What if Mexico attacked the USA in 1917

[@Italian_Mapper]

Guys remember to not take the army sizes as 100% historically accurate

[@BeningignW]

Is this the thing you have been working on?

[@Italian_Mapper]

nah

[@BeningignW]

@@Italian_Mapper ah

[@Hamstorian]

Do You know What the Song was during 'The Patriotic War' ?

[@Italian_Mapper]

Check description

[@AustroHungarianEmpire1867]

Mexico was literally in a civil war. The north of the country has suffered greatly, and it ended in 1919. In conclusion, the Mexican army wouldn't have been able to attack the US if it wanted to.

[@LePineconeMan]

W pfp

[@ExDixionconderoga]

This video is just for jokes

[@christoferrodriguez7672]

What if Mexico was not in a civil war

[@HimmyNeutron2714]

🤓 Not supposed to be realistic

[@christoferrodriguez7672]

@@HimmyNeutron2714 you sure about that

[@Zrck33]

Then… a young veteran called Adolfo Hernández who wanted to be a painter, started into mexican politics

[@dylanhoeltzel09]

WAIT A MINUTE

[@ISacoDePatatasI]

SALUDEN ADOLFO¡

[@charmyzard]

I mean, Salvador Abrascal and the synarchists exist...

[@shreddedbulgariamapperofficial]

oh no 😳😳

[@thecircle_iseverywhere]

wait hol up ☠️

[@m.a.n4134]

i think the video fails to address some important things, mainly: mexico just got out of a civil war and was in no position to fight, the US would've pushed back the mexicans long before they did in the video, germany was doomed to lose to the british blockade, germany was in no position for an offensive in 1918, as their soldiers were mutineeing in mass, starving, and had just lost the 1918 spring offensive, ottoman forces couldn't push back the british even if they tried, the soviets wouldn't attack germany so soon after they had won their revolution since they didn't endustrialize in mass and would get steamrolled by the germans.

[@senatorarmstrong4168]

They were still in the civil war.

[@m.a.n4134]

@@senatorarmstrong4168 though it was for the most part resolved by then.

[@ShamikKothare]

yea good piont

[@senatorarmstrong4168]

@@m.a.n4134 mostly small fighting scattered across the nation

[@elijahwood4056]

Bro the spring offensive happened in 1918 tho

[@caiusoof]

Yeah realistically, Mexico would just die in 3 weeks at most, due to internal conflict (civil war as it’s aka)

[@Franciko69]

Yeah, Mexico would have more chance if Porfirio Diaz (Mexican dictator and general) was still around

[@AndreEmilianoRuizGeorge]

​@@Franciko69 Yes

[@_1_05_]

@@Franciko69given how advanced Mexico was under his rule, they would’ve definitely had a chance since the civil war wouldn’t have existed and the Mexican people would be united against one common enemy

[@gabrielagustinhomas]

Seriously? Mexico would NEVER get that far into US territory. It was super weak financially and in the middle of a multi-sided civil war at the time. The Americans would have defeated the Mexicans almost right away.

[@courtneyrivera-mw2ot]

bro you don't need to go super serious with a simple video though.

[@TheBlueSupergiant]

It's an alternate timeline.

[@courtneyrivera-mw2ot]

@@TheBlueSupergiant sorry posting late but i know about that but it's just that you can't go overboard with things like this video just saying.

[@andreagamarra5945]

Switerland: hey I made popcorn Spain Spain: nice Denmark: good morning let's watch ww1 Netherlands and Portugal: bet

[@THGuillermo]

Being realistic in those times the Mexican army was very divided, possibly we would not have lasted a week, of course being positive if they had united for the same objective of Recovery of territory and military aid from Germany possibly and we would have lasted longer

[@orrorsaness5942]

Nah I think this scenario was realistic, the us army at the time was weaker than Italy… ITALY!!!

[@GemboGlaggle]

@@orrorsaness5942but mexico was having a civil war from 1910 to 1917, so aid from the central powers was really the only chance they had at keeping America down.

