WHAT IS FOR YOU ? TUBES vs MOUSSES vs TUBLISS

[@chrispewkreme]

Tubliss is awesome for adjusting pressure. But nearly every Tubliss rider I’ve talked to has had never ending leak issues. The front is useless. My bike has one on and I’m just gonna put a tube up there. Tubes are reliable and solid but maybe only for smooth clean trails and tracks. But I’ve pinched so many tubes and gotten thorns in tires. Mousse is an absolute must for hard enduro and trails.

[@mikemallory8892]

It really comes down to the feel of the bike and what you're looking for and what kind of Terrain you're running in! When I'm running heavy tubes I running down about 8 lb in the rear and 12 in the front. I run mooses in the rear of my bikes but never in the front, Moose's in the front tire feel dead to me!

[@painsrides3616]

For the tight, rocky and mostly muddy terrain we have here in New England I prefer for the rear: TuBliss with a Shinko 525 or Tusk Recon @ 5-7psi and up front: Ultra HD tube with a Shinko MX216 Fatty-Cheater @ 11-12psi

[@Papparratzi]

If you can’t afford to have a flat, Mousse is the best choice unless you’re riding on hot highways for many miles. Their biggest downside is weight and the gyroscopic affect on higher speed trails and lack of feel. Tubliss work just fine in the front so long as you have a good 4 ply tire and aren’t running below 8 psi. Tubliss are great for Dual Sport riding. Most punctures can be repaired with a plug trailside, or by a sealing product like Slime. Downside is a catastrophic failure caused by too low psi in the bladder which usually rips the valve stem. Tubes are still a favor no nonsense system, but they are the most vulnerable front pinched tubes or nail punctures. Though Mousse does add weight, you won’t have to carry a spare tube or tire irons.

[@timmychen6]

Very good opinion, thanks. After 3 non-repairable flat tires with tubliss within 6 hours of riding, I’ve finally come to this step

[@jortizdeu]

Just to mention than the blue tubeless shown is the NomOusse pro system. With it you can run from flat to more than 1,5 bar - even on the trail model 2,5" wide rims - without danger to damage your rim, as NomOusse protrudes 3 cm from it. The tubeless systems works very well with non extra soft tires. Mitas Terraforte green line or Michelin Medium are perfect for extreme (0,2 or 0,3 bar). Pirelli Scorpion medium-soft for normal enduro and hard tires for desert. ¿Expensive systems? not as much as some mousses and you can reuse a lot of times, even changin tire wide (140 /120/100), adjusting the pressure, not speed or temperature depending.

[@chrispewkreme]

I’ve had two bikes with Tubliss and they’re a pain. They always seem to leak no matter what. The local shop near me is constantly fixing them. Or removing them to put tubes back in. Tubes are easy but also too easy to pinch or damage on installations and they add up. Mousse seems like a set it and forget it. But you can’t ever air up for the road and air down for the trail and fine tune it. Mousse all day.

[@chadrides914]

Interesting you haven’t mentioned the Lucioli you were testing. Thanks for the videos and tips!

[@TheDirtbikeRider]

It's a good system, but it's not that popular. I plan to make a video about it, next to it there is also traxy, and a few more systems for the rear wheel. But mousses,tubes and tubeless is most used by enduro riders.

[@eugrules]

Nitro-Mousses all the way. If you don't race, they last long enough. Tubliss = reliability through continual maintenance(gotta check and refill the tire each ride)

[@onthethrottle7104]

Not refill the tire, but check the pressure and top it off (the red high pressure side).

[@eugrules]

@@onthethrottle7104 most of the time the high pressure red tube is most the time fine. I Found that I had to check the tire (low pressure) EVERY RIDE.

[@pakoymotovlogs9382]

i wish i can too

[@Innaki16]

Mau om

[@gkling33]

commentator voice ANNOYING AS HELL. You're not doing a voice e introduction for the latest action movie...chill out and talk like a normal person

[@heily-3806]

Lost me when you started talking about bars instead of psi 😢

[@Papparratzi]

I’ll drink to that

[@simonsimon4131]

First thing I read, glad he uses Bar 😅

[@rezkidgamingyt4725]

One bar is about 14.5038 psi according to Google lol

[@ryanbell4952]

@@rezkidgamingyt4725completely depends on what its being put in lol

[@finrampe]

