What Is IMPERMANENT LOSS? DEFI Explained - Uniswap, Curve, Balancer, Bancor

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Finematics

Finematics

3 жыл бұрын

Have you ever provided liquidity to a liquidity pool just to realise that some of your coins have gone missing? In this video, we’ll learn what “impermanent loss” is and how it can affect liquidity providers’ profits.
In essence, impermanent loss is a temporary loss of funds occurring when providing liquidity. It’s very often explained as a difference between holding an asset versus providing liquidity in that asset. Impermanent loss is usually observed in standard liquidity pools where the liquidity provider (LP) has to provide both assets in a correct ratio, and one of the assets is volatile in relation to the other, for example, in a Uniswap DAI/ETH 50/50 liquidity pool.
If ETH goes up in value, the pool has to rely on arbitrageurs continually ensuring that the pool price reflects the real-world price to maintain the same value of both tokens in the pool. This basically leads to a situation where profit from the token that appreciated in value is taken away from the liquidity provider. At this point, if the LP decides to withdraw their liquidity, the impermanent loss becomes permanent.
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@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
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@90nomads
@90nomads 3 жыл бұрын
I got wrecked on AMPL/ETH pool - such bad timing 😥
@anon-jo5gm
@anon-jo5gm 3 жыл бұрын
What happens in the "opposite" scenario where token A increases in price and token B remains the same? What happens if both tokens increase in value? (Can't find the answer anywhere)
@jadeemme3697
@jadeemme3697 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, would you be able to explain how APRs are calculated/executed for LP providers? Some of those APRs listed are insanely highly, like 1000% APR. Is that too good to be true, and how do the LPers accrue this APR? Through tokens? Through the coins they put into the LP?
@siralexbateman
@siralexbateman 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, do you effectively get more if the opposite happened? The coin value goes down. Do you get the coins back plus more $?
@AlexTrout79
@AlexTrout79 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been affected by both impermanent and permanent loss
@fatjohn1408
@fatjohn1408 3 жыл бұрын
I could listen to you saying 'arbitrageur' all day.
@rafaelfarcher6955
@rafaelfarcher6955 3 жыл бұрын
My new notification sound.
@bloodthyrsty
@bloodthyrsty 3 жыл бұрын
@@rafaelfarcher6955 :D :D
@trapOrdoom
@trapOrdoom 3 жыл бұрын
On my life!
@randomvids9388
@randomvids9388 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@atletiekcoach2552
@atletiekcoach2552 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@scottPL77
@scottPL77 3 жыл бұрын
I've already gone through two videos on your channels and both explained to me difficult concepts which I failed before to understand by reading about them. Thanks for that. Really good ratio of knowledge shared vs. video length :)
@gwho
@gwho 2 жыл бұрын
This didn't explain jack.
@BillBlackfund4u
@BillBlackfund4u 2 жыл бұрын
@@gwho Made sense to me...
@crvne
@crvne 2 жыл бұрын
o0o I love that! knowledge:vid Length is a new key metric imo.
@cryptomadness7271
@cryptomadness7271 2 жыл бұрын
@@gwho go back to one of his beginner videos.
@Hopeyoumakeit
@Hopeyoumakeit 3 жыл бұрын
your channel is a gem
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
thanks! 🙌
@youtubeismyjockey7581
@youtubeismyjockey7581 3 жыл бұрын
Well explained, the calculation example really helps!
@theprez77
@theprez77 3 жыл бұрын
Its great that Count Von Count is teaching Defi to the kids.. Great vids, thank you kindly for making, but sorry had to do it.
@JustMe-dw9rl
@JustMe-dw9rl 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I’ve just found these videos. You explain everything in a succinct way with all the pertinent information. Thank you! It should help a lot of people.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Bashar3A
@Bashar3A 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm holding on to some volatile assets I'm expecting to raise in price in near future, and thus reluctant to putting it in pools.
@clearlybehind
@clearlybehind 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Fantastic video. Arbitrageur part was explained in simple terms which was helpful putting together the whole concept.
@geekkstuff6674
@geekkstuff6674 2 жыл бұрын
Finally understood permanent loss. Better than most videos on the topic. Loves the examples on how much you can lose.
@Gibonsli
@Gibonsli 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the professionalism!
@nonamedlish
@nonamedlish 3 жыл бұрын
Thank youman, I finally understand. Trying to learn this by reading about it was a nightmare
@MrGrannyStylez
@MrGrannyStylez 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for explaining that concept in 10minutes! I like the visuals. keep up the good work :)
@jeromio21
@jeromio21 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man , you are making Defi really accessible for everybody :)
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thanks :)
@tyvaughnholness1985
@tyvaughnholness1985 2 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic, thank you! I appreciated the detail on the examples as well.
