What Is It Like To Be a Foreigner in Your Home Country

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Max Chernov

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Meet Elena! Born and raised in Singapore, she is still technically considered a foreigner. She shared with me how Singapore has changed throughout her life, the top hidden and unique spots to visit here, and how she feels about being a native-born resident yet holding an Employment Pass. Enjoy!
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 INTRO
00:30 Birth Story
02:00 The reactions of the Singaporeans
02:41 About Citizenship
03:40 How do people invest in Singapore?
05:31 Life in Singapore in the 2000s
07:17 Was rules in Singapore stricter?
08:28 Does Lena feel like alocal?
09:00 Top places to visit in Singapore
10:38 Crazy stories in Singapore
11:40 What Lena doesn't like about Singapore:)
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@AlexiaJqt
@AlexiaJqt Жыл бұрын
I think we should avoid making judgments about an individual's cultural identity based solely on a single video. While accents can indeed reflect one's cultural background, there is a phenomenon called code-switching, which is familiar to multicultural or bicultural individuals. For example, multicultural or bicultural people may adapt their language or accent depending on the audience they are communicating with. They might use one language or accent when speaking to certain individuals and a different language or accent in other situations. This flexibility can extend to using one language or accent at home and another at school. I grew up in the south of France, where the accent(s) are distinctive, yet I don't speak with a southern French accent at home or when interacting with non-southern French people. In my case, we used a standard French accent at home when I was a child. Does that make me any less of a local? Accent variations are common, and individuals may have different accents when conversing with different people, even within their own community. Here Lena speaks with Max, who is not Singaporean. It's entirely possible that she adopts a different accent when conversing with other Singaporeans. The way someone speaks in one particular context does not define their entire cultural identity!
@MaxChernov
@MaxChernov Жыл бұрын
100%! Thanks for the comment!
@the.mystictraveller
@the.mystictraveller Жыл бұрын
Actually she sounds American/Australian... Hmmm
@chua2237
@chua2237 Жыл бұрын
Only bumiputra can call native, they are son of the soil, France was founded on Africa, Africa pay colonial tax to France.
@citrasavitri3332
@citrasavitri3332 Жыл бұрын
You're totally right and I haven't really thought about this. My children are Italian citizens, lived in Singapore until kindergarten, now they're teenagers and we are living in Canada. They kind of have 2 accents when they speak English... Canadian accent that they use with their friends, and a kind of neutral accent that they use with relatives and when we're not in Canada.
@adnyc82
@adnyc82 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think her cultural identity is what people are fixated on, but rather the fact that she refers to her accent as American despite it having a very noticeable Australian component. I assumed she was Australian until she said she’s Russian, and then when she said her accent was “American,” I thought “Huh?” I’m familiar with code switching, but people don’t just spontaneously adopt an Australian accent unless they lived there or learned English from Australian people, television, etc.
@Aceospady
@Aceospady Жыл бұрын
I lived and work in Singapore for almost 15 years until deciding to move somewhere else. I can say that the safety and security in Sg is top notch. You walk alone at 3AM and you know that you’ll reach home unscratched. They say that it is the most expensive country to live at, but that depends on how you look at it. Probably the housing and rental prices are expensive. But with food, You can have a decent delicious food at an affordable price in hawker centers. You spend less than SGD10 already includes my fave teh-C 😂 Owning a car can just be a luxury to many people because the public transport is so efficient i could not compare it with anywhere else.
@Richgirl4
@Richgirl4 Жыл бұрын
in SG you cant find normal edible food that is not fried and that is affordable, everything that is tasty, healthy, costs a lot of money in cafe and restaurants
@hermangouw
@hermangouw 2 ай бұрын
Why are you moving somewhere else then?
@Stonely1974
@Stonely1974 Жыл бұрын
I am in my 50s now but back then when i was a teen, i hang out with a bunch of expat kids from United World College. I remember 1 German, speaks perfect hokkien, 1 Japanese guy, speaks perfect Mandrian. It was all fun and crazy until someone gets into trouble with the law and most time, we were let off magically. There were no internet, when we want free booze, we will sign them out at American Club or Tanglin Club, or any other country club because most of their parent belong to some club in town! our fav night spot was Zouk, we dance on tables at HardRock Cafe, we did crazy things under the stars with stuff u cannot imagine. At the back of Zouk, just where the road ends and sloped into the river, behind a huge shipping container, we lie down there, smoking stuff... Alot of fist fights after a nights drinking, alot of parties cut short due to our inability to avoid troubles. We sneak into Hotel ballroom to spend the nite, most time we crash out in cheap hotel after parties and get stone. Those were the days! Its not as strict as now, you can do crazy stuff and get away with it because there were no CCTV every where back then. Now... you better be a good citizen
@MaxChernov
@MaxChernov Жыл бұрын
Legend!
@bell-xk5dd
@bell-xk5dd Жыл бұрын
Interesting...you’re a true Singaporean 😂👍
@RonLarhz
@RonLarhz Жыл бұрын
@@bell-xk5dd Nah. It's 3rd world sgreans....or chao ah bengs.....
@SuccessforLifester
@SuccessforLifester Жыл бұрын
The one that got away from the Michael Fay and gang ?
@rjjrjehehew
@rjjrjehehew Жыл бұрын
You could get away with this because LKY did not even get his bearings yet. Are you still so proud of yourself after so many years.
