater. Splitting Newport News and Hampton from Southside makes no sense socially, politically, or economically because there is a significant amount of manufacturing in Hampton Roads that all flows together, often related to the military. If it was me I would put the entire Urban Crescent (Hampton Roads, Richmond, and DC metro areas) in Columbia and let that also include the DC/Hampton Roads exurbs. Alternately that rural interior inside the Urban Crescent could be combined with the exurban part of the Eastern Shore (the non-delaware parts basically) for an agricultural/fishing state though that while culturally coherent isn't very sensical geographically since there would be no land connection to the Eastern Shore without going through another state (or any connection at all unless you made a ferry link between like, Salisbury and somewhere like Tappahannock)

[@ronaldpippen8164]

He was wrong about eastern NC anyways.

[@AshleyGravesreal]

Those borders are one of the most beautiful thing I have ever seen...as an european I approve this

[@ssg9offical]

It's horrible.

[@TheZett]

@@ssg9offical It cant get any worse than straight borders and rectangles. There is a reason why the colonial borders in Africa and the Middle East are horrible, and the same reason applies to the US borders too.

[@thegooddoctor2009]

You call yourself European? If you guy were in charge it would be all squares, thus leading to decades of wars.

[@BalderOdinson]

@@TheZett Speaking for NA: We apologize to Europe and its borders. We're sorry we haven't had thousands of wars and political marriages to define our borders. Our bad, we'll go work on that.

[@baronvonjo1929]

Europeans love straight lined borders though. Thats their "gift" to the world

[@AlexTonar]

Hey that’s me! Thanks for everything, this was a fun thing to make with everyone

[@HappyGuy-cn9po]

Ah Mr. Z does it again. Another great vid. Keep up the good work.

[@Auglet]

Glad to have worked on this project and see my structure for Georgia, Atlanta, and Florida come through. Cheers!

[@gsmiro]

The surrounding counties of Metro Atlanta might not want to join the State of Atlanta. I think my county probably would vote to stay with Georgia, rather than joining Atlanta

[@Auglet]

@@gsmiro from what I did I joined majority blue voting counties with Atlanta but the borders on this map are of course a bit redrawn so that might be inaccurate though the same could happen with just the counties I did, nothing can be perfect and this type of thing would only be perfect if everyone in the US had a say on which state they’d want to be in and who would represent them

[@Auglet]

@@plates7245 It’s predominantly republican voting and isn’t considered inside of the Atlanta metropolitan area

[@tjford84]

I'm assuming the GA- Carolina border is the Savannah River?

[@itlw999]

Using spears to represent African Americans is wild lol might as well put up a picture of a drumstick

[@carterbrock7971]

This is really cool! I wish there were an online interactive map where we could see more details and stuff - major cities, population data, universities, etc

[@buckyb234]

Always a sucker for this type of scenario, so I love it! Only thing i wish was talked about was the captial cities for each new state (as well as some of the major cities/urban areas in each state). Still, great video!

[@Absolute_Goober]

As a belligerent texan i have to stand agaist breaking uo texas on principle but i will also admit that practically it makes sense

[@Texan_christian1132]

Texas is too broken up 😤

[@Gonff73]

As a Minnesotan it weird to image on Minneapolis and St. Paul being in different states with the division along the Mississippi. Also, as both cities straddle the river, each would lose significant portions of their area to the other state. Looking forward to part two!

[@MonsieurDean]

They're in the same state, I do believe.

[@Gonff73]

@@MonsieurDean Did the border there veer off of the Mississippi onto the Minnesota River for a bit? The border edge between Superior and whatever the state to the west will be looked enough like the route of the Mississippi up to Lake Itasca that I just assumed. Map not detailed enough to tell I guess, and I'm probably getting too in the weeds with the details. Anyway, fun stuff to consider.

[@MonsieurDean]

Yeah, for certain metro areas based around rivers we typically crossed over the river just a bit, if the land across the river was similar enough.

[@Gonff73]

@@MonsieurDean Makes sense. Thanks for clarification. Good info to consider when looking at some of the other states on the map.

