What if Mexico attacked the USA in 1917

[@Italian_Mapper]

Guys remember to not take the army sizes as 100% historically accurate

[@BeningignW]

Is this the thing you have been working on?

[@Italian_Mapper]

nah

[@BeningignW]

@@Italian_Mapper ah

[@Hamstorian]

Do You know What the Song was during 'The Patriotic War' ?

[@Italian_Mapper]

Check description

[@AustroHungarianEmpire1867]

Mexico was literally in a civil war. The north of the country has suffered greatly, and it ended in 1919. In conclusion, the Mexican army wouldn't have been able to attack the US if it wanted to.

[@LePineconeMan]

W pfp

[@ExDixionconderoga]

This video is just for jokes

[@christoferrodriguez7672]

What if Mexico was not in a civil war

[@HimmyNeutron2714]

🤓 Not supposed to be realistic

[@christoferrodriguez7672]

@@HimmyNeutron2714 you sure about that

[@Zrck33]

Then… a young veteran called Adolfo Hernández who wanted to be a painter, started into mexican politics

[@dylanhoeltzel09]

WAIT A MINUTE

[@skibidisigmarizzohiosigma]

SALUDEN ADOLFO¡

[@charmyzard]

I mean, Salvador Abrascal and the synarchists exist...

[@shreddedbulgariamapperofficial]

oh no 😳😳

[@thecirclemappin]

wait hol up ☠️

[@m.a.n4134]

i think the video fails to address some important things, mainly: mexico just got out of a civil war and was in no position to fight, the US would've pushed back the mexicans long before they did in the video, germany was doomed to lose to the british blockade, germany was in no position for an offensive in 1918, as their soldiers were mutineeing in mass, starving, and had just lost the 1918 spring offensive, ottoman forces couldn't push back the british even if they tried, the soviets wouldn't attack germany so soon after they had won their revolution since they didn't endustrialize in mass and would get steamrolled by the germans.

[@senatorarmstrong4168]

They were still in the civil war.

[@m.a.n4134]

@@senatorarmstrong4168 though it was for the most part resolved by then.

[@ShamikKothare]

yea good piont

[@senatorarmstrong4168]

@@m.a.n4134 mostly small fighting scattered across the nation

[@elijahwood4056]

Bro the spring offensive happened in 1918 tho

[@chiefofficerhenrywilde6556]

Video idea: What if Romania and Italy both joined at the outbreak of war for a

[@JoboGamezzz]

Like for central powers Would make some sense as Italy was pet of the triple alliance and Romania had secret agreements with them

[@MrsjulieMackay]

Bro Was Down bad for attention (No offence)

[@caiusoof]

Yeah realistically, Mexico would just die in 3 weeks at most, due to internal conflict (civil war as it’s aka)

[@Franciko69]

Yeah, Mexico would have more chance if Porfirio Diaz (Mexican dictator and general) was still around

[@AndreEmilianoRuizGeorge]

​@@Franciko69 Yes

[@_1_05_]

@@Franciko69given how advanced Mexico was under his rule, they would’ve definitely had a chance since the civil war wouldn’t have existed and the Mexican people would be united against one common enemy

[@Vitoreto476]

Wtf México was so powerfull starting the war. Of course the new animation in 4:00 is good. Great video🫵!

[@Italian_Mapper]

Thanks

[@estradadavilafernandojavie8684]

It's not that Mexico is very powerful, it's that the US army was very bad.

[@gloverfox9135]

@@estradadavilafernandojavie8684 that’s not what the Mexicans thought in 1846-1848.

[@estradadavilafernandojavie8684]

@@gloverfox9135 What have I written? my comment does not appear

[@C4ndicy]

It's because US forces were not in mexico-USA border at the time.

[@THGuillermo]

Being realistic in those times the Mexican army was very divided, possibly we would not have lasted a week, of course being positive if they had united for the same objective of Recovery of territory and military aid from Germany possibly and we would have lasted longer

[@orrorsaness5942]

Nah I think this scenario was realistic, the us army at the time was weaker than Italy… ITALY!!!

