What Integration Technique Do I Use? Example 1

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@ringo3650
@ringo3650 9 жыл бұрын
People ended up here, either proving that their school teachers are being lousy, or they don't pay attention during the lecture. Or perhaps simply that Patrick is cool.
@dextermorgan9609
@dextermorgan9609 9 жыл бұрын
. 念來過反會才頭木 All of the above for me my friend.
@hurrdurr25
@hurrdurr25 9 жыл бұрын
+. 念來過反會才頭木 more likely the teachers are lousy. people that don't pay attention probably wouldn't care to learn how to do the work and never make it to these videos.
@thewiseone9798
@thewiseone9798 9 жыл бұрын
+. 念來過反會才頭木 Why do you have Chinese characters in your name?
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 9 жыл бұрын
+. 念來過反會才頭木 i think the correct answer is: all of the above (especially the last part)
@ConnorJW96
@ConnorJW96 8 жыл бұрын
+. 念來過反會才頭木 Integration and differentiation are always good things to practice, as they crop up all the time. I find myself coming back to this video (and others by PatricksJMT's) to refresh my memory. Very useful!
@mileywaffle
@mileywaffle 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH. I've been subbed and watching your videos for 2 years now. I really appreciate that you keep it free and accessible.
@douglasleigh2831
@douglasleigh2831 4 жыл бұрын
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@jackmathieson1903
@jackmathieson1903 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, knowing which method of integration to use is the hardest part of A Level Maths. I've got my Pure exam tomorrow.
@Agreedtodisagree
@Agreedtodisagree 11 жыл бұрын
I can't emphasize this enough, practice practice and practice. If you think you got it, then choose a hard problem and then try it. And kudos to this guy for having such a love for math.
@ahmadzaka9885
@ahmadzaka9885 4 жыл бұрын
Not even kidding, this video probably just saved my life, you have no idea how much this helped me.
@ThePharphis
@ThePharphis 11 жыл бұрын
After a few years of calc I'm feeling pretty confident about most integrations, but I still think this video is helpful.
@intelliza7248
@intelliza7248 9 жыл бұрын
Write the numerator as (1-e^x) +2.e^x and then split it in two parts ,integration of first part is x and to integrate the second part substitute u=(1-e^x)
@212ntruesdale
@212ntruesdale 6 жыл бұрын
BINGO!!!!!!!
@CheapPhysics
@CheapPhysics 3 жыл бұрын
Bingoooooo.....
@johnman5391
@johnman5391 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm still learning this stuff can you explain that more simply? Is that method simpler?
@kelbyreyes3599
@kelbyreyes3599 8 жыл бұрын
why do i always have a feeling that i'm doing everything wrong :(
@finback2005
@finback2005 8 жыл бұрын
+Kelbypursuer ' it not just you
@markoplahuta8284
@markoplahuta8284 6 жыл бұрын
because you are lazy and think everything will just magically look solvable xD So you give up as soon as something starts looking more complicated than it was. First thing, you see people like patrick solve what they have either already solved or they have a lot of experience in solving and of course that it is gonna look like it's supposed to be easy. Secondly, most important thing is to know the basics. Yes, you can overcomplicate a problem to an extent at which you should start over or look up the answer, BUT, be sure that you have at least gotten to that point by using correct "mathematics" (aka didn't miss a minus, didn't do something that you can't with square roots etc. Basically don't integrate some function, before you know what that function is, how it behaves, how its plot looks, what can you do with it with some algebra . And do keep going, even when it looks like next step will require too much effort to do. You slowly train that way
@vanessasarahilizarragaoliv6591
@vanessasarahilizarragaoliv6591 4 жыл бұрын
hey nono, don´t feel like that, you must trust yourself, you´re learning so you are fixing your mistakes, it´s ok while you are understanding what you do
@DylanM333
@DylanM333 3 жыл бұрын
because calculus is a deep ocean of knowledge and you literally build billions of brain pathways to be successful.
@jacobbchapman5644
@jacobbchapman5644 2 жыл бұрын
Integrals are hard.
@hari8568
@hari8568 7 жыл бұрын
simply divide num and denom by e^x then we get e^-x+1 divide by e^-x -1 then add to num +1-1 and split integral we get integral e^-x /e^-x -1 + integral e^x /1-e^x.solving by substituting for both integrals by t=e^-x -1 andt=1-e^x in the end we get -log(e^-x -1)-log(1-e^x)
@Peter_1986
@Peter_1986 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome, integration is just what I need to practice for my exam in Linear Algebra & Integral Calculus. Thanks a lot.
