What if France kept Algeria?

[@Videntis.History]

I do not support the French colonization of Algeria, this is just a video for enjoyment purposes. If you want the maps and resources from the video, support me on Patreon: patreon.com/VidentisHistory

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Thanks For this! Keep up the good work ❤❤❤

[@ash_11117]

I don't support you

[@JTL1776]

@Videntis, can you do a 3 part Alternate history. 1, What if America actually settled and colonized the territories gained from the Spanish American War. Particularly Cuba and Philippines. 2, What if the British Imperial Federation was successful and English speaking commonwealth had a similar economic relationship as the French in this scenario. 3, This France is keeping an Algeria scenario.

[@Kidd-In-Charge]

There’s some ENORMOUS glazing of France here. “Yeah, they just made all of west Africa atheist peacefully and also aren’t racist against west african immigrant workers in this timeline”

[@longiusaescius2537]

@Kidd-In-Charge Why should they love a foreign yoke?

[@Gamey48]

Least Francophile Videntis video.

[@Um_Tuga_qualquer]

I'm waiting for "what if Portugal keeps its colonies "

[@sleepycatz101]

That's a cool one

[@ocavaleiroteutonico]

Todos nós lusitanos queremos este vídeo

[@Videntis.History]

if you want to help me, I would love to make that a video

[@user-chumbuck3t]

I fully support this, btw any Spanish videos?

[@cedricl.marquard6273]

That would be a very cool video.

[@JTL1776]

It's about time this ALT HIST is made. Algeria was governed not as a colony but as a of France and had a major French population.

[@taner873]

they also committed atrocities to the non french population which far outweighed the french population living in algeria

[@electricangel4488]

​@@taner873 eum how can you compare the consept of "crimes one a population" too "the amound of a population"? I seriously dont understand

[@taner873]

@@electricangel4488 i seriously don’t understand your comment in the slightest

[@electricangel4488]

@@taner873 oke so how are atrocities on the algerians (which i get are bad),,, like.... related too there being french people there?

[@MohammedAli-hl4mr]

@@electricangel4488 I think he's trying to say that the scale of the atrocities against the natives does more to delegitimise French rule there than the presence of French settlers does to legitimise French rule in Algeria

[@RedouaneRebat]

Fun fact: The reason De Gaulle gave independence to Algeria despite the military failure of the FLN is because he feared if France kept Algeria, millions of Algerians would move to mainland France and replace the locals with their higher birthrates and ruin the place. Plenty of quotes from De Gaulle shows this, in one of them he even says the greatest service he did to France was to rid it of French Algeria, which he calls "a cancer that was going to be the end of us". Of course the hilarous thing is that what he feared happened regardless.

[@Prussian_man]

yeah buddy millions of algerians totally moved to the French mainland.

[@TheRatOnFire_]

@@Prussian_man 1.6 million to be precise.

[@The_whales]

Charles De Gaulle was foreshadowing over 50 years in advance?

[@Prussian_man]

@@TheRatOnFire_ one 🤓 two your promoting a racist talking point so stfu

[@AlessioGiandomenicoMameli]

@The_whales This is what great statesmen must be able to do: they have to imagine what the future will be like at least in the span of 50 years. 😏

[@TheWinter-h9n]

14:10 is when the dementia kicked in

[@TheManInBlueFlames]

No way…I suggested this! I can’t believe you actually this into a video!

[@Furball_clips]

Videntis deserves 1M subscribers for the work he is putting out

[@erangon66bakirleo60]

It was fun to work with you videntis, Lele21

[@guilhermebezerra914]

"What if France was integrated inside the HRE?" Would be a cool video.