[@GemboGlaggle]

@@orrorsaness5942but mexico was having a civil war from 1910 to 1917, so aid from the central powers was really the only chance they had at keeping America down.

[@TheActualFuckingSun]

@@orrorsaness5942the US army at the time was small since they didn’t have any major war, the national gourd would’ve hold the Mexican off before the army comes

[@dolphingoreeaccount7395]

And would have rapidly mobilized. Guerilla warfare was also likely. Size also does not equal strength.

[@chilpalendo]

@@orrorsaness5942They werent. USA was 5th or 3rd

[@Gerjaria]

You know what I started wanting MORE ww2 video's I get why you like them that much

[@andreascarabelli826]

4:08 bro putted ww2 again in a ww1 title video 😭😭

[@Italian_Mapper]

smirk

[@dylanhoeltzel09]

​@@Italian_Mapperbruh

[@MayedusDalten]

@@Italian_Mapper do next What if usa had collapse instead of the ussr history?

[@magiccc8841]

5:08 Great detail in the numbers.

[@gabrielagustinhomas]

Seriously? Mexico would NEVER get that far into US territory. It was super weak financially and in the middle of a multi-sided civil war at the time. The Americans would have defeated the Mexicans almost right away.

[@courtneyrivera-mw2ot]

bro you don't need to go super serious with a simple video though.

[@TheBlueSupergiant]

It's an alternate timeline.

[@courtneyrivera-mw2ot]

@@TheBlueSupergiant sorry posting late but i know about that but it's just that you can't go overboard with things like this video just saying.

[@dylanhoeltzel09]

The thumbnail is wild 💀

[@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd]

The fact that It's a Brazilian indigenous character that started as a symbol of the Brazilian Chan (BRchan) make this even funnier

[@dylanhoeltzel09]

@Maps_in_europe1 AYO 💀

[@brubdub.]

@Maps_in_europe1 TF BRO💀💀💀

[@Miguelzito247]

​@@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cdItalians discovered Kuruminha lmao

[@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd]

@@Miguelzito247 That's great, we need to spread the word

[@ilarioLee]

4:03 Soviet Union: It's Time To End Kaiserreich German Empire: OH CRAP!

[@ilarioLee]

3:50 German Empire: Your Live Will End In 5 Seconds Austria-Hungary Empire: I Don't Feel So Good! OOF! (POSSIBLY DIED)

[@andreagamarra5945]

Switerland: hey I made popcorn Spain Spain: nice Denmark: good morning let's watch ww1 Netherlands and Portugal: bet

[@vlar568noice2]

Best video of the month so far! A sequel would be fantastic

[@ilarioLee]

3:52 Austria: I Will Join You! German Empire: Okay!

[@Jesus-ju3yy]

No puedo creer que esté canal dibujo mejor a una mexicana que los de Disney (viva 🇲🇽 16 de septiembre)

[@TheRomanMapper]

He made another WW2 video using poor Mexico, what a shame... But still an amazing work!

[@TheRomanMapper]

Also Central Powers were too soft whit Italy in this timeline after WW1

[@Italian_Mapper]

Blud didn't expect ww2 here

[@TheRomanMapper]

@@Italian_Mapper I didn't

[@zelezhu6726]

6:10 song?

[@Italian_Mapper]

description

[@ilarioLee]

0:58 German Empire: I Gained Puppets Of The Eastern Empires Of Europe RSFSR: thanks!

[@kimthuy2954]

4:04 what music?

[@Speed249]

It's in the description

[@rln2016]

Where did you get the inspiration for adding Hoi4 sounds?

[@Italian_Mapper]

I dont know i just saw many videos using them

[@unknown12367]

I have a big suggestion to make to you about ww1​@@Italian_Mapper

[@pokemon9573]

Probably the best alt. history map video I've seen in a while.