@MajorBlitz
@MajorBlitz Жыл бұрын
You know she's basically singaporean when she was born here and still complains about the heat like the rest of us haha
@MaxChernov
@MaxChernov Жыл бұрын
Lol
@rabbitazteca23
@rabbitazteca23 Жыл бұрын
she is not. Many westerners are born in Asia and don't really immerse themselves in the local. They go to international schools. There is NOTHING local or Singaporean about these people. They are westerners
@anchored555
@anchored555 Жыл бұрын
Everyone complains about the heat including tourists. Sorry, but just being born here but of foreign citizen parentage, and complaining about the heat, and loving chicken rice, are not enough to qualify as Singaporean. Don’t mean to be mean, but it is what it is.
@s_shaleh
@s_shaleh Жыл бұрын
​@@anchored555But aside from being born and raised here, she's also been working here her entire adult life and thus has been contributing to Singapore's economy. She also shares many memories of places of interest that no longer exist today with us locals and I find that very touching. Honestly, I'd take her over some of the foreigners who have already gotten their citizenship but refuse to assimilate into the local community. You see them all the time during lunch time in the office bringing their own lunch boxes with their home-made meals. Don't get me wrong, I'm all about saving money, but if all you ever eat is your own home country's food, then that's pretty messed up to me.
@anchored555
@anchored555 Жыл бұрын
@@s_shaleh I’m not sure how integrated she is into local society. She may have been accidentally born here (since SG was the closest port when she was due), but she sounds 100% westerner, went to international schools and grew up in an expat community. Does she have any local friends, or does she hang out only with fellow expats? During the British colonial days, there was a segment of white people who lived lives insulated from the rest of local society, and I’m not sure we want to bring that back. At most as PRs, but probably not as citizens, particularly since the demand is so great right now, and we need to consider social cohesion and commitment when we add on new PRs/citizens. Will they stay to defend SG with us in the event of an enemy attack, or will they be on the first plane out?
@user-oh6wb5rj2q
@user-oh6wb5rj2q Жыл бұрын
In Singapore there’s this term called “Ang Moh Lang” that’s why
@cpcxgsr
@cpcxgsr Жыл бұрын
I’m more fixated with her accent. Even though she was born in SG, her accent sounds more Australian… listening to her speak, I would never think she’s Singaporean. She doesn’t have that Malaysian/Singaporean twang
@adnyc82
@adnyc82 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. She said it’s American, but it sounds more Australian to me
@cpcxgsr
@cpcxgsr Жыл бұрын
@@adnyc82 the other commenter mentioned, code switching. Where one can adapt different accents during certain situations. Which I totally understand. My family is from Hong Kong. But my family can speak their native dialect (taishanese) whenever they are speaking with their older relatives (80yo+). But when they are casually speaking with everyone else, they speak with their regular Hong Kong Cantonese accent. But with this chick, her English sounds more “American” but with an occasional “Australian” twang. She must have been international schooled. That would be my guess
@adnyc82
@adnyc82 Жыл бұрын
@@cpcxgsr That would make sense. It’s just interesting that she doesn’t seem to notice.
@eslgurucalif
@eslgurucalif Жыл бұрын
The vocal fry affectation she uses and her "uptalking" are definitely influenced by young American women.
@JustinSCampbell
@JustinSCampbell Жыл бұрын
Agree. I'm Australian, and she sounded Australian to me.
@leenahkaing1507
@leenahkaing1507 Жыл бұрын
What a great story from my amazing best friend. GO ELENA ❤
@LangLang5689
@LangLang5689 Жыл бұрын
She's definitely a citizen, in the fullest meaning of it. Dedicated life to that place and stikl on EP, haha, this is pure discrimination - the one could not imagine anything like this for some Chinese folk 😅
@bvtfishing
@bvtfishing Жыл бұрын
Great vid, glad to have u as a fellow resident!
@edgyguy8240
@edgyguy8240 Жыл бұрын
No one born and raised here speaks like that. I have neighbours who were from China. Their kids who grew up here, speak like locals. This lady doesn't. If she grew up here, she didn't mix around with locals.
@kaiwenloh783
@kaiwenloh783 2 ай бұрын
That's true. They speak Chinese accented Mandarin with their parents but speak local Mandarin and Singlish with their friends in school.
@SuccessforLifester
@SuccessforLifester Жыл бұрын
Last time in my report book, there is this Place of Birth. I wrote K K hospital. The teacher cancelled it and wrote Singapore.
@ummiramli6554
@ummiramli6554 Жыл бұрын
Formerly known as Kandang Kerbau Hospital (Buffalo pen hospital). Renamed KK Women's and Children's hospital. My two sisters and daughter were born in the old building now LTA office building. My son and granddaughter were born in the current building. Should be country of birth : Singapore.
@flyer320neo
@flyer320neo 10 ай бұрын
Just wanna encourage you to keep trying and be hoping for you to get your PR one day 🙏 Be supporting you in spirit !
@azureliteyahoo
@azureliteyahoo Жыл бұрын
Here's my take. an expat colleague put their kids in local primary 1. 6-12 months later they got their PR. They were only here 2 years. Maybe ICA see that as an integration effort. If I'm not planning to stay long term, my kids will go to international schools. easier to move on to the next Int'l school in another country.
@8181nuky
@8181nuky Жыл бұрын
Hi Elena. I am a Singaporean and I hope you get your citizenship soon! ICA, not sure what your SOP / protocol is, but if there is no good reason not to give her citizenship, then grant her citizenship!