@Finematics
@Finematics 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@elhexidente9832
@elhexidente9832 3 жыл бұрын
Cant believe i didn't find this channel earlier! Thank you!
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found it now :)
@theflipside2709
@theflipside2709 3 жыл бұрын
Clear, succinct explanation!
@mattdhorstman
@mattdhorstman 3 жыл бұрын
Clear, concise, well-illustrated example. Well done.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
thanks! :)
@jeremyhazel9074
@jeremyhazel9074 2 жыл бұрын
Man.....subscribed...you killed it....love the way you explained the concepts
@tobiprivat8878
@tobiprivat8878 3 жыл бұрын
great! totally underrated content!!
@GreenfieldPortfolioResearch
@GreenfieldPortfolioResearch 2 жыл бұрын
i'm amazed by the quality of the content. congratulations, yet again.
@alainlavallee3448
@alainlavallee3448 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a clear explanation , great
@nada347_
@nada347_ 2 жыл бұрын
Liked and subscribed. Thank you for explaining these so effectively.
@jesseallan9006
@jesseallan9006 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. Thank you!
@beny.5736
@beny.5736 3 жыл бұрын
I guess the key lesson is that if you are providing liquidity, do so in assets that are expected to maintain their relative value over the long term if you don't want to suffer from impermanent loss.
@gnarxy
@gnarxy 3 жыл бұрын
but you're missing the point of the LP tokens. Say you are doing a SOME TOKEN/DAI pair.. and providing the liquidity. DAI is a stable coin.. so even if SOME TOKEN goes up 500% in value, which would give you impermanent loss of about 25% of SOME TOKEN. But you also received the LP token for that pull and are farming more of SOME TOKEN at a 2000% APY, the additional SOME TOKENS you are earning and able to harvest, far outweigh the impermanent loss.
@mr.november1857
@mr.november1857 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know that they’re going to maintain their relative value? You don’t. Especially if it’s two assets you’re providing - making it that much challenging. The incentives I believe and the lack of fear can help - just don’t know anyone knows if anyone knows anything tbh
@parrishdominguez3495
@parrishdominguez3495 2 жыл бұрын
@@gnarxy If you see this comment can you look at my question I posted up top :), I think you just answered my question. Is it fair to say if the APY is higher than the Impermanent Loss, and assuming the Assets didnt drop to 0. Profits will be made?
@Showmetheevidence-
@Showmetheevidence- 2 жыл бұрын
True, except crypto is - by it's nature - so volatile that it's almost impossible to predict. Stable coins might be the only ones that have any level of stability. Pesonally I think for smaller investors you're actually better off just staking coins.
@Showmetheevidence-
@Showmetheevidence- 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.november1857 They're mostly making it up! No-one can accurately predict the ratios of coin values...
@omidsarayanibafghi222
@omidsarayanibafghi222 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos! You have a talent to comprehend and explain hard to grasp concepts in a brief yet comprehensive format.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@aaronfreeman4144
@aaronfreeman4144 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is awesome. I'm grateful for your expertise and time.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great to hear :)
@Molecularjewelry
@Molecularjewelry 2 жыл бұрын
still the clearest explaination I can find - visuals help thanks
@gutzz12
@gutzz12 3 жыл бұрын
very informative always buddy thanks
@KylanHurt
@KylanHurt 3 жыл бұрын
Very high quality video. Thanks you for making!
@soundisfunction
@soundisfunction 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is truly phenomenal
@GabrielRubens
@GabrielRubens 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, this channel is a hidden gem
@gmanova
@gmanova 3 жыл бұрын
what a fantastic explanation. thank you.
@HippiePajon
@HippiePajon 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I finally understand this topic
@marcelchuo
@marcelchuo 3 жыл бұрын
Best explainer video on DeFi out there. Thanks man
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@lucsu1428
@lucsu1428 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for the explanation and the cool graphic!
@mcJayX
@mcJayX 3 жыл бұрын
AMAZING video. Thanks for posting.
@oveyshd
@oveyshd 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos, great illustration! Very educative. Thank you
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad they are helpful :)
@blackalert3383
@blackalert3383 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. Would love to see another video on impermanent loss when it’s a non-stablecoin so two volatile cryptos. And any tips on managing that
@stevenxalchemy5906
@stevenxalchemy5906 3 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video. Well explained on impermanent loss. Keep up the fab work!!!!
