What is Mystery Babylon - Part 1 with David Rosenthal

David Rosenthal, Director of Operations for Zion's Hope, addresses the important topic of the identity of "Mystery Babylon" -- biblically, historically, and politically. There have been many theories about who, what, and where it is. David explores details and an increasingly possible, even probable, answer to this riddle.
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[@Brandaniron]

Excellent teaching. All of the pieces of the puzzle now fit together without forcing them. Great work !

[@moimeme3356]

Thank you so much for sharing all your excellent work in this "What is Mystery Babylon" series - it's inspired! I want to ask about something David said at @ 12 minutes (here in Part 1) - i.e., that we're raptured before the time of God's wrath. Maybe we should see the time of God's wrath on Egypt (just before Israel left) as a parallel for the future time of His wrath? The Hebrews were kept safe from the plagues God sent on Egypt - they weren't "raptured out" of it, and so perhaps we will be kept safe from the plagues He will send upon the earth in the future, and we'll be raptured afterwards. Glad David pointed out that the Word doesn't call the final week of Daniel's prophecy "the tribulation." There's something else the Word doesn't say, but everyone seems to think it does: that the millennial Kingdom will be "on earth." In fact, if you look at Rev. 20:4-6 in light of John 14:1-3 and the ancient Jewish wedding customs, a different picture emerges. The Groom comes to take His bride to His Father's house - which appears to be the New Jerusalem (not yet descended from Heaven) - recall that John uses a simile in Rev 21:2 which infers this. Yeshua said His Kingdom is not of this world (John 18:36). From this, we may conclude that we will not spend the Millennial 7th day on earth, but in whatever dimension holds the New Jerusalem. The 8th day is the time of God's Kingdom on earth - a clean and re-made earth (2 Peter 3:7). Many hints about this: -- tabernacle/priests consecrated on 8th day - see Lev. 9:1, 24; (Ezek. 43:8) -- Yeshua rose on the "8th day" of the week- see Matt. 28:1 -- circumcision 8th day, Lev 12:3 & Lk 2:21 (new heart Jer. 31:31, 33 Ezek. 36:26) -- Shemini Atzeret "I will not drink wine again with you until..." Lk 22:18 Mt 26:29 May we be found faithful. Blessings, dear ones!

[@justkenzie]

My long-distance pastor in South Dakota has recommended your studies. So far, I'm finding it very helpful!

[@LillyKC23]

This is crystal clear! Thank you!

[@ethelfruge1211]

Thank you so much.

[@ethelfruge1211]

Thank you so much. I must go listen again and take notes and reread the Scriptures so I can teach others. Thank you.

[@davidgleason6323]

@ 12:07 The question is WHAT is the wrath of God. Is it the metaphorical bowls or is it the Day of Atonement where the world is judged by fire as it was in water with Noah?

[@janeslate3066]

the wrath of God will be poured out at the Whit throne Judgment seat

[@christianpatriot7439]

Daniel's 4 beasts are not a repeat of Nebuchadnezzar's statue. Daniel's 4 beasts exist at the same time; they are not successive: Daniel Daniel 7:11-12 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time. Any preacher who claims that Daniel 7 is a repeat of Nebuchadnezzar's dream hasn't really studied the Bible.

[@FridaRunghen]

Your study is interesting but Revelation chapter 7 verse 14 does mention tribulation. Check it out. Whether it is during the 7 years or not but the tribulation happens somewhere

[@KingsDaughter.]

Yes Revelation chapter mentions tribulation. That's during 6 seals. If you read Matthew 24 and the seals of the book of revelation you will see that those are same events. Both refer to great tribulation. Great tribulation starts with abomination of desolation and Antichrist cutting his confirmed covenant with Israel. We don't know how long the great tribulation will be but Bible gives us some clue that it will be a little shorter than 3.5 years, it will be cut short for the sake of the elect.

[@mikewalsh1402]

It’s not about the Pope, the Vatican, and the EU! IT’S ALL ABOUT ISLAM!!