@Janovial
@Janovial Жыл бұрын
She could be a spy
@monalisaaltenburg4879
@monalisaaltenburg4879 2 ай бұрын
Spy on what?? She has never lived in Russia before, hello? ​@@Janovial
@SuccessforLifester
@SuccessforLifester Жыл бұрын
Going out to get a special dinner back then was much simpler, like going to Ponderosa, Slizzer, pizza buffet at Pizza Hut, Denny's free birthday meal. Then later we have Cafe Cartel. For Chinese we have eg the Swatow Teochew restaurant..
@michellebo8173
@michellebo8173 Жыл бұрын
Yesss...Denny's diner....our favourite hangout after clubbing....the hot plate pork chop and spaghetti was so good and free flow of coffee....missed it so much
@michaellfh
@michaellfh Жыл бұрын
I remember Milano pizza. I think they were at Orchard Plaza.
@SuccessforLifester
@SuccessforLifester Жыл бұрын
@@michaellfh I also tried I think Hot Rock, where we cooked our own meat on a piece of hot rock
@jiranma
@jiranma Жыл бұрын
Actually, Singapore had a pretty wide variety of F&B eateries. Japanese food has always been popular here and we did have quite a few others besides Sushi Tei, even in the 70s-80s. They just closed down due to retail rental pressure. Korean restaurants were already available in the 80s too; it just wasn't as popular back then. Even French, Mexican, etc., they were really available too in the 70s, 80s. Italian cuisine is/was very popular too. Hotels' F&B eateries were really big back then as well and they really were of very high quality, much better than what we see now. Overall, Singapore do have a lot more eateries, but food quality has slipped by a lot and prices just through the roof.
@chompythechomperchomp
@chompythechomperchomp Жыл бұрын
my wife was on ep too. she have been here since like 13 and after our wedding her PR got approved.
@normanis
@normanis Жыл бұрын
Lena has been in Singapore for over 24 years? My wife from NL has been in Singapore for 10+ years, half the time Lena did, has never studied here, but sounds WAY more local than Lena. She may have spent her entire life in Singapore, but with the expat community. So to me, that isn't very 'local'. Then again, we do not know her well enough, so who knows. 🤷
@johnwig285
@johnwig285 Жыл бұрын
Well you first pick up ur accent from your parents before your friends or locals. Her parents arent Singaporeans. Singaporeans can easily fake some British accent after going on a holiday, so what? Accents dont mean anything.
@monalisaaltenburg4879
@monalisaaltenburg4879 2 ай бұрын
U are right..She sounds more aussie to me than Singaporean..its possible that she grew up here mixing more with aussie kids..
@UwaisGhulam
@UwaisGhulam 2 ай бұрын
Living her life may bring an identity issue. She just doesnt feel like she belongs anywhere!
@forbeginnersandbeyond6089
@forbeginnersandbeyond6089 Жыл бұрын
Her English accent is a mix of Australian, British and American. Can’t hear any Singaporean though, nor Russian.
@monalisaaltenburg4879
@monalisaaltenburg4879 2 ай бұрын
Yes u are right..She sounds more aussie to me than Singaporean..I think maybe she grew up mixing more with aussie kids?..
@sugarly69
@sugarly69 11 ай бұрын
Hey max shout-out to you. Really like what you're doing here with channel. Bringing people together :) really appreciate it.
@SCPtp
@SCPtp Жыл бұрын
Maybe she was born and raised here, but sounds like she only mixed with the expat community and never really integrated. When you mix with the locals, you get a lot of their accent too.
@johnwig285
@johnwig285 Жыл бұрын
False, ur accent is first determined by ur household, social circle second. Think of the differences between a Chinese, malay n Indian accent. All stem from household. U think what she's like Singaporeans who fake British accent after 1 week holiday in London? It is easy for her to pretend n fake Singlish etc but for what?
@Hllee6428
@Hllee6428 2 ай бұрын
She sounds Irish/Scottish/American with a slight hint of Russian (her ethnicity). Likely edcuated at an International school
@bandofbros8112
@bandofbros8112 2 ай бұрын
I have only been there once, but it was awesome. Used to go out in Clarke Quay in 2015. Also had the SG50 at that time, was a cool experience.
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry Жыл бұрын
The amount of people who still think because you are born somewhere you can get citizenship in that place. This only works in the USA and a couple of other places. Everywhere else its all to do with the citizenship of your parents. My born and raised in Singapore kids are also still foreigners. At one stage my kids primary school made the "Foreign" kids vote for the best Singaporean student - some of who had not been born in Singapore. Which was pretty hard to take.
@journette
@journette Жыл бұрын
Ouch. 😢
@simonj_23
@simonj_23 4 ай бұрын
Yep 100% My kids were born and raised in UAE (Dubai) but can never be citizens and had to take the citizenship from me as there father, of a country they have never lived in (NZ)
@85ewan
@85ewan Жыл бұрын
I was reading the subtitles and when the part when she says "Shenton Way" even with the map the spelling is wrong. Also, did she say she's from here in Bukit Batok?
@suivzmoi
@suivzmoi Жыл бұрын
interesting accent. her R's are rhotic which is american, but the TT's are distinct and more English. then the vowels are sometimes Australian.
@veins101
@veins101 Жыл бұрын
For someone who lived in Singapore for sooo long and can pronounce Bukit Batok etc. that’s sus.
