What if Mexico attacked the USA in 1917

[@Italian_Mapper]

Guys remember to not take the army sizes as 100% historically accurate

[@BeningignW]

Is this the thing you have been working on?

[@Italian_Mapper]

nah

[@BeningignW]

@@Italian_Mapper ah

[@Hamstorian]

Do You know What the Song was during 'The Patriotic War' ?

[@Italian_Mapper]

Check description

[@Zrck33]

Then… a young veteran called Adolfo Hernández who wanted to be a painter, started into mexican politics

[@dylanhoeltzel]

WAIT A MINUTE

[@Iblade777]

SALUDEN ADOLFO¡

[@charmyzard]

I mean, Salvador Abrascal and the synarchists exist...

[@shreddedbulgariamapperofficial]

oh no 😳😳

[@thecircle_iseverywhere]

wait hol up ☠️

[@AustroHungarianEmpire1867]

Mexico was literally in a civil war. The north of the country has suffered greatly, and it ended in 1919. In conclusion, the Mexican army wouldn't have been able to attack the US if it wanted to.

[@LePineconeMan]

W pfp

[@TheRepublicOfDixionconderoga]

This video is just for jokes

[@christoferrodriguez7672]

What if Mexico was not in a civil war

[@HimmyNeutron2714]

🤓 Not supposed to be realistic

[@christoferrodriguez7672]

@@HimmyNeutron2714 you sure about that

[@m.a.n4134]

i think the video fails to address some important things, mainly: mexico just got out of a civil war and was in no position to fight, the US would've pushed back the mexicans long before they did in the video, germany was doomed to lose to the british blockade, germany was in no position for an offensive in 1918, as their soldiers were mutineeing in mass, starving, and had just lost the 1918 spring offensive, ottoman forces couldn't push back the british even if they tried, the soviets wouldn't attack germany so soon after they had won their revolution since they didn't endustrialize in mass and would get steamrolled by the germans.

[@senatorarmstrong4168]

They were still in the civil war.

[@m.a.n4134]

@@senatorarmstrong4168 though it was for the most part resolved by then.

[@ShamikKothare]

yea good piont

[@senatorarmstrong4168]

@@m.a.n4134 mostly small fighting scattered across the nation

[@elijahwood4056]

Bro the spring offensive happened in 1918 tho

[@caiusoof]

Yeah realistically, Mexico would just die in 3 weeks at most, due to internal conflict (civil war as it’s aka)

[@Franciko69]

Yeah, Mexico would have more chance if Porfirio Diaz (Mexican dictator and general) was still around

[@AndreEmilianoRuizGeorge]

​@@Franciko69 Yes

[@_1_05_]

@@Franciko69given how advanced Mexico was under his rule, they would’ve definitely had a chance since the civil war wouldn’t have existed and the Mexican people would be united against one common enemy

[@THGuillermo]

Being realistic in those times the Mexican army was very divided, possibly we would not have lasted a week, of course being positive if they had united for the same objective of Recovery of territory and military aid from Germany possibly and we would have lasted longer

[@orrorsaness5942]

Nah I think this scenario was realistic, the us army at the time was weaker than Italy… ITALY!!!

[@GemboGlaggle]

@@orrorsaness5942but mexico was having a civil war from 1910 to 1917, so aid from the central powers was really the only chance they had at keeping America down.

[@Anarcho-Stupidity]

@@orrorsaness5942the US army at the time was small since they didn’t have any major war, the national gourd would’ve hold the Mexican off before the army comes

[@dolphingoreeaccount7395]

And would have rapidly mobilized. Guerilla warfare was also likely. Size also does not equal strength.

[@chilpalendo]

@@orrorsaness5942They werent. USA was 5th or 3rd

[@Gerjaria]

You know what I started wanting MORE ww2 video's I get why you like them that much

[@Vitoreto476]

Wtf México was so powerfull starting the war. Of course the new animation in 4:00 is good. Great video🫵!