[@tknox39]

Incorrect. Its about all people of all nations and tongues. The whore of babylon is the coming apostate religion ( people of all faiths that thinks they are all worshipping the same God ). Mystery Babylon the great is a nation. Do not put Rev. 17 and Rev 18 in the same context. Its obvious that you don't know much about Islamic end time prophecy. Read up on it, you will think twice about Islam and end times. Their prophecies are very similar those of the bible. What scriptures lead you to believe this about Islam???

[@KingsDaughter.]

It is very much about Islam, the greatest enemy of the Lord and Israel

[@rayober2273]

Sorry, every verse tells us about Rome.

[@larrymcclain8874]

Deuteronomy 28:15-68

[@Rueuhy]

Listening to that woman coughing in the front row. I'm thinking "She's got the covid 19!" But this video is almost 3 years ago. Prophetic cough?

[@womandela7225]

😂 The "cougher" is in every audience. Never fails.

[@melissazehnder3832]

LMBO

[@redskypreparedness2319]

Yeah because people never coughed before Covid.

[@KingsDaughter.]

Prophetic cough 😆😆

[@devieanderson451]

iF You can or if you will consider, Please listen to this...what this man says clearly about Rome... Romulus & Remus vs. Saints Peter & Paul Sensus Fidelium

[@ronpiper4548]

I do agree with you that the 10 toes and 10 horns are the final beast kingdom. Also the Islamic caliphate is the 7th kingdom that follows Rome. I still see Rome as the iron legs and the beast but the 10 toes of iron and clay and the 10 horns as the caliphate that grew out of the ruble of the Roman empire.

[@nicklandry8019]

That’s interesting for sure. I’ve being thinking maybe the legs represent the two distinct sects of Islam - Sunni and Shia

[@KingsDaughter.]

@@nicklandry8019 that's interesting, I haven't thought of that before

[@solitarypawn5076]

What makes anyone think that Dispensationalism is true?

[@l0v3truth]

Ikr

[@kevinmayer9371]

America is mystery Babylon read Revelations 18

[@serahkonner]

Dude your religion claims to be light

[@larrybedouin2921]

And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. {Revelation 17:15} The seven headed beast of Revelation 17: The seven heads are symbolic of seven kingdoms, starting with the beast of Daniel chapter 7 1st < Babylon 2nd < Medo-Persia 3rd < Greece 4th < Pagan Rome 5th < Papal Rome; the little horn ("that was" & "is not" & "yet is") 6th < "one is" ^ The woman that rides the beast is in captivity at the time of John's vision, AFTER receiving the deadly wound from the (atheist) beast from the bottomless pit [Rev 11:7]. This is the beast of THE TIME of John's vision IN THE WILDERNESS. (Meaning that John is in the wilderness in his vision and not physical on Patmos, and he sees a beast that would come up from out of this wilderness. Read Job 38:26.) The 7th < "is not yet come" At the time of John's vision *in the wilderness* this head of the beast was yet to come; this is *the beast from out of the earth* [Rev 13:11]; (And he shall exercise all of the power of the first beast...) when this beast will speak like a dragon. This beast must continue a short time, as per the others before him. I believe by the testimony of Jesus, that we are now living in that "short time". The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. {Revelation 17:8} :11...even he is the eighth, AND IS OF THE SEVEN, and ascends out of the bottomless pit and goes into perdition. --There are seven heads at the time of John's vision, five kings/heads/beast are fallen, so this eighth is of the seven kingdoms...."that was"...."and is not"...."yet is" AND received a deadly wound; AND his deadly wound was healed. This wound is the loss of her (the woman/church that rides the beast.) temporal sword (also her captivity), which is the earthly secular world kingdom. This is the image of the beast (that great city), who like Babylon of antiquity, who thinks to usurp church and state craft. The number eight is a metaphor for the resurrection. The eighth is resurrected from a former head of the seven; the 5th head that received a deadly wound. (When he shall go into perdition: this will be the final dispensation of this beast with seven heads, that is a metaphor for satan.) Jesus; (The resurrection; Jn 11:25) Ἰησοῦς/Iēsous = 888 by counting the letter values of the Greek transliteration; I(10), E(8), S(200), O(70), U(400), S(200). In antiquity the mountain was not only a metaphor for a kingdom, but it was also symbolic of the head of a (river) dragon that was symbolic of a river that flows out from a mountain, after the spring thaw and overflowing its banks, spreading out in the form of the dragon's tail. The color is scarlet because it is symbolic of the blood of the saints of the Lord. A woman in prophecy is always a metaphor for a church, in this case (Jezebel) it is the fallen temple of God. The false prophet, a lamb (Christ like) with two horns, and/but will speak like a dragon (a wolf in sheep's clothing), will be the beast (from out of the earth ... the USA) that will make an image unto the first beast from out of the sea, who received a deadly wound and his deadly wound was healed. The two horns are a metaphor for two (equal) kingdoms in one, church and state craft. Medo-Persia also is expressed as having two horns [Dan 8:3], but one was higher, (Persia) and eventually usurps the other. This is the image of the first beast from out of the sea (Papal Rome). Once the wall of separation of church and state is lost, then will the second beast from out of the earth become the image of the first beast, who claims the authority of both church and state. Even so, come Lord Jesus. Amen.