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 11 жыл бұрын
yes, i will make one eventually ! it would be a great one to make, i agree
@nickthorpe7567
@nickthorpe7567 6 жыл бұрын
I split the numerator up into 1-ex+2ex so that I could split the fraction up into int[ 2ex/(1-ex) + (1-ex)/(1-ex) ]dx Then you get left with Int[2ex/(1-ex) + 1]dx Int[2ex/(1-ex)]dx + x Let u=1-ex Let du=-exdx -Int[2/u]du + x 2ln|u| + x 2ln[1-ex] + x + c Little bit more intuitive to me imo!
@JirivandenAssem
@JirivandenAssem Жыл бұрын
Yep for me 2
@executorarktanis2323
@executorarktanis2323 4 жыл бұрын
the first substitution was a eye opener
@ladicius
@ladicius 11 жыл бұрын
as a current student in differential equations, i have one bit of advice for you: try to find the staedtler liquid point 7 pens (that are actually a 0.4mm tip). as a user of the v5's for many semesters, the switch was absolutely fantastic for me. it's worth giving them a test run. thanks for the videos. i like watching them over breakfast some mornings.
@dreia2405
@dreia2405 8 жыл бұрын
you made this very easy integral complicated, just add e^x and subtract e^x from de numerator
@kkamous7278
@kkamous7278 8 жыл бұрын
yes I feel happy from your reply . I get lots of help from your integration videos. you're so genuine . tomorrow I have presentation in university and I got lots oh help from your video s.
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 11 жыл бұрын
and mainly, this is how i did it :) i do not claim it is the fastest, but i do claim it works.
@billwindsor4224
@billwindsor4224 8 жыл бұрын
Great explanations here, Patrick. I purchased the worksheet -- it's excellent (and inexpensive); I encourage you to develop more worksheets, and to give them more visibility in your video posts!
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 11 жыл бұрын
it does not have an elementary antiderivative ; you have to use series to do this
@flupypersonyui3488
@flupypersonyui3488 9 жыл бұрын
That's gold, Jerry! Gold!... I mean Patrick.
@Monadoabyss
@Monadoabyss 11 жыл бұрын
A quicker way: (1+e^x)/(1-e^x) is just -coth(x/2) which can be easily integrated as it's in the form f'(x)/f(x).
@ghostkr3676
@ghostkr3676 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks man..... I always wondered how to start..... and you cleared my doubt
@BubbleGumCMM
@BubbleGumCMM 11 жыл бұрын
i wanted a video for this! nice timing. THANKS PATRICK!
@edgaracosta9976
@edgaracosta9976 9 жыл бұрын
I'd just like to comment that there is a way to at least know how to approach one type of integration problem. If you are multiplying or dividing two functions of a different type, the only approach is integration by parts. For example, finding the integral of (x^2 + 2)(sinx) dx. This type of problem would be impossible to do through substitution because in the most general cases, you need the functions to be of the same type, that way you have a chance of figuring out which one is the derivative of which.
@fergusfs70
@fergusfs70 6 жыл бұрын
In your final answer you leave ln(e^x) which can just be written as x
@blackham7
@blackham7 5 жыл бұрын
But it helps us students see what's going on. He might know that but we might miss that.
@satrickptar6265
@satrickptar6265 5 жыл бұрын
I'm thanking my advanced algebra teacher in grade 9 ;-; it really helped me in integral calculus in grade 10!
@marcusrayrosales1
@marcusrayrosales1 7 жыл бұрын
This is way easier than shown here! First, multiply top and bottom by e^{-x/2}, so that: (1+e^x)/(1-e^x) becomes: -(e^{x/2}+e^{-x/2})/(e^{x/2}-e^{-x/2}) ==-cosh (x/2)/sinh (x/2) The integral is easily seen to be: -2ln [sinh (x/2)]■ knowledge of hyperbolic sines and cosines are not necessary here; just do the first step of multiplying by e^{-x/2}, then let u be the denominator. All so much easier than this video shows.
@jackmcclane6113
@jackmcclane6113 2 ай бұрын
I think you need to know that he’s not solving maths for himself, he is showing it to learners in details no need for a short way!!! When students understood the detailed procedures, then short way is now great.
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 11 жыл бұрын
the second you can do with a u sub, but you still need to do the same type of substitution i did (i think!) for the first one
@JirivandenAssem
@JirivandenAssem Жыл бұрын
Brother always see if u can write the numerator as the denominator. I immedoately see that u can add 2ex to the nominator to get 1-ex+2ex. Split integral and notice one is x and one is ln(1-ex) cos derivative of ex is ex In the end, a usub is not even needed !