[@Italian_Mapper]

Thanks

[@estradadavilafernandojavie8684]

It's not that Mexico is very powerful, it's that the US army was very bad.

[@gloverfox9135]

@@estradadavilafernandojavie8684 that’s not what the Mexicans thought in 1846-1848.

[@estradadavilafernandojavie8684]

@@gloverfox9135 What have I written? my comment does not appear

[@C4ndicy]

It's because US forces were not in mexico-USA border at the time.

[@ilarioLee]

3:50 German Empire: Your Live Will End In 5 Seconds Austria-Hungary Empire: I Don't Feel So Good! OOF! (POSSIBLY DIED)

[@ilarioLee]

4:03 Soviet Union: It's Time To End Kaiserreich German Empire: OH CRAP!

[@dylanhoeltzel]

The thumbnail is wild 💀

[@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd]

The fact that It's a Brazilian indigenous character that started as a symbol of the Brazilian Chan (BRchan) make this even funnier

[@dylanhoeltzel]

@Maps_in_europe1 AYO 💀

[@brubdub.]

@Maps_in_europe1 TF BRO💀💀💀

[@Miguelzito247]

​@@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cdItalians discovered Kuruminha lmao

[@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd]

@@Miguelzito247 That's great, we need to spread the word

[@ilarioLee]

3:52 Austria: I Will Join You! German Empire: Okay!

[@depositthesenutts8899]

The thumbnail of Mexico waifu.. I want it 😤😤😤

[@brubdub.]

wth bro... did you click for ANYTHING else???

[@claudiostudios9002]

She’s actually Brazilian, her name is “Kuruminha”

[@M_sauloteixeira8356MandM]

She is not mexican 💀💀

[@parangaricutirimicuara6692]

Yeah

[@PolPot-v6k]

@@claudiostudios9002 Thanks for the name G

[@chiefofficerhenrywilde6556]

Video idea: What if Romania and Italy both joined at the outbreak of war for a

[@JoboGamezzz]

Like for central powers Would make some sense as Italy was pet of the triple alliance and Romania had secret agreements with them

[@MrsjulieMackay]

Bro Was Down bad for attention (No offence)

[@vlar568noice2]

Best video of the month so far! A sequel would be fantastic

[@Dantalionn]

To be honest, I don't think Germany would have been able to push its trenches in France beyond the historical setting, even without the arrival of American troops. What would possibly happen is a war of exhaustion and both would come to an agreement of a negotiated peace, while the United States punched Mexico... In the end we would still have a German Empire in this timeline, practically a cold war in Europe between France/UK against Germany.

[@bocci103]

still some austrian dude will blow everything

[@ilarioLee]

0:58 German Empire: I Gained Puppets Of The Eastern Empires Of Europe RSFSR: thanks!

[@yason1708]

It was perfect, until 4:04.

[@jirikkulisek7906]

why do you think that the video after that time wasn´t good?

[@pans7761]

@@jirikkulisek7906because the red army would of collapsed easily, the Russians didn’t have the industry against the central powers

[@sushiiravu]

If the soviets couldn't take Poland in otl, how would they be able to take an emboldened post-war Germany?

[@Jesus-ju3yy]

No puedo creer que esté canal dibujo mejor a una mexicana que los de Disney (viva 🇲🇽 16 de septiembre)

[@theromanmapper]

He made another WW2 video using poor Mexico, what a shame... But still an amazing work!

[@theromanmapper]

Also Central Powers were too soft whit Italy in this timeline after WW1

[@Italian_Mapper]

Blud didn't expect ww2 here

[@theromanmapper]

@@Italian_Mapper I didn't

[@TNDylan.]

Mexico couldn't of possibly pushed that far into the United States with the total disrepair their army was in in 1917, also they wouldn't of been able to hold onto the land that long either.

[@HayderH709]

I liked that you add hoi4 effects 😁😁😁

[@unknown12367]

Me at 1923: GREECE JOIN THE FUCKING REEEEED

[@Byzantine_Vengance]

Thumbnail sauce?

