What if the Muslims Kept Spain?

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

Wanted to remake this for a long time. The Reconquista fundamentally shifted the world, and I wanted to explore in detail a full alternate world where it never happens. Apologies on taking so long, this script took a while. I also have a second channel now. I talk about pointless stuff, like Battle LA, if you remember that. If you just like hearing me talk about stuff then check it out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXnOlpekepyHhs0

[@Sammyfarel]

Good job brother love from Pakistan ❤️🇵🇰

[@ikira2464]

Man this channel is ravaged with bots

[@Jay2646]

I just watched the original the other day! A lot of your older stuff is super-duper interesting, and I'd love to see a good chunk of it be remade with higher production quality!

[@ommsterlitz1805]

Please do the same for Coptic Egypt if it stayed Christian

[@remenir97]

@@ikira2464 you’re telling me, minute after I commented, I got a stupid bot.

[@Butter_Warrior99]

Oh goodness, this would definitely make a different America.

[@alexjv1370]

How so?

[@jeffreyli7421]

@@alexjv1370 most of the Americas speak Spanish

[@ommsterlitz1805]

@@jeffreyli7421 You mean French in the video he say that France and Uk speaks French and are the same country so obviously the combined countries could spread much further in americas

[@zakback9937]

@@alexjv1370 Ideologies, values, religions etc. Instead of Liberalism and Secularism. It'd be Sharia Law possibly.

[@seandawson5899]

@@zakback9937 I don't think because modern Moraco followed sharia law that means that it's necessarily what would happen in the America's. The Moroccan empire was reasonably tolerant.

[@SpaceMonkeyBoi]

The British: **land in America** The natives: "Salam, habibi" The British: "wtf"

[@Avicerox]

This would be cursed yet very interesting.

[@Bolter024]

The natives: "Wallah walllah, mashallah" 😂

[@tekmilletbirummet4808]

@@Avicerox Habibi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Avicerox]

@@tekmilletbirummet4808 Akhi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its nice to see you!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@takumifujiwara2951]

The British: go back we got to go back!!!

[@jamesjung6215]

This scenario has been recreated in 2022 in the form of Morocco beating Spain and Portugal in the World Cup

[@shine0018]

Wtf👵🏿

[@Zycore1]

And then losing to France

[@GermanicWorldOrder]

And then Battle of Tours 2-0💀🇫🇷

[@NA-AN]

@@GermanicWorldOrder Your pfp makes little sense to me.

[@GermanicWorldOrder]

@@NA-AN And I don't need your approval for whatever I put as my pfp

[@Leivve]

So the thing about Asturias is "go around the mountains" wasn't a thing. The reason Asturias survived is cause there were no roads into it, and there were no roads because it was such a hard to get to back water that even the romans couldn't be bothered to build them. Though in hindsight it was the correct move, were you in the sultan's court and were urging him to cross over, you would have been dismissed from the court for incompetence, and expedition like that would have easily gone badly, and if it did that would have caused the entire kingdom to fall apart.

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

Quite true. My original point was more to just remove Asturias from the question. Mountains/roads were the main factor as to why the Muslims couldn't take it, and I probably should have worded that better. This is already a tentative scenario as it is, considering how unlikely it'd be the Muslims could have kept Spain. Appreciate the insight.

[@ahmadsultan4643]

Could Naval invasion work

[@stevenfasano6673]

@@ahmadsultan4643 i would think a medival beach landing would have worked as long as the muslims had enough troops to make an actual beach head

[@Ali-bu6lo]

Maybe if Muslims win Battle of Covadonga, the death all remaining Visigoth nobility will be enough of a blow to cause Asturias to fall apart and be gradually taken over?

[@dragon_ninja_2186]

Well Cody did say it was unrealistic but Asturias needs to be removed/weakened somehow. So I guess alien space bats.

[@ZendikarMage42750]

This feels a lot like trying to predict the entire course of the rest of a Crusader Kings game after playing for 50 years, heh heh

[@thebutzel9752]

I would say it’s exactly like trying to predict a CK game’s end result

[@thelordofcringe]

I can't predict the next ten years of a Crusader Kings game at this point. One moment byzantium will conquer everything up to the Chinese border, the next minute they're in a civil war against jews, the next minute the whole of Northern Europe belongs to Croatia.

[@TheUrobolos]

Most CK2 games usually ends up with either Sunnis or Catholics devouring the entire map tho, so there is a form of predictabily. Which one usually depends on the start dare. The earlier the date, the most likely Sunnis will snowball (especially after decadence was made a non-factor patch after patch). The more you start forward, closer to the Crusades unlock, the more likely Catholics will snowball instead

[@arya.n.8252]

I don't think this is a prediction rather he just recite what happened during his play session

[@wizdabaws2793]

Literally playing a mega-campaign from CK2 Halfdan White Shirt start right now. One thing led to another and now the British Empire is more of a European Empire.

[@Joseph-xg8vi]

I spent several months living in Granada. It's a truly amazing city with rich history and beautiful architecture, yet somehow most people have never even heard of it. It's a must for Spain IMO.

[@muhammadabyzard7970]

Tell em about Ford Granada, then. 😂😂

[@Husro_History_962]

Yep Ive also been there

[@tverdislavrolensky3597]

I lived in a Granada for a while. Wasn't bad until the floors rusted out

[@AlMuqaddimahYT]

3:13 Hey! I'm on TV!

[@Ali-sj7kx]

I really like ur videos, keep it up

[@TimouOfConstantine]

Say hello to the camera

[@Raf15151]

I love your profile picture

[@thismuricanboi7869]

This would be a tragedy for Spanish Inquisition memes.

[@hellothere9407]

I did not expect this outcome

[@goroakechi6126]

@@hellothere9407 No one ever does!

[@seandawson5899]

A big win for the thousands that died tho

[@releca3735]

No one except the Sharia police !

[@rc59191]

It would just be changed to those sharia patrols and secret police checking to make sure men's downstairs hair were cut to the appropriate measurements.

[@thebakerofbananabread3237]

"Hey Cody, what if Moors held Spain?" "French Dialects" "Wow, what else?" "The Dutch are deleted" "What about things in Al Andalus, could they get to the new world?" "There can be only one Caliphate... Also yes but I'll discuss that later." "Yes!"

[@jihadi-against-oppression]

islam is the only true religion ☪️😍

[@Sub-om7hq]

@@jihadi-against-oppression not really

[@sebastianbarros8916]

no

[@Muhammad-ben-wael]

​Duh it is, whether you like it or not

[@Omar-Coronel]

@@jihadi-against-oppression meh

[@spencerjacobsen329]

“This all just seems like an elaborate way to make sure the Dutch don’t exist.” Lmao

[@laynaTheLobster]

An admirable and noble objective

[@elemperadordemexico]

History with Hilbert wants to know your location

[@isyraf9989]

Probably Dutch become part of Germany

[@hendrikdependrik1891]

A successful Al-Andalus is just a way for Moroccans to troll Wilders supporters.