[@ilarioLee]

3:59 Hungary: Can I Help? German Empire: Okay!

[@yason1708]

It was perfect, until 4:04.

[@jirikkulisek7906]

why do you think that the video after that time wasn´t good?

[@pans7761]

@@jirikkulisek7906because the red army would of collapsed easily, the Russians didn’t have the industry against the central powers

[@sushiiravu]

If the soviets couldn't take Poland in otl, how would they be able to take an emboldened post-war Germany?

[@Dantalionn]

To be honest, I don't think Germany would have been able to push its trenches in France beyond the historical setting, even without the arrival of American troops. What would possibly happen is a war of exhaustion and both would come to an agreement of a negotiated peace, while the United States punched Mexico... In the end we would still have a German Empire in this timeline, practically a cold war in Europe between France/UK against Germany.

[@Wa1lx]

everyone gangsta till a belgian singer makes his way to france

[@Tabanepik]

Whats the song in 4:08 ???

[@RonaldGrant-l7n]

I was looking for this good vid

[@ThyAverageCommenter]

One time, a Mexican revolutionary, governor of chihuahua, named Pancho Villa invaded a town named Columbus, in New Mexico. -Killing 17 Americans and injuring 8-10. -Afterwards, his group looted then burned the town. -An expedition was launched, leaded by Commander John J. Pershing, lasted for a year, but Villa was never found, or captured. -He was then assassinated, shot dead in 1923, probably by a Mexican political rival, nothing related to the expedition or the invasion, it was most likely because rivals or the government feared Villa would start a rebellion, so to prevent that, and keep the regime, he was killed, but there are many theories regarding his death. We can all agree this man had balls of steel.

[@NegativeSocialCredits]

Plz make a sequel to this it would be interesting if there were 3 alliances in the Cold War

[@depositthesenutts8899]

The thumbnail of Mexico waifu.. I want it 😤😤😤

[@brubdub.]

wth bro... did you click for ANYTHING else???

[@claudiostudios9002]

She’s actually Brazilian, her name is “Kuruminha”

[@Rommelrumia69420]

She is not mexican 💀💀

[@Elsueco174kaka]

Yeah

[@PolPot-v6k]

@@claudiostudios9002 Thanks for the name G

[@HayderH709]

I liked that you add hoi4 effects 😁😁😁

[@Dheiksans]

Let’s go another Video 👍👍👍

[@Space_Mustafa]

4:05 Music Name?

[@Italian_Mapper]

check in description

[@DasBoot40]

J’adore vos vidéo je pourrais les regarder toute la journée c’est vraiment bien fait !

[@RegentOfGreece]

Fantastic work, my friend! Really good job. ^_^ If I may ask a couple questions, what are the general Ideologies of each faction during and after ww2? Like, the West Allies are Democratic, and the Germans are Imperialist? Also, how come France was on Germany's side? Did they go through an Authoritarian coup or something? 😅

[@Italian_Mapper]

Well Germany still has the kaiser so they are an absolute monarchy i think, after ww1 Germany placed a German aligned government in France so thats why they are allies

[@RegentOfGreece]

@Italian_Mapper understandable. ^_^ Would you say Britain, Italy and Greece maintained Liberal Democratic governments as well?

[@Italian_Mapper]

Well they would have the government they had in real life so they are still monarchies but i'm not very informed to say which monarchy type

[@RegentOfGreece]

@Italian_Mapper that's perfectly fine, lol. :) Would you possibly be interested in a part two of sorts to explain their positions and ideologies? You don't have to if you don't want to

[@Italian_Mapper]

i cannut bru sorry dawg i only make maps

[@greatlakesfederation2033]

Petition for Italian Mapper to do WW1 Fuhrerreich 👇

[@Italian_Mapper]

Perhaps

[@greatlakesfederation2033]

@@Italian_Mapper wait really

[@UwU-xk5cx]

As a mexican, realistically at that point in time what would have happened is the moment Carranza declared war, basically any other of the other like 10 caudillos would have asked the US for support and taken power, then the anti american caudillos would have moved their armies to reignite the civil war again and it would have all devolved into full blown civil war for like the 12th time that century That aside I like the video, it's not one of those "then mexico joined and the central powers ended up marching on washington somehow"

[@j2e0l1l3y]

qual e la canzone usata nella parte della guerra patriottica?