[@LibertyMonk]

​@@MonsieurDeanthat feels *wrong* there are a lot of border straddling cities that exist intentionally to straddle the border. Oh well, Balkanizing isn't supposed to make political sense.

[@theodoricthegoth4027]

This was fantastic. We could only hope

[@digirole60]

This is perfect. Well done! Love it.

[@trentr9762]

its basically turning the USA into its own, bigger version of Europe, always said something like this would help fix a lot of the issues in the states relating to economy and trust. Local representation and smaller nations, or in the case states, tends to work well and this would give people much more say in how their areas are run and hopefully diversify the political climate whilst promoting all sides to work together more then they currently do.

[@HOOSIER42]

As someone (Hoosier) that took part in this project, and an important part of the Midwest Community, this is a great video and I am glad you made this. I have one complaint, the way you said “Hoosier” is incorrect. The way that it is supposed to be pronounced is (Who? Sure) No hate though, it is kind of hard to pronounce.

[@stacyroth1664]

I am having trouble telling where the northern border of Hoosier/southern border of Harrison goes through Indiana; maybe you could help me figure out which state I would be in?

[@HOOSIER42]

⁠@@stacyroth1664well, I’m in the north, but I might be able to help. I looks like Harrison and Hoosier connect near the border of the Wabash River

[@stacyroth1664]

Thank you!

[@ChariTheAlternate]

I was looking for a video like this yesterday

[@tancreddehauteville764]

I'm impressed with this. Great work.

[@rhubarb2301]

For part two, would be really helpful to see population and GDP estimates for each state

[@methyod]

Putting up GDP estimates would severely undermine the political project motivating this video. All of these rural conservative states would be third world hellholes without productive urban centers to support them.

[@billybill1272]

Imagine the absolute chaos that would be the federal government, particularly congress (not that it currently does anything of use for the people anyways). The two party system would immediately collapse as regional political parties would become much more in tune to serve the needs of its constituents. Also, it’d be cool to see this same type of analysis with bigger regions as nation states that have enough in common to be willing to enter into a mini federal union (which honestly I believe is much more likely). Nice vid though.

[@andrejs4984]

With no changes to the system, two party system will inevitably emerge again

[@danielbishop1863]

@@andrejs4984: Yeah, in order to get more than two parties, you need proportional representation.

[@Coldyham]

​@@danielbishop1863not entirely necessary: see the UK which has a first past the post system, but its culturally distinct regions often have their own parties

[@jpd3484]

I think chaos and division is the objective. Clearly such a country could not longer be called The United States of America. A better name might be the fractured States of America or perhaps, surprise surprise, The Confederate States of America

[@jpd3484]

In other words do away with our country. Our greatest enemy countries agree with that sentiment

[@optimisms]

omg I grew up in Columbia MD and was NOT expecting you to name the new state after us :) what a pleasant surprise! I absolutely loved what you did with that region, the whole thing is perfect! No worries about giving Delmarva away to PA - we still have the west coast of the Bay, Baltimore Harbor, Annapolis, and half of the Bay Bridge.

[@EpicManaphyDude]

real shit we don’t need delmarva or the western parts, they’re so different from the rt 1 corridor they definitely fit in better in the areas outside of central md as an aside tho it’s more than likely named after dc, but columbia itself is smack in the middle so idk

[@optimisms]

​@@EpicManaphyDude LOL i forgot that DC stands for District of Columbia; you're probably right but i choose to believe 😌

[@justinwolf7490]

Wow you put a lot of time and effort into this nice job!

[@daynawhitehead7611]

My question would be, how would these new borders affect our Legislative and Executive Branches of government?

[@kggaming792]

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[@OverstuffedDragon]

There would be 60 more senators and about the same amount of representatives. There would be little more skewing of representation in the Senate by land area and significantly less skewing in the house on population levels. On the executive branch, there would probably be less election pandering to the high population states since the population averages of each state are a lot closer. Since there would be a likelyhood of multiple parties rather than just the two, the making of the executive branch being non party held and elected to independent stances could stand a chance of being a reality.