[@CommonSense1993]

@@orrorsaness5942the US army at the time was small since they didn’t have any major war, the national gourd would’ve hold the Mexican off before the army comes

[@dolphingoreeaccount7395]

And would have rapidly mobilized. Guerilla warfare was also likely. Size also does not equal strength.

[@chilpalendo]

@@orrorsaness5942They werent. USA was 5th or 3rd

[@ThyAverageCommenter]

One time, a Mexican revolutionary, governor of chihuahua, named Pancho Villa invaded a town named Columbus, in New Mexico. -Killing 17 Americans and injuring 8-10. -Afterwards, his group looted then burned the town. -An expedition was launched, leaded by Commander John J. Pershing, lasted for a year, but Villa was never found, or captured. -He was then assassinated, shot dead in 1923, probably by a Mexican political rival, nothing related to the expedition or the invasion, it was most likely because rivals or the government feared Villa would start a rebellion, so to prevent that, and keep the regime, he was killed, but there are many theories regarding his death. We can all agree this man had balls of steel.

[@magiccc8841]

5:08 Great detail in the numbers.

[@Gerjaria]

You know what I started wanting MORE ww2 video's I get why you like them that much

[@Vitoreto476]

Wtf México was so powerfull starting the war. Of course the new animation in 4:00 is good. Great video🫵!

[@Italian_Mapper]

Thanks

[@estradadavilafernandojavie8684]

It's not that Mexico is very powerful, it's that the US army was very bad.

[@gloverfox9135]

@@estradadavilafernandojavie8684 that’s not what the Mexicans thought in 1846-1848.

[@estradadavilafernandojavie8684]

@@gloverfox9135 What have I written? my comment does not appear

[@C4ndicy]

It's because US forces were not in mexico-USA border at the time.

[@ilarioLee]

3:50 German Empire: Your Live Will End In 5 Seconds Austria-Hungary Empire: I Don't Feel So Good! OOF! (POSSIBLY DIED)

[@ilarioLee]

4:03 Soviet Union: It's Time To End Kaiserreich German Empire: OH CRAP!

[@andreascarabelli826]

4:08 bro putted ww2 again in a ww1 title video 😭😭

[@Italian_Mapper]

smirk

[@dylanhoeltzel09]

​@@Italian_Mapperbruh

[@MayedusDalten]

@@Italian_Mapper do next What if usa had collapse instead of the ussr history?

[@chiefofficerhenrywilde6556]

Video idea: What if Romania and Italy both joined at the outbreak of war for a

[@JoboGamezzz]

Like for central powers Would make some sense as Italy was pet of the triple alliance and Romania had secret agreements with them

[@MrsjulieMackay]

Bro Was Down bad for attention (No offence)

[@ilarioLee]

3:52 Austria: I Will Join You! German Empire: Okay!

[@vlar568noice2]

Best video of the month so far! A sequel would be fantastic

[@dylanhoeltzel09]

The thumbnail is wild 💀

[@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd]

The fact that It's a Brazilian indigenous character that started as a symbol of the Brazilian Chan (BRchan) make this even funnier

[@dylanhoeltzel09]

@Maps_in_europe1 AYO 💀

[@brubdub.]

@Maps_in_europe1 TF BRO💀💀💀

[@Miguelzito247]

​@@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cdItalians discovered Kuruminha lmao

[@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd]

@@Miguelzito247 That's great, we need to spread the word

[@theromanmapper]

He made another WW2 video using poor Mexico, what a shame... But still an amazing work!

[@theromanmapper]

Also Central Powers were too soft whit Italy in this timeline after WW1

[@Italian_Mapper]

Blud didn't expect ww2 here

[@theromanmapper]

@@Italian_Mapper I didn't

[@HayderH709]

I liked that you add hoi4 effects 😁😁😁

[@ilarioLee]

0:58 German Empire: I Gained Puppets Of The Eastern Empires Of Europe RSFSR: thanks!

