What is the 1959 Claim line, need for a National Security strategy & Modi's border strategy

What has changed in India's defence measures since China's offensive maneuver in the Galwan valley and why does India not have a National Security strategy? Lt. Gen. HS Panag (retd) answer this and more in #ThePrintVideo, with Dishha Bagchi.
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[@okee7]

General Panag never disappoints; he frank, honest, analytical along with his amazing personality and looks of a film star!

[@anuchugh31]

Lesson for common Indians, work hard, develop yourselves and help country develop. I work with Chinese , they’re very hard working people maybe with less strategic thinking but extremely cunning and loyal to their country. Jai hind

[@SarthakBhatia]

India doesn't care if it's own have opportunities to develop. People work hard enough. No Jobs, No recognition...just govt being corrupt and promoting the cronies..

[@সুমন্তনাগ]

Right.

[@efffinghoottt0000000]

What a highly insightful interview! Colonel is very knowledgeable, but it's brought out brilliantly by the interviewer! More of this please

[@ThePrintIndia]

Dear viewer, Happy to note that you liked the video. Do keep tuning in daily.

[@himanshugautam3405]

he was a general not colonel

[@singlendhot8628]

God her voice is like nails on a chalkboard!

[@jumdas1049]

Nah. Sounds like a daughter.

[@studytime2570]

Bhahahahaha and look at all the CCP bots crying in the comment thread now lmao so obvious .

[@jaydeepgadhavi5465]

At 33:07 it's a big claim that we have had a warning since 2013. I'm hearing it for the first time. So did we move forward with the DS-DBO road even when we knew they came in while we were constructing it in 2013 ?

[@gurmelsingh1040]

Wonderfull detailed explanation thanks

[@VickySingh-ww7lb]

Thank you sir for sharing your views...

[@KevinApte]

Is it true that ithere are 2 McMohan lines-one as agreed by the Tibetan side , and a different one was published by the British in typical colonial skullduggery? One idea: Develop the disputed area as a solar park , and store the hydrogen energy in the form of Ammonia? China and India can both keep 50% of the revenue from the Renewable Energy park which could be located in Aksai Chin. India can also allow China to invest in some infrastructure projects in a way that is not debt laden.

[@santosh_979]

The China issue is like fooling ourselves.

[@aqeelkhurshid4860]

Tea is fantastic! 😉

[@ddb0831]

Camel piss is better.

[@sagarborah5359]

Bhikari Paki

[@shokivarma7134]

And Gen Panag when will we catch up with China, both economically and technology. Another 50 years....

[@jitkr1489]

maybe never. What is your point?

[@jumdas1049]

India will never be a military nation

[@jaydeepgadhavi5465]

Sir, at 8:22 you put out that the 1959 claim line was in exchange for the macmohan line. So for the future where shall we make a stronger stand. Macmohan line is much more unfeasible today than agreeing to this 1959 claim line that is disadvantagous to us.

[@KJ-tq3sm]

Border crisis Is over. India has accepted China's claim line. Are you paying attention?

[@ramrao668]

@@KJ-tq3sm border crises will be over once Tibet is free again

[@KJ-tq3sm]

@@ramrao668 - You can even free Ladakh 🤡💩

[@yogindernegi5751]

India does not have a national security strategy. Does it indicate the continuity of NAM or is it a far-fetched notion ???? Any comments...

[@sandeepsingh-lp4mf]

Please address him as Lt Gen Rtd, PVSM, AVSM not former.

[@mayureshrasam1708]

or Retired

[@COSMICTUNECOMM]

Indian political leaders have ruined

[@KJ-tq3sm]

that women is SO ANNOYING.....stop making cat noises every 30seconds

[@efffinghoottt0000000]

Sounds like you're jealous she's talking to your idol

[@coconutpunch123]

56 inch 😂

[@Puneet144]

Verbose. Lots os statements of facts. Very little analysis. The interviewer could have dug deeper.