[@randomguy6152]

as 1 kingdom? they'd dominate the hre or break apart from it

[@abarette_]

@@randomguy6152 no, obviously not as one kingdom. before the reconquest of the royal domain (after the Hundred Years' War) France's hierarchy was rather composite

[@randomguy6152]

@@abarette_ the western portion of the hre that became france was pretty much always the shape it was though I believe youd have to go back to redrawing the treaty of verdun and making francia weaker but then lotharingia would be in a better position and probably wouldnt have fallen. I believe its hard to choose a point where france could possibly be intergrated into the HRE as france was in the perfect position to break away from any power in germany

[@randomguy6152]

I would like to add to this thought, what if the kingdom of West Frankia became the HRE I believe East Frankia/Germany was extremely decentralized at the time, and though Frankia was as well, West Frankia/France seemed more manageable, everyone knows the cursed HRE borders If Lothair of France was instead requested by Pope John XII instead of Otto then we could have seen a far more prestigious France and perhaps legitimized their rule over more of the German lands This still wouldnt be your suggestion of France being part of the whole HRE though

[@zazr83]

THIS

[@rewriting-history]

And then France accepts the Euro and half of Africa uses it! Algeria into the EU lets go!

[@blueguns15000]

yessir!!! algerian euro!!!

[@easyestentertainment3753]

the EU here wouldn't exist, since the European coal and steel community wouldn't form thanks to France having massive amounts of ressources

[@electricangel4488]

O great more immigrants 😑

[@MohammedAli-hl4mr]

@@electricangel4488 well even though you hate us at least you recognise atrocities against us as bad... its something I guess

[@electricangel4488]

@MohammedAli-hl4mr does me not liking immigrants transelate too me hating somebody?

[@peetesmi]

Good story! A consequence of this system is that China doesn't experience the miraculous growth from the real timeline, as Europe doesn't de-industrialize. In this reality, the arab spring come to be very different. As independant nations such as Tunisia, Lybia and Egypt see their system collapse, French Union forces deploy in the name of ensuring safety and avoiding mass population displacements. Government forces are taken down, with the representatives of the previous systems judged and punished harshly should they refuse to collaborate to the nation's salvation efforts made by the French. Any rebel which do not fold into the French intervention is labelled as terrorist and destroyed mercilessly. France present itself as a third party coming to end the cycle of violence of which previous sides were both responsible for. After the French military secure the terrain and guarantee that no organised armed forces may rise, companies with strong ties with the central government arrive and begin investing in infrastructures often underdevelopped by the previous tyrants. Each time, this wave of construction is used to give jobs to the local population and increase their standard of living. These are made lucrative by opening new markets to the industries of the union, and creating new outlets for the manufactured goods of the Union's core territories. In turn, the increased standard of living, safety and sense that justice was enforced promote the ideas and values of France proper, making integration within the Union easier. This model of expansion is repeated each time a dictatorship is shaken by rebellion or massive unrest. Tunisia, Lybia, Egypt and Sudan would fall to it, as well as Rwanda, Kenya, Somalia. The cycle is maintained somewhat stable by offering to every currently incorporated territory the guarantee that the next wave of expansion will benefit them too. However, as Africa began to become too small for the need of expansion, the French Union begin to look toward the Middle East, or South America, two playing fiels that the United States may consider their turf. Thus, as the 2020's come, a different cold war emerge, with America positioning itself as the champion of liberty and freedom against what is dubbed as Neo-Colonialism.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

I'm waiting for "What if Britain kept it's Empire"

[@lunalingo4461]

Hell nah

[@princesslizzie798]

Many people have already made that

[@longiusaescius2537]

Israel has more cannon fodder

[@HugeTrouble]

best world ever.

[@SaadBinAlamgir3345]

UK will be Brownie empire

[@FranciscoPerez-px5us]

Future videos suggestions: What if everything went great for the Byzantine Empire under the rule of Basil the second? What if Japan won the Imjin War against Korea? What if Vlad Dracula Tepes lived longer? What if all the British Isles were conquered by Rome? What if Simón Bolívar became Emperor of La Gran Colombia? What if Argentina won the war againts Britain for the Maldives Isles?