[@Banana_behind_the_slaughter]

Kuruminha I think

[@pokemon9573]

Probably the best alt. history map video I've seen in a while.

[@ilarioLee]

3:59 Hungary: Can I Help? German Empire: Okay!

[@Agamingperson]

Guys, maybe mexico defeated the rebellions and cartels and stuff in the mexican civil war early and got to build up its army or smth

[@m.j.vazquez4720]

thats kinda what happand in france lots of fighting meant there was a lot of armed men that when united formed a very large army

[@UwU-xk5cx]

As a mexican, realistically at that point in time what would have happened is the moment Carranza declared war, basically any other of the other like 10 caudillos would have asked the US for support and taken power, then the anti american caudillos would have moved their armies to reignite the civil war again and it would have all devolved into full blown civil war for like the 12th time that century That aside I like the video, it's not one of those "then mexico joined and the central powers ended up marching on washington somehow"

[@oseandepartmentofnarcotics]

No way the USA just annexes the northern part of Baja California. They would've taken it all

[@RegentOfGreece]

Fantastic work, my friend! Really good job. ^_^ If I may ask a couple questions, what are the general Ideologies of each faction during and after ww2? Like, the West Allies are Democratic, and the Germans are Imperialist? Also, how come France was on Germany's side? Did they go through an Authoritarian coup or something? 😅

[@Italian_Mapper]

Well Germany still has the kaiser so they are an absolute monarchy i think, after ww1 Germany placed a German aligned government in France so thats why they are allies

[@RegentOfGreece]

@Italian_Mapper understandable. ^_^ Would you say Britain, Italy and Greece maintained Liberal Democratic governments as well?

[@Italian_Mapper]

Well they would have the government they had in real life so they are still monarchies but i'm not very informed to say which monarchy type

[@RegentOfGreece]

@Italian_Mapper that's perfectly fine, lol. :) Would you possibly be interested in a part two of sorts to explain their positions and ideologies? You don't have to if you don't want to

[@Italian_Mapper]

i cannut bru sorry dawg i only make maps

[@VinoProduction192]

Weird fact: i actually comed looking at that anime girl💀💀💀💀💀

[@brubdub.]

bro

[@VinoProduction192]

@@brubdub. yes

[@SRP_Edits707]

SIMP

[@ishnenigans]

Dude.

[@LePineconeMan]

Excuse me?

[@TemplarGamer56]

Kinda of a cope , this was the height of fun culture where families owned a ton of weapons and in some cases were more armed then some militaries. That invasion would inflict a lot of casualties and eventually would get push out .

[@DasBoot40]

J’adore vos vidéo je pourrais les regarder toute la journée c’est vraiment bien fait !

[@justacat2]

honestly i think mexico would have never pushed that far, maybe it would have advanced slightly then stagnated

[@DreadMaps.]

Yeah this super boosted mexico’s army

[@Banana_behind_the_slaughter]

Insane Mexican waifu in the thumbnail is just downright based

[@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd]

Brazilian Indigenous Mexican Waifu is the best thing I have ever seen in months

[@Banana_behind_the_slaughter]

@@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd Mhmm.

[@Cyxkarlse19-yv3ev]

Yes I love watching all anime girl

[@claudiostudios9002]

Her name is Kuruminha btw

[@Banana_behind_the_slaughter]

@@claudiostudios9002good to know

[@PyzhRav_SGP]

3:37 No territorial gift for Guatemala(((

[@dydunyatv4286]

Fun fact: everbody click video beauce thumnail

[@Бардюр-ч1з]

Удивляет, что всё это произошло из-за Мексики

[@Dheiksans]

Let’s go another Video 👍👍👍

[@IamPyu-v]

This alternate history seems very interesting!

[@-socialcredits]

Plz make a sequel to this it would be interesting if there were 3 alliances in the Cold War

[@albaniapena8214]

If you love your followers do a second part❤❤❤

[@greatlakesfederation2033]

Petition for Italian Mapper to do WW1 Fuhrerreich 👇

[@Italian_Mapper]

Perhaps

[@greatlakesfederation2033]

@@Italian_Mapper wait really

[@Fancy_Schmancy0]

Taco Land is no more.

