What is Materialism?

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[@hyperhorion]

I usually do not comment anywhere... But in just 61 seconds you explained a lot of essential things! Gotta give credit where it's due! Thanks

[@CherylFloyd]

You did a great job in a short time. Thanks!

[@60SPH]

Thank you! Is there anything in particular you'd like to see next?

[@KEvronista]

"why are we here?" is a loaded question. "how is it that we are here?" avoids the fallacy. KEvron

[@glynemartin]

Why did your girlfriend leave you and why did she decide to give your best friend a B.J?? Go on... demonstrate "how"... Let's hear about "fallacies". Lol!!

[@KEvronista]

@@glynemartin this perfectly demonstrates my point, that dishonest people phrase even their questions dishonestly. it's what some people do when honesty cannot serve them. KEvron

[@glynemartin]

@@KEvronista How never answers why...

[@KEvronista]

@@glynemartin *"How never answers why"* of course, it does, you dishonest idiot: every effect has a cause. KEvron

[@simonpetrikov3992]

That rephrasing is no longer a philosophical question but a scientific one and there is a great video by Isaac Arthur that answers your rephrased question

[@matthewmcgarry6006]

This is brilliant have to do an essay on this and this helped me a lot I was wondering if you could do spiritual materialism as the whole idea of materialism has peaked my interests

[@jbroskito]

Wow impressive. The gift of summation

[@patcharawarinkulchalit]

Thank youuu, I need to take a exam about this when I have nothing in my brain🤕 You are a savier!

[@moses777exodus]

Every idea, number, concept, thought, theory, mathematical equation, abstraction, qualia, etc. existing within and expressed by anyone is "Immaterial" or "Non-material". Modern science seems to be stuck in archaic subjective ideologies that have inadequately attempted to define the "nature of reality" or the "reality of nature" for millenia. A Paradigm Shift in ‘Science’ is needed for humanity to advance.

[@user-it5po2dq9w]

Not really. Science is and would always be about empirically observing, verifying and deriving theories rather than belief playing as alternative under the veiling of inexplicable

[@kiiyooo4337]

Thanks

[@francismausley7239]

Good talk.. "What is the dust which obscures the mirror? It is attachment to the world,avarice, envy, love of luxury and comfort, haughtiness and self-desire; this is the dust which prevents reflection of the rays of the Sun of Reality in the mirror." ~ Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i Faith

[@Carm0002]

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[@andreciagl]

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[@GottfriedLeibnizYT]

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[@unclejeffssecretaccounttoh8774]

bro speaks like a book, well read.

[@kccts44]

Hope my grades as High as you are!

[@noohairdontcare]

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[@MegaBanne]

This position does not denies any god or soul. It just says that if there is a god and/or a soul then that god and/or that soul have to follow the fundamental laws of nature. Like Newtons laws of motion, the laws of thermodynamics, conservation of energy, conservation of information and stuff like that. I for example like to think of the sun as a god. Our scientific understanding of the sun pretty much fits the description of a god.

[@mindaugasbukis702]

You mean that it fuses atoms inside of it or wut?

[@NoName-ze4qn]

@@mindaugasbukis702 it literally creates matters

[@mindaugasbukis702]

@@NoName-ze4qn First of all sun doesnt create matter. It creates new atoms though by fusing existing ones inside its core. By that previous comment of mine I tried to point that infact sun doesn't have that much icommon with a god.

[@wendigo017]

@@mindaugasbukis702 Technically materialists can believe in ghosts as long as they think the phenomenon can be explained by science. I have one friend who is materialist and an atheist, but still believes in ghosts for example.

[@mindaugasbukis702]

@@wendigo017 I disagree. Materialis is a person who supports the theory that nothing exists except matter and its movements and modifications. Unless the ghost is made of matter and I assume you dont think it is. From what I know ussually ghosts are portrayed as "lost souls" and souls arent material.

[@necronlord8274]

How can anyone even dare to think that matter/outside reality does not exist???

[@60SPH]

People dare to think all sorts of things!

[@AlexanderVorobiov-nf4uc]

The issue is thinking that there is ONLY matter that exists

[@user-sy1ei5mn2l]

What is the difference between materialism and naturalism?

[@Poliostasis]

Naturalism is the philosophy that everything in the universe has a "natural" process, which states that how the universe works is done through non-conscious forces. Does work with materialism, but they aren't the same.

[@IAmNotABot9]

How does this relates to the Marx's concept of dialectical materialism?

[@user-it5po2dq9w]

Materialism is so scientific absolutism

[@edblair5253]

You aceentuated the 'fotever' in an incorrect manner unless i have mostly misunderstood your understanding or that of the mainstream. Thamk you for your thoughts and would appreciate any reply.