@mohanarora1
@mohanarora1 9 жыл бұрын
You are amazing dude . Became a die hard fan of your s after this video
@baburo101
@baburo101 11 жыл бұрын
Finally, Pat's saving some trees!
@Darwinion
@Darwinion 6 жыл бұрын
Can that final answer be simplified to: x - 2ln(1-e^x) + c..... as ln (e^x) = x ???
@jmadluck
@jmadluck 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same but I'm not sure if the absolute value messes with that
@shashwatbajpai1350
@shashwatbajpai1350 4 жыл бұрын
You could have multiplied numerator and denominator by e^(-x/2) then you could have directly substituted your denominator as u then your numerator would have been - du and you would have got the answer in 3 steps
@lich2012
@lich2012 5 жыл бұрын
Hi friend. Good video. Could you explain the method for integrals with several sin and cos founctions where x must be changed for tan(t/2) (or something like that, i dont remember clear right now) please?
@soupisfornoobs4081
@soupisfornoobs4081 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that's called weierstrass substitution, you can look it up and get some interesting insights
@JirivandenAssem
@JirivandenAssem Жыл бұрын
Its the halfangle tangent substitution. Pretty easy, just check out wikipedia
@212ntruesdale
@212ntruesdale 6 жыл бұрын
You made a challenge out of a very easy integral if you make one very clever substitution. Instead of 1-e^x, make the numerator 1-e^x+2e^x. Then you have two integrals, intdx + 2int[e^x/1-e^x]. Couldn't be simpler!
@br5757
@br5757 10 жыл бұрын
You are a wonderful teacher!
@matblitz4637
@matblitz4637 7 жыл бұрын
you. can also use substitute x =-t and then do it
@amak1131
@amak1131 11 жыл бұрын
This is indeed the hard part of Calc 2. Actual problem aside (my Calc 2 professor gave crazy integrals to do), the hard part is which method to use.
@yasploofyh8358
@yasploofyh8358 2 жыл бұрын
Hows life now? What are you up to?
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 11 жыл бұрын
nope, never done anything at all with them.
@akarshansaraf721
@akarshansaraf721 5 жыл бұрын
You could have easily done by dividing numerator and denominator by e^x/2 and then substituting e^x/2+e^-x/2=u
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 11 жыл бұрын
then what
@mayahmed5476
@mayahmed5476 8 жыл бұрын
Your the best. I have a final tomorrow and ur video helped me alot
@prateekgurjar1651
@prateekgurjar1651 7 жыл бұрын
you're*
@yashwanthandaluri8934
@yashwanthandaluri8934 6 жыл бұрын
sollu
@asiyaishal
@asiyaishal 9 жыл бұрын
what if we take e^[x/2] out from both denominator & numerator..Then substitute the whole dnmtr term with 'u'....to get a integral [1/u]du form... #justAsking #student
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 11 жыл бұрын
age and allergies and new microphones all do that
@HotPepperLala
@HotPepperLala 11 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on Euler_substitution? And possibly Elliptic Integrals?
@OUSSA
@OUSSA 2 жыл бұрын
There is a much easier way in to write the top as 1-exp(x)+2exp(x) to simplify the integral and get 1+2(exp(x))/(1-exp(x))
@nascar12141
@nascar12141 11 жыл бұрын
I wish I had your awesome penmanship
@wyboo2019
@wyboo2019 3 жыл бұрын
im wondering if you could make it a trig integral by letting x = iu, and then e^x = cos(u) + i sin(u), but im not sure too what extent this is mathematically rigorous
@venkateshmangrulkar4776
@venkateshmangrulkar4776 6 жыл бұрын
In denominator quadratic is compulsory in partial fraction thats why i don't understand why u solve this by partial fraction
@dannyawesome63
@dannyawesome63 3 жыл бұрын
I took Calculus at UC Davis back in 2015... and man.. I don’t remember any of this LMAOO
@hamid-we7vs
@hamid-we7vs 2 жыл бұрын
At 4:40 , could you have used the reverse chain rule after doing the u-substitution ?
@Chemicalsworld76
@Chemicalsworld76 8 жыл бұрын
Poti you work very good
@Andr295
@Andr295 11 жыл бұрын
You rock bro
@peregrinefal6607
@peregrinefal6607 11 жыл бұрын
Why not split the first problem to: 1/(1-e^x) + e^x/(1-e^x) ?
@guitarttimman
@guitarttimman 5 жыл бұрын
Very good.
