What if Slaking Didn’t Have Truant? - Pokemon Red Solo Challenge

This one has been in the works since last year but we ask one simple question: Could Slaking without Truant dominate generation 1 like no other Pokemon can. The competition is steep and Mewtwo has set the bar high for these runs, but let's see how it plays out.
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[@ryangibson8727]

I love the name haha that back sprite really does look like him. Nice reference

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

I'm just glad people watch regular show. Such a good one!

[@Kanbei11]

Damn, slaking was powerful. I mean, nobody expected anything less but it was still great fun to see it go through the game like a knife through butter

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

It was like a knife through some still cold butter. It's no Mewtwo or Alolan Ninetales/Raichu but still decent. It fits right in with the other Emerald legendaries!

[@RobKni76]

Just popping in to claim my "real one" badge for this video. Fun run, man!

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Appreciate that, brother.

[@brianbell8074]

Love the back sprite GLM

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Thanks! I thought it was goofy enough to work.

[@KidOmega-iv4tp]

Realest of the Rea! You know!

[@AlleyinThrees]

I'm just waiting for the romhack where the only change is that TM28 really does contain the move Tombstoner.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Ha there’s a few vids on the channel where it was like that but it had this weird stutter problem. I think the Vulpix live video has it

[@adventureoflinkmk2]

21:49 TOMBSTONER, BROTHER

[@TEC-XX_619]

Slaking without Truant. May God help us all.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

I think it's slightly overrated after spending time with it but a cool concept.

[@Mega_Tron6891]

@@GymLeaderMatt1987now do regigigas with no slow start

[@reddragonpress]

Slaking-level extinction event 🚨 Hope to see Regigigas at some point in the future. It'll definitely be interesting to see how the two compare since they're fairly similar on the surface. Also, that backsprite is really nice!!

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Thanks! I worked a lot on this one. Hammer Arm specifically was something I went mad trying to get to work right. That just means we'll get to psycho boost in the future. Regigigas will be at some point but I guess you'll have to finish the video because I don't want to get spoilery, but I think they'll be similar.

[@aledjango]

If only Slaking had Tombstoner BROTHER

[@BmanTheChamp]

Brother

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Yea, don't forget the brother. That's half the damage.

[@aledjango]

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 Fixed it chief

[@sidj.6491]

Real one. Loved the back sprite, but the injured front sprite is even better.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Eyes wide open!

[@JustSpag]

so if you went for one more levvel instead, would the hammer arm/brock situation change? I definitely understand your reasoning on that segment, but maybe I'm just a reckless individual. I'd have brute forced the scenario.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

It just came from several tests. I tried early and I guess technically you could just reset the whole run over and over until it gets passed but it's a HIGH chance to fail. I'd like to at least be able to consistently get a battle started but lots of great Pokemon gotta pick up optionals early.

[@JustSpag]

@@GymLeaderMatt1987ahh! okay! there's no real substitute for just trying things out. the extra speed so you get in before the potential bide on turn 1 against onyxx didn't help?

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

It was a speed tie, that’s why I went for the less risky punishment opening and it worked out. Hammer Arm can’t one shot and I got a crit to take him down there but you have to soften it up a little. The extra levels also push you to damage rounding to get to mega punch a little faster. I tested alot and did 4 full runs on top of that. This was the only feasible way to get sub 2 hours that I saw.

[@JustSpag]

@@GymLeaderMatt1987youtube didn't notify me of the response @_@ I follow what you mean about that, yeahh.

[@samthewonderkid]

I’ve been waiting my whole life for this run.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Ha, I'll take the hyperbole.

[@fadeleaf845]

Goodra might be able to beat Mewtwo. Nearly the same special, good mixed stats, can brute force a lot of fights quickly with Outrage. It's a multi turn move, meaning you have less to click through and because it's neutral on almost everything, you skip the "It's super effective!" text box. White Kyurem has an even higher special, fantastic bulk and starts with Dragon Rage, meaning it could possibly also brute force a lot of fights. 120 Base Attack and access to Slash also lets it shred through the psychic types in the midgame.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

I've had my eyes on Outrage Goodra for a while now actually! After the Haxorus run it's something I have written down but just haven't had a chance to get to it, mainly because back then cross gen runs were plummeting in views and I didn't want to use my free time just to feel bad lol.