[@60SPH]

Not sure I understand what you are saying

[@kumpulanresepsimpel]

In indonesia : tan malaka

[@isaiahkelly8955]

Hmmm... This is what Thomas Hobbs believes... He was a high believer in materialism. Which explains why he got his book burned post after the English Civil war

[@timmy18135]

I thought that materialism was that philosophy should be grounded in the real world

[@mercytanchiying]

Hmm hopefully science can one day explain what happens after death?

[@user-it5po2dq9w]

It already does. One's body as material is decomposed into other material

[@rockprime1136]

Not exactly though. You can destroy the medium on which the information is stored like the hard disk for example. But the information itself will remain. It could be encoded on something else like in the form of programming code written on paper or may exist in the mind of the programmer himself. Either way information is immaterial and is independent of the physical medium in which it is written or encoded. I believe consciousness is immaterial as well but I concede that its nature is an open question. We cannot make definite scientific conclusions if consciousness remains after death though various religions say it does. The afterlife may be beyond the reach of science and is something we will have to see for ourselves once we die. If there's nothing, it doesn't really matter. If there is one, you better hope you have prepared yourself according to the precepts of your religion if you have any.

[@AlexanderVorobiov-nf4uc]

@@user-it5po2dq9w All you did was explain a material process, which is single faceted. It says absolutely nothing about how consciousness transitions from something to nothing. Even then, we have absolutely no idea what ‘nothing’ even is outside of our insignificant human comprehension of it

[@arosalesmusic]

At this point with all the evidence for Concsciousness as being fundamental and spacetime emergent, Dawkins should be having fits. 🤣 "Materialism is untenable for several reasons. One of them is the internal contradiction: it defines matter as something that is independent and alien to consciousness and has no inherent qualities, and then it tries to explain the qualities of experience in terms of something that was defined as having nothing to do with experience. And that failed to do that and then we wonder why it failed." Bernardo Kastrup.

[@Everywhere4]

What? Is the standard definition of matter not „It has rest mass and takes up space ergo resisting compression“.

[@chomperplant2843]

Can you also be materialistic and know God? Because I have always wondered if playing games on computer can be materialistic, but at the same time I do believe in existence of God and spiritualism.

[@60SPH]

That’s two different types of materialism. One described in the video, and another regarding valuing material possessions. One has no bearing on the other

[@fathurrachman9498]

i think pantheism is close to this, but most pantheist deny existance of spiritual realm and only claim god as part of material universe.

[@John0123.]

Then gotta love materialism.

[@satellite_anomaly]

Seems like a gray area when you start to consider the complex plane. Humans can’t perceive the happenings here with our own senses, thus we use mathematics and technology. Does the manifestation of “real” occurrences as a consequence of complex actions deem complex behavior a physical thing? Or does it presumably lie outside of the physical since it’s not something we can directly perceive? Oohh, thinking about this more deeply, I just opened a can of worms when it comes to time. Einstein developed the space-time relationship using the conversion of the imaginary number i into a real value, which gives us a way to perceive said relationship despite not actually being able to “see” time like we can spatial dimension. So from a materialistic standpoint, is one led to believe that time really doesn’t exist? I’ma stop before I start sounding too ridiculous. Cheers.

[@jokerxxx354]

Daniel Satterfield well time doesnt exist, so what?

[@trorisk]

Not an explication for everything. They don't claim explan "human nature" or why people are not rational.

[@pathowogenempire9968]

*Nervously sweats in marxist*

[@tiannadowney6843]

God bless, Jesus loves you

[@Ansh-bg3sm]

Fuck god.

[@KahinAhmed72]

@@Ansh-bg3sm Don’t say that, He took the time to make you. Respect Him

[@Ansh-bg3sm]

@@KahinAhmed72 any proof that he made me?

[@Ansh-bg3sm]

@@KahinAhmed72 and your god can make peace everywhere but rather he sits on clouds watching us suffering.

[@tiannadowney6843]

@@Ansh-bg3sm Question; If Christianity was true, IF.. would you become a christian?

[@AWayOfLiving84]

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[@stephenblackwell7851]

Are time and space made of matter? If not, then the reality of the non-material is evidently possible.

[@yashashwisidharth7676]

Materialism doesn't mean everything is made of matter. It means everything is in a physical realm following the laws of physics. Time and space is in physical realm. Don't confuse materialism with matter.