[@MohammedAli-hl4mr]

the first one is a story not a scenario and the last one would change little expect make the British whinge

[@tylerinot965]

Day 29 on what if the Byzantines repelled the arab invasions

[@christianbertvillote3265]

What if the Philippines won the Philippine-American War? What if Anastasia Romanov survived, got exiled to Poland, the Whites won, and became the Tsarina of Russia? (this is heavily based on HOI4 mod Dreams of the White Russian Victory)

[@bulkax303]

Tsaritsa*

[@Isaac.benj1]

I appreciate you making an informative video but the title is quite controversial, as an algerian france wanted to keep algeria after 132 years of colonization, killing more than 5 million people and torturing, raping and committing the most horrendous acts of violence against algerians but it failed dismally algerians fought for a over a century to gain their independence, they also put a lot of pressure on france globally by making many allies, even the US and the UK both supported algeria's independence as algeria was one of the first countries to recognize the USA as a sovereign country, so it wasn't on france's hand to keep algeria, algeria won and gain its independence

[@Videntis.History]

Im not endorsing the French colonization of Algeria but I get where you are coming from

[@TesaLegitimusVonAtti]

It was only diplomatically that Algeria gained its independence, because France was not supported internationally and de Gaulle absolutely wanted to avoid an Islamization of France. Ironically for such a proud people, today France is still Islamized by Algerians who come to immigrate en masse. Because Algeria has not developed anything more, except a quasi dictatorship.

[@inkusquidusquid1673]

@@TesaLegitimusVonAttimeh, not only diplomatically, it was just impossible to hold for a longer time because of the tension there. Also Algeria did achieve a lot of things, looking up at the condition of life of the Arabs and berbers which were purposefully kept very low, after Independence they could finally have access to modern medecine, schooling and free university, infrastructure, no famine and modern housing. It did achieve great things for what it was

[@darkdestroyerza2381]

@@TesaLegitimusVonAtti Algeria is the most well off state in africa, which is especially impressive considering we had the bloodiest independence war on the continent and a civil war less than three decades later. France also aided in the creation of the civil war through its backing of the FLN which they saw as friendly to their interests, which in turn has led to mass algerian migration to france.

[@TesaLegitimusVonAtti]

@@darkdestroyerza2381 The richest country in Africa is South Africa (401 billion) then Nigeria (395 billion), then Egypt (358 billion).

[@ommsterlitz1805]

0:18 no they did not, it was not critical, and they had special treatment including not fighting during the entire winter season, in the same way the american involvement did nothing but stop France from carving out Germany

[@oscarjobe1099]

Another great video bro

[@BrandonUnchained69]

I like how De Gaulle is on the thumbnail but he dies offscreen

[@emilianohermosilla3996]

What about an Anglosphere video? That would be quite cool 😁

[@radored7750]

Great video

[@Mustard_Mann]

What if Japan became christian?

[@samtheman4931]

He did that video alreadyn

[@NoelSamGeorge]

Suggestions: What If Indian National Army Liberated Indian Subcontinent and what If Hindu-German Conspiracy successful in India An small request from an person who often see your videos ❤❤❤

[@TheHatersarebad]

What if the British Empire survived? British Imperial Federation is a good video?

[@ghost-vl1qx]

I am Algerian , and I tell to recheck ur saureces about Algeria post independence bec they very wrong , or U just checking western saureces

[@shinosukedoomsday9096]

Man give us the part 3 for Alexander's conquest and love your videos man

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

Can you do a what If North Africa remain Christian. Like when the Abbasid’s take over from the umayyads a Christian kingdom revolts in Tunisia.

[@mazaluo]

😂😂😂

[@siyacer]

they would speak African romance

[@TheManInBlueFlames]

I think Darlan would have kept mild anti-semetic laws or there would have at least been some anti-Semitic feeling in Darlan’s new lands in the late 1900s. Darlan would support Muslim causes in the late 50s and early 60s. At first, he’d be pro-American at the start of the Cold War but then drift away. He’d support Nassar initially but then fall out with him in the next decade. Many things would be delayed or not happen at all. Darlan would be anti-interventionist and use the other nations to do his bidding. America would fight the Vietnam war earlier. I think Darlan would promote a more patriotic, Christian state, rather than a secular or atheist one.