[@Dantalionn]

To be honest, I don't think Germany would have been able to push its trenches in France beyond the historical setting, even without the arrival of American troops. What would possibly happen is a war of exhaustion and both would come to an agreement of a negotiated peace, while the United States punched Mexico... In the end we would still have a German Empire in this timeline, practically a cold war in Europe between France/UK against Germany.

[@pokemon9573]

Probably the best alt. history map video I've seen in a while.

[@Jesus-ju3yy]

No puedo creer que esté canal dibujo mejor a una mexicana que los de Disney (viva 🇲🇽 16 de septiembre)

[@ilarioLee]

3:59 Hungary: Can I Help? German Empire: Okay!

[@depositthesenutts8899]

The thumbnail of Mexico waifu.. I want it 😤😤😤

[@brubdub.]

wth bro... did you click for ANYTHING else???

[@claudiostudios9002]

She’s actually Brazilian, her name is “Kuruminha”

[@Rommelrumia69420]

She is not mexican 💀💀

[@parangaricutirimicuara6692]

Yeah

[@PolPot-v6k]

@@claudiostudios9002 Thanks for the name G

[@UwU-xk5cx]

As a mexican, realistically at that point in time what would have happened is the moment Carranza declared war, basically any other of the other like 10 caudillos would have asked the US for support and taken power, then the anti american caudillos would have moved their armies to reignite the civil war again and it would have all devolved into full blown civil war for like the 12th time that century That aside I like the video, it's not one of those "then mexico joined and the central powers ended up marching on washington somehow"

[@RonaldGrant-l7n]

I was looking for this good vid

[@DublikoDublyc]

I didnt expect France to surrender, I think it’s a bit unrealistic (just my thoughts)

[@greatlakesfederation2033]

Petition for Italian Mapper to do WW1 Fuhrerreich 👇

[@Italian_Mapper]

Perhaps

[@greatlakesfederation2033]

@@Italian_Mapper wait really

[@unknown12367]

Me at 1923: GREECE JOIN THE FUCKING REEEEED

[@NegativeSocialCredits]

Plz make a sequel to this it would be interesting if there were 3 alliances in the Cold War

[@rln2016]

Where did you get the inspiration for adding Hoi4 sounds?

[@Italian_Mapper]

I dont know i just saw many videos using them

[@unknown12367]

I have a big suggestion to make to you about ww1​@@Italian_Mapper

[@yason1708]

It was perfect, until 4:04.

[@jirikkulisek7906]

why do you think that the video after that time wasn´t good?

[@pans7761]

@@jirikkulisek7906because the red army would of collapsed easily, the Russians didn’t have the industry against the central powers

[@sushiiravu]

If the soviets couldn't take Poland in otl, how would they be able to take an emboldened post-war Germany?

[@Dheiksans]

Let’s go another Video 👍👍👍

[@TNDylan.]

Mexico couldn't of possibly pushed that far into the United States with the total disrepair their army was in in 1917, also they wouldn't of been able to hold onto the land that long either.

[@DasBoot40]

J’adore vos vidéo je pourrais les regarder toute la journée c’est vraiment bien fait !

[@DreadMaps.]

Yeah this super boosted mexico’s army

[@bluegrassreb]

Reality... the US would now have about 65 states.

[@RegentOfGreece]

Fantastic work, my friend! Really good job. ^_^ If I may ask a couple questions, what are the general Ideologies of each faction during and after ww2? Like, the West Allies are Democratic, and the Germans are Imperialist? Also, how come France was on Germany's side? Did they go through an Authoritarian coup or something? 😅

[@Italian_Mapper]

Well Germany still has the kaiser so they are an absolute monarchy i think, after ww1 Germany placed a German aligned government in France so thats why they are allies

[@RegentOfGreece]

@Italian_Mapper understandable. ^_^ Would you say Britain, Italy and Greece maintained Liberal Democratic governments as well?

[@Italian_Mapper]

Well they would have the government they had in real life so they are still monarchies but i'm not very informed to say which monarchy type

[@RegentOfGreece]

@Italian_Mapper that's perfectly fine, lol. :) Would you possibly be interested in a part two of sorts to explain their positions and ideologies? You don't have to if you don't want to

[@Italian_Mapper]

i cannut bru sorry dawg i only make maps

[@IamPyu-v]

This alternate history seems very interesting!