[@TSGC16]

@@hendrikdependrik1891 Hahahaha binnenkort al-Hollandalus

[@aaronmarks9366]

Damn, when you really think about it, this really is one of the most consequential PODs in history, as Cody mentions. So much of the modern world in this timeline would be unrecognizable without the Catholic Iberian monarchies, the protestant reformation, and the European colonization of the Americas. Mind-blowing.

[@Zenmasterslim]

Cody: "In this alternate timeline, even without the Portuguese, somebody eventually would find the America's, but that is for another time." Me: "Sequel?" Cody: "And yes this is a two part-er." STOP READING MY MIND CODY.

[@Jordaniantrex]

Nein

[@meneither3834]

Western Europe was bound to find America (Newfoundland) by following the Cod fishing spots.

[@GmodPlusWoW]

I'm certainly eager to hear what this alternate Age of Discovery would yield. Presumably "Latin America" as we know it would instead be more of an "Islamic America", which would certainly have strong ideological ramifications in the long run.

[@mattpienk6300]

@@GmodPlusWoW imagine taking Arabic in school instead of Spanish

[@jonnunn4196]

In fact, the Vikings beat out Columbus by centuries.

[@valritz1489]

Another possible historical tangent: With a strong al-Andalus providing a counterweight to Ottoman Turkish rule of the Islamic world, it might be that the fight over the spice trade becomes more about a fight over Egypt than a search for a route to India around back of the world. al-Andalus tries to secure Egypt as an alternate route for the Silk Road, the Ottomans try to stymie them, and it turns into a political clusterfuck. Moreover, canal projects to connect the Mediterranean and Red Sea were floated a couple times in history, but maybe it's this fight between the Western and Eastern Caliphates that provides the necessary motivation. If the focus stays on the canal and it gets built, suddenly that's the new fulcrum of the world's trade... Which allows me to play my true endgame card, NEVERENDING GOLDEN AGE OF PIRACY BABY. Pirates of the Aegean! Mediterranean island-hopping, hidden ports of call all through Malaysia, Blackbeard with a turban! It's all coming up pirates!

[@dinomar7818]

It will definitely be easier for the ottomans to take egypt

[@mxyellowo]

Also we should include that Al Andalus and Abbasids had rivalry against each other so Abbasids allied with Franks while Al Andalus allied with Byzantines. And we already know Ottomans were allied with France. So this would've mean that Al Andalus would either ally with Austria or Commonwealth.

[@aphato2770]

Blackbeard with a turban. I mean there is already Redbeard with a Turban

[@rocket_sensha4337]

Plotwist?!

[@adityapf9753]

H-How about the Venezia then? Anyway, this scenario (Golden Age of Mediterranean Pirate) would be a cool concept for novel or game

[@shelbyandrews9749]

I think it's awesome you remade this. I hope your other videos get the same treatment. Not saying they are terrible or anything, but there is nothing wrong for with going over something when you're skills improve

[@HappyHog11]

Two empires, both claiming to be the true Empire, positioned on opposite ends of the Mediterranean with growing reasons to dislike each other? It’s Rome all over again, just Islamic this time.

[@ahmadsultan4643]

The Abbasid and the Ummayed had stronger version of this rivalry

[@levitschetter5288]

I've seen this one before it's a classic

[@igorokinamujika2073]

@@ahmadsultan4643 The caliphate of Cordoba was ruled by Ummayads. When the Abbasids took power, the last Ummayad fled to the Iberian Peninsula.

[@josesandoval1440]

Just like how the even though the Muslims ottomans conquered eastern rome the eastern Mediterranean vs Persia/Iran continued

[@yoghurtmaster1688]

Caliphate is not exaclty an empire they simply both claim to be holy leaders of all islam Just imagine 2 popes figthing eachother

[@Pendraig1400]

England when they win against France but become french in the process: *I’ve won but at what cost*

[@Edax_Royeaux]

They are forced to eat fine cuisine?

[@jaredbullock5366]

@@Edax_Royeaux I do like cuisses de grenouille but I’ve never had Escargot

[@jakeaurod]

Do the vikings still go a-viking?

[@sergiowinter5383]

@@Edax_Royeaux Italian food is superior, can't beat pasta, pizza and lasagna. But the french know desserts and wine for sure

[@mikealexandre3464]

You forgot the most important fact. Without Portugal, there is no Catherine of Bragança, No Catherine of Bragança, there is no introduction of Tea to England. Without Tea in England, there is no civilized western world.

[@frankdecron1306]

I miss your old white back ground. Nostalgic for me man. Sorta like my childhood. I remember when you posted videos and you didn’t speak and it was like a slide show. I think it was like what if Germany won WW2 or won the Battle of Britain. A looooong time ago. But you should redo the rome series if you are redoing videos.

[@biharek7595]

Ha has already redone the Rome series actually. And I recommend you watching it, it's really great. Btw great profile picture 🇦🇹👑🇭🇺

[@marvelfannumber1]

@@biharek7595 No he did't. He did "What if Rome never existed", which is very different from "what if Rome never fell"

[@biharek7595]

@@marvelfannumber1 oh... sorry, my bad

[@frankdecron1306]

@@biharek7595 thanks lol

[@Arkantos1900]

I think Andalusia would heavily antagonize the Ottomans: they would threaten their title of Caliph, and also advance into the Mediterranean Isles for control. Probably the Mamluks would ask for andalusian help to remain independent, or Andalusia would ally with European states to combat the Ottomans, like the Battle of Lepanto.

[@johnmaulana7027]

What I see will be almost the same thing happened between Safavid Persia and Ottoman. This scenario will have both Ottoman Empire and Al Andalus will always have constant Battle for North Africa especially area around Algeria today. Just like Ottoman-Safavid War that always fought around their border and modern day Iraq And if there will be Alliance it will also like this Ottoman ally with France and Al Andalus Ally with Austria or Hungry (well depend who the great power in this scenario.)

[@Thanatar13]

Probably just like OTL, we'd also see a incredibly strong French-Ottoman relationship, but this time with a competing Hapsburg-Andalusian counterpart.

