What is Apostolic Succession?

Fr. Robert Whitaker explains Apostolic Succession and why it's important.
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[@mitchellc4]

Hello You have to understand that people may already know this, they just think at some point errors came in and it went astray I think the problem is not people going around saying “I don’t want to follow apostolic tradition!” Nobody does that The problem people have is that they don’t think Catholic tradition lines up with apostolic tradition Obviously a lot of people didn’t or you wouldn’t have hundreds of years of ecumenical councils For example, there’s no evidence of asking the dead for intercession until 300AD, so people are going to question that and disagree with the practice Claiming unbroken succession doesn’t mean there’s no hesitation of teachings See the Pharisees, who might claim unbroken succession to Moses, yet we know Jesus rebuked their false traditions

[@obi_onekenobi5322]

The Eduardine Ordinal broke Anglican Apostolic Succession for valid orders. This schismatic church lost Apostolic succession in 1552.

[@kevinrtres]

Right off the bat, the answer to "what is an apostle" is incorrect and leaves out a whole lot of vital information regarding the qualities of an apostle. When one looks at the characteristics of the relationship between Jesus and the Apostles, the following is clear form the bible: 1.a. Jesus appointed them personally. 1.b. They had met Jesus on a face to face basis. 2. They were in Jesus' presence since his baptism ( except for Paul ) 3. They were all *_EYEWITNESSES_* to his miracles and his ascension on a cloud into heaven - (except Paul). 4. Paul is the special case - he saw the RISEN LORD and met Him face to face and was appointed BY JESUS himself, just as all the others!!!! This is all made very clear in the choosing of Matthias - Acts 1:21-26. The requirement put forth by the apostles was that the replacement of Judas was to be a man who had been with them since Jesus' baptism all thru his ascension. Furthermore, The LORD CHOSE him after the prayer of the apostles thru the drawing of lots. Note also the PURPOSE for the requirement - he had to bear eyewitness testimony to the truth! So, there is absolutely no way for any other human being to have met those requirements after the original apostles had moved on. IT is not possible for an existing apostle to appoint another as his successor. Only Jesus can make a direct appointment. Hence, it should be clear - *_there was and still is no apostolic succession_* - it's clearly impossible. Hence the whole premise of the *_ROMAN_* catholic church's existence is *_FALSE._*

[@Elijahs-iy3zq]

He is anglican, man.

[@kevinrtres]

@Ualeai Sekupe and just who would those "early church fathers" be? Care to be much more specific re. reading matter? Even if they were early church fathers, their interpretation could be flawed. Just like I've heard that Martin Luther believed that Mary was sinless ( I haven't verified that yet). If he did believe that then he made a mistake in following church dogma instead of what was in the bible.

[@kevinrtres]

@Ualeai Sekupe Friend, if you cannot explain it then you do not understand it. Perhaps you should understand that there is no apostolic succession? Acts 1:19-27 give you clear indication. EDIT: 19-26, there is no verse 27!

[@kevinrtres]

@Ualeai Sekupe All I can say is if it's not biblical or if it's decidedly anti-biblical, then I reject it.

[@kevinrtres]

@Ualeai Sekupe Well, if you're going to resort to such generalities perhaps you should justify your statements from the bible itself - with your own interpretation, not that of the so-called "fathers". From my perspective we have an interesting parallel to draw from: 1. There were supposedly 12 tribes of Israel. 2. There were supposedly 12 apostles. We know that based on that, there will be 12 foundations in the New Jerusalem representing the 12 apostles and 12 Gates representing the Israelites. So where do those other newly created successive apostles fit in? That just one small issue. I'd like to read your justification for what you said in order to contradict my statement that there just cannot BE any apostolic succession. Please.

[@rbnmnt3341]

A Catholic lie.