[@NoLimitSquad]

When i was a kid, i used to pronounce Slaking "Slake-King"

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

There’s a reason I extensively look through the anime for pronunciation these days. People are sticklers about it lol. See the original Kyogre video lol.

[@griifster99]

The realest one is the first one

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Midnight Spectrum Club is the real one!

[@chrisharvey3168]

It's the little time savings that give you first place in a race.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Going for the repeat, haha.

[@ritwikism]

Gym leader transitions looking goooddd

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Appreciate that! Tried to make them in line with my tier cards.

[@wilhelmisaac]

That champion transition synced up to the music was *chef’s kiss* perfect

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Very happy someone noticed that lol.

[@jackruby6696]

MY FAVORITE POKÉMON

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

What's #2? Weedle?

[@jackruby6696]

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 Farfetched and then combee. Weedle is like the combee of gen 1 :)

[@conorellisfitness]

Awesome how you can modify the game and incorporate some modern moves & later gen pokemon! Breaks up the monotony in an otherwise limited game, looking forward to future content!

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Nice. I got a ton of made ROMs. I used to do them on another program in 2021 but it was stale and not customizable so I took matters into my own hands.

[@Pomali1029]

Slacking dont be lacking lmao. Sorry brother, I am abroad and usually watch your videos on tv so no chance to comment. Still here though!!!

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

All good! Videos are forever!

[@gabr.7878]

Yo the music you picked for this absolutely slapped!!! I also love the art for the thumbnail!

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Thanks! I put in a little extra work on my music library in terms of levels/length and worked on the transitioning!

[@RobKni76]

On my 3rd watch through, and I always chuckle when you essentially say "there's no prize for beating Surge, aside from the really useful prize" lmao

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Lmao, glad you caught that. No one else said anything about it!

[@tigeryumyums9407]

Bro Slaking is my favorite Pokémon. I really wish he would get an alternate ability that isn't truant

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

It’ll never happen. That’s the gimmick of the Pokémon! Great stats but can’t really fully use them.

[@lukcdk]

i'm watching this one first, that's cool

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Nice.

[@PaulDavidsonDoodles]

As in the words of the 90s pop rock band Fastball, “In my enteral summer Slaking!”

[@vergillives9890]

Good stuff psuedo legendary beatdown

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Slaking does alright!

[@juliosmotivation3268]

This will be rad im excited

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

It was pretty cool!

[@Zz-_-]

Another "Mighty Joe" I didn't get a chance to appreciate this boss pokemon until I watch a vid that shows him rivaling classic Wario, you know when he called death a goomba and bitch slapped em

[@johngleeman8347]

That Slaking back sprite wandered in from Sesame Street. X3

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

That was part of the idea!

[@RobBomford]

Man I'm loving the music on these videos more and more, starting off with the Dudley theme has got me hyped af

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Thanks! I try to put a little extra into my music library the past few weeks from length, levels, etc.

[@thatturbotruck]

Tombstoner brother. I've done this run in ruby and changed the nature and slaking was a beast.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

It's great! Not the best but pretty good.

[@carl4889]

Finally a game where Slaking isn't worse than Vigoroth.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

I like Vigoroth a good bit.

[@joshframent9385]

Oh he's going to bonk some guys

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Bonk and scratch!

[@wilhelmisaac]

Babe, come quick - new GLM just dropped

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Lmao, best comment.

[@wilhelmisaac]

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 shhhh GLM is on

[@Nishtman420]

Damn bro I got my sodie pop and I’m ready to enjoy the vid👀

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Perfect. That's the best combination.

[@soph13s]

real one! this one was super fun. LOVE the back sprite

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Thanks! Unfortunately increasing the back sprite size has made me have to think different about the back sprites but it was pretty good.

[@loganoxendine9474]

I do like how he changed blastoise's sprite. The OG one just has him standing beefy lookin down at you like yo mama's boutta beat yo ass.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Ha, it's just green version sprites but I haven't watched the video in a while but I generally just use red/blue/green sprites.