[@johnmaulana7027]

@@Whatareyoudoinnhere Its depends tho who controls Algeria if Andalus can somehow defeat Ottoman and defend Algeria. But what certain tho I can see Al Andalus rule Morocco even tho I would 100% sure they have full control of the north of Morocco instead and have less control or not even under their rule south of Morocco. based on their OTL history that they once only rule the north to stop Fatimid Caliphate expansion

[@Arkantos1900]

Also another important thing happening is that the influx of jews and moriscos that were scholars, doctors and more academics the Ottomans received wouldn't happen... since you know, no Spanish Inquisition

[@othmanbettach2665]

@@johnmaulana7027 it's the other way around, morocco controled al andalus for so long and they'd do the same in that different timming

[@gretarreynisson3280]

18:56 Sailors: Ocean: *You’re going to Brazil*

[@avantelvsitania3359]

Very interesting video, although as a Portuguese it’s always when someone uses “Spain” when in reference for the whole Peninsula. Iberia, or even Hispania would be better. One interesting aspect is that the Christian “states” that emerge in the Reconquest, are based on the heterogeneous cultural substratum of the Peninsula, meaning that they are political reflections of local identities. It’s well likely that even if Muslim rule was maintained, distinct cultures would emerge in the Northeast and Northwest, analogous to Galicia-Portugal and Aragon-Catalonia. It’s very probable that political autonomies would emerge here as well, even becoming independent like in our timeline, just in a Muslim version like “Ghalisyya” and ‘“Arajun”. About the fact that this timeline denies the existence of the Netherlands as we know it. Well, there is another factor. Muslim Iberia was more tolerant to other religions. In our timeline, the Jews were expelled in the XVI century, many migrating precisely to the Netherlands, were they helped finance the emerging Dutch colonial empire. If Iberia had remained Muslim, the Netherlands would probably never become the financial powerhouse they were in our timeline. Finally I would just despite the claim the 80% of Al-Andalus was Muslim. The elites were, but the population remained largely Christian, although they followed their own rites. They were called the Mozarabs.

[@thedragon5413]

Nah bro most were Muslim and yes they did use mozoarabic but the majority were untill like 1100

[@shinsenshogun900]

The Netherlands of that timeline would just be a disunited provinces of German, French, Flemish, Walloon, Frisian, and Burgundian fiefdoms

[@TOBAPNW_]

@@shinsenshogun900 yeah but what would the Netherlands of that timeline be? 😂

[@Charlietolemy]

@@shinsenshogun900 german*. Both belgium and Netherlands remain part of the holy Roman empire, and will continue speaking dialects of german until germany eventually unifies. The spanish empire habsbrug split will ot happen.

[@Charlietolemy]

Your right, there will be some autonomous provinces and the population would follow a very mixed faith, with majority being Muslim folowed by Christian and Judaism. The Netherlands would most likely never become the powerhouse of became in our timeline, instead this will further help cordóba.

[@enternamehere4124]

I always love when people Talk about the iberian peninsula

[@matthewlong7547]

The most least most important part of Europe

[@jjgf8412]

@@matthewlong7547... Thanks?

[@jihadi-against-oppression]

We moors will come back again

[@Spoopy_man]

@@jihadi-against-oppression only by immigration.

[@Connor-o9q]

@@jihadi-against-oppression that history is long gone!! Muslims were never true Spainards in the first place

[@ianmessiter5564]

I'm hyped for part two! Bgreat video!

[@GroundBack]

I'm normally not here this fast. But considering the algorithm messed you up last time, you better believe I'm gonna try my best to support you this time!

[@byzantium0086]

If the Muslims kept Spain surely their would be no nude beaches out their!

[@NihlusKryik]

Brave to assume Henry VIII wouldn’t just have a different wife he’d want to divorce

[@prcervi]

with how much random chance was left up to that point, even odds that he even gets the throne in the first place(and all that snowballs from that point onward)

[@savioblanc]

Annulments happened all the time. No doubt Henry VIII would have likely had one But the Pope would likely have accepted it It's just that in our timeline, Catherine of Aragon happened to be the aunt of the most powerful European king at the time, who just happened to be occupying Rome and keeping the Pope hostage

[@aaronmarks9366]

If so much had happened from the 8th century onwards to the point that the Hundred Year's War of the 14th-15th century never happens, then you can bet there's no Wars of the Roses, no Tudor takeover, and no Henry VIII.

[@beeaggro2593]

There likely wouldn't be a Henry VIII at all since there wouldn't be a Tudor takeovers as the Tudors wouldn't even exist

[@masonivanov]

Video idea: During the movie "The Final Countdown (1980)" an aircraft carrier travels back in time to the day of the attack on pearl harbor. At the end of the movie, the carrier returnes to its own time. What if, instead, the carrier stayed back in 1941? How would this have affected the war?

[@joaobaptista320]

About how french would become the 'Upper Class Launguage' - It already was. Monarchs from all Western and central europe spoke French. Just like non English people naturally say "OK", Royals and nobility would speak french has the "fancy launguage". It was only in a post-Congress of Vienna(Or dare I Say late 1800s) that English become more widely spoken, mostly due to the Industrial Revolution. We still use some french, like "Coup d'ètat". Why? Because it's damn fancy and makes us seem smart. And that was exactly why the nobility spoke french: To draw a line, clearly marking themselves as superiors.

[@RabbitShirak]

Lingua franca anyone?

[@straydogswagger4280]

You're absolutely correct. In fact, during a large stretch of Russian history, the Russian aristocracy spoke French instead of Russian. They literally needed translators to speak with their own peasants

[@sergiowinter5383]

French sounds gay, I'm happy English is the language of the world. I prefer Latin and Greek of course but English is a solid choice

[@RabbitShirak]

@@sergiowinter5383 Eh, english grammar rules are messed up. Then again, numbers in french are just bizarre.

[@GATE12]

Check my channel for a reply to this video.

[@angusyang5917]

Cody actually brought up a pretty important here: dynastic linages. Europe's royal families since the time of Charlemagne are heavily intertwined in that all of the royal families are related through generations of intermarriage. In modern-day Europe, the last common ancestor of all current monarchs is Johan Willem Friso, Prince of Orange, and his wife, Marie Louise of Hesse-Kassel, who only lived ~300 years ago. If any of Europe's kingdoms and dynasties were to somehow disappear off the map, then entire successions and lineages would be shifted and changed, and countless marriages and descendants would not exist.

[@angusyang5917]

@@anomonyous Yeah, after a couple hundred years, all of Europe's families became related. By the time of the 17th and 18th centuries, it was either marry a cousin, or enter a morganatic marriage and risk losing your titles and lands for your descendants.

[@uveantonio4094]

good date

[@ne0tic]

How about an ''What if the Swedish Empire didn't go to Moscow and instead looked south'' video? Would be interesting I think and you could look at the ''Pax Swedeanica'' alternate timeline for some inspiration :)

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

Here is an interesting idea: What if the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom had survived long-term?

[@angusyang5917]

The Century of Humiliation would have still marched on regardless.

[@mshaqed2538]

Probably a swift collapse after the founder died, meaning an earlier warlord era. Also, the Taiping would attempt to modernize China, and while they will fail, it would still allow it to develop early, meaning that it might just have a shorter century of humiliation. Oh, and the warlord era would cause a scramble for China by the Europeans, with all the major power backing a few contestants in an attempt to outmaneuver their rivals. This would probably cause an early world war since Russia would annex or vassalize all of the north, causing Britain and Japan to panic, while the heated competition would give the Europeans a lot of opportunities to fight against each other. Oh, and the Taiping might just create a massive "Christian" minority in China, which would alter the whole nation in various different ways.