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steven! :)
@JohnAlanWoods
@JohnAlanWoods 2 жыл бұрын
Great video - I send this to anyone that needs to understand IL.
@Mike-cr1nc
@Mike-cr1nc 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this my friend, will recommend you !
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you too!
@elleobi
@elleobi 2 жыл бұрын
This was really helpful. Thank you!
@viurnne
@viurnne 3 жыл бұрын
great lengthy detail explanations
@GabrielEnema
@GabrielEnema Жыл бұрын
Great info, your explanations are super easy to assimilate☺☺☺
@J_Arthur_
@J_Arthur_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! Would love to see one on Polkaswap And Sora! :)
@agentlier6974
@agentlier6974 3 жыл бұрын
You know your stuff really well man. Great in information 👍👍👍👍
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ic3b3rgi23
@ic3b3rgi23 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video man, like always 💯
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@CedricAbeck
@CedricAbeck 3 жыл бұрын
So clear, thank you so much !!!
@richardscott724
@richardscott724 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Awesome explanation….keep up the good work…
@TheRollupCo
@TheRollupCo 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is amazing, very interesting DeFi video
@kenmeyer100
@kenmeyer100 2 жыл бұрын
Very valuable explanation! I have been wading through tons of materials where the authors themselves did no seem to understand the underlying concepts and just spit out some gibberish
@limeroundup
@limeroundup 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible. Best explanation ever!
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@raoulml1
@raoulml1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content.
@nadinounou
@nadinounou 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video thank you ♥️ If i am taking part in a liquidity mining pool with A/B, A and B being highly correlated, the risk is highly minimised right? if asset A grows 1000%, and asset B almost the same, then no impermanent loss if i got it well
@rezaxxx
@rezaxxx 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you.
@Cheezenuts
@Cheezenuts 3 жыл бұрын
Does the dollar amount you put in the pool (excluding slippage & interest accrued) remain the same regardless of positive or negative volatility of the asset? Or can the dollar amount that you initially pooled increase as long as there’s a 50/50 balance between the two assets?
@internationalgolfconstruction
@internationalgolfconstruction 3 жыл бұрын
Best vid on impermanent loss.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@timschierenbeck2758
@timschierenbeck2758 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much again! You are like the teacher i wished for in shool :-)
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
thanks! :)
@ericniyongira4467
@ericniyongira4467 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is really awesome. I am new to Yield Farming - Providing Liquidity, and I hope to learn more from you! Anyone who can recommend me the best way to start?
@hugoamorim5301
@hugoamorim5301 3 жыл бұрын
Yes this is bad in current situation that we are huge bull market but in last 3 years was good. Nice video
@PrisonerZ3RO
@PrisonerZ3RO 2 жыл бұрын
Best explanation EVER !!!!
@DG-mo1zf
@DG-mo1zf 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, thank you!
@katyaolivan6085
@katyaolivan6085 3 жыл бұрын
Because of your vids, I understand everything better😃 thanks
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that! :)
@bonzo1928
@bonzo1928 3 жыл бұрын
Very clear, thanks!
@Jesussaft
@Jesussaft Жыл бұрын
Great video! I am currently investing in a token which I expect to blow up soon (x10 and above). I thought I am smart by providing liquidity because I would gain fees on all the buys coming in but now it looks like there will be serious impermanent loss. Time to get out of the liquidity pool :D
@giordanogiordani81
@giordanogiordani81 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Finematics Team. How are you doing? Guys please, allow automatic subtitles in your videos. Maybe it will help a lot of others people, subscribers of your channel and me as well. As a no-english speacker even though been fluent in english, subtitles always help...thanks and congrats for your excellent work here. Cheers
@Finematics
@Finematics 2 жыл бұрын
thanks, started adding it for the new videos
@-.TS.-
@-.TS.- 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely needed this!
@sepman1
@sepman1 3 жыл бұрын
You are amazing - 'Nuff said!
@justdoitFR
@justdoitFR 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this great content. I am still trying to find out what could be risks for providing liquidity for a pair like USDT vs USDC... Of course excluding any smart contract bug or any hacks because those risks are just inherent to everything in crypto.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
The main risk is that one of the stable coins can lose its peg to the US dollar. USDT, for example, is not completely transparent, so we don't exactly know if they have all the assets to cover their outstanding USDT balance.