@moonbaywalk
@moonbaywalk Жыл бұрын
That LC500 at 2:13 ❤
@sagepirotess6312
@sagepirotess6312 Жыл бұрын
Omg the heat... I can relate... born in California ok weather but love cold like s korea.... anyway moved to Vietnam married, opened business, built, own a home.... but the heat..... is the one thing that I despise throughout most the country
@jt5566
@jt5566 Жыл бұрын
You have a lot of videos on foreigners that are white. But there are definitely a lot of Asians that come from western countries who blend right in to local Singapore culture and feel totally local and sound local. Like myself including.. :D
@etienne8382
@etienne8382 Жыл бұрын
So big question - where do you find the best chicken rice! I used to live in Toa Payoh more than a decade ago, really miss Singapore. Always loved to go to the wet market for breakfast.
@Bullitc
@Bullitc Жыл бұрын
I can hear AUS, Brit and Scottish accents peeking here and there haha
@kayflip2233
@kayflip2233 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't remotely sound British or Scottish. 100% Australian. Listen to how she pronounces "home" or "no".
@alf-jonnystreberge2810
@alf-jonnystreberge2810 Жыл бұрын
hmm. I got Permanent Resident card after I studied there and a Passport after I graduated. im originaly from Norway so I had duel citisenship. I lived there for 9 years but now im back in Norway and after my Singapore passport went out of date I just decided to not get a new one since I live here now. Singapore has changed a lot over the years and it, has become to expensive for me now. But its still my must go place to visit every time I go to Asia.
@joshhow8090
@joshhow8090 Жыл бұрын
Gum ban was due to littering and causing train doors to become stuck, resulting in train service disruptions. Although the distruptions are till...oh well ..
@michaellfh
@michaellfh Жыл бұрын
I don't think there was a time when citizenship was granted on the basis of being born in Singapore. If I'm not wrong, at least one parent has to be Singaporean to be a citizen at birth. Place of birth doesn't matter.
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry Жыл бұрын
Not just Singapore but the vast majority of countries around the world.
@shchyesh
@shchyesh Жыл бұрын
i have encountered once where my ex colleague who was born in Singapore and have never stayed in Singapore prior to her relocating with her angmo husband. she got her citizenship within months and her objective of getting one is to buy NEW HDB ❤
@rjjrjehehew
@rjjrjehehew Жыл бұрын
​@@shchyesh messed up.
@michaellfh
@michaellfh Жыл бұрын
@@shchyesh So the question now would be... Was at least one of her parents a Singapore citizen at the time of her birth? If so, she is a citizen by birth. Where she lived doesn't change that.
@shchyesh
@shchyesh Жыл бұрын
@michaellfh i dont think so... my understanding her parents are Malaysian
@MaxChernov
@MaxChernov Жыл бұрын
Is Lena local or foreigner in Singapore?
@clementng7718
@clementng7718 Жыл бұрын
Local 👍🥰
@chumi05
@chumi05 Жыл бұрын
Very local😅
@zenweaver
@zenweaver Жыл бұрын
Local of course.
@imycunt372
@imycunt372 Жыл бұрын
Dead local.
@xllvr
@xllvr Жыл бұрын
Local 100%
@Ra3_ar1adnE
@Ra3_ar1adnE Жыл бұрын
Its actually rather neat to see other natives born and raised in Singapore despite not being asian. I'm american by blood but was born and raised by my grandparents and basically lived the singaporean lifestyle lmao, its still funny that I spoke better mandarin than my chinese friends though I don't chinese or looking the way I am and speaking singlish sometimes.
@kamariahabdrahim6963
@kamariahabdrahim6963 Жыл бұрын
Born in SG does not entitle to anyone ( foreigner ) to be a citizen automatically but only if one of their parent is singaporean.
@HyperHorse
@HyperHorse Жыл бұрын
It's about time the government to be more inclusive and less racist!!!!
@applehead7942
@applehead7942 Жыл бұрын
@@HyperHorse Pretty sure the government have always been inclusive but they prioritise the locals more than the PRs. Thats why PRs dont have many benefits as compared to Singaporeans (more subsidy, more financial assistance). Besides, PRs generally earn a lot more than the local. So no surprise there.
@SuperValue350
@SuperValue350 Жыл бұрын
She doesn't have a Singaporean accent at all, despite her claims of being born and raised in Singapore. Yeah, I don't doubt that she's born here, but the accent is a strong indication that she's not telling her full story, especially in regards to how she integrates or mingles with the locals and the local culture.
@garettjames6349
@garettjames6349 Жыл бұрын
Lol. Been here 10 years, applied twice for PR. I guess I'll stop trying now. If you're born and raised here and can't get PR, I guess just give up.
@CT-ku1ee
@CT-ku1ee Жыл бұрын
Max, her husband is Singaporean? if Singaporean will be easier maybe try to get PR 1st?
@alvinkoh5556
@alvinkoh5556 Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t detect a single bit of singaporean accent in her speech. Pretty surprising that she grown up here but speaks like an American. That could only mean that she don’t really mix with the locals.
@MaxChernov
@MaxChernov Жыл бұрын
She does. But she studied in Canadian international school.
@kayflip2233
@kayflip2233 Жыл бұрын
Huh? She has zero American accent. It's Australian.
@alvinkoh5556
@alvinkoh5556 Жыл бұрын
@@kayflip2233 no different. They are all foreign accents. You don't call that localized. She is just a westerner born in Singapore, that's all.