[@studytime2570]

China's southernmost territory is Hainan. The 9-dash line claim is not based on history -- as your government claimed -- but on an expansionist agenda. There were no proofs that China took control of the entire SCS, especially the Spratleys. Not even historical records. There are maps dating as far back as the Song Dynasty showing China's southernmost territory is Hainan and not the Spratleys. If you think I'm lying, I can share you those maps. Your communist government is lying through their noses that the Spratley belongs to China.

[@omraul7819]

General Panag, I have been a fan since I first saw you in Central Command back in 2008. With respect i disagree about the views on Nation Security Policy, it's rudimentary and naive to declare one's security policies, keeping it unknown has its own advantages. No first use of Nucs and shift to on ground retaliation from the former verbal kadi ninda is known. Also declaration of policy and failing to follow it shows poor optics. And I am shocked to hear you say that our forces are directionless, wasn't it part of your job too when you were an Army commander?

[@surajbiradar9827]

1) Almost every major nation in the world has an unclassified national security strategy. You don't need to spill out all secret info on the public domain. That's how things work in most countries, Are they stupid in doing so? 2) By not having a formal NSS you are doing disservice to yourself. How can you work without having a goal. For eg. If I want to eat a mango, I need to have the money to buy it in the first place. If I don't have the money I may have to think of borrowing from others. Or in the best case scenario find a tree and pick a mango from that tree free of cost. If you set realistic and necessary goals then you can find ways to achieve it. -If you don't plan on sending your military overseas, then you don't need to invest in expeditionary capability. - If you don't need to land on beaches, there is no point in having amphibious capabilities. - If your NSS needs you to control the seas you absolutely need carrier strike group. But if you can't afford to have a CBG so you adopt a sea denial strategy then you should build a A2AD complex. Equipment and weapons flow from capabilities and capabilities flow from the strategy. 3) its interesting that you mention nukes. Because we have a clear policy of nuclear weapon. And all of our capabilities are built around that. That's the point I am making. 4) "Also declaration of policy and failing to follow it shows poor optics" This is exactly why our politicians don't want accountability. It's like having a race with no clear end line, in this case anyone can declare victory anywhere anytime without making any effort.

[@omraul7819]

@@surajbiradar9827 nice, just one question - What makes you think that our Defence forces don't already have one which has not been declared. The goal is loud and clear, always has been within the forces. It's naive to think that our massive forces could operate so seamlessly without the desired policy or clarity. I mean if you still want to put out a document to the world because other countries are doing it.... 😂😂 And you really think that a policy document will make a political govt more accountable, any evidence to support this or I assume this is wishful thinking 🤔

[@surajbiradar9827]

@@omraul7819 Because General Narawane our former army chief has stated this in an recent article about the lack of NSS. This is not some out of the air rumour. And our military currently has a functional strategy that's what general panag has mentioned did you not listen?. But NSS is not just about the military, it's about economics, resources, foreign policy etc. you can look at our military acquisition programs, they are so hodgepodge due to lack of clear vision and commitment. You are just in denial at this time mate. Our entire government runs on documented strategies. How do you think the government follows foreign policies like look east or act east?

[@omraul7819]

@@surajbiradar9827 lol, matlab Jo aaya Mann mein tape Diya 😂😂 I did listen to the Gens and their wisdom, they did mention about the document but there is no claim that the procurement woes are attributed to the lack of it, because it's not, a seperate paper can be written about the issues affecting procurement. In my wisdom I see no value in public declaration of national security policy, its nothing short of a sham, no Country in their right mind would give out the real policy, at best it's use would be to mislead or manipulate. Each dept in the Govt should have their long term work cut out, and only the NSA collates the bigger picture, info flows on need to know basis only and objectives should be met. For discussion sake, let's take a hypothetical situation of annexing POK territories, now should such a thing be part of some National security policy document out in public, or the document completely omits it but acts on the contrary, how does the optics look? Declared and stated positions entail that either the position becomes static or any change will bring negative flak, whereas if the positions are undeclared, it's much easier to act according to the situation and without the prejudice of stated position. God knows if this makes any sense to you, but if it doesn't I recommend you to also read Sun Tzu's art of war, maybe kuch samajh aaye.