[@Marcus-nn6js]

15:15 This is as blessed of a world as your Crusade and Roman Britain videos!

[@HedgehogHQ]

Definitely be using this scenario for one of my alt hist scenarios! Good job! I think it’d be realistic

[@Videntis.History]

Go for it!

[@HedgehogHQ]

@ it’s part of my world where Confederates won the Civil War

[@user-kaiser678]

Hi, I really enjoyed the video and also "in a day" do what if the british empire survived with some colonies in africa

[@313Nadir]

"de Gaulle got tired and recognized algerian independence" yeah clearly you haven't done your research. changing who the US recognizes during world war 2 does not change the political reality in france itself as de Gaulle was wildly popular and anybody who had anything to do with vichy france was abhorred. and even the wildly popular de Gaulle loses power in the 1950's and is only brought back in an emergency state as the algerian war brought down the 4th republic. This is a truly wild oversimplification and outright dismissal of a whole people's motivations and struggle, the FLN wasn't born out of thin air it came out of decades of political activism and their struggle wasn't only with arms but with diplomacy by earning support for the algerian cause around the world. you also overestimate how much french people felt any connection with a far away land they got no benefit from, the most ardent defenders of the colonies were the colons themselves who were the primary beneficiaries. but even if you want to dismiss what you consider to be some random islamic revolt, even the US did not want the european powers to keep their colonies no matter who was at the head of those powers, if it was "their man" in power then all the more influence they would have had to clear france out of africa so they could have their own influence there. there's so many things wrong with this take i would never have enough time to list each way you are wrong

[@Videntis.History]

Ok thanks for the fair comment. I’m new to the whole topic so do you have any books you recommend reading so I can educate myself better? 🙏

[@zazr83]

Great video, my friend, but I'll just point out that in reality, Gabon voted to become a department but got rejected as it was said to be an unworthy and costly region. So, then I guess that it would've been accepted in such timeline.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Suggestion: What if Napoleon II lived? You always make My day ❤❤❤

[@justagreekhistorian]

The good endin- I mean... great video!! Keep it up (To clarify, this scenario is NOT based! Secular France bad)

[@AmericanImperium2112]

DEUS VULT! Reform the Kingdom of the Franks! 🫡✊🏻

[@magnusgamer1816]

Yes, I absolutely despised the Secularism pushed by this France.

[@tsukiche5939]

I wish I could watch the video but KZbin decided to put on an automated audio translation and the tracks tab doesn't show.

[@Zeelandian_Man]

Can you please make a video on if Portugal kept some of it's colonies? Smaller colonies easier to maintain control of and integrate such as Guinea-Bissau, Cape Verde, Sao Tome, and Timor-Leste?

[@sahilhossain8204]

Lore of What if France kept Algeria? Momentum 100

[@felipelima3626]

Good 😃 😃 😃 The crusades part 3, the video reached the number of likes.

[@Martinek0101]

Thanks for czech translate. Do you want czech audio recording?

[@ChaitanyaSharma-w5f]

Nice video, sir. Video suggestion, what if everything went perfect for Austrian Empire.

[@alexcovey1200]

Please do one where britain keeps at least some of its empire

[@ommsterlitz1805]

You don't talk about who was financing and more importantly arming the Algerian FLN, the USA created many groups and gave them everything they needed to destroy France presence in Algeria

[@the19thcentury81]

Kennedy was very naive to support the FLN despite what happened at Philippeville. The US thought they could create a democratic regime out of the FLN! Irwin Wall's book is a must read of how the US fucked over France in North Africa. It did the same thing in Indochina. Only led to intolerant communists and Islamic extremists.