@rabbitazteca23
@rabbitazteca23 Жыл бұрын
@@alvinkoh5556 agreed. Can't even speak Singaporean Mandarin, Tamil, or Malay.... such a shame
@teojoel9612
@teojoel9612 Жыл бұрын
​@Max Chernov There are a group of people who are expat children that grew up in singapore attending international school and not mixing with many locals as locals are not allowed to attend international school when they are younger. Only under special circumstances are they allowed. This group of people have been here their whole lives but are not fully integrated into society but are still part of unique singapore.
@envitech02
@envitech02 Жыл бұрын
The late Datuk Bro Vincent Corkery was an Irishman who came to Malaya just after the war to teach in Catholic mission schools. He passed away in 2016 but has always called Malaya and Malaysia his home for the last 59 years of his life. Speaks great Malay French Latin apart from his native English. In fact I learnt Japanese from him. Had he been alive today he'd be a great guy to talk to. My respects to great people like Bro Vincent who guided thousands of his students, me among them.
@chua2237
@chua2237 Жыл бұрын
Religion is foreplay to colonization,, language can be a tool to colonize ppl, Kishore believed he is ethnically interior.
@sierrafife
@sierrafife Жыл бұрын
I'd like to know who does your subtitles? Where is Chun Tin Way???? The proper spelling is clear in the video itself. And Clarky?? As opposed to Clark Quay?
@humanshieldz
@humanshieldz Жыл бұрын
Long time ago the Vivocity area used to be call World Trade Center 😂 I didn't go there for a long time and they renovated and renamed it so during Sept 11, 2001 when it happened it i thought it was Singapore cos i was in Australia then 😛
@MaxChernov
@MaxChernov Жыл бұрын
wow! Interesting
@llysender
@llysender Жыл бұрын
world trade center was renamed Habourfront center, vivo is the newer one
@SuccessforLifester
@SuccessforLifester Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I almost forgot the existence of world trade centre. Used to go there for exhibitions, especially of pottery and ceramics and bonsai
@sgfakesoprano7949
@sgfakesoprano7949 Жыл бұрын
World Trade Centre is now Harbour Front Shopping Mall. Before Vivo City was build, I recall there were shophouses, pubs and clubs dated back in the 90s. I was a kid back then. Long before there was a monorail to Sentosa from Vivo City, there was a bus service from Seah Im bus interchange. I recalled buying cheap fruit juice for SGD$0.90 at Seah Im hawker centre next to the bus interchange back in early year 2000.
@enigmaticrandom386
@enigmaticrandom386 Жыл бұрын
Omg! World Trade Center! Memory unlocked.
@ordoabchao4202
@ordoabchao4202 Жыл бұрын
I'm an "Expat" Singapore for 2.5y now. I feel it's a strange place in the sense that Expat chidren and mixed children can grow up very different and separated from "true locals". Part of it is even wanted by the government e.g. by prohibiting (or severly restricting) foreign (i.e. non-PR ir citizen) children to go to local schools but go to international schools instead. Wich makes makes for a very different experience from growing up in a heartland HDB and going to a local school. Would be interest to hear what young folks in Sg think about that.
@anchored555
@anchored555 Жыл бұрын
There are good reasons for the government restricting the number of foreign children attending local schools eg these tend to be highly state subsidised, so of course, especially when demand exceeds supply, they prioritise local children. If local children are displaced by foreign children, this also becomes a sensitive political issue for the government at the ballot box. Local schools teach our national curriculum which, on top of emphasising academic excellence, also teach children about national identity and good citizenship, which may not be suitable for foreigners. So the government does make efforts to ensure that public schools popular with expatriates do not exceed a certain quota in order to ensure the schools do not lose their core Singaporean identity. The demand for education in our public schools is high because SG is known to have one of the best education systems in the world. If we did not limit the numbers of foreign students in our schools, we might well get inundated.
@ordoabchao4202
@ordoabchao4202 Жыл бұрын
@hhmchan I understand and don't disagree with the reasons you list. But of course this leads to a very different experience for Expat and local children, and the fact that Expat children will not adopt a Sigapore identity, which again might be desired by government. Just an observation. BTW, it's not the same in other countries. I am from Europe and foreigners there (migrant workers, refugees etc.) have full access to the public school system even if they don't pay any tax. And the locals are forced to pay up...
@anchored555
@anchored555 Жыл бұрын
@@ordoabchao4202 It’s a different philosophy. You mention Europe, which interestingly, is now showing signs of serious social strain due to the huge numbers of foreign migrants taken in. SG does not have the luxury of indulging in such social experiments. From our past history, we are well aware of how delicate and fragile social and racial harmony can be, and so we try to keep the status quo in equilibrium. And because we are so small and crowded, we cannot and do not take in refugees. If we did, we might well sink from the numbers trying to come here. In an ideal world with unlimited resources, we can admit anyone who wants to come. But the reality is that we have limited space and resources, and so must prioritise who gets them. Obviously, citizens, and then PRs, come first. Even if a foreigner cannot get his child into a local school, if he really wants more local interaction for his child, he can still choose to live in the HDB heartland, and perhaps send his child to extracurricular activities that allow him to interact with local children?
@ordoabchao4202
@ordoabchao4202 Жыл бұрын
@hhmchan I agree with you again. The immigration policies in Europe are ludicrous and are causing huge issues, I'm happy Sg stays clear of such nonesense. That's one of the reasons i like it here so much :)
@anchored555
@anchored555 Жыл бұрын
@@ordoabchao4202 I’m glad you do. Enjoy your stay here.