[@jesuslover4436]

@@OverstuffedDragonhow would the house at all be affected since it’s based on population alone and the population stays the same

[@OverstuffedDragon]

@@jesuslover4436 As it is, the population assignment for each representative is not even from state to state. California has 53 total with each one representing about 740k people while montana has 1 that represents 1.1 million people. If the country is divided by 80 states with more equal population levels then alloting 1 representative at California's current 740k per would mean more representatives overall in the house while going with Montana's rate you'd have less.

[@jesuslover4436]

@@OverstuffedDragon oh gotcha I wasn’t thinking thank you!

[@baseballboy4494]

if possible, could you at the end overlay the old American states over the new states. I think I would find that interesting to look at see all the splits.

[@rosscalverley]

Yeah good idea

[@lukeporras1288]

Pause at 0:04

[@anvos658]

Nice to see a more regular formatted video after all the blog ones. Mostly I just see two things here, 80 seems a bit overkill and would have been nice if it had rivers and city dots on the map to make it easier to judge where some of the lines are compared to IRL.

[@RobotWithHumanHair.]

Amazing I cannot wait for the next vid

[@nigelflood7074]

Would love to read a book based on this new United States

[@AlexTonar]

Imagine if there were new state flags as well :)

[@MonsieurDean]

@@AlexTonar That comes next.

[@AlexTonar]

@@MonsieurDean no way 😂🥹

[@internalsnowman1]

Political consequences of this map as a separate vid?

[@MonsieurDean]

Sure!

[@internalsnowman1]

@@MonsieurDean W

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

​@@MonsieurDean Awesome!

[@isolatedirectorofficial]

This is awesome!!

[@theanathema3062]

I was here for this, let’s gooooooo

[@Shatterwings060]

80 states... How is anything going to be done in the senate with 29 "new" states? Not to mention the removal of previous seats/chairs long held in tradition?

[@ray495903314]

You could reduce the number of senators to 1 per state, or you could make it so removed each state gets one vote. I don't mind more gridlock though.

[@History-And-Stuff]

I cannot describe how happy I am I was part of this

[@unwantedmacguffin5611]

I'm very excited for the next video. I'm interested in seeing how you incorporate the many native american reservations in the western states.

[@aaronbrehm624]

This is really cool! One big issue I see with this is there would be a pretty big lack of options when it came to deciding where to attend college. Especially for those who wouldn’t be able to afford out of state tuition.

[@Kapsyloffer]

How would this affect the elections?

[@MonsieurDean]

Well the senate is definitely going to see greater domination by republicans (assuming the party system isn't changed by this) given that there are now more Republican states, but the Democrats would overwhelmingly hold the House of Representatives given their states are now more consolidated around their values, and still have those large populations. In the presidential election, you're going to see fairer outcomes, as electoral votes will be more fairly distributed to various differing populations, instead of having them locked up in states that always go blue or red despite only 51% of the population voting that way. States will have fewer electoral votes individually, but those votes will (in most cases) have supermajority support behind them, a state will vote for the candidate a vast majority of the population actually supports.

[@simonunella6330]

​@@MonsieurDean do an alternate scenario what if Austria Hungary was populated by elves and orcs

[@TheRealFernancoTachanka]

​@@simonunella6330yesh

[@Liethen]

@@simonunella6330 Austrian Elves and Hungarian Orcs? or did I get it backwards?

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

Aelveria-Orcary

[@GMSquared]

You know, I know I don't agree with some of your politics, but this is an amazing video. This would do so many great things for politisphere as well.

[@MonsieurDean]

Well I'm glad you enjoyed it, pal.

[@GMSquared]

@@MonsieurDean Do people write fan fic based on your content? I would love to see what people think could cause this "Balkanization Proclamation" to occur. Maybe some figures that would show up, the conflicts that arise as a result. I know your videos are more of the big picture, instead of this typed of personal anecdotal stories within the big picture.