[@hareshgaglani2955]

Shekhar Guptaji, you have done extreme disservice to the General and the viewers of this video. This young lady may be otherwise capable but is completely at sea in military matters. You could have either interviewed the General yourself or deployed someone more seasoned and clued-up like Jyoti Malhotra or Mr Swami.

[@snoopytintin4878]

Snehesh would have been best

[@srinisbir8781]

@Boom Good one!

[@rakadus]

Jyoti -😢

[@rakadus]

The idea of this video appears to be too provide a megaphone to the retired General. The other employees of The Print have strategically distanced themselves from the general.

[@kuldipsinghbrar5859]

Excellent tour de force of India-China standoff by General Panag. However, why did we pull back from the brilliant strike on th Kailash Range, even if the Chinese pressurised us to accept certain give-and-take in Ladakh. We could not compel the Chinese to pull back from our critical loss the Depsang Heights. Overall, we ended up with more loss than gain. I agree with Panag that for the foreseeable future we need to adopt strategic restraint while staying firm at the Line that we are holding to prevent China to make any further gains. Remember, China is not going to let tranquility prevail in the NE nor Ladakh. We must remain fully vigilant all along our borders.

[@sunnyuutinn]

1. why indians still work and live in all chinese countries in fact more and more ??!! MAY BE THEY SHOULD KICK ALL OF YOU OUT ASAP especially in your twisted mind, you're going to be a super power 1000 years later 2. come to think of this , does it actually matter which line they/ you are on ?? since india ( in all honesty ) has hundreds of millions of undesirable people and that ever expansion of undesirable people , WHY BOTHER WITH THE LINES ??? 3. is this world so short of 3rd world , undesirable people ???

[@sunnyuutinn]

ps china had a war with india in the 1960s ( I actually did not know that since I am actually a native korean) and china won yet in the 1960s, china was at the weakest moment ! japan had wars with russia over territorial claims and japan won ! so , what does this say about the far east asians ??!!

[@arjavgarg5801]

​@@FC-vp9ej how will china get back its ceded lands then? How has the economic power paid off in that regard?

[@arjavgarg5801]

@@FC-vp9ej please fight the entire US with 1 soldier if numbers don't mean anything

[@Red.bulldozer3]

China had already achieved its 1959 claim line in ladakh. Now it is claiming whole of arunachal pradesh .

[@shokivarma7134]

Gen Panag I am not in consonance with your thinking. I am giving you 2 examples of meeting threat perception. During the 1st world war Germany started building it's Nav Churchill who was chief of Naval Staff.. He position Ed the Navy and blocked German Navy throughout the war. 2nd example Iran felt threatened by America and Israel. They started building UAV'S And today their drones can bring down the best of fighters. When China started developing it's technology, we should have also done so. Sorry very unimpressive,

[@surendrabarsode8959]

1. To describe him in a decent manner, General is a 'naughty boy' ! It is not India-China who have reached stalemate but it is the Gen himself who is now stalemated for his outpouring against Modi Govt since Dokhlam - Galwan days! Anyway, he has provided a short, non political but clear historical overview of the developments in Ladakh and Arunachal border since 1950s. And as he says we are indeed at a stalemate now where the future is uncertain and will depend on how scenarios evolve. 3.Gen is on the spot about National Security Doctrine and we need it badly. Whatever be the reasons for not having it so far, we should have it now. Hope Modi Govt announces it before 2024. BTW, why Gen does not spell out his version of our national defense doctrine and strategy? That may be good starting point for debate. 4. Gen seems to have changed his tracks and is now well positioned to join the national mainstream of security analysts and be out of narrow, anti India confines of The Wire, The Print etc. 5. Such caustic comments apart, Gen Parag has covered Indo-China issues in a balanced manner and deserves all the kudos! Thanks General!

[@beryanbeyaan8047]

He is a clown. He did nothing when in command of Northern Army except count and measure size of andas. So he was removed from command.Nowadays he only does b@kchodi on internet...