@envitech02
@envitech02 Жыл бұрын
Max, you can also interview a Mat Salleh here in KL. He's been here since the 80s. Ini orang Jerman boleh pandu kapal terbang dan juga cakap Melayu. You can catch him most days at Subang Airport. Interesting and friendly gentleman.
@aloisiussi4635
@aloisiussi4635 5 ай бұрын
She live in Singapore whole life but in a expat bubble as seen in International school photos, hardly any photos hanging out with locals. Work in Expat circle and i dare say probably did not attend main Universities - NUS or NTU or even SMU. Usually if you graduate from there, and work, you get PR, no problem. She probably has other plans not to take up Citizenship
@blinkjetimmersion
@blinkjetimmersion Жыл бұрын
Many people from a Caribbean background share her issues in the UK.
@hlim431
@hlim431 Жыл бұрын
Wow... What a story Lena!!
@stephenshw2262
@stephenshw2262 Жыл бұрын
You really should interview the one black family in SG. The son was even a NDU trooper.
@MaxChernov
@MaxChernov Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link?
@envitech02
@envitech02 Жыл бұрын
If I recall, the kid was born here to parents from Tanzania. If not mistaken he joined the Sg Navy. Can't remember his name.
@envitech02
@envitech02 Жыл бұрын
m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWiWqHWVg9V2nrs
@jackmeeellleee4896
@jackmeeellleee4896 Жыл бұрын
I was very curious to hear about her language skills. Did growing up in Singapore facilitate the learning and use of any other languages?
@657Crew
@657Crew Жыл бұрын
English is our first language but if you want to learn your native eg Russian or French then you'd probably have to enrol in an international school
@jackmeeellleee4896
@jackmeeellleee4896 Жыл бұрын
@@657Crew Thanks for your response. Do Singaporeans use other languages often in daily life? Or is English a very large percentage of what people speak? My curiosity stems from moving from a country (USA) that mostly uses one language, to Denmark, after I was forty. I have after many years become mostly fluent in Danish. I have been to several other European countries as well and have noticed a much greater diversity of languages spoken here in Europe within the individual nations than in my native United States. The majority of Danes for example, are to a large extent fluent, or nearly fluent, in English and to a lesser extent other languages like German and Italian. But the public schools here start English very early and also other languages are taught in school for many years. In a small country there is also more of an incentive to know more than just the native tongue. So I thought that perhaps Singapore as a small island nation, with it's history, and diverse population must be multilingual, and that the woman featured in this video might have, as a matter of course, learned one or more other languages while growing up.
@BladeWinters
@BladeWinters Жыл бұрын
This is timely, I just watched a video about Singaporeans of Tanzanian Heritage.
@MaxChernov
@MaxChernov Жыл бұрын
Wow. Share a link?
@BladeWinters
@BladeWinters Жыл бұрын
@@MaxChernov kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWiWqHWVg9V2nrs
@BladeWinters
@BladeWinters Жыл бұрын
@@MaxChernov Pretty sure the algorithm fed me this video because I've been watching your videos so often.
@leongsam1075
@leongsam1075 Жыл бұрын
Interesting and such a sweet and likeable lady, hope she gets the PR soon 😊
@limbehh8494
@limbehh8494 Жыл бұрын
Nah... citizen.
@michaellfh
@michaellfh Жыл бұрын
​@@limbehh8494 citizenship without being PR first? Unlikely.
@limbehh8494
@limbehh8494 Жыл бұрын
@@michaellfh unless multi billionaire. Lol
@rjjrjehehew
@rjjrjehehew Жыл бұрын
How about she gets nothing?
@NikhileshPaul
@NikhileshPaul Жыл бұрын
@@limbehh8494 right answer
@Sukacukur
@Sukacukur 2 ай бұрын
Usually in Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia.If your parents are not Singapore citizens,you are not consider as Singaporean even if you are born in Singapore.
@BeshenayaVishnya
@BeshenayaVishnya 2 ай бұрын
As a Russian native speaker, I can still hear her Russian. It’s barely there, but just the way she articulates is soooo Russian ☺️
@PranicEnergy
@PranicEnergy 2 ай бұрын
She may be born here. But that is all. she obviously lived in a glass bubble in the expat community. PR and especially citizenship should not be granted unless she can make a difference and the qualifying criteria should be the same as for all other newly qualifying foreigners.
@showbread9366
@showbread9366 2 ай бұрын
What a doll 😍
@smoofsg
@smoofsg Жыл бұрын
Ok she is most likely not a citizen yet as her singlish is non existent 🤣 Just joking, it is great to see how Lena grows in Singapore!
@limbehh8494
@limbehh8494 Жыл бұрын
She should be a Singaporean... she born n raised here. What is happening? Greeting from Singaporean
@gli7279
@gli7279 Жыл бұрын
understand Spore Government certain ways of doing things like foreigners are not guarantee citizenship being born in Spore. but for goodness sake, sometimes we need to be more humane. she has live all her life here. grant her citizenship. sometimes we ought to be flexible, kind and humane, and not simply textbook.
@zikibahrin8332
@zikibahrin8332 Жыл бұрын
Singapore National language is still malay. National Anthem also
@jensonsoon4867
@jensonsoon4867 Жыл бұрын
Where is her singlish... if she is living in singapore since she was born??
@brockman562
@brockman562 Жыл бұрын
forgot 1 main question... does she speak mandarin/chinese?
@conned
@conned Жыл бұрын
Hmmm....born n raised here, accepted by Singaporeans as one but keep saying ",,,, they...they..."..like she doesn't belong...