[@djidji5127]

@@the19thcentury81 l’Algérie n’est pas un pays islamique

[@anteversus8471]

Première nouvelle, ce sont les Algériens émigrés en France qui ont cotisé au FLN pour acheter des armes, jamais les USA n'ont donné quoi que ce soit en argent et en armes aux combattants algériens

[@knackiechan4011]

@@anteversus8471 SI, apparemment la CIA aidé le FLN depuis le Maroc. Moi aussi j'y croyais pas mais c'est vrai

[@Okos-anim]

776 views in 29 minutes? Yeah, bro actually did kinda fall off, I guess these types of comments aren't always just troll comments

[@heitorfontenele2041]

Com licença você teria outros canais que também estão cientes da atualização de dublagem no KZbin gostaria de acompanhar

[@Nikolaosidis]

what if france revived byzantium

[@dragonfire3727]

I doubt it, in this scenario, i think the Singaporean scenario would happen or something similar, because of demographic fears since there would be no visa restrictions to go to metropolitan france, it's likely france would kick them out in some way.

[@One.More.Time-]

What if Britain remained a 3rd power in the cold war

[@Kad.d]

just an hour ago i searched the title of this video

[@Lil_Sammy1]

You should do what if Britain kept some of its empire

[@magnusgamer1816]

Hey Videntis, would you ever be interested in doing any video on possible scenarios for Brazil?

[@mariadaconceicaorochaalvar3423]

If the Portuguese story was perfect? day 5❤

[@Ethnogoblin]

My grandfather whould have been promoted, thats all i know

[@AsbestosToothbrush]

9:12 democratic south my ass, south Vietnam was known to be a brutal dictatorship.

[@Fatah.bba34]

Pauvres France et vive l'Algérie c'est le futur et la petite France c'est le passé. ✌️🇩🇿🌹

[@Desmuu]

What if Novgorod united Russia?

[@Jesus_is_KIng-I]

Rhaaaaaa 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🦅🇫🇷🦅🦅🇫🇷🦅🇫🇷🦅🦅🇫🇷🦅✝️

[@MahaFrikha-bn3dr]

more like ⚛️ xd

[@Xjisjszjke]

You claim humanity and human rights, but at the first turn your true nature is revealed.

[@MAN-MILK]

France's demographics wouldn't be any different than they are in OT and thats probably the saddest thing about OT

[@JerboGod]

They'd be even worse...

[@a3cools115]

France would be a more multiracial nation which is a good thing, don't know why you alt-righters think diversity is bad?!

[@Videntis.History]

More ethnically diverse here but more culturally homogeneous

[@arthurbriand2175]

Interesting scenario. I wonder if this France is somewhat politically Europe's South Korea.

[@undead9999]

so this is unironically Africa: the Blessed Ending?

[@Libanoni974]

Oui :)

[@TheHatersarebad]

What if the Portuguese Monarchy wasn’t overthrown?

[@mohamedrafik2237]

Did you really call FLN terrorists ?

[@siyacer]

yup

[@mohamedrafik2237]

@siyacer that's like calling free France terrorists

[@Twasforthevine]

​@@mohamedrafik2237 the French resistance never put bombs in a bar that was frequented by mostly women and children.

[@algerian_ex_christian]

@@Twasforthevine based fln

[@Twasforthevine]

@@algerian_ex_christian you're 13 and it shows lol.

[@AmariDaniel-h2n]

When the brits colonized countries it was mostly about trade and business they stole yes but they were not that atrocious. France on the other hand committed massive genocides in algeria, mali, niger, vitenam

[@tibsky1396]

Only against those who resisted, otherwise no interest to be so atrocious. In other way, for centuries, the Pirates of Algiers kidnapped Europeans and made them slaves. The French have also stopped this ignominy.

[@Ethnogoblin]

Because France was more about assimilation then making profit they were lossing money on their colonys

[@tibsky1396]

@@Ethnogoblin Left-Wing France wanted to a civilizing mission in external policies. The Right-Wing cared more about internal policies of the country, or the revanchism against Germany later.

[@Rockybeautifulbird]

It's a shame that France has left Africa 😢

[@herbertsiegl7762]

What if Rome kept his colonies? 😮

[@Dziri5462]

Algeria won against France and Europe, which supported it, except for Næzi Germany💚, which supported Algeria before the revolution

[@Xjisjszjke]

What if Germany remained in France? Algeria was liberated by force and the determination of its children who love their country to the core. Algeria has never wronged another country or another party, so its history is more honorable than all the hypocrites.