[@surajbiradar9827]

Ohh how dare a professional hurt the ego and pride of our divine leader? Why he is not praising him? He must be anti india gang who want to create a nucense in our leader's sacred quest...!!! Hmm..!! I mean who in their right mind questions the supreme authority?

[@MihirS84]

@Lou Smith how dare you insult our religion

[@agnipiya9861]

What a tragedy. He does not sound a sycophant of your great Modi who is always right.

[@ic9771]

@@surajbiradar9827 acc to Panag Chinese aggression began when India concluded the N agreement with the US & simultaneously started upgrading our border infrastructure around 2008. I distinctly recall reading news reports on China grabbing some minor territory in the Ladakh sector during the Kargil war when for obvious reasons the troops on the LAC were thinned out. Secondly why did we suddenly decide to upgrade our infrastructure & build new ones ? Wasn't it in response to what the Chinese were doing in Tibet & Xinjiang from 2000 onwards . This is exactly what the poster you're posting ad hominem's about was referring to as Panag's MO aka Modus operandi though he's toned it down several notches. As far as great leader & all those childish jibes go apart from in & before 1962 around 2012-13 IIRC , Shyam Saran ex FS & Chairman NSAB went on record to declare in public in an article India'd ceded control of some 1000-1500 sq kms of land in Ladakh since 1999-2000 , the article since taken down.

[@rickbarrington]

General Panag needs to have a key role in the Govt. He is a sharp kind who speaks with great insight from first hand experience

[@nagbalkur1365]

good overview and government strategy is also correct. A time will come in future when India would be a much better position to deal with this situation and hopefully it'll happen in our lifetime

[@pandurangnatu]

Precise and to the point description by Lt.General (Retd.) H.S.Panag.The Print representative needs substantial improvement.

[@SkSingh-tu8un]

I feel the young lady who interviewed the general did a remarkably good job and allowed the general to do most of the talking. I feel even seasoned interviewers should learn from this and allow domain experts to do the talking. The result was a brilliant summary of the ground situation by the general.

[@mohitSharma-iq2of]

@@SkSingh-tu8un true that mr singh.

[@studytime2570]

Peace in this region is not possible until Tibet, East Turkistan, Inner Mongolia or Manchuria get their independence back from prc.

[@Jkl62200]

Free Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh, Khalistan, Punjab, Sikkim, Assam, Ladakh, jammu and kashmir

[@KJ-tq3sm]

Dont forget about Depsang😅🤡

[@chinanumbawun111]

​@@Jkl62200Free Balochistan, Sindh, Gilgit-Balistan and Punjab from porki

[@deepakdwivedi9912]

NSA is busy with Politics. And there will be no Strategy for anything with this "Nautankibaaz" Government. If the country loses its land the Modi will blunt face tell lies "कोई हमारी 1 इंच ज़मीन नहीं ले सकता" 56 इंच का सीना 😂😂

[@2010anilshukla]

Given Gen Panang’s stature a more senior interviewer should have been assigned the job.

[@parikshitmazumder9326]

Sakil sir ye kisko leke aaya aap....? Full cartoon hai to....😂 Rana saab debate karne ke pahele thora home work kor lijiye please.... Education talks. 😂😂😂

[@sukhparhar]

Well done Gen Panag, as always, succinct, precise diagnosis of the situation

[@anonemous]

Why won't india disclose the full Henderson-Brooks report if the Modi/BJP nationalists claims are true?

[@suryavadlamani1896]

What is that?

[@sven_86]

please pick a better host and improve your audio connection if you are going to have Gen Panag interview of this length and depth.

[@sshray1115]

1959 Claim Line National Security Strategy 20:30 Defece Minister's Operational Directives

[@francisdsouza3321]

Sir, I salute you having huge knowledge n the way u have put across to us how does it work. I could keep on writing but no much space. However appreciate n the same should viewed on TV Thank you.

[@soonpohtay4794]

The key phrase "we inherit from the British"....