[@777lilibeth]

First I will say Israel is the Mother of Harlots, now I will prove this from the scriptures, In Revelation 18:7-8 it stated the whore says in her heart, I shall never be a widow, only one nation on the earth can make this statement, Israel, because they were the only ones married to God, meaning their husband could never die, so they cry I shall never be a widow, but this is even more truthful when read from Isaiah 47:7-9 where the prophet said the harlot says I shall never be a widow neither shall I know the loss of children, but these two things will happen to you in one day. Since Israel married God as the only nation that has ever married God, they can cry I will never be a widow, and since Abraham was told your seed shall be as the sand of the sea and the stars of heaven, Israel cries I shall never be childless, but the day Israel killed the Lord Jesus Christ they killed their husband and became a widow, on that same day they became childless, because they killed their husband and now no one can become a child of God unless they are born again, making Israel childless. Again, Revelation @ said in the whore was found all the righteous blood shed, of prophets and so forth, then in Matthew @-35 the Lord Jesus said to Israel, you are guilty of all the righteous blood shed, from the blood of righteous Abel and so on. Again, 60 times in scripture they are called a whore by God through his prophets and are even referred unto as Sodom and Gomorrah by the prophet Moses in Deut. @ and by John the Apostle in Rev. 11:8 She is noted as a harlot by Isaiah and Jeremiah especially, thus the mystery is no longer a mystery.

[@tknox39]

Absolutely incorrect.

[@christiansoldier77]

This guy gets some things right but other things wrong

[@sydneyhoward3754]

You are jumping a few verses. The Bible says after rome, the kingdom shall be divided. Which kingdom was divided if its not Rome? Ten kingdoms csme out of the roman empire out of which 3 were plucked out fron its roots. Now you say its not rome but the islamic caliphate. Which kingdom divided into ten Islamic caliphate? What are the names of these ten? Among the ten rose a little horn. Which islamic caliphate is this little horn? This interpretation of the bible doesn't add up. And the church age is not biblical. Sorry i dont buy any of this.

[@BombshellBibleProphecies]

You're right! Original Hebrew and Koine Greek Texts plus a Study of Modern European History and Current Events point to a REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE OF 10 CONFEDERATED KINGS & SULTANS WHICH MUST REMAIN '' FOR ONLY A SHORT WHILE'' ALLIED WITH A RED BEAST WHICH ''WAS-NOW IS NOT-BUT WILL BE PRESENT'' OR COME OUT OF THE ABYSS AS A REVEIVED U.S.S.R 2.0 FOR ''ONE HOUR'' before they are DESTROYED at the Return of Christ with His Heavenly Armies (Church Miltant & Angels) AT ARMAGEDDON!