[@xavierchapa7276]

NOOOOO😭😭😭😭

[@UtahRepublican2024]

When Mexico becomes the perfect diversion...yet Germany still loses.

[@nobeeguyman5877]

whos the girl in the thumbnail

[@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd]

It's Kumirinha, a young brazilian indigenous girl symbol of the BRchan, but she is no more just an character of BRchan and is an well known meme now

[@Official_Figsvtowy2]

Never Ask His Discord Members for a Emoji

[@GunkShot111]

Call me down bad, but the thumbnail ain’t bad tho 😏

[@brubdub.]

tf??? i mean, you got me there, i was gonna call you down bad...

[@GunkShot111]

@@brubdub. I’m talking about the quality of the thumbnail flags, the uploader did a good job finding a high resolution image unlike the shitty 1p flags I see sometimes.

[@brubdub.]

@@GunkShot111 i mean you have a point

[@sebz447]

​@@GunkShot111sureee.... sureee...

[@zelezhu6726]

6:10 song?

[@Italian_Mapper]

description

[@MatesMega.]

Why there is some shy anime girl in the thumbnail? 🫵🤨📷

[@Berijo_bmmaNam-qm5tx]

Yes My Waifu

[@claudiostudios9002]

Her name is Kuruminha, a native Brazilian and I have no idea why she is there

[@kimthuy2954]

4:04 what music?

[@Speed249]

It's in the description

[@ilariolee2911]

The Same Thing Happened As Ww1 In Our Universe 1914-1917 May And Kaiserreich 1917-1919

[@j2e0l1l3y]

qual e la canzone usata nella parte della guerra patriottica?

[@Italian_Mapper]

guarda in descrizione c'è tutto

[@brocoli-he3sy]

bruh mexico fighting usa wouldnt make france capitulate and even less after only loosing paris

[@chadstrats2431]

The US would focus on Mexico first and not the Western front, allowing Germany to stall the Entente and harness resources in Ukraine. Even if Germany is unable to push deeper into France past 1918, the Entente would eventually sue for peace giving Germany a slightly favorable alternative.

[@andydufresnefromshawshank5866]

I’m even surprised that Mexico even made it that far. Even at the time Mexico was very weak in 1917

[@Czechia_xD]

But actually it would be very easy for Germany to fight the RFSR because of its military and technology

[@Крэйден_х]

Someday I, as a citizen of Russia will understand, why Western cartographers are CONFIDENT that the USSR can defeat German Empire. Yes, sure. After several years of civil war, political isolation, a destroyed economy and famine, the USSR would have defeated Germany, yes, yes, haha. This would have been an even faster defeat than Romania in 1916. Which, by the way, also turned out to be surprisingly strong.

[@Italian_Mapper]

Keep in mind Germany is having to fight with stretched supply lines and an unstable economy for a cause which is not linked directly to their fatherland

[@thegreatestoctopus9739]

​@@Italian_MapperThe cause is directly linked to the Fatherland tho? Like if they lose the east, the communist might aswell just march into Berlin. Not to mention the USSR got beat by Poland OTL, there is no way they win here

[@Anonimus-bu8sk]

A frustrated painter named Diego Rivera returned from the front with resentment, he would enter politics and the rest is history. 🚬🗿

[@rxdF]

good video bro from mexico

[@Tabanepik]

Whats the song in 4:08 ???

[@eli-vr1oc]

Texans with guns could hold some floating tacos off!

[@gavinsepicgaming9835]

You severely overestimate the speed of ww1 army, germany couldn't reach paris mexico cannot reach any major city or actually take it once US army is there, also logistics

[@franciscojavierdelatorreba3554]

I dont think the soviets would be prepared

[@claudiostudios9002]

…why is Kuruminha in the thumbnail?