You forgot to mention that different solution works better on different terrain. If it's all rocks and especially those slim rocks that can get pushed between rim and tire mousse is the only way. Tubliss is good allrounder and perfect for everyday training since it's easy to add air for fast speed and lower for slow stuff. I've run 150+hrs (5 tire sets and counting) on single tubliss setup front and rear with zero problems. Mostly hard enduro with low pressure soft tire but also one tire set faster trail riding. Same rims haved moved between bikes 150tpi, 250tpi, 350exc, 500exc. I would recommend tubliss front and rear for any hobbyist who doesn't make their living by winning races. Mousses are obviously the best but require more testing and maybe drilling them softer and need additional rimlock for soft tires. Mousse lube is the key to expand lifetime and they do shrink over time and get softer up to point when they are just too small. Some riders cut them and add piece between to extend lifetime even more. Set of mousses should be fine for few sets of tires so for many hobbyist this can mean years. For pros mousse is the only way since it's the only one that can't get puncture and with two or even three locks tire will stay on even if mousse has exploded. Tubes are only good if there is no sharp things on the way and with proper mounting hd tubes can also serve without problems. Most common issue with hd tubes is ripped valve - this is mounting fault, hd tubes move a lot more that thin ones and you never ever should add the nut against rim. Good thing with tubes is that they can be easily fixed when punctured just remember to add tape over a patch on hd tubes since they tend to rub the patch off without additional protective layer on top. Always good to remember it's 80% rider 20% bike. And if we assume tires would count say 25% of bikes share it would be only 5% of total. Flat or otherwise broken tire still means 100% lose - weird mathematics isn't it?

[@TheDirtbikeRider]

Great comment, lots of useful information. I found rear tire with tubliss is really easy to change, but on front its really pain. Of course the terrain and the rider choose what suits them best, some people dont love mousses in front because more heavy feeling when they turn handlebar.

[@ThisTall]

Sounds like tubliss is the only option for anyone that needs to do any amount of street to access or connect trails. And to be honest, having to check air pressure every ride sounds like a small price to pay for balance and easy patching with plugs vs a tube fix on the trail.

[@Mxbdt]

What about for a dual sport bike that's around a 80/20 dirt vs street use?

[@hoosierdaddy2468]

I use heavy duty tubes and replace them every time I replace tires. I know Tubliss and pretty sure mousse are not DOT approved. Not a big deal until authorities are investigating an accident, but….

[@markjeepingful]

Bummer….

[@Ozfreerider_adventures]

A whole video featuring mousse and you never mention the extreme weight it adds to wheels and makes bike feel 10 kgs heavier because of the gyro

[@danieldrabek1896]

I use tennis balls(foam) from Decathlon and tubliss 😀

[@infidelmat]

For the rear I use Tubliss with an undersized NitroMousse Soft (110 mousse with 120 tire). This way I get a super stable sidewall, with a soft tire crown, can increase pressure if needed and get full flat protection. It's great for tires like the Ibex which tend to tear knobs making tubliss only not suitable.

[@Errol.C-nz]

WTF is tubliss ?

[@jimiemick]

i have heard of a few people doing that and they loved it, gives them great grip and can still adjust pressure when riding faster terrain

[@ThisTall]

Ty bliss and a mousse in the same tire?

[@Matthew-wn8oq]

You.cant get.a.pinch flat.with tubliss.,.you can run 0 psi like a run flat., the inner high pressure tube holds.110psi and keeps your bead locked on. Run flat!

[@thailandmopedadventures611]

Thanks for sharing! My question: For Hard Enduro - Rear Tire with Tubliss and Front Tire with Heavy Tube, correct?

[@TheDirtbikeRider]

I use for training tubliss on rear, for front tubes if i use 90/100-21 tyres. And mousse in front if i do really aggressive riding on rocks. Mousses are really good on rear but after you have some hours on it, then it’s really soft but don’t last long

[@thailandmopedadventures611]

@@TheDirtbikeRider Many thanks - highly appreciated your Insights

[@EnduroNerd]

Mousses require regular lubrication?? You make it sound like you have to remove the tyre to lubricate them. I can guarantee you that your tyre will not outlast your lubrication. Any good tyre shop will automatically apply lube when changing the tyre negating the need to ever do it yourself. If you're not sure, just ask them to add lubricant. It takes 30 seconds to lubricate your mousse if you change your own tyre. It's really not even note worthy.

[@maxholzer6754]

i like Blow mousse that much !

[@LuckyNikitaBoba]

You were very fast speaking wise. Please slow down a little bit. What’s wrong with using Tubliss in front? I don’t race.

[@Huski-i7p]

Puedes cortar muy rapido el neumatico en una roca o escalones por esto es preferible mousse delante

[@TheDirtbikeRider]

Its more easy to get pinch flat with tubliss, mousses are better for front. And tubliss is really good for rear tyre

[@johnkol]

@@TheDirtbikeRider Pinch flat with Tubliss?? Maybe you're confused, Tubliss does not use tubes, so it's impossible to get a pinch flat.