[@Charles73358]

There is so so much wrong with this interpretation of Daniel 70th week prophecy . You have to use your common sense in the word of God along with spiritual interpretation through the Holy Ghost if there were a 7 year Gap in this prophecy then Daniel is still on his knees praying for his people Israel and Judah and Daniel is also still asleep in Jesus because if there was a Gap then the graves would not have opened after Jesus resurrection and the holy ghost would not have come on the day of Pentecost. Jesus said that he came to fulfill the law of the prophets and then he said that it was expedient that he go away for if he did not go away the comforter will not come. So you have to ask the Lord for spiritual understanding if you truly know God because you will be held responsible for teaching false doctrine and misleading God's people. And The Daniel 70th week prophecy is not relevant for the Christians today that are Gentiles this 70th week prophecy was because of the idolatry and iniquities and sins that Judah and Benjamin were a part of in the worshipping of Baal and burning their own children to sacrifice unto Baal upon every high mountain and under every green tree playing the harlot so these Jews were cursed by God for 70 years and in Daniel's prayer he said for his people Israel during that time in history there were no Gentile Christians the gospel was not extended to the Gentiles until 40ad when Cornelius received the Holy Ghost and his entire family and God did not demand for the Gentiles to be circumcised. So why would this prophecy be a part of the Endtimes for as the rapture is concerned ? This is a serious misconception of scriptures because when Judah and Benjamin went into captivity the circumcision of the flesh was still in place after the day of Pentecost when Cornelius received the Holy Ghost God did not require for Cornelius to be circumcised so this prophecy is not a connection for the rapture of the church under the New Covenant we are all one in Christ Jesus God is not going to rapture the church and then deal with Israel for 7 years. Jesus was crucified in the middle of the 70th week which left 3 1/2 years left in which he commissioned his Apostles to go and spread the gospel to the Gentiles and Cornelius received the Holy Ghost but the prophecy was not fulfilled until 70Ad because the scriptures says that desolations are determined and the prince of the people that is to come will destroy the city and the temple and that occurred in 70Ad but 70Ad was the beginning of sorrows because the wars in Jerusalem took a 45 year break and then commenced from 115ad through 1967ad the six day war these wars were the great tribulation that Jesus was referring to in Matthew chapter 24 these wars coincides with Rev.17:12-17 Concerning the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast are ten kings and at the time that John had his vision these ten kings were not alive yet but the ten kings represent the ten wars that occurred in Jerusalem from 115ad through 1967ad the six day war and the ten kings will make war with the Lamb and the Lamb shall overcome them and God used the Ten kings according to his will and the Ten kings will hate the whore and make her desolate and naked and burn her with fire. The burning of fire denotes wars in Jerusalem and Jerusalem is Mystery Babylon the mother of harlots because she was arrayed with the same colors as the old Testament high priest robes and on her forehead says Mystery Babylon the mother of harlots the same as the Old Testament high priest he wore a golden crown on his head with an engravement on a ribbon saying Holiness To the Lord. The scripture says that she was drunk with the blood of the prophets and the Saints this coincides with what Jesus told the Pharisees in Matthew chapter 23 Jesus told them that they would be charged with the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias and all the innocent blood within the Earth and Jesus came back between 66ad and 70Ad to pour out his judgements on Jerusalem and the temple and in the book of Revelation on the Roman Empire because Rome is identified as nations or nation in the Greek the word Nation is Ethnos " meaning a heathen nation Non Jewish. And Also the day of vengeance had come for the judgment of God to be poured out against the Roman Empire for persecuting and the martyrdom of the Christian Jews and Gentiles in Asia Minor Amen 🙏 !

[@TheArtisticGardener777]

Mystery Babylon, Babylon the Great, the woman who sits on the scarlet colored beast, that great city, is America. The scarlet colored beast is Yellowstone.

[@antifakexpose5864]

NO!

[@Seaofglass510]

@Bryan R Rivera could be Neim City, but what about Mecca?

[@4thgradedropout703]

I believe the same thing, but never heard anyone say it. It's good to hear there are other like minded people out there.