[@veghesther3204]

It would be a great Pokemon and Regi GIGAS WOULD actually be playable the OTHER 3 Regi's would be impossible since in Gen 1 those 3 would I believe ONLY start with Explosion and nothing else.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Nah, they got some different learnsets in other generations. Regigigas would be good but about the same I feel.

[@veghesther3204]

I wasn't sure since in their original games Regi Rock/ice start at lv 30 but only started with Explode and nothing else.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Yea they aren’t possible in gen 3 but viable in other gens.

[@KidOmega-iv4tp]

That Slaking back sprite looks great

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Thanks, brother.

[@wijinsama]

We need Matt vs Mah Dry Bread vs Jrose vs Scott in a speedrun race! Their battle would be legendary!

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Scott has some race videos on his channel. I finished 1st in the last one, 2nd in the previous but I’d dumb myself down or do any stipulations to get in a Jrose video lol.

[@Zz-_-]

Skips, flopping on every pokemon in the SS Ann, sinking it and swimming with red standing on his back while Sruge has war flash backs causing him to throw the badge blocking the walkway with a sudowoodo running to lock his gym, was an amazing thought that must be a video on KZbin comment section if you make it happen I got you on your comment section, bet

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Perfect!

[@kevindudson2344]

Imagine Slaking with SD. That would be abuse of the E4.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

It doesn’t need it. I mean it no healed/no elixir’d it as is. The top runs don’t use badge boosting moves in vanilla. They just rely on stats.

[@tylerd1297]

Don't even need it. With 95 Special there's nothing it can't break through

[@raziyatheseeker]

The lazy Muppet gets his act together and beats face, that's what. Cool back sprite. :D I've played Gen 3 the least, but I like the concept of Slaking being incredibly strong, only nerfed by skipping every other turn. That Saffron speed skip was also cool to learn, I would've never considered that proc of getting the city as a Fly spot. With the bronze medal for cross-gen runs, I'd say this dad bod sloth has been proven to be a #realone.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

It was pretty good. That Mewtwo bar is set pretty high! There's also a ton of little things like that I try to pick over in every video. They are things that most people don't think about but overworld movement, item management, and being efficient with fly add up to mean almost as much as the route itself.

[@Jtb1122own]

I prefer Icebeam over blizzard. simply because i'd rather have the 100% accuracy with good damage, rather than more power and less accuracy.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

It's a good move but I think it's a little too cautious and safe to say there's a huge difference between 90% accuracy and 99.6~ accuracy. There's numbers to back up why but things like the Golbat range just add up to save you a little time. I guess it's just personal preference to if an extra 25 base power is worth only hitting 9 out of 10 times but Blizzard is probably the best damaging move in gen 1. There's a reason it was nerfed in gen 2!

[@Ch3k0v]

Nice Regular Show reference 🙌

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Not a great show, just pretty regular.

[@mattulibarri6181]

#realone. I do have a slaking story. Might be boring for you but I have a save file for black and white and I have a team with slaking and a pokemon that can suppress his ability. I don't remember if it even worked that well but I remember thinking slakings stats were nuts. Cool run! Love the content thanks GLM!

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

The forever search to make it not suck lol.

[@sillymarthinigaming2275]

Reel Wan 😂 woot 🎉 i love these videos, they help me through my working days, so i can wonder and think about pokemon out of their respective gens and which ones really mess everything up 😂

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

There’s about a thousand to wonder about these days lol.

[@SmashMath151]

Real one, because Slaking is unreal! I wonder how much time Slash and Play Rough from the BSDP learnset could shave off to make the early game even more dominant.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Man, I didn't really look at BDSP because it's BDSP but it does have slash. I might have to do a stream sometime in the future. I don't think it would push it to the very top but at least maybe to 2.

[@tonyyu6153]

Real one, I was so worried that the time will be over 2 hours, but 1hr 58mins, thats good enough. Mewtwo is just too dominating and expected Slaking will not beat the Mewtwo time

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

That's why I did 4 runs. I couldn't get this one below 2 hours the first 3 times but was happy with this one. I'm convinced outside of the blizzard mishap this is about as fast as it gets.

[@robertsudduth9713]

Slaking is one of my faves! Only a real one like you could do it so much justice

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

It was pretty good! I think it starting with a stronger normal move would be the only thing to push it to the top.

[@Reeves89]

Love your videos GLM ❤. So glad you made this 👍

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Glad you watched it!