[@descalzitao6779]

The Taiping (like most Chinese millenarist insurrections) were insanely unstable, having no real societal organisation besides warfare and relying solely on the charisma of Hong Xiuquan. If they eventually did managed to overthrow the Qing (which they could never unless they have either outside support or other rebellions happening at the same time and joining them), the only two logical outcomes would either be : 1. China fell into chaos as absolutely no one would recognize the weak Taiping state as legitimate, plunging the country in an early warlord era. 2. Someone at the Taiping court that wasn't absolutely crazy manages to take power and consolidate the country, removing all crazy elements from society (first and foremost getting rid of Christianity) and establishing a "regular" Chinese dynasty that could actually have some chance of surviving. However, China is only weakened by this so the century of humiliation carries on and probably intensifies. I could see for example the Japanese managing to push their "twenty-one demands" on China in this timeline. Finally I don't think the Taiping would actually help China to modernize, on the contrary while they were "Christian", they also were incredibly xenophobic and traditionalistic, rejecting foreign influences on China. If anything, they would have pushed Chinese isolationism even further.

[@guillermoelnino]

what about if taiwan retook west taiwan with us help?

[@raptorfromthe6ix833]

jesus would be proud obviously

[@GeneralLuigiTBC]

8:21 Cody: The English language as we know it fundamentally changes in such an important period of development. Book in the background animation: Я--русская книга.

[@acro6841]

YESSS I LITERALLY HAD THIS ON MY WISH LIST THANK YOU SO MUCH CODY

[@deron2203]

Granada one of my favorite eu4 playthroughs. I would recommend people to try out ante bellum if you'd like to have this somewhat similar experience of Iberia being Muslim at the start date.

[@AdamNoizer]

I love Ante Bellum.

[@jaroslawkaras7347]

@Klunteng Full,,,, 👇😍 yeah your definatly some random bot yeah nice try how about you go to Phub to do that

[@m.thorton9305]

and change the andalusian tech into western of course

[@AdamNoizer]

@@m.thorton9305 Or just get Quality ideas 😎

[@m.thorton9305]

@@AdamNoizer hey i want muslim cavalry in the style of european knight, not some curved sword from turkified east

[@TheDanEdwards]

"Somebody would eventually find the Americas" - the Polynesians. If Andalus was even a century later than our own timeline in sailing to the New World, chances are the Polynesians may have set up establishments on the west coast of South America.

[@LautaroArgentino]

Polynesians did reach America before Europeans did. There's evidence of trade, particularly with Andean cultures.

[@gabbo7101]

there is already evidence that the polynesians had already touched into the americas. The thing is, either way, their presence wouldnt be nearly as impactful as eventual european colonization. Though, spain's original intention with the native americans was to set up trade routes, so there is a possibility that if cortez doesnt do a cortez, the central american kingdoms and the like would have been around for a bit longer, and their cultural presence would be more considerable.

[@Lustratic85]

You cant find something thats been already found, that be like me going to japan and say i found this place because the inhabitants of this place dont look like me.

[@LautaroArgentino]

@@gabbo7101 this is something people often ignore. Cortes left Cuba as a traitor, and would most certainly had been executed on any other circumstance. They had been given clear orders of establishing trade with the Americans. Then Cortes lied his way through Mesoamerica claiming to be a representative of the Castilian crown, which he was not. If it wasn't for the Tlaxcalans he would have failed. And with that the fate of the indigenous peoples western hemisphere would've been changed forever.

[@darken2417]

@@Lustratic85 NO you CAN discover a place that other people already know about. You are discovering something that you or your group don't know about, it doesn't matter who knows about it or if there are people living there. Hell you are also discovering that those people exist. Discovery isn't some sort of shared accomplishment for all of humanity nor is it the first comment on the comment section.

[@xplinux22]

As a Sephardic Jew with some Iraqi heritage, I wouldn't have been born at all. My ancestry would be split between Al Andalus and/or Morocco together with Iraq. The mass expulsion of Sepharadim from Iberia wouldn't have occurred as part of the Reconquista, and I suspect Sephardic Judaism would be largely isolated to Spain, Portugal, and possibly Morocco and not as prevalent globally as it is today.

[@oblivionrapture1469]

I literally looked this topic up like an hour before you posted this, it’s glorious

[@Charles-In-Charge]

¡Olé! I'm so hyped for part two, so happy you remade this.

[@ankledrew8150]

I'm still theorizing on you europe wiped out video, thank you for releasing this. Big help.

[@alexfarrow2740]

funny thing mentioning "island French" it actually already exists, its jerriaise a hybrid of the two languages already in use.

[@zillionrainbow7272]

You should do "What if Bismarck never left power and stayed chancellor?" What would European politics be like if the iron chancellor was in charge of Germany instead of Wilhelm II

[@christophmaier4397]

Ok larper

[@ThisCharmlessMan]

By the time he was dismissed he was becoming too old to rule, and Bismarck, the ultimate conservative, wouldn't have ever let Germany not have an emperor with a large amount of executive power.

[@KitchenSinkSoup]

I think a more interesting one would be what if Kaiser Frederick III ruled for longer.

[@CountScarlioni]

I don't think the path Germany was on (eg. the runaway train of Prussian militarism) could have been avoided. Bismarck was unparalleled in geopolitical skill, and knew when to trust his pragmatism over his nationalism - keeping the balance of power in Europe whilst growing German influence. There simply wasn't anyone suitable to replace him, even if he had hung around into his wheelchair bound years. Weak reformers like Caprivi and blustering jingoists like von Bülow just weren't in the same league. Wilhelm II was always going to get his way.

[@KitchenSinkSoup]

@@CountScarlioni But what if Frederick III somehow survives throat cancer?

[@fractur3d442]

I noticed that the chapters have is a little bit wrong, its called al Andalus but overall the video was great!

[@valdamirlebanon4508]

While I'm a big fan of Cody's work, I have to say that I disagree with one of the underlying assumptions of this video. The northern Christian kingdoms of Iberia we're not constantly and consistently pushing Southward throughout the entirety of Andalusian history, in fact throughout most of their history Andalusia had fairly strong Geographic protection from the north in the form of the Central and Iberian Mountain chains of Spain (yes that's what they're called). I bring this up because there was actually a much more natural point of Divergence much later in Andalusian history involving a war over the succession of Muslim Toledo between Leon and Seville. Leon ended up winning this war and it was because of that they were able to unite the rest of the peninsula, so it stands to reason that if Seville had won the war they would at least be able to unite the southern half over the peninsula under new Muslim rulership.

[@sb-lm1yu]

Interesting point and perspective!

[@Dustz92]

Or just the caliphate not imploding after the death of Almazor. Prior to that point Christians had barely advanced.