[@Italian_Mapper]

idk

[@jhapethlloydciron3185]

I finnaly found the gravy, or sauce, idk

[@kylezdancewicz7346]

So here’s what actually happened when the leader of Mexico was rudely awoken from his dream turned bad. Mexico got some territory with surprise, then Revolutionary exploded even more and the Mexican troops in the USA have supply issues do to the already existing revolutionaries in the north and then the USA starts mobilizing men and kicks Mexico out and by time USA troops cross into Mexico proper Mexico City has already been besieged if not taken by revolutionaries so the USA let’s the new government take over maybe taking some Northern Territory like Baja California and after that the Germans Keiser wakes up and sees the Mexico distraction was a complete failure, the army is close to Paris but taking it would take much longer then they have rights now because after Mexico capitulation the USA is coming already partially mobilized and that lead to Germany not being able to push and even being pushed back and after some time the kieser has to surrender or face a civil war themselves. In the end not much change except a Revolutionary Mexico and the USA is probably going to be less neutral in the peace talks meaning possible harsher treatment of the German empires and the ottomans and Bulgarians.

[@Jonessavimbi]

Boy what do you mean if when they did attack usa during ww1💀💀🥵🥵

[@Hamstorian]

< CLASSIFED > Name: Operation New France Goal: Secure Mexican Occupation untell the Rio Grande Unit Numbers: 306,000 US / 100,000-150,000 MX (estimate) Date: 9th October, 1918 thanks @italian_Mapper for the video!

[@CuriosityCornerYTShorts]

bro really said "Remember The Alamo"

[@ostiawey]

The soviets would've gotten crushed by the germans if they even dared to attack lmao

[@phunsies]

is this a star reference??!?!!?

[@Italian_Mapper]

It cant be, or can it

[@Space_Mustafa]

4:05 Music Name?

[@Italian_Mapper]

check in description

[@MapperMadeInChina]

Everyone talkin bout the video but what the fuck is an anime girl doing on the thumbnail

[@Italian_Mapper]

Let me cook

[@brubdub.]

@@Italian_Mapper we let you cook, now we want an answer

[@claudiostudios9002]

@@Italian_MapperI’m just curious why you used a Brazilian native for a video about Mexico

[@Gogeta-01-o2i]

Amrica said:it's not your time Lil buddy

[@phouthalomphasavath5842]

Wait, Didn't Britains have Tanks During WWI, How did the British tanks didn't stop the germans from causing france to fall?

[@Italian_Mapper]

they had the very first tanks ever so they were pretty useless since the first models were really heavy and slow and it wasn't much efficent

[@Berijo_bmmaNam-qm5tx]

@@Italian_Mapper Yo I know this Kurunminha thumbnail

[@HelperUTTP]

Nice vid

[@selok91]

The USSR would propably start pushing Poland And Lithuania in short period of time after end of the war, and either The Battle of Warsaw happens same as in reality, or communists will win. Then they have free way to advance in Germany and allies too. In reality, bolshevics were stopped at warsaw and their expansion was stopped. But in this reality... Who knows!

[@TGamesTmedia01]

Is anyone going to talk about the anime character in the thumbnail? No? Just me?

[@tencosiezastanawiap2992]

Yes. Just you.

[@claudiostudios9002]

Kuruminha is her name

[@ShamikKothare]

hello is me again oh and im back with more tips --- you did make teh font smaller gj --- 4:05 the army sizes addition was a great idea --- but why not put sizes for all fronts liek teh Fourth Balkan War and Italian Revolution --- siege and encirclement idea was good --- can u add the names like in Axis Victory: The Man in the High Castle? they look good --- is it just me or was this video a bit blurry than last --- oh and add the cities all in all great video

[@Italian_Mapper]

Thanks for coming with new critics and stuff, the army sizes was an experiment I still have to learn how to make them good and stuff, the maps are blurry because by zooming them in they lose quality so i'm not gonna do that again, but in the man in the high castle video there are no names so i dont understand that

[@ShamikKothare]

bro the names of coutries

[@Italian_Mapper]

Idk which names

[@ivangordienko8081]

Who is the girl in the thimbnail?