[@rxdF]

good video bro from mexico

[@Official_Figsvtowy2]

Never Ask His Discord Members for a Emoji

[@HelperUTTP]

Nice vid

[@albaniapena8214]

If you love your followers do a second part❤❤❤

[@AeternusMaximus]

This scenario would only exist if A. Mexico didn't have a civil war and russia turned straight bolshevik in the first week, B. Mexico had a short civil war and russia had a short civil war, or C. mexico and bolsheviks literally got tripods

[@bocci103]

still some austrian dude will blow everything

[@justacat2]

honestly i think mexico would have never pushed that far, maybe it would have advanced slightly then stagnated

[@VinoProduction192]

Weird fact: i actually comed looking at that anime girl💀💀💀💀💀

[@brubdub.]

bro

[@VinoProduction192]

@@brubdub. yes

[@SRP_Edits707]

SIMP

[@ishnenigans]

Dude.

[@LePineconeMan]

Excuse me?

[@ShamikKothare]

hello is me again oh and im back with more tips --- you did make teh font smaller gj --- 4:05 the army sizes addition was a great idea --- but why not put sizes for all fronts liek teh Fourth Balkan War and Italian Revolution --- siege and encirclement idea was good --- can u add the names like in Axis Victory: The Man in the High Castle? they look good --- is it just me or was this video a bit blurry than last --- oh and add the cities all in all great video

[@Italian_Mapper]

Thanks for coming with new critics and stuff, the army sizes was an experiment I still have to learn how to make them good and stuff, the maps are blurry because by zooming them in they lose quality so i'm not gonna do that again, but in the man in the high castle video there are no names so i dont understand that

[@ShamikKothare]

bro the names of coutries

[@Italian_Mapper]

Idk which names

[@MarshyMellow1223]

Insane Mexican waifu in the thumbnail is just downright based

[@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd]

Brazilian Indigenous Mexican Waifu is the best thing I have ever seen in months

[@MarshyMellow1223]

@@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd Mhmm.

[@Cyxkarlse19-yv3ev]

Yes I love watching all anime girl

[@claudiostudios9002]

Her name is Kuruminha btw

[@MarshyMellow1223]

@@claudiostudios9002good to know

[@theduch981]

Nice mapping

[@ilariolee2911]

The Same Thing Happened As Ww1 In Our Universe 1914-1917 May And Kaiserreich 1917-1919

[@free_uyghuristan]

Love the senussiya mention

[@IrresponsibleChip]

Austria Hungary: Hey guys we just won the war!... Guys?... Guys!?

[@SnakeonLSD]

This video is really great. For one, the USA has a hard time fighting Mexico, when Mexico was in the middle of a civil war and was outnumbered by the Americans 7 to 1. The USA in OTL went hogwild because Germany wrote one letter asking Mexico to attack America with a really dumb promise that obviously was not going to be fulfilled, but I guess America was only going to be offended by an attempt. Clearly, America only mobilized that much in OTL because they couldn't take the second-hand embarrassment. In fact, I even bet that the reason the British let that telegram through their system in the first place is because they were very nice people and they knew that it would be wrong to steal the Mexican Government's mail. After all, they wouldn't want someone to steal THEIR mail, would they? I also appreciated the fact that the Soviet Union declared war on Germany when not 5 fucking years ago the Soviet Union came to power almost entirely because they said they were not going to keep a disastrous war with Germany going. Then there's the fact that the Soviet Union actually does a good job in this war despite suffering extreme economic damage and losing what little industry they had in the west to Germany. Clearly, the Soviet Union would win this war through the magical properties Communists are known to possess (the one that also charms insecure 14 year old boys and makes people work hard without wage incentives). The only problem I had was with the army sizes. Those weren't 100% historically accurate, and I am deeply offended by that. Please fix that immediately.