[@blecao]

i would put the divergence on the fall of the caliphate into Taifas more than in the conquest of Toledo

[@AdamNoizer]

Another more natural point of divergence could also have been the reign of Hisham II through Hajib Almanzor. If I remember correctly, even though the Caliph was basically a figurehead during his reign, it still represented the peak of power for Cordoba, and Almanzor essentially reduced the northern Christian kingdoms to a state of indefinite vassalage, sacking their capitals multiple times and pushing the borders slightly further north. He didn't conquer the cities because garrisoning them would have been more expensive than just plundering and returning home. However a more conquest bent rather than raid focused foreign policy could have changed that.

[@blecao]

@Fajr Core That is also common on the western (for example in spain it was called pena ha galeras)but your dont talk about other of the main sources of slaves that where the batles and the raids across the mediterranean coast

[@TheAwesomeAlan]

My favorite way to see how this plays out is in Europa Universalis, playing as the Ottomans and assisting Granada in reclaiming Spain. This prevents any Spanish or Portuguese colonization in the New World.

[@redwolf915]

So English and French domination

[@muhammadomar9487]

@@redwolf915 atleast French mexico or English brazil is better

[@takumifujiwara2951]

@@muhammadomar9487 French mexico is just a sin goo thing it didn't happen

[@stricktpine9067]

I for one fully support the remaking of old videos.

[@Divenity]

"You know now that I think about it, this whole alternate timeline really just seems like an elaborate way to make sure the Dutch never exist" *Nigel Powers has entered the chat*

[@fduranthesee]

Can’t touch the Dutch Clutch 🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🍦🍦🍦

[@Deridus]

FINALLY! Now there is truly nothing wrong with Belgium!

[@MrGilang100]

Foresight for the next topic ending in AltHis-Hub Alternate History Universe.

[@Piratejoe44]

@@Deridus Belgium are just traitorous catholic dutch who larp as french. Without the dutch you'd just stop larping and actually be as French as the Picards. Edit: If you don't know what I mean when I say Picards, there's a people and language in the one area of the lowlands that neither Belgium or the Neatherlands ever managed to get back with a people who have been ruled over by the french for quite some time.

[@TOBAPNW_]

@@Piratejoe44 lmao as an Australian I had never conceived of Dutch-Belgian roasting but it makes perfect sense; any two groups who border and have so much in common (language, history, etc.) are going to hate the differences. Like England-Scotland, no? Except the Belgians actually managed to get free.

[@VRBroadcasting]

This is already one of my top favorite videos(two-parter series) from Alt-Hist

[@barnertalik1806]

Very excited for part 2 :)

[@aritzneo]

Great video and I can imagine why you have chosen not to elaborate on the Ottoman Empire and their further expansion into Europe after the fall of Constantinople, because it is a complicated calculation. Indeed, the lack of a Spanish armada puts the Ottomans at an advantage on the sea at least on paper, because removing the spaniards from Lepanto is basically giving the turks a free win (provided that Al-Andalus does not participate against them!). However, in land it is VERY difficult to hypothesize an outcome: you could assume Habsburgs would be weaker (no dynastic ties to Spain, reduced impact on the HRE) making things easier for the turks, but you have to consider as well that the lack of Reformation also implies a more stable central Europe and, more importantly, no wars of religion, particularly the desvastating Thirty Years War. In any case it is a fun scenario to hypothesize with and it was a good effort. I hope to see the second part soon!

[@Charlietolemy]

That's the thing with alternate histories, it's nearly goddamn impossible to predict.

[@GATE12]

Check my channel for a reply to this video.

[@SIGNOR-G]

Even wothout spaniards there wpuld still be the arch enemy of the ottomand. Venice!

[@izebdeh]

"And yes this is a two parter" *Instant smile on my face*

[@Connor-o9q]

Spain will never be muslim again,this is history,islam doesn't belong in spain

[@adamramadan8693]

Great video as always. One of my favorites for sure. Would be cool if you could do a video on Africa-India relations ive been researching it recently super interesting

[@akramgimmini8165]

A Good Alternative History Video as Always Keep up the Good Work, Cody 👍

[@xKatakiuchii]

haven't clicked this fast in a while, been waiting for this for a while and its worth it.

[@RamRam-vn5kv]

i've been in ANDALUCIA this past week SEVILLA,GRANADA,MALAGA you can see all the traces of MOORS ARCHITECTURE and AL-HAMBRA is MAGNIFICENT

[@m3rrys0ngstr3ss]

"And yes, there's a part 2" - HELL YES!

[@gabrielzinho3230]

I'm so glad this will have a second part

[@xMetalhead2000]

You should start remaking more of the older vids you had some amazing concepts that I’d love to see fleshed out more

[@kuroazrem5376]

As a historian on this period, I actually agree with your assesment on Al-Andalus, but I would add that they would also expand into Southeast Asia and the Indian Ocean as a result of competition with the Ottomans. They would also expand into Morocco, since keeping the Berber tribes (who migrated in large numbers into Al-Andalus) in check was vital to their survival. I would also add that this Islamic society would be very different from the Córdoba we imagine, since, in order to conquer the mountainous northern Iberia, one needs Berber troops, who converted in the 740's to another sect called Kharijism. The Kharijites would have then unified Iberia under their rule, and thus prevent an Arab caliphate from rising. In other words, Al-Andalus would be essentially a wierd mixture between Visigothic and Berber Muslim cultures. But I do still think they would continue their Golden Age of science down to today.

[@mathiassunyenetto3818]

I would say no. The importation of Berbers was one of the factors that destabilized Andalus. With the Berbers not getting along with the local population whether muwallasa (Iberian Muslims) or Mozaradics (Christians of the Caliphate) they were to ortodox for nation. What Andalus needed was to start using muwallads in government and military positions. Not to mention that the tribes began their same shift to Iberia with Al-mansur to combat the influence of the saqaliba (Slavic slave soldiers) and loyalists of the Umayyads. Importing Berbers is probably one of the worst possible tactics.

[@CharaDreemurr_Undertale]

I don't think they would "compete" with the Ottomans at all. In our timeline, when Al-Andalus got completely wiped out by the Spanish, most of the Muslim (and even the Jews) requested help from the Ottomans; which accepted and sent their navy to escort the Muslim transport ships. This caused fightings between the Spanish and the Ottomans trying to get the Muslims out. This proves that Al-Andalus had a good relationship with the Turks, that they would risk sparking war with the Spanish to help the Al-Andalus if they would need.