[@tonn333]

​@@TheDirtbikeRiderplease explain

[@onthethrottle7104]

I've run everything and tubes are not reliable for hard riding and in real tough conditions (rocks, sticks, and sharp objects). Tubliss are great front and rear, they are super light and I've never had an issue with anything tubliss. I do top off my high side ai pressure each ride, which only takes a minute. And for moose, I love those too. I've run moose front and rear and they were awesome, just a little heavy and yes, they can wear out fast. The other thing you did not mention, moose can be hard to keep balanced and take a lot of weights to balance, so if you hit road sections and don't want our wheel bouncing about, go with tubliss and they balance super easy.

[@chenn714]

Mousses all day long… 0% chance of puncture and you can adjust pressure with drilling holes to make softer or using a strip of yoga mat to make firmer. 🤙🏼

[@matheusrgomes]

What tube Thickness is recommended for the Front tire/wheel? new into the dirtbike/endure scene. Thanks

[@Montana_Motorized]

Why do you need two rim locks with a rear mousse? Will the tire spin on the rim and damage the bib? I've run tubliss front and rear for years without much trouble but trying bibs to compare.

[@fryzz57]

Tubeliss is very good👍👍

[@HalfHourOfPower]

UHD tubes and OKO in them 👍🏻 I use to run mooses for years but tubes are much better

[@OGPokey151]

For the moose, I see lots of people drilling holes in the foam. It’s about as soft as 1-2psi. They ride over boulders etc. it feels like a mounted tire with no air in it.

[@gustavoflores1208]

Question.... Will Tubliss 18 fot on a 120/90/18 tire since is wider thats my concern Thanks 🙌🏼

[@TheDirtbikeRider]

Everything will work out, don't worry

[@BD-ww7go]

Can't be a CR without a stinger hanging off the back

[@fishwhisperer03]

Just learn to change tubes , really is easy , even on the trail , true story

[@tpv59]

Do you carry ALL the gear??? Mallet, tire levers, tube, pump, spanners/tools, etc, etc?????????? Thanks.

[@fishwhisperer03]

@@tpv59 matter of fact yes , small backpack , spanner and mallet are not needed by the way , again true story

[@tpv59]

@@fishwhisperer03 GREAT to hear. GOOD on you.

[@roby_5259]

Luccioli and nothing else

[@YouThinkAboutThis]

Bibliss tube locks for roads. Got it.

[@v_for_2191]

whats best as a starter? Mousse or Tubes?

[@patrikgazic5683]

What is best 19" enduro tyre

[@Cross-Country-Biker]

I use bib mouse, nitro so far very good

[@redminote9s302]

very fun The car must be ready.

[@nacelaharnar8814]

Traxy is the best💪💪

[@garydetaeye7081]

i run 12 psi

[@richardfilippi8977]

Mousses

[@daveyboy7305]

Mousses for me , just forget about em and ride .

[@MuaythaiLee]

What are they like on tarmac? I'm picking up a bike that have mousses on but I'm probably going to be riding 60/40 road.. I'd it worth changing them?

[@briandevore801]

Tublis

[@wandersoncrf250f8]

Vc e 10 mano

[@anonimanonim3675]

How much more grip does 90/100/21 tire have, compared to the 90/90/21

[@TheDirtbikeRider]

It absorbs more hits from stones, and gives a lot more grip to the downhills. But 90/90 is better for extreme muddy terrain. 90/100 works best in dry terrain and lot of rocks and logs.

[@יהודהנוף]

Is it ok to use a super soft tire for tubeless?

[@TheDirtbikeRider]

yes i use it also sometimes

[@יהודהנוף]

@@TheDirtbikeRider Which do you recommend for enduro Mud,rocky terrain?

[@AlaTrick]

What about luciolli?

[@TheDirtbikeRider]

The system is less popular, so I didn't want to comment on it. There will be a video about it soon, and a few more systems that people don't know about.

[@niels116]

You recommend two rim locks on rear tubliss?

[@finrampe]

Tubliss doesn't need any additional rimlocks - tubliss is '360 deg rimlock' by it's nature. 2 locks for soft mousses rear and front.

[@MrFritz6940]

The few AA riders I know say theres no need for 2. I run bibs. 1 rimlock in year and none up front

[@TheDirtbikeRider]

two rim lock if you use supersoft mousse or tube. With tubeless you don't need anything extra.

[@vasilisdedes5100]

Mousses for peace of mind! Tubliss is vulnerable and too expensive. Heavy-duty tubes are a better option as you can adjust the pressure, still they are susceptible to punctures. So, mousses for peace of mind!

[@TheDirtbikeRider]

I am very happy with the mousse in front, but on rear i always used super soft mousses and they dont last long. That's why I prefer a system that can do more hours like tubliss. But for races I always go for mousse because I have no problem with them.

[@Errol.C-nz]

Tubliss !!?????.. 😅😂😱.. for starters it's Tubeless

[@Realstealfan]

No the brand is called Tubliss.