[@matrice0-0-07]

Imao

[@lmpious]

what if napoleon didn’t take a shit during his conquests?

[@OscarVanloan]

My worst nightmare, strong France

[@kjellduteweert9262]

What if the Netherland kept it's east indische colonies.

[@odioschiavo2387]

Garder l'Algérie !!!!. C'était le cercueil ou la valise

[@ikanbiru4369]

France wet dream goes wild

[@nicholash.449]

enjoyed the video but at 14:11-14:19 you repeat the same line.

[@Ethnogoblin]

The repeat is the best part

[@abarette_]

awh hell nah

[@wegdhass5587]

What if North Macedonia created an empire…

[@kandathepanda]

2 views in 36 seconds.Bro fell off

[@Tyler-n5u]

372 views in 14 minutes bro definitely fell off

[@Aymeloup_levrai]

yo sagoner

[@GcubePlayer8]

14:09 lol

[@nadri3335]

im sad that Spain and Italy didnt get to have their expansion in NA, they had a very solid opportunity to do that, specially Spain with the liberation of Morocco they coulve have conquer them and assimilated them with Franco.

[@inkusquidusquid1673]

So you’re sad that Spain and Italy couldn’t conduct forced assimilations and acculturation of native people of North Africa ? Yeah I don’t need to k word what is wrong with you I already do

[@nadri3335]

@@inkusquidusquid1673 bro im talking about this specifical scenario, it is just map painting, and probably Spain and Italy would assimilate them as Spain did in Americas, Spain had with Franco a legal system in which the africans in guinea ecuatorial couldnt be mistreated, they had the same protection as a minor had, but with adult privililegies. So we can presume the north africans in morocco could have the same protection, and not live under the Shäria law which made all of the women suffer there. Spain was one of the countries who treated the best their overseas territories, no other country on earth was as polite as them.

[@siyacer]

​@@inkusquidusquid1673you're really annoying

[@vyktorehon5995]

​@@nadri3335Honestly Libya would likely become something akin to an Italian greater homeland, like Canada , it would likely become a majority white Italian country due to how few people live in Libya and could even be a part of modern italy

[@dragonfire3727]

​​​​​@@inkusquidusquid1673North African natives were already assimilated multiple times, i don't see why you painted it like it's the first time, berbers already lost their majority at that time.

[@kamskamsa7608]

Et si ma grand-mère en avait ça sera pas ma grand-mère avec les si on coupe du bois l Algérie n à jamais été française c était une illusion française l Algérie n à jamais cessé d être algérienne

[@alaskantzar9457]

Gabon should really be the country that votes for integration as it was the only one to try to do so in reality

[@erangon66bakirleo60]

No it was Senegal not gabon

[@alaskantzar9457]

@erangon66bakirleo60 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Gabonese_constitutional_referendum

[@PizzaChess69]

I feel like my comment is going to get deleted again anyway so why even bother...

[@siyacer]

good ending

[@a3cools115]

horrible ending.

[@siyacer]

​@@a3cools115lol

[@karimbaziz6774]

WHY LORD

[@nadubenha5674]

What if? Like they had the choice. There is no "what if" in that story. France lost the war and got out. It's a mistake to believe that France could have stayed. France lies when they they say they won militarily and lost politically. They lost both.They lost just like the US lost in Vietnam.

[@matrice0-0-07]

Nah we won. The FLN leaders were cannibalizing themselfs and lost all fighting power. Also they were millions of europeans settlers unlike vietnam

[@djidji5127]

🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿

[@brazil853]

I farted

[@Archangel657]

1:15 gee, sounds like decolonization was a bad idea.

[@canttouchme478]

third

[@heitorfontenele2041]

🦊🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🦊

[@pewpew167]

Worst video yet it involved French people succeeding.

[@djidji5127]

🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