[@TemplarGamer56]

Kinda of a cope , this was the height of fun culture where families owned a ton of weapons and in some cases were more armed then some militaries. That invasion would inflict a lot of casualties and eventually would get push out .

[@MrsjulieMackay]

5:30 France And Belgium Would Turn on Germany at this point

[@oseandepartmentofnarcotics]

No way the USA just annexes the northern part of Baja California. They would've taken it all

[@Sleve_McDichael1]

Taco Land is no more.

[@xavierchapa7276]

NOOOOO😭😭😭😭

[@kimthuy2954]

4:04 what music?

[@Speed249]

It's in the description

[@GunkShot111]

Call me down bad, but the thumbnail ain’t bad tho 😏

[@brubdub.]

tf??? i mean, you got me there, i was gonna call you down bad...

[@GunkShot111]

@@brubdub. I’m talking about the quality of the thumbnail flags, the uploader did a good job finding a high resolution image unlike the shitty 1p flags I see sometimes.

[@brubdub.]

@@GunkShot111 i mean you have a point

[@sebz447]

​@@GunkShot111sureee.... sureee...

[@Tabanepik]

Whats the song in 4:08 ???

[@zelezhu6726]

6:10 song?

[@Italian_Mapper]

description

[@Крэйден_х]

Someday I, as a citizen of Russia will understand, why Western cartographers are CONFIDENT that the USSR can defeat German Empire. Yes, sure. After several years of civil war, political isolation, a destroyed economy and famine, the USSR would have defeated Germany, yes, yes, haha. This would have been an even faster defeat than Romania in 1916. Which, by the way, also turned out to be surprisingly strong.

[@Italian_Mapper]

Keep in mind Germany is having to fight with stretched supply lines and an unstable economy for a cause which is not linked directly to their fatherland

[@thegreatestoctopus9739]

​@@Italian_MapperThe cause is directly linked to the Fatherland tho? Like if they lose the east, the communist might aswell just march into Berlin. Not to mention the USSR got beat by Poland OTL, there is no way they win here

[@Dodo-ku3fi]

video about mexico but having a brazilian native in thumbnail

[@Iitalia0]

My son is learning so fast

[@Agamingperson]

Guys, maybe mexico defeated the rebellions and cartels and stuff in the mexican civil war early and got to build up its army or smth

[@m.j.vazquez4720]

thats kinda what happand in france lots of fighting meant there was a lot of armed men that when united formed a very large army

[@lapoza98]

This is actually the first video where I saw a Central American country declare war on the allied powers

[@lapoza98]

I meant on the allied powers side.

[@andydufresnefromshawshank5866]

I’m even surprised that Mexico even made it that far. Even at the time Mexico was very weak in 1917

[@MatesMega]

Why there is some shy anime girl in the thumbnail? 🫵🤨📷

[@Berijo_bmmaNam-qm5tx]

Yes My Waifu

[@claudiostudios9002]

Her name is Kuruminha, a native Brazilian and I have no idea why she is there

[@chillychile1985]

how did you get the map

[@gavinsepicgaming9835]

You severely overestimate the speed of ww1 army, germany couldn't reach paris mexico cannot reach any major city or actually take it once US army is there, also logistics

[@brocoli-he3sy]

bruh mexico fighting usa wouldnt make france capitulate and even less after only loosing paris

[@chadstrats2431]

The US would focus on Mexico first and not the Western front, allowing Germany to stall the Entente and harness resources in Ukraine. Even if Germany is unable to push deeper into France past 1918, the Entente would eventually sue for peace giving Germany a slightly favorable alternative.

[@ThunderMike21]

Nopal+machete= big armor

[@HyperVelocity_4YT]

What app did you use this could help a lot with my channel

[@Italian_Mapper]

I used paint .net

[@HyperVelocity_4YT]

@@Italian_Mapper oh thanks haha I don’t have a computer.😭

[@j2e0l1l3y]

qual e la canzone usata nella parte della guerra patriottica?