[@Italian_Mapper]

guarda in descrizione c'è tutto

[@Official_Figsvtowy2]

Never Ask His Discord Members for a Emoji

[@DreadMaps.]

Yeah this super boosted mexico’s army

[@Byzantine_Vengance]

Thumbnail source?

[@TNDylan.]

Mexico couldn't of possibly pushed that far into the United States with the total disrepair their army was in in 1917, also they wouldn't of been able to hold onto the land that long either.

[@unknown12367]

Me at 1923: GREECE JOIN THE FUCKING REEEEED

[@ShamikKothare]

hello is me again oh and im back with more tips --- you did make teh font smaller gj --- 4:05 the army sizes addition was a great idea --- but why not put sizes for all fronts liek teh Fourth Balkan War and Italian Revolution --- siege and encirclement idea was good --- can u add the names like in Axis Victory: The Man in the High Castle? they look good --- is it just me or was this video a bit blurry than last --- oh and add the cities all in all great video

[@Italian_Mapper]

Thanks for coming with new critics and stuff, the army sizes was an experiment I still have to learn how to make them good and stuff, the maps are blurry because by zooming them in they lose quality so i'm not gonna do that again, but in the man in the high castle video there are no names so i dont understand that

[@ShamikKothare]

bro the names of coutries

[@Italian_Mapper]

Idk which names

[@AGamerthatregretsalot]

As a Guatemalan, this benefits us in just territorial regaining in the South Chiapas Coastline, as it originally wanted to stay with Guatemala but was occupied by the Mexican army all way back in the mid nineteenth century.

[@IamPyu-v]

This alternate history seems very interesting!

[@RorySmith-Dube-fm7ll]

They would loose, they didn’t because they knew that

[@VinoProduction192]

Weird fact: i actually comed looking at that anime girl💀💀💀💀💀

[@brubdub.]

bro

[@VinoProduction192]

@@brubdub. yes

[@SRP_Edits707]

SIMP

[@ishnenigans]

Dude.

[@LePineconeMan]

Excuse me?

[@rxdF]

good video bro from mexico

[@chillychile1985]

how did you get the map

[@nabakunlaismime5526]

4:04 what is this musics name??

[@Italian_Mapper]

check description

[@Berijo_bmmaNam-qm5tx]

Music name? Oh I forgot

[@nabakunlaismime5526]

@@Italian_Mapper no

[@bluegrassreb]

Reality... the US would now have about 65 states.

[@DublikoDublyc]

I didnt expect France to surrender, I think it’s a bit unrealistic (just my thoughts)

[@bocci103]

still some austrian dude will blow everything

[@Sleve_McDichael1]

Taco Land is no more.

[@xavierchapa7276]

NOOOOO😭😭😭😭

[@AeternusMaximus]

This scenario would only exist if A. Mexico didn't have a civil war and russia turned straight bolshevik in the first week, B. Mexico had a short civil war and russia had a short civil war, or C. mexico and bolsheviks literally got tripods

[@TemplarGamer56]

Kinda of a cope , this was the height of fun culture where families owned a ton of weapons and in some cases were more armed then some militaries. That invasion would inflict a lot of casualties and eventually would get push out .

[@Mapper_Space]

Can we get a sequel to this? I'm curious as to what happens next.

[@albaniapena8214]

If you love your followers do a second part❤❤❤

[@oseandepartmentofnarcotics]

No way the USA just annexes the northern part of Baja California. They would've taken it all

[@justacat2]

honestly i think mexico would have never pushed that far, maybe it would have advanced slightly then stagnated

[@claudiostudios9002]

…why is Kuruminha in the thumbnail?