[@187mrsmith]

I learned more on the alternate history hub than I ever did in history class

[@maciek_k.cichon]

Just don't cross the history streams on exams

[@ireallycantthinkofaname4726]

Great video

[@RayshiaRoman]

The interesting thing here is if Al-Andalus was extremely stable in Iberia since the arrival of Muslims, that means the ruling dynasty in all of this video would be Umayyads. This is important since the Umayyads was the Second Caliphate in Islamic history that took power after the Rashidun Caliphs. If Iberia was stable, the Umayyads would probably try to use it as a base to retake the territories that was lost after the Abbasid Revolution. The Maghrebs would probably either be conquered or become vassal state of the Iberian Caliphate. So they would also have more reasons to hate the Ottomans who in their opinion would be another upstart who usurped their rightful title as Caliph. If the Ottomans reached much of their historical extent, the Umayyad and Ottoman power struggle would most likely take place in Italy and Libya. Interesting stuff

[@GrtSage]

I’m really looking forward to Cody redoing his older vids. I wanna see What if the Mongols never existed.

[@angusyang5917]

That would be a massive butterfly effect in itself, the Mongols basically wiped the slate clean for most dynasties, and allowed new ones to rise.

[@cerridianempire1653]

or what if they stayed in power for much longer than in our timeline

[@tranquoccuong890-its-orge]

or just a short one about what if the golden horde branch of the mongols successfully conquered all of europe

[@Thanatar13]

It screws with Russian unification and the rise of Moscow over Novgorod for starters- and China and the Levant are going to be better off- Iran is going to be FAR better off. Most the the 'stans (minus eastern Pakistan) are going to remain firmly Iranian/Iranic (not as in Persian, but as in Aryan/Iranian), and Iranic nomadic peoples are going to remain a significant force in northern Eurasia up to and including the Ukraine. OTL Iranic peoples were both greatly reduced and assimilated by Slavic, Turkic, Mongolian, and Germanic peoples- much of that isn't going to happen here, at least not in the same sense. And then finally, no Mongols = no Pax Mongolica- the progression of trade and ideas is going to be considerably lessened. Western Europe is the loser in that case- by and large kind of a backwater then- alternate Russia, Italy if and when it unifies, and the Byzantines if they survive (they have a pretty good shot at it without the Mongols IMO, not due to Mongols having been disastrous for them but rather due to the Mongols having further empowered and spread Turkic peoples- the whole Turko-Mongol synthesis thing) will probably all be more significant- France, Spain (or Andalus, but more likely Spain), England and some power on the Great European Plain (German or Polish, probably) will all still be significant eventually, but not overwhelmingly so. The Mongols massively depopulated central Asia in particular (bad blood with the Iranic Khwarezmians). So my guesses would be- later and much different unification of Russia/the Eurasian steppe (a Eurasian power, likely centered around some former Kievan Rus state just like OTL); slightly more prosperous China and Arab states, and any ATL version of Iran is going to be massively buffed. Big winners- Iran, with some chance of the Polish-Lithuanians also capitalizing on later Russian unification enough to take a lead in the process at least in the west, of sorts. Considerably improved situation for China, the Arabs and their golden age, and probably to Italy and the Byzantines- weakening the Turks makes them likely to remain the economic and cultural hearts of Europe for longer and disincentivizes Christian powers from their whole "age of exploration" thing.

[@christiandauz3742]

Maybe China starts the Industrial Revolution in the 1200s It's like going from Crusader Kings to Victoria in fast-forward China, India and Turks become Imperial Powers like the Europeans WW1 in 1314!!!

[@Canada1994]

Cody: "What if the Muslims kept Spain?" Portugal: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@ghrtfhfgdfnfg]

Yeah… “Iberia” is the proper term here

[@Canada1994]

@@ghrtfhfgdfnfg I know. In Europa Universalis IV I only play as Castile if I use a mod I have to create a nation called Iberia when I control all of it

[@samuelturner1668]

Great video Cody! I've been watching your videos since I was about 15. I'm 21 now. Please don't stop.

[@gyver8448]

"The English would speak French." Me, an Englishman: NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[@blecao]

Non you are meant to say non pesky anglo = )

[@gyver8448]

@@blecao ...Fuck. That would've been funnier to say instead of no, now that I think about it. Oh well.

[@blecao]

@@gyver8448 jajaja you are welcome

[@azzzanadra]

a lot of english words came from french, don't you see that? the frenchman was in you all along!

[@browhat4697]

@@gyver8448 I mean it would be better than speaking this "English"

[@earltaylor1893]

Yay! A 2 part series!

[@Lawfair]

English and Irish fisherman were within two or three decades of discovering Newfoundland in our time, and this is a phenomenon that would likely be independent of great men history and politics, so I'd wager the Anglo-Irish still find the new world and get there before al Andalus. Also it occurs to me if the Muslims don't go for Tours, than Charles Martel never rises to prominence and Pepin the Short is much less likely to overthrow the Merovingian dynasty.

[@TheArctofireHD]

I loved this video! Great job! Can't wait for part 2!

[@DrSmoke2104]

As a minor islamic history reader by the fact that I'm a Muslim, I really enjoyed and agree with most of what you said there!! I knew Gustaf Lubon said this about the great Muslim leader Musa Bin Nusairbeen: “If Musa Bin Nusairbeen was able to cross Europe, he would have converted it to Islam, and he would have achieved religious unity for the civilized nations. He would have also saved it from the backwardness it suffered from the darkness of the medieval ages, which was not experienced by Spain because it was under the rule of the Arabs.” But discovering the Americas? That's huge!

[@adamnesico]

Musa ibn Nusair was a mediocre man who apropiated of the success of his lieutenant tariq.

[@AdamNoizer]

Muslims will finally have a good World Cup football team ⚽️ JK Also I love that you modelled the Andalusian flag off of Cordoban architecture.

[@m.thorton9305]

can't imagine the El Classico would be like, definitely not Barca vs Real anymore

[@chronicthingz]

@@m.thorton9305 it would've be AL classico between Cordoba vs balencia 😂

[@augustokonrad3572]

Al-Classico lmao

[@wabliohitika4521]

Sergio Ramos = Sirag Rami

[@byzantium0086]

Cristiano Ronaldo = Muhammad abdulnado

[@MatijaCG]

Imagine what would happend if the Ottomans never conquered the Balkans.