[@Italian_Mapper]

guarda in descrizione c'è tutto

[@kylezdancewicz7346]

So here’s what actually happened when the leader of Mexico was rudely awoken from his dream turned bad. Mexico got some territory with surprise, then Revolutionary exploded even more and the Mexican troops in the USA have supply issues do to the already existing revolutionaries in the north and then the USA starts mobilizing men and kicks Mexico out and by time USA troops cross into Mexico proper Mexico City has already been besieged if not taken by revolutionaries so the USA let’s the new government take over maybe taking some Northern Territory like Baja California and after that the Germans Keiser wakes up and sees the Mexico distraction was a complete failure, the army is close to Paris but taking it would take much longer then they have rights now because after Mexico capitulation the USA is coming already partially mobilized and that lead to Germany not being able to push and even being pushed back and after some time the kieser has to surrender or face a civil war themselves. In the end not much change except a Revolutionary Mexico and the USA is probably going to be less neutral in the peace talks meaning possible harsher treatment of the German empires and the ottomans and Bulgarians.

[@Бардюр-ч1з]

Удивляет, что всё это произошло из-за Мексики

[@phunsies]

is this a star reference??!?!!?

[@Italian_Mapper]

It cant be, or can it

[@Czechia_xD]

But actually it would be very easy for Germany to fight the RFSR because of its military and technology

[@PyzhRav_SGP]

3:37 No territorial gift for Guatemala(((

[@Anonimus-bu8sk]

A frustrated painter named Diego Rivera returned from the front with resentment, he would enter politics and the rest is history. 🚬🗿

[@Gogeta-01-o2i]

Amrica said:it's not your time Lil buddy

[@ThePatrioticTurtle]

I don’t think Italy would have fallen that fast

[@CuriosityCornerYTShorts]

bro really said "Remember The Alamo"

[@franciscojavierdelatorreba3554]

I dont think the soviets would be prepared

[@Hamstorian]

< CLASSIFED > Name: Operation New France Goal: Secure Mexican Occupation untell the Rio Grande Unit Numbers: 306,000 US / 100,000-150,000 MX (estimate) Date: 9th October, 1918 thanks @italian_Mapper for the video!

[@randommappr.]

cool

[@seamusfinnegan1164]

Honestly as far as my understanding of the situation Mexico would have a good time for a good 3-4 months before being pushed back and kicked the shit out of for barely over a year before being forced to capitulate and that possibly upwards of a year and a half while possible to give Germany a good edge, would not in my view have been enough in of itself to save Germany as I just dont see Germany makeing the big successful offensive showcased in this video, at least not in the year its made. That being said such is with the assumption America ever learned of the Telegram in such a timeline and if they did not they might not even intervene into Europe at all which would be a whole separate thing so a particularly prolonged war if Germany could hold itself and Austria together could go very differently then OTL

[@Space_Mustafa]

4:05 Music Name?

[@Italian_Mapper]

check in description

[@Oyuncubilgin-l7w]

The relevance of the girl in the cover photo to the video🗿

[@justacat2]

i like it but i feel like some countries surrender a bit too fast.. also when italy and greece lost against germany, then they immediately join the entente is honestly a bit weird, you should've made some uprising in greece and italy, also u should have made greece occupy southern bulgaria and northwestern turkey, also you should have gave constantinople to britain.. but overrall it was good

[@dydunyatv4286]

Fun fact: everbody click video beauce thumnail

[@MissingNumber9]

Los Angeles will not fall 💪

[@ostiawey]

The soviets would've gotten crushed by the germans if they even dared to attack lmao

[@MapperMadeInChina]

Everyone talkin bout the video but what the fuck is an anime girl doing on the thumbnail

[@Italian_Mapper]

Let me cook

[@brubdub.]

@@Italian_Mapper we let you cook, now we want an answer

[@claudiostudios9002]

@@Italian_MapperI’m just curious why you used a Brazilian native for a video about Mexico

[@Mapper_Space]

Can we get a sequel to this? I'm curious as to what happens next.

[@Andry202]

Can u plz tell me how u make these videos plz?

[@Italian_Mapper]

with paint .net

[@Andry202]

Thanks