What if you go back to the wasteland? || LISA The Pointless SOTWS

[@birdup1_2]

Considering how time is normal in garbage island, slow in the desert, and fast in downtown, I think that in the area with the still-living trees, time is completely halted

[@fantastical674]

possible but without actual clue it's hard to know. Well I guess the active trees can be a clue.

[@themonster8887]

i think its just sotws implementing some lovecraftian horror into an area it designed.. dont gotta read into it so much

[@skeletonking2501]

@@themonster8887 To be fair there’s a bunch of lovecraftian stuff in the base pointless

[@sarcastic2731]

When Alex was talking about day lasting decades I didn't think of it in a literal way,nor did I expect to see this in SOFTW.

[@drizzziit1]

Maybe there wasn't actually any time dilatation and Alex is just imagining stuff because of heat strokes. I think it makes sense since he's so scared of perhaps never finding his right place to die, like these people, and you can't go back to check anyway.

[@fantastical674]

Ah yes that's actually a good possibility but the thing is according to the LISA The pointless base wiki Time dilatation is canon. I don't know where they got that info but I trust them.

[@JackFrost-hh1nt]

@@fantastical674 Pretty sure at the dinner scene, Alex himself said something about how sometimes, a day lasts forever and sometimes a year doesn't even last a day. Think due to the Flash being purely supernatural in Pointless, some places do have fucked up time.

[@fantastical674]

@@JackFrost-hh1nt Ah yes yes I knew that and wanted to correct myself but too lazy lol

[@vincentvalentine4401]

@@fantastical674 isn’t it also cannon that time is also screwy in Painful too? Like in the desert two guys were talking about it not being too bright or something. Joyful also had that tilted cloud

[@furyleferret2288]

@@fantastical674 Time dilation has been a thing since Painful. The very first interaction with Nern is him talking briefly about the Flash and how time seems to be very weird, saying how sometimes it's never night or the days just go flying by rapidly

[@alexis_electronic]

Perhaps the Elder did know about the time dilation - the distance from the story of the Pointless. They *had* the pink pill. Then, they didn't. And were left behind. In story, and in time. "If you cannot retrieve the artifact - you may as well not come back at all."

[@shushupyounaughtyminx4832]

The dialogue with the bodyguard is very interesting. Makes me wonder about the way time works in the lisa setting.

[@a.atlant5200]

Decades...

[@cdru515]

It's specific to Pointless. But, basically, time dilation depends on where you are. It's also the reason for why the desert is lethally hot, yet downtown is completely fine despite being very close to it

[@shushupyounaughtyminx4832]

@@cdru515 Where did you get this information?

[@digitaltoaster4956]

@@shushupyounaughtyminx4832 the wiki

[@dani.2479]

@@shushupyounaughtyminx4832 ”Observe.” Followed by decades. ..And decades of obeserving

[@Komnen0s]

Man, what an eerie Easter egg. The Twilight Plaza was originally this cool, mysterious place but when you come back to it's devoid of life. The music is gone and the few remaining Marauders are insane and senile (the first guy you run into at 0:55 originally had a darker beard when you first visit the village). I appreciate that Jimmy didn't explicitly spell out what happened, as that makes it creepier because it's left to your imagination. The elder's bodyguard makes some cryptic comments about the passage of time being different there but it's not elaborated why that's the case or even whether he's telling you the truth, or if he's just as demented as the guys outside (_or_ if any of what we see is even happening to begin with and it isn't just Alex imagining things due to Heatstroke-induced delirium).

[@camedialdamage8180]

I wonder if the entrance to downtown was actually like a few feet from the start of the wasteland but time is so fucked up it turned into 5 minutes of pain.

[@fikamonster2564]

That ”f u” part was brilliant

[@reyreyreyreyreyreyreyrey]

Huh, thats a pretty interesting detail, a bit weird how some of the people just never moved till death haha but its pretty cool nonetheless

[@unknownmusicguy8637]

Alex face is so fitting for this lmao.

[@bobbyasaka]

It's honestly kind of sad seeing this once-thriving community degenerate like that.

[@catchubby7513]

I keep finding new secrets all the time in that expanse with your videos or my exploration ! It seems JCJimmy anticipated everything the player could do and polished the game until its very details. Will we see it fully one day or will we always be missing something ?

[@fantastical674]

and he isn't done yet can you believe that?

[@michaelbronder9147]

Can you make a video on what the broken rilfe and ak 47 are for if anything? Same thing with other seemingly useless items like the palladium tile, gold watch, teen mag, inflated head, etc.

[@cogwithnoambition2990]

They're only meant to be sold. With the exception of the inflated head which is meant to be combined with the mannequin torso to make the jerryrigged doll which you can then barter to the garbage merchants for some good loot.

[@fantastical674]

Ah I see... I don't know about that.

[@enoch2767]

3:58 he is sas snas sa snas sans undertale

[@fantastical674]

NOOOO

[@colinhorstmann1749]

So.... If changes only occur after a while, couldn't you theocraticly just rush to salt crab and then get geen?

[@AikisDominator]

Well thing about Pointless is that you are not allow it to have it easy. Because as you can see you can never get more than 3 party members. So therefore I assume Geen would either be dead already/ ask you you to ditch Salt crab/ or won't be there at all.

[@PromboVII]

What about the Weather Mountain? Did that change at all?

[@fantastical674]

You can't access the place. It's blocked by the thing

[@sacripan4425]

is it possible to go back to the wasteland in this game? because in the og, the platform where you fall from is too high

[@theequalizer694]

Not a Lisa game without a middle finger somewhere

[@Power-xl8vh]

Nice

[@NadaRecomendable]

there was nothing in the secret area? 0:30

[@alexis_electronic]

nothing new, no. exactly the same.

[@NagasakiLicious]

if i remember correctly if you didn’t go there before you got to downtown it blocks you off

[@TotallyNotAHeister]

Oh, i guess there would be an easter egg if you try to recruit Geen after getting Salt Crab... Who knows, maybe there is. But meh, im lazy enough for try it... Or not?

[@joyland730]

By the time you recruit salt crab, geen will have already died of dehydration in the desert

[@DR01248]

idea: all siren's call in all lisa official's

[@fantastical674]

Eeh what's that ? Also dude I am not a LISA channel

[@DR01248]

@@fantastical674 a yess i see but is a good idea, siren's call is a song what repeat in the game but different styles

[@test4O4]

100% off

[@realwolfingen8896]

How do they measure "Decades" if the sun never moves? Sorry but thats just a failed attempt at worldbuilding. I think LISA games should not unecessarily try to establish a time dilation continuity, The time within Olathe is just whatever it needs to be.

[@fantastical674]

Or they simply use a clock ? A mind clock and a mind calendar. There is many other method to measure time and years you know even if time appear to be frozen.

[@bunkerdown8494]

Using a clock? Just because the sun doesn't move doesn't mean all methods of tracking time has gone apart, they might not be able to tell the amount of time that's gone past but you can fucking tell its been decades if you're growing old and grey. You gonna tell me people living in bunkers will simply not notice when 20 years go by because they can't see the sun?