[@Italian_Mapper]

idk

[@jhapethlloydciron3185]

I finnaly found the gravy, or sauce, idk

[@MarshyMellow1223]

Insane Mexican waifu in the thumbnail is just downright based

[@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd]

Brazilian Indigenous Mexican Waifu is the best thing I have ever seen in months

[@MarshyMellow1223]

@@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd Mhmm.

[@Cyxkarlse19-yv3ev]

Yes I love watching all anime girl

[@claudiostudios9002]

Her name is Kuruminha btw

[@MarshyMellow1223]

@@claudiostudios9002good to know

[@lyudmilaismayilova8937]

What happens after that? is ww3 happened or rest of century will remain peacefully @italian mapper

[@IrresponsibleChip]

Austria Hungary: Hey guys we just won the war!... Guys?... Guys!?

[@lapoza98]

This is actually the first video where I saw a Central American country declare war on the allied powers

[@lapoza98]

I meant on the allied powers side.

[@HyperVelocity_4YT]

What app did you use this could help a lot with my channel

[@Italian_Mapper]

I used paint .net

[@HyperVelocity_4YT]

@@Italian_Mapper oh thanks haha I don’t have a computer.😭

[@GunkShot111]

Call me down bad, but the thumbnail ain’t bad tho 😏

[@brubdub.]

tf??? i mean, you got me there, i was gonna call you down bad...

[@GunkShot111]

@@brubdub. I’m talking about the quality of the thumbnail flags, the uploader did a good job finding a high resolution image unlike the shitty 1p flags I see sometimes.

[@brubdub.]

@@GunkShot111 i mean you have a point

[@sebz447]

​@@GunkShot111sureee.... sureee...

[@SnakeonLSD]

This video is really great. For one, the USA has a hard time fighting Mexico, when Mexico was in the middle of a civil war and was outnumbered by the Americans 7 to 1. The USA in OTL went hogwild because Germany wrote one letter asking Mexico to attack America with a really dumb promise that obviously was not going to be fulfilled, but I guess America was only going to be offended by an attempt. Clearly, America only mobilized that much in OTL because they couldn't take the second-hand embarrassment. In fact, I even bet that the reason the British let that telegram through their system in the first place is because they were very nice people and they knew that it would be wrong to steal the Mexican Government's mail. After all, they wouldn't want someone to steal THEIR mail, would they? I also appreciated the fact that the Soviet Union declared war on Germany when not 5 fucking years ago the Soviet Union came to power almost entirely because they said they were not going to keep a disastrous war with Germany going. Then there's the fact that the Soviet Union actually does a good job in this war despite suffering extreme economic damage and losing what little industry they had in the west to Germany. Clearly, the Soviet Union would win this war through the magical properties Communists are known to possess (the one that also charms insecure 14 year old boys and makes people work hard without wage incentives). The only problem I had was with the army sizes. Those weren't 100% historically accurate, and I am deeply offended by that. Please fix that immediately.

[@wenger42]

Part 2?

[@Italian_Mapper]

Perhaps but we tired of ww2

[@albaniapena8214]

​@@Italian_MapperTechnically it would be the 3rd, and it would also be very epic to see a 2nd part. I loved the video.

[@andydufresnefromshawshank5866]

I’m even surprised that Mexico even made it that far. Even at the time Mexico was very weak in 1917

[@TGamesTmedia01]

Is anyone going to talk about the anime character in the thumbnail? No? Just me?

[@tencosiezastanawiap2992]

Yes. Just you.

[@claudiostudios9002]

Kuruminha is her name

[@MrsjulieMackay]

5:30 France And Belgium Would Turn on Germany at this point

[@HelperUTTP]

Nice vid

[@Byzantine_Vengance]

Thumbnail sauce?