[@Kenayi22]

The Holy bible clearly describes the harlot as the great city that will persecute the body of Christ. Revelation 8:11 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Now, where was our Lord crucified? The obvious answer is JERUSALEM

[@josephkuzara2609]

Babylon is not Jerusalem, Babylon is the city of Babel in Iraq. Jerusalem will not be utterly destroyed as babylon to never rise as again as city. Jesus' reign will be in Jerusalem for 1k years after the utter destruction of the city in Iraq. God will not forsake His people. There are two great cities Described in Revelation, Jerusalem and Babel.

[@robertcain3426]

It says that the beast will make war against the two witnesses. It is not the harlot, Babylon.

[@dudleygordon6191]

Rev 11:8

[@yongzeal]

Bible is complex and leads to many contradiction. God's world will never confuse people so better do your research for the truth.

[@tdstone8910]

Just because someone dosent understand something dosent make it a contradiction

[@rogercloud6003]

This is what living in denial looks like. "Messiah the Prince" is Caesar Augustus. He was made "Pontifex Maximus" (Pontiff aka the Pope) in 12 BC. The roman catholic church is the Roman Empire.

[@mikewalsh1402]

Wrong, The Antichrist will arise from the Middle East! Both he and the False Prophet will be Muslim! The Harlot of Revelation is Saudi Arabia! Islam was birthed there. A ten nation Islamic Confederacy will be the Scarlet Beast of Revelation! The commonality between the Harlot and the Scarlet Beast IS Islam! But the Beast will hate the Harlot because of her decadence and her alliances with “western nations”. (Research - NEOM) This will ultimately enrage the Antichrist, and he and the Scarlet Beast will turn on, and destroy, the Harlot!

[@SamanthaTollstam]

nope.

[@deus_vult8111]

He’s dead wrong. The command to rebuild in Jerusalem was in 457 BC not 445 BC. He also erroneously separated the 70th, final week with the rest of the 69 weeks. That’s false. There will be no final 7 years. The final week ended in Jesus’ day. Jesus died in the middle of that week.

[@kurtpoetschke6481]

Amen

[@galatians2twenty]

Mystery Babylon is Jerusalem, yet so very few recognize it.

[@peds4real273]

How can mystery Babylon be Jerusalem get totally destroyed and no one ever live in it, never be inhabited again and yet Jesus reigns from it??

[@kevinraney3968]

At the 8 minute mark he misquotes Daniel saying, "Seventy Sevens", which is a popular "re-interpretation" of the verse. The verse actually says "Seventy Weeks". If you give this man license to "re-interpret" the bible, you do so at your own risk. He makes no effort to explain that his "re-interpretation" it exactly what it is, but moves on as though the bible actually says "70 Sevens", which it doesn't. The "experts" (there were several) that put together the KJV using the manuscripts of different languages (there were several) are in a much better position to correctly interpret the passage. There IS A REASON why the experts used the word "Weeks" and not the word "Sevens". Most likely, they understood the nuances of the languages MUCH BETTER than this man, who is NOT AN EXPERT in those languages, some 400 years later. Conclusion: This man is misleading the audience.

[@692MOM]

Its 70 weeks of years....Hebrew "Heptide" not days...70 weeks of years 70 x 7=490 prophetic years total....the prophetic clock stops @ 483 years (Jewish calendar) 360 days in a year! He is right 7 years left...He is not misleading anyone, at least on this point!

[@paulspaulette6197]

Biblically, the characteristics are all laid out in scripture.. all characteristics point to Jerusalem. Google all the characteristics. They will all be found in scripture. All are about Jerusalem. Thank you teaching the correct timeline and correcting the 3.5 trib and the 3.5 yr of wrath🎚✝️ Iron is Rome AND THE ANTICHRIST COMES FROM ROME (Daniel 9:26)

[@approvedofGod]

Although the presenter sounds sincere, he is sincerely wrong. His statement that the fourth world kingdom is "not" Rome is ridiculous. His focus is on the ten toes of the image, and the ten horns in Revelation. The problem here is that the ten toes, ten horns were part or alongside the beast. So the beast is not the ten toes or horns.