[@Jkl62200]

This discussion started with... 'we inherited'... Indians think they are the continuation of the British Raj. Herein lies their problem. China will NEVER accept any line drawn or imagined by the Brits. Indians should negotiate on behalf of India.. Not as inheritors of when they were colonial subjects.

[@ramrao668]

Indians don't except illegal occupation of tibet which the Han Chinese think they. inherited from the Manchu empire

[@suryaprakasaraobollepalli3936]

The Print anchor is found woefully inadequate to interact with an eminently knowledgeable guest like the good General today.

[@efffinghoottt0000000]

Just curious, why do you feel so

[@beryanbeyaan8047]

Anda anda anda anda anda anda anda anda anda anda anda ...jarnaillll.

[@jestfuldemigod]

Im sure print can afford better audio devices for it Interviews?

[@subratabhattacharya9792]

A student of class 10 , Sitting in a MASTER DEGREE classroom in an UNIVERSITY 😮.

[@aliferrari1680]

Finally this honest and brave indian General Panag has admitted that china has occupied indian area's 2020 that the indian Modi BJP officially refutes.

[@gazwa-e-chin9045]

any content related to India-China issue exists. ccp bots in the comment section: we are summoned 🇨🇳

[@ramsharma4702]

Commie China will not and does not honor many agreements ! Alike Commie China , India should take the same line , draw its own lines and force to defend the new lines .

[@hotfun07]

Very insightful interview 👍🏻

[@ThePrintIndia]

Dear Karan, Thank you for watching!

[@shokivarma7134]

Gen Panag have you read the latest Bhutan China agreement. We have been left open mouth. Awe is the word.

[@azjahptgrg730]

Why the trade is flourishing with China where we have deficit and not with Pak where we are sure to be in Surplus because of our superior quality products. Seems like a lame policy for chest thumping.

[@berserkhorimiya]

You need to change to your mic ma'am.

[@avinashtyagi5160]

Typical display of expertise post retirement....the world knows your capability, biases and loyalities.😁

[@0000dexter]

I really liked how Disha Bagchi opened the interview, without welcoming Lt Gen HS Panag (but just mentioning him), I guess she would be having her reasons to do that. If she did it inadvertently, its a blessing in disguise for her!

[@naddirpatel]

Accursed Nehru the Chinese stooge continues to haunt independent Bharat.

[@KJ-tq3sm]

She is not even listening.........."right, uhm, hmm, hmm, right, umm, up, ye, yes, right" 😅🤣😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@saanjanibaar8085]

Its not Arunachal pradesh, its Zangnan under indian occupation. Peace in the region is not possible until people of Kashmir, Zangnan, or the Northeast union get their independence back from india.

[@saanjanibaar8085]

India should give independence asap to Kashmir, Zangnan, and the Northeast union peacefully, it's better for india.✌️

[@_xan678]

What are you trying to achieve by giving such comments? This won't give you Atta

[@Nation806]

Balochistan and KPK is Free country🙁🙁🙁it's time to free Tibet

[@shejwalkarhemant3110]

​@xan678 China doesn't grow wheat so not aatta in future. 😂😂😂

[@omraul7819]

​@@saanjanibaar8085 what is your nationality? Do you carry an Indian passport? Should we revoke that first and put you in a refugee camp? Then you can ask for your freedom...

[@KailashSingh-fm3vu]

Gen saab we only work on assumptions what China could be having in mind. In actual fact even Chinese leaders have no clarity on how much more Indian territory they need to lay their claims on. So they keep changing goal post.

[@priyavratshukla7511]

Someone said ‘koi andar nahi aaya’. So based on this interview it was complete bullshit. Just making a fool of the citizens.

[@sanjivgupta1418]

Thanks to both, General Panag and the interviewer, for having such an enlightening discussion.

[@hokz7283]

We need such open and frank discussions without any domestic political compulsions.