@voolforyou
@voolforyou Жыл бұрын
Her accent is like an amalgamation of australian, american, scottish and russian
@tuppenceworth5485
@tuppenceworth5485 Жыл бұрын
She looks quite tanned. Didn't say whether her husband was a native Singaporean or a "foreigner".
@Jon-bf2rs
@Jon-bf2rs Жыл бұрын
Is good place to stay if you like city fast pace life but terrible if you prefer serene and slow pace style. Plus you need to be rich.
@PaulMaglaya
@PaulMaglaya Жыл бұрын
¡Singapore 🇸🇬 is basically like Republic City (the capital of the United Republic of Nations) from "The Legend of Korra" but in real life! 👍👌🙂
@lpericteo
@lpericteo Жыл бұрын
Seems like the ICA is more reluctant to grant citizenship to Angmo ? 😂😅😊
@CC-dx6bc
@CC-dx6bc Жыл бұрын
They give to women more i heard
@zhen86
@zhen86 Жыл бұрын
depends on which Angmo also. Remember, the ratio quota.
@anchored555
@anchored555 Жыл бұрын
I think they look at a range of factors eg what and how much you can contribute to SG, how integrated you are into local society, family ties to SG,etc.
@samyang5873
@samyang5873 Жыл бұрын
Ya , National Security issue 😂😂😂
@kelvinlow4906
@kelvinlow4906 Жыл бұрын
Must be a Russian spy thingy
@anfield0109
@anfield0109 Жыл бұрын
Should have asked her to speak some “Singlish” towards the end of video for a complete series.
@user-ed7pu5uj3q
@user-ed7pu5uj3q 11 ай бұрын
Born and raised in Singapore, you're actually Singaporean. I'd leave that "foreigner" word out completely, as there's a misconception in many countries that White or Western means "foreigner", which is wrong.
@johnwig285
@johnwig285 Жыл бұрын
She is Singaporean regardless of her accent or attending international school here. Some Singaporeans attend special schools like SAP or Madrasahs. That still makes u a Singaporean doesn't it even though u mix with only 1 group of ppl in that school.
@peteryang8991
@peteryang8991 Жыл бұрын
I am Asian and I have to say, unfortunetly most Asian country's immigration law is a total mess. Western nation tends to jump from one extreme to another. Prior to the 1950s they had very racist people in charge and they go out of their way to make sure none whites are not welcome. After the 1950s you got people that on top of not racist very much welcome migrants and encourage foreign migrants. So, the migration law is very well thought out. Some might get a bit too eager for migrants. For example, Australia got very bad economy right now. People are loosing their job, and the labor party in charge still want to open to 1 million foreign migrant visa. The opposition party is angry saying with this poor economy, you just going to make sure more people be living on the streets. Asian countries generally got not a racism problem and the leadership isn't racist. But, they don't go out of their way to encourage migrants. The general attitude is "come, don't come. We don't care." And in some cases such as over populated they might discourage migrants (for example, Taiwan in the 70s and 80s.) As a result, most Asian country's citizenship law is very poorly thought out and the immigration department is usually under funded. For some that are not more classical ethnic group it can be a big mess.
@chua2237
@chua2237 Жыл бұрын
This land belong to bumiputera, they are son of the soil, it's time to build bumiputra statue to show our gratefulness.
@DavidHoughton17
@DavidHoughton17 Жыл бұрын
super sian this whole EP visa thingy .. i knew of a English dude who was born and grew up in Spore right through his late 30s and yes he has tried to apply for PR but never got it. I just don't it.
@vijaykpillai100
@vijaykpillai100 3 ай бұрын
Singapore is the best place on Earth.
@pavementpounder7502
@pavementpounder7502 2 ай бұрын
How come even the ones born and raised in Singapore usually don't sound Singaporean?
@Noname-iz9uo
@Noname-iz9uo Жыл бұрын
She’s more of a daughter of the sea rather than Singapore
@MrChlim75
@MrChlim75 Жыл бұрын
Very curious if she could communicate in Singlish 😂
@thinkpadx60
@thinkpadx60 Жыл бұрын
born, raised, educated, lived for 25 years and PR rejected? that is so not fair, give her the PR
@energy12211
@energy12211 11 ай бұрын
Nah..doesn't make sense. She needs to just change her ethnicity to Malaysian chinese 😅
@amyg1073
@amyg1073 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@bruceandteo
@bruceandteo Жыл бұрын
It's hard to call a place your home with so much uncertainty living on an EP. We are on an EP and have applied for PR, as soon as the "rejection" letter comes through, it will be 👋👋. Bruce and Teo are in a local school and love it here, but with no PR, it's not financially viable to buy a property, ultimately leading to not being able to settle down. After 8 years on and off, this may be our last time here.
@PaulineMitchell
@PaulineMitchell 10 ай бұрын
I trust that you don't get a rejection letter, if you expect something you will receive it. Be very mindful of how you're using
@Kimmi7581
@Kimmi7581 Жыл бұрын
Sg really?! She’s literally a Citizen by definition! Damn can’t get enough of these interviews! Abruptly finished and leave us hanging lol
@MaxChernov
@MaxChernov Жыл бұрын
😁😊
@kayflip2233
@kayflip2233 Жыл бұрын
By definition of what? Singapore doesn't have birth right citizenship. One of the parents have to be Singaporean first. Not every country has the same laws.
@rjjrjehehew
@rjjrjehehew Жыл бұрын
Lots of westerners will never get pr or citizenship. You should have seen the pattern by now.