[@SoraDonaldGoofy99]

Always happy to be a real one, Matt. Slaking was righteously good.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

It's up there but a little short of the best!

[@TheVilefiend1]

Been waiting for this 😁

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Hope it was worth the wait!

[@joshgregory1763]

Blastoise saw thunderbolt and all the fight he had left his soul...all the real ones pay respect to Blastoise for taking a thunderbolt to the dome 🙏

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Ha, as if it had a choice. I could tell it wanted to hit a freeze proc.

[@IrrelevantPride]

Tombstoner brother!!

[@IrrelevantPride]

Well that's what slaking is gonna be dropping this run

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Appreciate that!

[@Mr-Eleven]

When slaking doesn't have truant, every problem just looks like a nail while you hold your hammer

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

I redid it on stream last Sunday for a big improvement!

[@TigerFestival1988]

I'm not surprised that Slaking didn't pass Mewtwo, but despite being behind Mewtwo it still did as well as I expected it too. So excellent job Slaking and real one.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

I think Regigigas will be about the same, tbh. Maybe slightly better.

[@TigerFestival1988]

Oh! I'm really looking forward to that!@@GymLeaderMatt1987

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

That one will be much later. Focusing on wrapping up September and then Shedinja.

[@tonyn7560]

It was cooling seeing you destory the E4 like that BROTHER. Great work.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Thanks! This one felt about as optimized as it gets.

[@seaweedstarfy]

Love the Regular Show reference

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Love that you noticed, haha.

[@seaweedstarfy]

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 I'm a huge huge regular show fan so of course the minute I see a big strong gorilla with Skips' name I immediately assume the best 😊

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

I tried to get the likeness in the thumbnail!

[@avoidmelz]

if slaking didn't have truant it would be better than 99% of sudos and even some legendaries

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

The goal is to find out! I wasn't too impressed in the video and someone pointed out the BD/SP learnset so I streamed a couple of runs shortly after.

[@zacharyheflin6794]

I mean maybe some section might be a little slow going but once his attack is high enough I imagine he’ll just steam roll the opposition.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Nostradamus level prediction there, haha.

[@Aaron.Seabolt]

Watched this after watching the new episode of Bleach. Nearly an hour of perfection. 👌

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Sounds like a good hour!

[@Zz-_-]

😂Bruh, Skips 🤣 I'm glad I waited to watch this, brilliant

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

I redid it on stream a little bit ago with some improvements. It was much better there. You might like that!

[@gambleralex5083]

Real one as always

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Appreciate that, brother.

[@kelsirocheck9455]

I love that you named him Skips! 😂 love your channel!

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Top tier nickname that’s even better because people understand the reference!

[@mmpsp693]

Great video

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Thanks!

[@Ch3k0v]

That's a damn nice back sprite, btw. Some of your best work

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

I think so too. Hopefully I haven’t peaked lol.

[@JimXUltima]

I thought of Face Mcshooty when you brought up the thunderbolt to the dome

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Not intended but a good reference!

[@TheMoogleKing93]

Great idea for a back port. I imagine he's about to obliterare the game.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

He does alright!

[@KnuxMaster368]

11:05 honestly it looks like the Abominable Snowman or Bigfoot to me still very fitting for this mon

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Abomasnow! Lol.

[@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441]

can u do venomoth for red, crystal, emerald, and the other games if possible :o

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Yea, I'll do 47 Venomoth playthroughs next week.

[@mukariz]

Real one! I loved the muppet back sprite. Slaking did about as well as I imagined without Truant holding it back.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Below the Mewtwo bar, but still alright.

[@Greymangamer]

Thanks for another great video man! It was a Real One!

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Appreciate that, brother.

[@Polyphony1987]

Great run!

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Thanks! Appreciate that.

[@dirtyden1]

Who's your favourite Gen1 Gym leader?

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

I'm not sure I have a favorite but hardest? Brock for sure.

[@roymerkel8008]

Pleased to see that Alolan ninetails beat Mewtwo -- for some reason I'm gravitating towards Vulpix and Ninetails being my favorite pokemon (yeah, the bog standard versions aren't super good, but I like an underdog story, and LOVE the astetics of thos guys). Though Alolan Ninetails was to be expected in the end due to an extremely good typing plus excellent initial movelist and overall excellent learn set.