@crazyphil7782
@crazyphil7782 7 жыл бұрын
The easiest way to do this is using hyperbolic identies. 1 + e^x = e^(x/2) [ e^(x/2) + e^-(x/2) ] 1 - e^x = e^(x/2) [ e^-(x/2) - e^(x/2) ] So it is basically -1/tanh(x), and integrating that is child's play.
@ComandaKronikk
@ComandaKronikk 6 жыл бұрын
dude thats what i thought immediately!
@ComandaKronikk
@ComandaKronikk 6 жыл бұрын
still really helpful video
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 6 жыл бұрын
7:47 you can't be serious! You should know that ln(e^x)=x, and e^x is always positive for all real x, so you can't tell me it is in absolute value because abs(e^x)=e^x no matter which value x has.
@DrHansPeterWurst
@DrHansPeterWurst 11 жыл бұрын
that one is really fun...
@and_still.
@and_still. 6 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed you. Thanx from India.
@japori2000
@japori2000 11 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes. Just the video I needed!!
@kkamous7278
@kkamous7278 8 жыл бұрын
you are the great man. I love your work. you work for human. I love u so much. alas I meet with you . . I watch your video's. I think you are the best man in world of mathematics. May you live long. my prayer with you.
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 8 жыл бұрын
+Muhammad Kamran Khan thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it :)
@sandyshores8921
@sandyshores8921 Жыл бұрын
thank you.
@cypher4528
@cypher4528 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man, the question (1+e^x)/(1-e^x) Is it OK if I possibly solved it by splitting it into 1/(1-e^x)+e^x/(1-e^x) Where I multiply (e^-x) to numerator and denominator of 1/(1-e^x) And gave (1-e^x)=t and e^x dx= -dt to e^x/(1-e^x)?
@damianflett6360
@damianflett6360 3 жыл бұрын
No. I do not permit it
@JC-cu2ym
@JC-cu2ym 6 жыл бұрын
@patrickJMT cant we use Quotient rule to solve this example?? Instead of substitution?
@EverydayXperiment
@EverydayXperiment 11 жыл бұрын
I wish I was this good!
@cypher4528
@cypher4528 6 жыл бұрын
I only noticed that you are Left Handed after watching 10 of your videos.
@jacobbchapman5644
@jacobbchapman5644 2 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between an Integral and an improper Integral?
@OUSSA
@OUSSA 2 жыл бұрын
Improper means it has an infinity in one of its boundaries or both
@sophiacarryl
@sophiacarryl 11 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on the second theorem of calculus?
@hadireg
@hadireg 8 жыл бұрын
great job! thanks!
@mengnjoeusebia1335
@mengnjoeusebia1335 4 жыл бұрын
Please could you just create a mnemonic for that method
@mengnjoeusebia1335
@mengnjoeusebia1335 4 жыл бұрын
I got it "kuit a trip"
@murugesankgm1297
@murugesankgm1297 5 жыл бұрын
you could do it by rationalising it and resolving
@beta5770
@beta5770 11 жыл бұрын
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
@cepson
@cepson 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird to me that this problem can be solved by letting u = 0, when u is really e to the x and can't be 0. Yet it works.
@theBang4thebuck
@theBang4thebuck 5 жыл бұрын
I’m in calc 2 and I’m about to throw in the towel
@gozao100
@gozao100 11 жыл бұрын
i have a question is it normal a function to have more then one integral form?i mean a did this exercise and the result was x-2log(1-e^x)+c and it's the same result when i derive this or am i doing something wrong?
@TheHateraboi
@TheHateraboi 11 жыл бұрын
can you do a video on e^(pi i) = -1??
@alexgabel4379
@alexgabel4379 11 жыл бұрын
please try to solve ∫e^(-x^2) dx. There's a way to solve it using a 2nd dimension (by squaring the whole thing) and then you get: ∫∫e^(-x^2-y^2) dxdy, but then I get stuck...
@lezero211
@lezero211 9 жыл бұрын
Hmmm can't seem to understand the part where you used ln to solve for dx
@kyler2532
@kyler2532 9 жыл бұрын
well it is the relationship between exponents and logarithms. When you multiply ln to e^x ( ln(e^x) ) you will get x. Also in order to make the equals sign true he multiplied the other side with ln. His way is much easier than trying to solve the integral when both u and du=e^x
@algebrayd
@algebrayd 11 жыл бұрын
are you the same person who does the cengagebrain solution videos??
@PranayMundra
@PranayMundra 7 жыл бұрын
You could add and subtract e^x in the numerator and then take 1-e^x/1-e^x as one integral and the other as 2e^x/1-e^x where the substitution looks more familiar.