[@Domainz77]

Vodka

[@chuckn4851]

The better question

[@kaedyn14]

@Klunteng Full,,,, 👇😍 bro what the fuc-

[@ducknapper1906]

@@kaedyn14 wa

[@ducknapper1906]

@@kaedyn14 hey you acting sus with dat bot

[@psssshhh7730]

For the purpose of more food in the future, I will now add more thought provoking variables to your historical theory crafting. More specifically, there were some important occurrences in the middle east at the time that would go very differently with the presence of a strong, stable Andalusia (Al Andalus). I'll look at the Crusades, Abbasid decline, Mongol invasions, the Mameluke uprising, and the Ottomans The caliphate of Andalusia became known as such around the time the Umayyads were overthrown by the Persian backed Abbasids, and holed up in Iberia. Now, the Abbasids may have been the 'Golden Age' of Islam, but they were a also a political mess to rival the late Sassanids. Around the time of the (now failed) Reconquista, they were infighting like hell with mameluke armies, which lead to the rising of the Mameluke Sultanate. Andalusia, could potentially ally with the Mameluke Sultanate after they break with the Abbasids, dividing north Africa between themselves. Before that though, there was the Seljuk Turks appearing. The Turks would migrate like normal and the Seljuk Sultanate would take a bite out of the Abbasid Caliphate and Anatolia. Andalusia would prolly ally with them given the rivalry with the Byzantines and Abbasids and help the Seljuks develop via trade and give some military support against both. The Byzantines would call the Pope like normal, which would set off the Crusades again. The number of Crusaders would be lower since less Western European powers were unlikely to risk leaving home with a Muslim power in their backyard. The Umayyads of Andalusia may ally with the Abbasids as a response to the Crusades, so the Europeans would be less able to supply the Crusaders via sea, what with two Muslim navies in the ocean (one with greek fire to boot). Saladin may actually get a peaceful retirement. This leaves Anatolia to the Turks, whom would most likely fail to take Constantinople. Eastern Europe would weaken way more as a result and the Ottomans would rise again faster after the Mongols show up and do Mongol things. At this point the Abbasids would be at deaths door and politically isolated, so Bagdad would still be sacked. The Mamluks would most likely ally with Andalusia to beat back the Mongols easier. When the Ottomans absorb the Post Mongol remains of the Abbasids and Persians, they would likely have decent diplomatic ties with the Umayyads due to support during the Seljuk days. Being vaguely allied, and too far to really have any real conflicts, access to the Indian Ocean would remain uninterrupted. In Europe, France would have the advantage of not going bankrupt during the crusades and would start expanding into the significantly weaker east for that old dream of unifying the continent like Charlemagne wanted. It would conquer the northern territories and then discover the route to the new world that the Vikings once used. French speaking Canada too, I guess.

[@angryhippy7]

Here is an idea: What if the first Arab siege of Constantinople ended in Arab victory? Would a Muslim/Greek kingdom emerge and preserve Greek culture similarly to what the Saffarid dynasty did for Persia?

[@boygenius538_8]

Persian culture was integrated into Muslims long before the Safavids

[@akbeh]

Islam would engulf Europe

[@zhcultivator]

@Gigachad why?

[@mirzubair8291]

@@zhcultivator same a lot of Muslim kingdoms really have no interest in converting the local population a good example is was the way the Arabs never converted the Turks in the first place and many thought that if they converted the local population that mean no non-Muslim tax along with no slave.

[@berry04-si]

I never thought the day would come but holy unexpected spanish inqusition it's here. It's actually here.

[@wobbegong4366]

And as usual we never expected it 😂

[@sikid4000]

This isn't the spanish inquisition lol

[@shinsenshogun900]

It's the Andalusian Makahim

[@enderboy1824]

10:06 I just noticed it was one of ISP’s videos. Absolutely stellar

[@Unhinged_Autism]

Spanish Inquisition: *cries intensely*

[@zosasho8036]

I like your pfp

[@Unhinged_Autism]

@@zosasho8036 thank you

[@yayvideogames8032]

Don’t you mean **cries unexpectedly**

[@Unhinged_Autism]

@@yayvideogames8032 yes

[@D_S_L]

Could you do more remakes please. Like "What if we Lost the Cold War" could be more detailed. I'm not saying it was bad, but it would still be cool to redo

[@silentbyte196]

Awesome video Cody!

[@morbinmorbiusthemorber3849]

One thing to add to this scenario is the relationship Al Andalus would have with it's north african neighbourgs. Al Andalus in our timeline had little enclaves on the north-african cost (aside from the Mallorca islands which you put on the christian side while they were also conqueres by Al Andalus, but regardless). Al Andalus, probably, would try to expand in order to make a firm frontier against invasions from the south, which would have happened regularly because the almohads and Almoravids would probably still try to invade, even if they weren't invited like in our timeline, kinda like what the Franks did with the Pyrenees. Aside from that, the conflict between the Ottomans and Al Andalus, aside from religious differences, it would probably be in the view of the world as well. I don't know about if the ottomans really advanced in technology themselves, but I heard that since the Mongols and the sack of Baghdad the muslim world changed completely and it became a lot more conservative. But Al Andalus wouldn't be that affected, since it is already so detached from the main land of Islam, the middle east, and it also calls itself a caliphate, in opposition to the one of Baghdad (the rulers of Al Andalus were Umayyads, which themselves were purged by the Abbasids but one escaped to Al Andalus and so on). So, in this world, one caliphate would represent the liberal side of Islam, maybe progressing more and more and having a more liberal thought, meanwhile the other would be more so conservative on their interpretation of Islam. Also, Al Andalus was known for its religious tolerance (which the ottomans supposedly also partaked in, but I heard that they weren't that tolerable in the balkans), so such caliphate would still have it's jews and it's christians as minorities. Al Andalus was also kinda stratified by race, as the arabs nobles would be the rulers meanwhiles the native population were treated with "less respect" lets say, and also need to add the berbers into the mix. Al Andalus, kinda like "What if Japan became christian" would be islamic but it would be pretty different from other muslim regions. They might even have more in common with western Europe than the islamic world itself, and the enlightenment might have spread as well to muslim spain, regardless of religion.

[@morbinmorbiusthemorber3849]

Also, I might add that the ottomans could have prohibited the spice trade to Al-Andalus as well, as they might even see them as heretics, and also because they could just sell it again to the christians for a profit.

[@jmgonzales7701]

what was the reason why andalus was more liberal compared to the ottomans? also why would they be discriminant in terms of race?

[@morbinmorbiusthemorber3849]

@@jmgonzales7701 The sack of Baghdad was an event so traumatic for the middle east (well, the mongol and timurid invasions in general) that in theory people became pretty much fundamentalist over their interpretation of islam. Kinda like with christianity on the early middle ages if I can make the analogy. Supposedly, this ended the age of science in Islam leading to an age of obscurantism. This, I think, wouldn't really have affected the Umayyad, as first they were the fuck away from it, and they were ruled by the Umayyads, a dinasty which was absolutely massacred by the Abbasids leaving just one umayyad alive which then proceeded to conquer the peninsula, thus making Al Andalus and also making a new caliphate (kinda like a new popedom). This, imo, would make Al Andalus a refuge for that ancient, world of science islam. Why would they be discriminant of race? It's not why would they, I'm not saying hypotheticals. I'm saying that they were: "The Muslims, although united on the religious level, had several ethnic divisions, the main being the distinction between the Arabs and the Berbers. The Arab elite regarded non-Arab Muslims as second-class citizens; and they were particularly scornful of the Berbers.[86]" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Andalus

[@jmgonzales7701]

@@morbinmorbiusthemorber3849 i guess everyone had racism to a degree.