[@roymerkel8008]

right now looks the only only one who did (baring Slow King doing super well -- which, right now, after Brock, seems like a REAL possibility)

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Yea it’s hard to get over the Mewtwo bar. It’s slow leveling group holds it back but for a vanilla run, hardly anything past, future, or present can get can get close.

[@haunter5271]

Nice run. Kinda miss that jazz outro though haha

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Man, I think that things been gone for the better part of a year. I'm trying to be concise, lessen the workload, and just make a better overall video. Analytics said it had to go!

[@KidOmega-iv4tp]

Sodie pops up!!

[@alexrobinet7576]

Rainbow metal pidgeon came in clutch. ❤

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

I was glad he reached out! I will say I reached out again a few weeks ago and he just ignored me lmao. You win some, you lose some.

[@Thrillin_Chillin_Drillin]

Slaking trades Truant for gen1 Amnesia

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Unified special, a blessing and a curse.

[@stevensheldon1748]

Real one

[@blakeschwab7518]

this thing might actually compete with mewtwo

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Better be focused on Ninetales and Raichu these days. I redid this one on stream for better results though.

[@Aaron-pj9cm]

Great video Matt as always

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Appreciate you watching, brother.

[@zerodelgato3842]

Just found the channel love the accent brother

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Thanks! Hope you enjoy!

[@She_fw_Tez]

Catching the playback with a sodi pop

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Perfect.

[@Lechung69]

Dude what was the name of the first song?

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Dudley's theme from Street Fighter!

[@Tsunderebolt]

this is the weirdest regular show episode I've ever seen

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Nah, normal Regular Show is much weirder lol.

[@andytaker3073]

Real one, Brother

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Appreciate that a ton, brother.

[@andytaker3073]

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 It's all good, brother

[@sartrisbt]

what a beast. all hail unified special.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Both a blessing and a curse.

[@maxtornogood]

Slaking is a bulldozer in Gen 1!

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

It was alright! Not the best but I plan on redoing it on stream soonish. I think I left a little on the table.

[@lamiaprincess6371]

Every time I remember Slaking in Generation I I think about an old Smogon article about bad Pokemon in Gen I, and how good Slaking would be competitively. This always fakes me out into thinking it learns Slash outside of Egg moves XD. Sadly Slash is Egg Move only but one of these days I want to do that run myself, just to see the sheer raw power that Slaking's Slash would have to its back. This was still a super good run though. I know a lot of people want to see Regigigas in all of its glory, but you know what I want to see? I want to see the true titan among the golems. I want to see the Chansey rule stretched to its absolute limit. I want to see that 200 Special with Amnesia and BoltBeam. Will 50 base Speed hold it in check? Who knows, but I really want to see Regice tear through this game. As always, real one.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Hmm, it learns both of those? Goodra is also a good candidate. Umbreon too but I did a Sanqui knock off version and it wasn’t great but I got to do the Crystal version one soon.

[@lamiaprincess6371]

@@GymLeaderMatt1987 Yeah Regice gets Amnesia and Ice Beam via level-up and Thunderbolt via TM, with Ice Beam being at Level 24 and Amnesia at Level 36.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

36 is a little late but it could be solid. It might be a while before I get to it though. I try to do the cross gen runs more sparingly since the summer and not ‘force’ myself to do much since it’s just a hobby and burnout is a bitch.

[@realperson69]

Good job on the back sprite. 👍

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Thanks. I wanted something goofy but effective.

[@ff7omega]

I always refer to it as its disability

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

It makes a lot of sense lol.

[@wakingup4206]

Love the vid and the backsprite

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Thanks, brother, appreciate that.

[@gutherford007]

Real one. Great video as always!

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Appreciate that, brother.

[@Xavier.Villa.]

Dudley theme now?? Nice!!

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

I use it every stream!

[@foodruct]

A fantastic cross gen run as usual GLM you are a real one brother

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

I try my best!

[@jackruby6696]

Lol slaking does look like skips

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Near identical lol.

[@papershirt3706]

Top-Tier back sprite.

[@GymLeaderMatt1987]

Appreciate that, brother.