@veggiekeller
@veggiekeller 9 жыл бұрын
For the problem finding the integral of (1 +e^x)/(1-e^x) why couldn't you just break up the fraction at the beginning and integrate 2 fractions (1/1-e^x) + (e^x/1-e^x)
@HamzaDjeloud
@HamzaDjeloud 6 жыл бұрын
This is a very easy way Thank you
@chasegregory1328
@chasegregory1328 5 жыл бұрын
For every percent I get over 50% on my exam tomorrow, I'll donate $1.
@blackham7
@blackham7 5 жыл бұрын
Can I have the money
@damianflett6360
@damianflett6360 3 жыл бұрын
How much did you donate
@Grantbraner
@Grantbraner 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mr. Woody
@iBoom3RxX
@iBoom3RxX 10 жыл бұрын
At 6:34, where did the denominator of -1 come from?
@LoneWolfKTG
@LoneWolfKTG 10 жыл бұрын
From the second u-sub that he shows immediately after...
@iBoom3RxX
@iBoom3RxX 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@LoneWolfKTG
@LoneWolfKTG 10 жыл бұрын
Ginzaki no prob!
@LoneWolfKTG
@LoneWolfKTG 10 жыл бұрын
Ginzaki oh and Dark Souls ftw !
@ch0vits
@ch0vits 10 жыл бұрын
gonna watch the partial fractions to understand this:)
@shahriarfardin777
@shahriarfardin777 8 жыл бұрын
they are o level math how you can hope to watch this without learning those cuz integration is a level one
@idiosyncraticidiott5015
@idiosyncraticidiott5015 11 жыл бұрын
Cuz we all recognize -coth(x/2) when we see it
@rsmith5645
@rsmith5645 7 жыл бұрын
How do I integrate 1/(x^1/3+x^1/4)+ln(1+x^1/6)/(x^1/3+x^1/2)dx?
@damianflett6360
@damianflett6360 3 жыл бұрын
Do you still need to know
@JS-ns8dr
@JS-ns8dr 3 жыл бұрын
@@damianflett6360 LMAOOO
@damianflett6360
@damianflett6360 3 жыл бұрын
@@JS-ns8dr can’t believe they never got back to me.
@realitycheck816
@realitycheck816 4 жыл бұрын
Lol you could have just divided the numerator and denominator by e^x. Then it becomes an easy log integration. 3 lines maximum lmao
@bcarray
@bcarray 9 жыл бұрын
what kind of pen is that? i had a same one and loved it but i can't find one anymore :'(
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 9 жыл бұрын
+bcarray www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=precise+7+pen that might be of help
@wolfgangi
@wolfgangi 7 жыл бұрын
I fucking hate integration by parts especially my memory is wiped out by my crippling alcoholism lol
@sineadh1994
@sineadh1994 10 жыл бұрын
where did the absolute value signs come from?? i understood it until there
@Peter_1986
@Peter_1986 10 жыл бұрын
The absolute value signs make the natural logarithm more general, so that it is valid for negative value of u as well. If you try comparing ln(u) and ln|u| on a graphing calculator then you can see this more clearly.
@lucasm4299
@lucasm4299 9 жыл бұрын
When we have 1/x and take the antiderivative we have to take into account the domain of the antiderivative. Derivative Ln(x) - 1/x The ln(x) domain is x>0 The values of 1/x respect the domain Antiderivative 1/x - Ln(x) The domain of 1/x is all numbers except 0, ln(x) can't take negative numbers so we have to find a way to extend its domain. |x| solves that problem. If you were wondering, d/dx ln|x| = 1/x
@fastchill
@fastchill 11 жыл бұрын
an other option you should consider is partial integration.
@someshrao1087
@someshrao1087 6 жыл бұрын
sir, please give practice sheet free of cost ..please.
@baharosman1416
@baharosman1416 4 жыл бұрын
Derivatives are more lovely than integrations 😅
@JS-ns8dr
@JS-ns8dr 3 жыл бұрын
hmm yeah true
@kkamous7278
@kkamous7278 8 жыл бұрын
I am really feel so happy because you reply me
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 8 жыл бұрын
ha, glad i could make you happy :)
@zhubarb
@zhubarb 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this is elementary and useful information.
@patrickjmt
@patrickjmt 11 жыл бұрын
ah, in that case, i will just delete all my videos ;)
@sabithasasikumar239
@sabithasasikumar239 11 жыл бұрын
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@JanCRefsgaard
@JanCRefsgaard 11 жыл бұрын
of course not!, then we run the risk of google suddenly not knowing!
@ghost880106
@ghost880106 11 жыл бұрын
I love the pens that you use. Just saying. Haha
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