@gavinyuen040680
@gavinyuen040680 Жыл бұрын
u didnt ask if she feels like she accepted as local
@freddytameo
@freddytameo Жыл бұрын
Wholeheartedly welcome Lena to be part of Singapore’s evolution, full stop.
@vidx9
@vidx9 Жыл бұрын
To work in your birthplace ... that's beyond fate and destiny
@Akira-888
@Akira-888 2 ай бұрын
Just trace the origin of birth of specie then simply label as a variant. Simple. Race and nationality is separate. Even if she was not registered as Singaporean, she's still born there. Only difference now she has the added benefit to choose nationality. Then she will be considered Singaporean of Caucasian descent. But if say for Eg,, Mike Kasem became Singaporean, he will be a naturalized American Singaporean. Hai? 😁👍🙏I'm a proud naturalized Japanese Singaporeean. 👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️
@choonkeonglim6178
@choonkeonglim6178 9 ай бұрын
Yes, Gen Zs are even more financial literate then the millenniums. My ex-neighbour kid, was still in University, at the same time as she was studying, got a real estate agent license. During my time part time was slogging at the factory, 12 hours shifts as a part timer or in the office as an administrative clerk. For her, she just need to do one deal and her pay is 2 to 3 times my part timer's pay. Plus every time there is a rental renewal she will get paid. She ended up working less, ended up with more money.
@dantlanz9239
@dantlanz9239 Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this and thinking, "just the look of the sky at her background screams 'humidity' and 'heat' which even I in my own bedroom now cannot stand. Should definitely have gotten an air-con place to do the interview".
@MaxChernov
@MaxChernov Жыл бұрын
But nice background, is it? 😁
@dantlanz9239
@dantlanz9239 Жыл бұрын
@@MaxChernov nah bro...the sky was grey and heavy with clouds! Definitely humid and stuffy! 😆
@MaxChernov
@MaxChernov Жыл бұрын
🥲
@MegaTonyng
@MegaTonyng 2 ай бұрын
Of cos, her parents did not apply for SG citizenship for her.
@malvinatan6828
@malvinatan6828 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@MaxChernov
@MaxChernov Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@AzrulAz1z
@AzrulAz1z Жыл бұрын
Description on your profile state "Bridging the Gap" but after watching a few of your videos, i feel like it's mostly creating doubts and making living in SG is a very bad thing, most of your interviews are expats or foreigners but no videos of true locals and their views of living life in Sg and what they think of living alongside expats and foreigners.. 😕 no hate though,, I fail to see to that "bridging" in some of your videos.. Some other videos are a really good insight.
@watcher4127
@watcher4127 6 ай бұрын
If she is Singaporean how come she doesn't speak Singlish or Chinese and doesn't assimilate?
@tecumseh4095
@tecumseh4095 2 ай бұрын
She is a Russian born in Singapore. So a cat born in a barn is not a horse after all.
@MsPaperbear
@MsPaperbear Жыл бұрын
i am confused about the accent still. so what's that accent?
@zizou500
@zizou500 Жыл бұрын
With her accent, it'll be pretty difficult for her to feel at home in sg
@kayflip2233
@kayflip2233 Жыл бұрын
Not really, there are tons of expats there at all times.
@celloting01
@celloting01 Жыл бұрын
You don't sound Singaporean! Tricky. I'm British and I sound British, but if I sound American, hmmm, tricky too.
@herzlboy
@herzlboy 2 ай бұрын
She says she has an American accent, but really it’s like a mix of British & Australian with maybe a tinge of Russian on a few words.
@kayflip2233
@kayflip2233 Жыл бұрын
It thought she was a native Aussie, that's the strongest influence in her accent. I'm American and she doesn't sound American at all to me even thought she says she has an American accent
@uwet.8826
@uwet.8826 Жыл бұрын
Is black accent, American accent? The US is a continent, I am sure there are variations from 1 end to the other.
@kayflip2233
@kayflip2233 Жыл бұрын
@@uwet.8826 I'm born and raised in America, I know what an American sounds like. The US is a country. To answer your question "Black accent" an American accent, if the Black person is an African American, then yes, why wouldn't it be? Not sure what the point of that question is. Are you suggesting she has derivative American accent that I don't know about? 😂
@uwet.8826
@uwet.8826 Жыл бұрын
@@kayflip2233 yes, I am sure you are born and raise in every corner of America and so good that you can distinguish variations from every town, Canada, and countries which are half a globe away.
@kayflip2233
@kayflip2233 Жыл бұрын
@@uwet.8826 It's really not that difficult, there aren't thousands of accents in the US or Canada. So dumb that you would even suggest that I need to live in every town to know every accent lmao. There are no obscure accents from a small town somewhere in America that sound Australian. 🤣
@kayflip2233
@kayflip2233 Жыл бұрын
@@singlah She doesn't have a Canadian accent either. Canadian accents are barely discernible from American accents. Justin Bieber is Canadian and sounds 100% American.
@jeffersonfernandez906
@jeffersonfernandez906 Жыл бұрын
how come she didn't pick up the singlish accent
@RonLarhz
@RonLarhz Жыл бұрын
She's not. Most local ang mohs can sound like local even if their main is ang moh accent. The feeling when u r overseas but hear singlish accent,that makes u Singaporean. But she's just like a generic well adjusted ang moh. She also go to international/ang moh school all her life.
@n__5049
@n__5049 Жыл бұрын
She doesn't sound Singaporean at all
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