[@AlexTonar]

@@GMSquaredyou can make one!

[@GMSquared]

@@AlexTonar Well, I guess what I would do is make the last few years about 3% worse in terms of the pandemic, economic, and political missteps. I'd have the the overall state of global issues be about 3% worse. In this fanfiction, I'd provide just enough plausibility within the text to show that division is reaching a boiling point by now, seeing a scenario that by 2035, the states were being pushed so heavily in separate directions, that when a vote was put to make DC and Puerto Rico states, that a new insurrection occurred that was quelled, but it was coordinated, and instead of just one political affiliation, there was insurrectionists that also ended up fighting counter insurrectionist vigilantes, which drove home how divided things were and made for a much more broad re-defining of the map. For which was the only way that bipartisan approaches were made. If I were to go through with this, I'd probably make it from the perspective of simple officer within an non-profit charity that just wanted to help the poor, became disillusioned from all political parties and just didn't trust anybody. They'd probably live in a metropolitan area, they would deal with the negatives from both sides prior to Balkanization Proclamation, and then experience the effect of the proclamation passing and how the community started to rally around them to be a secretary of the new State's Governor.

[@Iamhere-cr5vu]

The amount of work put into this

[@Aceman52]

This is a very interesting division of the country. These new states would make for a new challenging political and economic situation. Great job

[@isaaclemmen6500]

I like the fact that all of the great lakes (except ontario for obvious reasons) have states named after them.

[@Aiden-wg4pu]

but ontario the state would be really funny, like imagine an american and canadian arguing over whether ontario is better than ontario?

[@FlatlandsSurvivor]

Given the map, that would probably be Seneca that would be the state of Ontario? Considering that Ontario Canada is bigger than Texas it would be a quite lopsided rivalry

[@graysonbaur9366]

Would be interested to hear how your group decided to draw lines weighted by cultural groups, vs watershed boundaries, vs rivers etc. Here in the NC Piedmont as in the Appalachians, I would tend to draw lines along drainage divides (watersheds) so that the folks in each administrative group shared a common watershed at least (perhaps you have done this to some degree). Also, I might suggest you pay more tribute to the original inhabitants of the land and their ancestors in determining boundaries and naming “states.” I might prefer to live in “Occaneechia” (or some such) rather than “Virginia”, which refers to an overseas queen.

[@IvyANguyen]

That reminds me about my own area. Philadelphia before it was such was once inhabited by many Lenni Lenape people, right? Maybe our new state name should use their tribe name.

[@Horse_of_Babylon]

*I AM SO HAPPY THIS VIDEO EXISTS!!*

[@battlepans1927]

I love this so much! My state definitely isn’t very prominent here but it’s exciting

[@jacksonwallace9116]

I imagine this might shake some things up, if it were to occur (which it won’t, sadly)… I cannot imagine a system of states arranged as such functioning in our current system of government. In a parliamentary system, this would most certainly be ideal

[@ArcticWolf26]

Also patriotic people that like their current state would definitely not agree with this like how they gave marylands main city's to DC which is socially differnt to us on the coast also I'm pretty sure we are differnt politically also

[@lukeporras1288]

How would it be more ideal in a parliamentary system?

[@brianfox771]

@@lukeporras1288 It depends on how it is set up, but usually in that type of system the parliament's seats are filled based on a national vote and divvied out in proportion to percentages of political party votes received. So theoretically the vote values of urban areas wouldn't be diminished in favor of low population rural areas like they are now. Regional politics would stay regional, and have less bearing on national politics. If we change to this map and kept our current federal system with no adjustments, then the government would turn extremely conservative where 20-30% of the population determined the composition of the government at the expense of the 70-80%. Right now it is about 40% deciding for about 60%. When the US constitution was ratified the bulk of the population was rural; even the biggest cities were under 100k, so balancing out small pop states and large pop states made sense. However, with the large waves of urbanization in the late 19th century and throughout the 20th century, no adjustments were made to correct for this demographic discrepancy politically so things have become more skewed and imbalanced and time goes on. The overwhelming majority of Americans live in urbanized areas, but low pop rural areas often call the shots politically, particularly in the Senate. For example, there are way more people in a few counties in the NYC area, than there are in a number of states combined; and yet rural folks in those states have around 12 Senators representing them with the folks in NYC have arguably less than 2, since they have to share them with the rest of New York state.