[@jmgonzales7701]

@@morbinmorbiusthemorber3849 also fck the mongols

[@komnoms4359]

There's a really good alt timeline that goes into this, Moonlight in a Jar

[@emperorfanta364]

I read that TL it is really good in my opinion

[@bwkanimations7352]

i love how english people spell arabic words, aal andaloos XD, much love bro for shedding lights on islam without making us like every hollywood film created, and also its spelled like al andals with a relly short u in the middle

[@Barcaplsfkinwin]

Huh, was literally just halfway through a Granada campaign before origins fucked up my save file.

[@MDP1702]

Just revert back?

[@Barcaplsfkinwin]

@@MDP1702 yh I did, it was just annoying when I booted up the game and I wanted to complain on the Internet

[@hases2772]

Ah my favorite achivement to get in CK3 was the Al-Andalus one were you had to avenge the battle of tours, if anyone hasn't tried it in ck3 then do so because its a pretty fun ( and long) run!

[@salimelmouaffaq1351]

Where and when would you recommend starting?

[@LautaroArgentino]

@@salimelmouaffaq1351 my first game was in Iberia, the game has a list of recommended rulers. You can also play in Ireland for an even easier game.

[@bayern1445]

@@salimelmouaffaq1351 as salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh I started in 867 as the umayyad and beat the revolts I then recommend doing duchy conquests on north africa to bolster your holy sites for buffs and declaring a khalifat Then try to take over the north, declare a kingdom war for aquitaine and its easy sailing from there

[@Hiitsazl]

@@bayern1445 was the leader of the rebels named ibn hafsun?

[@johnnyboy3410]

easiest way is 867 Umayyad start, you start strong but pushing into France is hard since Karlings exist

[@makramchaaben5779]

Very interesting topic, can you do the enxt time "What if Carthage won the punic wars?". That would change Europe as we know it today forever.

[@oliveraludden6838]

Nice video I would love to see one about Italian unification like what if it never unified Keep up the good work

[@mshaqed2538]

Or even better: What if Milan unified Italy (or at least the northern part) in the 14th century (And they were quite close to that under the leadership of Gian Galeazzo Visconti, who wished to create an Italian superpower out of Milan and turn the north into a great European power, but was stopped short of his objectives and died without even claiming himself king).

[@beb6c2a]

Loved the video! But for the best part could you go deeper into the effects in the Islamic world? This part mostly focus around Europe itself but I believe the divergence will have as much or close of an effect to the Arab and Islamic world politically, culturally and even religious wise. Anyways great video 👍

[@th3freakie]

Regarding that last bit of the video, there is a book about it in the french series of Alt-Hist books called "Jour J". The specific book is called "Colomb Pacha" and assumes a converted Colomb working for a surviving Emirate of Cordoba.

[@sorenrekel-bludau9867]

Great video! I've always thought that there could have been more made out of this scenario five years ago. But I'm not sure about the "There is no need to find new trade routes, even if the Ottomans take Constantinople" part. You've said earlier that Al-Andalus and the Ottoman Empire could have become the East and West of the Islamic world. As barring the Christians from using the Asian trade routes was IMO more of a political decision than anything else, it could have happened with this ideological conflict between two caliphates as well.

[@maciejstanczyk6663]

Looking forward to part 2. Very interesting scenario.

[@tubate20092]

Real nice Episode bro! Imagine the age of Exploration, kickstarted from the southern hemisphere

[@thomasj7724]

10:07 y’all watch, being given credit in the bottom right of an Alternate History Hub video will be ISPs breakout role!

[@VinceR3000]

hello gravy baby

[@studentofknowlege]

The Ummayads were amazing, in just a few years they had an empire from France to India

[@gunsol900]

@Klunteng Full,,,, 👇😍 nigga, what?

[@jaroslawkaras7347]

@@gunsol900 yeah ikr like wtf are these bots are these like protests against what youtube is today or something?

[@AdamNoizer]

Bots under every comment 🙄

[@a_09.7]

Even to the borders of China

[@gabbo7101]

depends where you draw the line regarding india, also there were many kingdoms in the way between the umayydis and the franks, so your claim of boardering france would also be wrong. The ummayyids also collapsed shortly after, and were so decadent and corrupt that a giant, large-scale revolution was able to overthrow them. Abbassids are way better then umayyids, btw.

[@paikuhansensei815]

Correction : it was not Spain, it was the Iberian peninsula (today's modern day Spain and Portugal).

[@thelostchevalier]

"And yes, this is a two-parter" Good, I was hoping to hear that xD

[@JD-rl7hg]

I think a video on what if the US never took the Philippines in the future would be really interesting. Its a concept thats been floating in my head for a while, and I'm quite surprised nobody has done it yet. My headcannon would be that Japan takes over and WW2 ends very differently, but idk. Maybe a good idea for a future video?

[@AureliusLaurentius1099]

There is also this option of the Germans wishing to acquire their own territory and just snatched the Philippines instead

[@ghrtfhfgdfnfg]

Filipinos speak Spanish

[@bae4768]

@@ghrtfhfgdfnfg no, the phillipines had a revolution and they won it

[@mrkilo-g8794]

It would end up in the US territory anyways but this time during and after WW2 since Japan would've still invaded them and US save them just like ur timeline

[@Limubi1]

Another excellent video!!

[@rimfire8217]

Could you please do What if John Browns slave rebellion was successful?

[@b.griffin317]

Without Columbus's deliberate plans to reach across the Atlantic I doubt anyone swept across by accident would be able to make it back. It would take extra supplies, a general idea of how to get there (and thus back) and a direct journey insuring the vessels were in good shape (as opposed to a ship-wreck) upon arrival to have any guarantee of a return voyage and thus being able to inform your countrymen of your discovery.

[@MrColuber]

The video is showing something analogous to the discovery of Brazil. The Portuguese had discovered the Volta do Mar (a navigational technique) even before the discovery of America. Of course, as you have noticed, the Andalusians would have to do the same in order to return home. Unfortunately, Cody didn't mention whether the Andalusians had discovered the Atlantic Islands or not.

[@nrbmemes2414]

Why would the Muslims even need to go west. They had access to the Indian ocean so they didn't need to sail west to outmaneuver the Muslims..

[@ultra-papasmurf]

@@nrbmemes2414 All it would take is poor relations with the Mamluks or the ottomans and boom

[@عبداللهوليد-س3و]

Nice efforts 👍 looking forward to more videos 🤠

[@ozwolf01]

If the Golden Age never ended, it would have been entirely possible that the first trans-atlantic crossing might have been sooner, rather than later. Also recall that Columbus was born in Genoa and Vespucci in Florence meaning that if they still sailed west as in our timeline they may have done so under those flags. America! as founded by the Medici family...

[@abhiprakash74999]

It was still about the spice tho. The Muslim iberians wouldn't be in a bind like the Christian iberians were. I assume the muslims sold spices to Christians at high prices