What Is Nonbinary? ♦️ Revisited ♦️

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@mirandan483
@mirandan483 3 жыл бұрын
Nice gender diamond. I tried to make one of these, a gender pyramid, with the same points, equally spaced. That way you could be any one, between any two, or three points without the others, or between the four of them. Ultimately I decided it was too complicated to be worth it, but it's still how I like to think of the gender spectrum.
@RebekahSolWest
@RebekahSolWest 3 жыл бұрын
Very thought-provoking, thanks for sharing this. Edit: this comment got long. TLDR I like nuance. I’d be very interested in learning more about your model incorporating aspects of gender identity into sex, gender expression, and social role instead of leaving it as a separate part of gender. I agree with you that centering gender identity and disregarding the other aspects of gender is often not practical offline. I only joined trans spaces online a few years ago, when I realized I was trans, so I might be wrong, but I think the centering of gender identity is probably a result of people trying to empower themselves online after having been invalidated offline. I like your gender diamond. Two-dimensional models of gender are certainly a huge improvement over the one-dimensional man/woman spectrum. I would argue that it’s more helpful to think of gender as having at least three dimensions: agender woman, agender man, and agender third gender. That would allow me (a non-binary trans woman), for instance, to specify that I am 100% a woman, and some percentage third gender, and yet also 0% a man. And of course these could change over time. I suppose you could argue the model could get less practical as we add more dimensions, but I prefer to leave options open for people and not be prescriptive even if that makes my ideas less concise. Also, and maybe I am completely off-base here, but I personally think using the term “trenderfluid” is a bit dangerous without mentioning that it’s a joke, and that the term “trender” has a history of the use by some transmedicalist gatekeepers to bully gender non-conforming people to extreme degrees. I’m not genderfluid, though, and I realize that I may be missing context, or this might be a commonly-recognized joke term, or something. Lastly I’m sorry to hear about the ‘feminist’ developments in the German language, I hope gender-neutral terms become more common there. Great video overall, thanks again for sharing it! Second edit: I’m a non-binary trans woman and my pronouns are she/her, and I appreciate that you specified that pronouns are not always the same for any given gender.
@RebekahSolWest
@RebekahSolWest 3 жыл бұрын
@@freval2493 awesome!
@c-zardos6778
@c-zardos6778 3 жыл бұрын
Non-binary, native Colombian, ALL pronouns any language. Same issue in Spanish. What I do (and this is completely for me regardless of propagation) is to attempt to find, or make up, a term that avoids gender instead of encourging it: The community have come with a gender inclusive pronoun: El/He/Er - Ella/She/Sie - Elle/They (singular)/(?) To me these feeds into the narrative that nonbinary is a third gender, and I understand that each culture has its own journey to pull themselves out of the binary, but I like this better: El-Ella-Elle>>>L Hahahaha, might seem like an oversimplification but the simple ¨L¨ sound allows me to very sneakily put it in conversation whether people get it or not. Aaaand same goes for text; context gives it the meaning, but it kinda looks like a typo :P Hehehe, in spanish even plural and ¨it/es¨ are gendered :V Because it is so ingrained in everything in these languages (and after a lot of personal deliberation) I think the only way to ¨fix it¨ is that those who are constantly using them start actively including terms into conversations and let them stick or not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ that´s how languages develop and evolve. As individuals we have the power to both promote terms (thus concepts) that we enjoy or agree with, and to create and self promote terms and concepts others might connect with and might help built a social culture we could consider optimal for as many as posible (never leaving behind, of course, personal comfort levels to the posibility of putting yourself in the spot because of trying to promote change) ...and that´s my piece :D Love your work by the way!
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