[@yashashwisidharth7676]

@Karl Marxsteingoldberg-Kikenschmitt If there are subatomic particles that doesn't follow CURRENT Laws of physics that means out knowledge of physics is not complete. And we need to update laws. It doesn't mean that they don't exist.

[@glynemartin]

@@yashashwisidharth7676 Intelligence is not of matter neither did it come from matter...so??

[@caricue]

I don't have a problem with materialism. There could be a material god, that is all powerful and knows everything within the material universe. He would have to be composed of matter and/or energy, and be able to interact with matter in order for us material beings to know anything about him. This posited existence would have to be demonstrable, like any other phenomena. Then again, nobody really wants a super-being for a god, they want the made-up kind that isn't part of reality.

[@glynemartin]

Materialism simply posits matter itself as "God himself" essentially.

[@9535310131]

Quite true, I am curious whether concepts like Language, Color can be explained in a purely materialistic world view

[@josegonzales9169]

It isn't really about matter but rather, the physical. And it doesn't talk about God or something divine or "supreme". Just that the physical is all there is.

[@glynemartin]

@josegonzales9169 _"Just that the physical is all there is."_ Therefore, thoughts and ideas don't exist. Correct?

[@josegonzales9169]

@@glynemartin From a materialistic perspective, it can be argued that thoughts and ideas are perfectly representable and extant in a materialistic reality, there are tools that allow us to measure brain activity. Synaptic connections, neuronal engrams, make up thought processing and memory.

[@glynemartin]

@josegonzales9169 Rubbish. None of the criteria that define matter can be applied to a thought or idea. Colour, density, volume, mass, boiling temperature, and melting point are the six main physical properties. Shape, size, hardness, flexibility, texture, odour, temperature, volume, length, freezing point, electrical conductivity, and so on are some further examples. It's just that _"Matter is all that exists"_ is a load of baloney...

[@Pandapanda-lq3hh]

I mean Epicurus was a materialist and believed in the existence of gods so ...

[@swordleo]

wrong

[@Pandapanda-lq3hh]

I know what i am talking about. Epicurus admitted the existence of gods in his Letter to Menoeceus. Lucretius who was also a materialist believed in gods. They just have a different conceptualisation of gods

[@swordleo]

there's a difference between god and creator

[@Pandapanda-lq3hh]

What are you even talking about ? They both used the term "God" in their books.

[@swordleo]

God is someone you worship Creator is the first cause of the universe but he doesn't care about human and there life he just create the universe like Spinoza god

[@Klaus-Schwab_Dictator]

I'm Atheist materialist.

[@iwatochmyna9764]

Materialism is false.

[@vladmir161]

Prove it.

[@iwatochmyna9764]

@@vladmir161 Materialism is actually the most dogmatic view of the world, because it states that consciousness and subjective experience come from matter and that reality is outside mind. However, everything we perceive, feel, think is fundamentally in mind. Material reality must therefore be a total metaphysical abstraction devoid of experiential qualities, and this reality is by definition inaccessible, even when we die. It would be much simpler and parsimonious to admit that all reality is in consciousness, which also solves the hard problem of consciousness (why aren't we p-zombies? The emergence of qualia from matter, according to materialism, is an appeal to magic).

[@iwatochmyna9764]

@@oozejelly188 ?

[@Poliostasis]

@@iwatochmyna9764 I don't think you seem to understand, I'd imagine materialists would believe the brain itself to consist of your consciousness. Most materialists are open to new ideas or things about our reality- if it's actually provable and testable, infact I imagine materialists to be the least dogmatic if their worldview was shaken up or needed correcting. Differences between materialists and spiritualists when it comes to their dogmatic beliefs comes down to whether they believe something is true from physical evidence or emotional evidence.

[@iwatochmyna9764]

@@Poliostasis This identity between brain and mind hides under the carpet the whole ontological question. Which ontological category (mind, matter, X...) does each of them belong to ? Is it the same or not ? I should also prevent a confusion between the study of how things behave (science) and theorization, guided by logic and epistemic tools, about what things are (metaphysics). Materialism is THE least parsimonious metaphysical paradigm humanity has ever thought of, since it implies that the borders of our brain-generated experience actually encompass the entire observable universe. The physical world should therefore stand beyond, while remaining totally unaccessible, even after our death. Such a postulate violates epistemic sanity (Occam's razor) to an astonishing level. We don't need it, we can indeed make sense of the whole in terms of mind (monistic idealism, that came to resurrection especially thanks to the work of Bernardo Kastrup). The hard problem of consciousness is merely an artifact of bad thinking, arising by refusing to recognize the obvious contradiction at the core of its presupposition.

[@datmemecat]

Thanks