[@MarshyMellow1223]

Kuruminha I think

[@CuriosityCornerYTShorts]

bro really said "Remember The Alamo"

[@nazilismaylova5901]

Is ww3 happen after in this timeline? Please answer my question Is soviets go to war with western allies and germany ? Please answer my question Note: im soory if my english bad

[@Italian_Mapper]

no they don’t 🔥🙏💥🙏🔥😹🙏👍🙏🙏😹😹🙏

[@franciscojavierdelatorreba3554]

I dont think the soviets would be prepared

[@IamthebarivarivonYouTube]

0:23 no one is talking about how it says defeatsc

[@gavinsepicgaming9835]

You severely overestimate the speed of ww1 army, germany couldn't reach paris mexico cannot reach any major city or actually take it once US army is there, also logistics

[@brocoli-he3sy]

bruh mexico fighting usa wouldnt make france capitulate and even less after only loosing paris

[@chadstrats2431]

The US would focus on Mexico first and not the Western front, allowing Germany to stall the Entente and harness resources in Ukraine. Even if Germany is unable to push deeper into France past 1918, the Entente would eventually sue for peace giving Germany a slightly favorable alternative.

[@ilariolee2911]

The Same Thing Happened As Ww1 In Our Universe 1914-1917 May And Kaiserreich 1917-1919

[@Крэйден_х]

Someday I, as a citizen of Russia will understand, why Western cartographers are CONFIDENT that the USSR can defeat German Empire. Yes, sure. After several years of civil war, political isolation, a destroyed economy and famine, the USSR would have defeated Germany, yes, yes, haha. This would have been an even faster defeat than Romania in 1916. Which, by the way, also turned out to be surprisingly strong.

[@Italian_Mapper]

Keep in mind Germany is having to fight with stretched supply lines and an unstable economy for a cause which is not linked directly to their fatherland

[@thegreatestoctopus9739]

​@@Italian_MapperThe cause is directly linked to the Fatherland tho? Like if they lose the east, the communist might aswell just march into Berlin. Not to mention the USSR got beat by Poland OTL, there is no way they win here

[@Agamingperson]

Guys, maybe mexico defeated the rebellions and cartels and stuff in the mexican civil war early and got to build up its army or smth

[@m.j.vazquez4720]

thats kinda what happand in france lots of fighting meant there was a lot of armed men that when united formed a very large army

[@ivangordienko8081]

Who is the girl in the thimbnail?

[@Italian_Mapper]

kuruminha i think

[@mongolianpeoplesrepublic]

i searched it and didn't found the results

[@Andry202]

Can u plz tell me how u make these videos plz?

[@Italian_Mapper]

with paint .net

[@Andry202]

Thanks

[@Iitalia0]

My son is learning so fast

[@Velaris01]

Nice mapping

[@Anonimus-bu8sk]

A frustrated painter named Diego Rivera returned from the front with resentment, he would enter politics and the rest is history. 🚬🗿

[@PyzhRav_SGP]

3:37 No territorial gift for Guatemala(((

[@Theth3]

I don’t think Britain would side with the Soviets. Even in our timeline they even favored the Nazis over the Soviets

[@neutronlighter]

before ww2, they did​@Mr_Lobsterr

[@thevickers7]

facts.

[@neutronlighter]

@Mr_Lobsterr the british thought that they could team up with germany to defeat the ussr, ofc before ww2 happened

[@Uhm-yea...0]

I dont think that the soviet union would try to get its land back because they just won the civil war and had to rebuilt russia like france and great britain while the central powers had 3 years for that

[@ThePatrioticTurtle]

I don’t think Italy would have fallen that fast

[@nobeeguyman5877]

whos the girl in the thumbnail

[@LuizFernandoDasilva-du1cd]

It's Kumirinha, a young brazilian indigenous girl symbol of the BRchan, but she is no more just an character of BRchan and is an well known meme now

[@ostiawey]

The soviets would've gotten crushed by the germans if they even dared to attack lmao

[@Gogeta-01-o2i]

Amrica said:it's not your time Lil buddy