[@msmith1890]

How would this version of America work politically and would the economy be damaged?

[@MonsieurDean]

It would literally work the same, but with new state borders. Each state's government would be more representative of its population.

[@CantoniaCustoms]

It wont.

[@FlatlandsSurvivor]

Economically, US state borders are very soft. Moving state lines has relatively little effect on the economy. While any broad change of this nature would cause chaos, I don't think redrawn state borders and more senators would fundamentally alter how US politics work. But also, the Southeast is the region with the largest increase in state count, while the north east kept a similar count. It's easy to imagine this difference would dramatically alter the political maneuvering that occured before the civil war. My best guess is that it would be delayed a little longer, but still occur and still end more or less the same way.

[@aspenshades]

this is amazing!

[@meteoman7958]

Great work!

[@BurnedByTheFurnace3]

Very cool. I’d love to see the same done for Canada

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

We'd have large swaths of deadland then.

[@BurnedByTheFurnace3]

@@Wendeta-hq2cp don't we already?

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

@@BurnedByTheFurnace3 I mean in terms of new borders. You'd have a few small states and then one big state that has literally no population. Or perhaps have pockets of deadland in between population centers, I'm not quite sure which.

[@BurnedByTheFurnace3]

@@Wendeta-hq2cp well the division wouldn't be identical, as we'd still have the northern territories. Alberta would likely remain the same ,but I could see Ontario being split demographically into 3 separate provinces, with the space between Albert and Ontario being divided between the north and south

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

@@BurnedByTheFurnace3 Interesting.

[@HSCrimson]

You're going straight to jail for this. As a wisconsinite, this is cursed and I will never accept any change that puts me in the same state as chicagoans or other people from illinois

[@urboyjaden]

As a fellow Wisconsinite I agree what the actual fuck this bastard thinking

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

Basketball Americans

[@MonsieurDean]

You vill be happy.

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

What if the basketball Americans were deported to liberia, South Africa, Canada etc?

[@HSCrimson]

@@constantinethecataphract5949 That makes absolutely no difference, I come from a part of Wisco that's relatively diverse, and I have no problem with any races. I just don't like anyone from Chicago, and the Chicago sports teams suck

[@Jcjc-lr4bf]

This is insane!! Awesome.

[@Geo_Seph]

What an excellent video/idea.

[@matthiuskoenig3378]

19:30 the nations of the East: New England, New Ireland, New Italy, New Hibernia, *New Germany*, New Ulster, New Britian, New Africa, New Königsburg, New Cuba. Makes me think, what if there was an aditonal administrative level between state and federal, like I believe Poland has. With smaller states like this it would be more interesting than irl.

[@pokemonstar4759]

I would have loved an inclusion of the possible capitals for some of the states where it is less obvious or there are multiple big cities that could be candidates

[@realbaron5714]

We need a part two of this, it's interesting this map.

[@awedelen1]

Very interesting concept.

[@ebenjvanrensburg1421]

Wow! really interesting, but I just wish I could see the flags of some of these new states.

[@PraiseTheCabbage]

Northwestern Connecticut is quite rural and conservative; it has more in common with the state of Albany than it does NYC or even Long Island.

[@Azumoku]

always dreamt of this vídeo coming out

[@Grant_from_Ghost_opss]

I love this video and everyone watching sub to this man❤❤

[@rennoc7177]

Balkans: "Who are you????" This alternate usa: "i'm you but bigger"

[@jakec4898]

What would be the capitals and populations of all these new states?

[@MonsieurDean]

We'll have all those details ready for part two!

[@jacob4448]

I think this is so cool! I was thinking that maybe you could group some of these together, like the colored regions as states and then the regions proposed here as provinces.