@kenmeyer100
@kenmeyer100 2 жыл бұрын
@@Finematics yeah, it's like you want to cash out your chips and the casino operator say 'sorry, we have no more dollars for you'
@postmanwithsnow
@postmanwithsnow 2 жыл бұрын
There are none. Only risk is a bank run which won't occur until something really bad happens. But then all your other crypto will most likely be worth nothing anymore either 😉
@thefailedactor
@thefailedactor 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Video which helped a lot. So with Farming, and providing liquidity, volatility results in impermanent loss. De-risking this; stick to pools with single assets although the APY is lower. Can you have impairment loss in single pools? Or can I continue with lower APY; and if I exit, keep the original investment (Number of Tokens)
@martinpepper630
@martinpepper630 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great channel! - Thanks you
@Finematics
@Finematics 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!!
@danielzirkel9616
@danielzirkel9616 3 жыл бұрын
Really goog explanation 👍🏻 Now I have understood the impermanent loss.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad it helped! :)
@temitopeagoro4603
@temitopeagoro4603 2 жыл бұрын
Could you possibly delve into Decentralized autonomous organizations? I love your content and explanations. I am really learning a lot! Thank you!!
@Finematics
@Finematics 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, there is a plan to make a video about DAOs soon! Stay tuned :)
@Damsy388
@Damsy388 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Subbed!
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gordongekko9742
@gordongekko9742 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Thank you very much
@Finematics
@Finematics 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@trevorryder9732
@trevorryder9732 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on non-fungible tokens and their use so far and future use.
@jochembraad1760
@jochembraad1760 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained
@themfu
@themfu 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos on your channel.
@zegikniet9999
@zegikniet9999 3 жыл бұрын
the intro to this video fits me perfectly. I did indeed not do any research before hand, only after hand YOLO
@zegikniet9999
@zegikniet9999 3 жыл бұрын
btw i nominate these video's to be the most clear explenation i ever got anywhere. very well done
@Sonnyrei
@Sonnyrei 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks! How did you get 19.07 on 3:31 and 0.93 on 3:36?
@lakemckenzie
@lakemckenzie 3 жыл бұрын
yeah you just got a sub!
@poltondt5067
@poltondt5067 3 жыл бұрын
can you please explain the formulas derived from the constant market maker formula to be able to get the amount needed for arbitrage?
@steveshuffle
@steveshuffle 2 жыл бұрын
mate this is amazing. All of your content
@Finematics
@Finematics 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@steveshuffle
@steveshuffle 2 жыл бұрын
@@Finematics thank YOU
@Zharadeen
@Zharadeen 3 жыл бұрын
I love your page so much
@LiteLiger
@LiteLiger 3 жыл бұрын
Very solid and analytical video. So in technicalities it would be lot safer to invest in stablecoin pairings right? Due to the nature of prices fluctuating lot less.
@cryptomckey318
@cryptomckey318 3 жыл бұрын
Is the calculation the same for non stable coin pools like CAKE-BNB or TWT-BNB or it's a lot more riskier ? Thanks for your efforts. It helps a lot. Kudos!
@andina116
@andina116 2 жыл бұрын
I have gained a lot from defi mining, and I like this project.
@sergei.wallace
@sergei.wallace 2 жыл бұрын
Love these explainers!
@Finematics
@Finematics 2 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@greatnes
@greatnes 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! You're amazing. The effort you put into this video is helping thousands learn. I'm happy to be one of them.
@Finematics
@Finematics 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@rajvile
@rajvile 2 жыл бұрын
Hey ! Just subscribed, doing great in explaining DEFI. Can you do a video on pancakeswap and latest DEFI dex such as Sundae too
@arnaud4950
@arnaud4950 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Finematic , at 3:57 you write 524.83 ETH/DAI insteed of 524.83 DAI/ETH. Really nice video, thanks for all your work.
@coreed3323
@coreed3323 2 жыл бұрын
This was extremely well explained. The best presentation I have seen on impermanent loss. It finally makes sense. Thank you. 👍
@kimau8541
@kimau8541 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for great video. I wonder what happen when liquidity pool end? Will lost all liquidity or?
@otismurrayiii1672
@otismurrayiii1672 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great video.
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@gurpreetsaini7644
@gurpreetsaini7644 3 жыл бұрын
One can use Solver in excel to find out the revised amount of ETH and DAI shown at 3:30.
@NHill-dg8ch
@NHill-dg8ch 3 жыл бұрын
You just won a new subscriber
@Finematics
@Finematics 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@derrickkkkkkkkkkkk
@derrickkkkkkkkkkkk 2 жыл бұрын
great video! could you let me know the steps you used to calculate the new price of 524.83 ETH/DAI?
@javierortizmir7873
@javierortizmir7873 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!!!
@chr0nos871
@chr0nos871 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
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