[@Italian_Mapper]

kuruminha i think

[@mongolianpeoplesrepublic]

i searched it and didn't found the results

[@MrsjulieMackay]

5:30 France And Belgium Would Turn on Germany at this point

[@MissingNumber9]

Los Angeles will not fall 💪

[@Iitalia0]

My son is learning so fast

[@rohanleblancsloan9651]

I really like your videos, but here’s one note I would like to leave, I doubt Germany would occupy France, and puppet it. They would weaken France more, then try to sign for peace with Britain (likely in their favour) and I doubt Britain would deny this treaty as it was on the brink of collapse like Germany, the populace was tired of war, and France already surrendered. Thank you for listening to my opinion!

[@chillychile1985]

how did you get the map

[@seamusfinnegan1164]

Honestly as far as my understanding of the situation Mexico would have a good time for a good 3-4 months before being pushed back and kicked the shit out of for barely over a year before being forced to capitulate and that possibly upwards of a year and a half while possible to give Germany a good edge, would not in my view have been enough in of itself to save Germany as I just dont see Germany makeing the big successful offensive showcased in this video, at least not in the year its made. That being said such is with the assumption America ever learned of the Telegram in such a timeline and if they did not they might not even intervene into Europe at all which would be a whole separate thing so a particularly prolonged war if Germany could hold itself and Austria together could go very differently then OTL

[@Cameraplayz970]

The thumbnail💀

[@slayride136]

What’s wrong?

[@Cameraplayz970]

@@slayride136 anime girl💀

[@slayride136]

@@Cameraplayz970 Yeah and?

[@Cameraplayz970]

@@slayride136 cringe

[@slayride136]

@@Cameraplayz970 Then why overusing skull emoji? Make no sense

[@lyudmilaismayilova8937]

What happens after that? is ww3 happened or rest of century will remain peacefully @italian mapper

[@генийнагение]

Не логично... Но даже если и принять то,что происходит в видео,то германия бы не проиграла СССР и Британии спустя всего 2 года после ПМВ

[@baljinnyamnyamsuren7444]

Ww2 soviet and Germany switched in this video😂

[@ThunderMike21]

Nopal+machete= big armor

[@ThePatrioticTurtle]

I don’t think Italy would have fallen that fast

[@HikikoSunny01]

The use of Kuriminha (Brazilian Waifu) just makes this funny, 'cause this video is about mexico and US

[@Italian_Mapper]

finally someone recognized her

[@HikikoSunny01]

@@Italian_MapperNice, I actually clicked the video because of 'mexican kuruminha' As someone used to see her (or he, not going to explain this part) as the Brazilian waifu, it was kinda uncanny lol

[@wenger42]

Part 2?

[@Italian_Mapper]

Perhaps but we tired of ww2

[@albaniapena8214]

​@@Italian_MapperTechnically it would be the 3rd, and it would also be very epic to see a 2nd part. I loved the video.

[@LukeCarbaugh]

The title ☠️☠️☠️☠️

[@justacat2]

i like it but i feel like some countries surrender a bit too fast.. also when italy and greece lost against germany, then they immediately join the entente is honestly a bit weird, you should've made some uprising in greece and italy, also u should have made greece occupy southern bulgaria and northwestern turkey, also you should have gave constantinople to britain.. but overrall it was good

[@Pavo_plemiun]

If Mexico had not been in a revolution and had agreed to attack the Americans if they could have some territory in the American south since the revolutionaries could join the army for example Francisco Villa known Pancho Villa who was one of the most important revolutionaries until then. point in defeating the American army several times since he was a stranger (name of the song at the end xd please)

[@Italian_Mapper]

the music is in description

[@Pavo_plemiun]

​@@Italian_Mapper Thanks, I hadn't seen it, I'm sorry

[@JillianPrimrose]

The answer is... Nothing. Mexico was just too busy dealing with its own internal problems before, during and after the First World War.

[@theduch981]

Nice mapping