[@joshuacherian6718]

Indian army must move into Tibet

[@mg.f.9023]

"Na koi wahan hamari seema mein ghus aaya hai, na hi koi ghusa hua hai" - PM

[@BeE_AriyaN]

Because they were sitting inside our border since 1962, so factually the statement is correct. (Seema= border, not LAC)

[@mg.f.9023]

@@BeE_AriyaN "Look, they (China) are the bigger economy. What am I going to do? As a smaller economy, I am going to pick up a fight with the bigger economy?" - MEA Mr. Jaishankar

[@hawkingdawking4572]

But there are no borders. That's the problem.

[@BeE_AriyaN]

@@mg.f.9023 "The narrative that the Indian government is on the defensive, being accommodative. Who sent Indian Army to LAC? Rahul Gandhi didn't send them. Narendra Modi sent them." - Dr. S Jaishankar "Sometimes they spread news that they know is false. They project as if it happened just now, when it, in fact, happened in 1962... They won't talk about that" - Also Dr. S Jaishankar

[@mg.f.9023]

@@BeE_AriyaN If Modi government was serious of securing our defences they would first seek to Unite the Country not divide it along religious divisions. They along with the RSS are more interested to change India to a theocracy than to strengthen our Democracy & It's people.

[@amanj3051]

He Clearly has more domestic Political hue in all his comments and To my Surprise,He doesn't appear to have Sound strategic mind when it comes to military and overall state security.

[@gyalpot]

Regarding India Tibet border up to March 1959: Tibet was a sovereign independent nation and China had no rights to negotiate the the border with India. Thus both sides visa vis China and India did not and still today do not have a demarcated border in the Ladhak area. However, India failed to mention that the MacMohan line in the north east was agreed to by then legitimate Tibetan government and the the British Raj mentioned in the Simla agreement of 1914. This current border crisis between India and China is the result of both nations not focusing on the Huge elephant in the room, i.e. Tibet!

[@hawkingdawking4572]

Tibet was not a sovereign nation as you might assume in the current politics. Tibet was self-governed but China had the dominance over it as Tibet had been paying tribute to the Chinese emperor for centuries.

[@hawkingdawking4572]

MacMohan line was forced on Tibet by British. It's a line on paper without having much idea about the ground realities. Besides, China never agreed to the MacMohan line.

[@BeE_AriyaN]

​@@hawkingdawking4572 the same Macmohan line which China follows in case of China - Mayanmar border is suddenly a forced line when it's about India - China border. What a logic sir Ji 😂

[@BeE_AriyaN]

@tytxlx6503 I was trying to say that China didn't rejected the Macmohan line just because British forced it on them, otherwise similar arguments would have been on the Mayanmar side also. & Talking about privilege, if India then was unable to make the valid argument for their demand & claim which the Chinese would understand & agree just like they did in case of Mayanmar, then it was India's problem, & I'm not denying that. Similarly if current Indian establishment isn't giving in to Chinese demand of new claim line & continuing the stand-off on the previously agreed claim line then it's China's problem, & no one should deny that too.

[@KevinApte]

Is it true that there are 2 McMohan lines-one as agreed by the Tibetan side , and a different one was published by the British?

[@jawaharlalbansal1062]

A national strategy against china is possible only if opposition parties and ruling parties are on same page

[@amoghdhodapkar1338]

Fascinating informed opinion. It is interesting on so many levels but as per the general, the offensive manoeuvres by China along the LAC in Eastern Ladakh happened because of a) Border infra work close to LAC at a rapid pace since 2014, b) India's aggressive posturing on Doklam and c) India's re-engagement on QUAD. It was done to send India a stern message that embarrasses India/Modi and strategically coerce India into shifting away from QUAD or any kind of alliance. BUT it has actually done the opposite. While short of a military alliance, India now sees itself more and more aligned with US and QUAD. It's developing roads and infra at a even rapid pace along borders. Contrary to what China expected which was for India to submit and surrender to China's actions, India's troop build-up along Eastern Ladakh has actually prevented China from nibbling any territory further and ensured a sort of a stalemate. My interpretation is that a) May be China has got this wrong strategically after all. and b) After the political mistake of not taking the initial troop build-up from China seriously and acting soon enough on initial military intel, Modi government seems to be on a mission. It does not want to get caught again while also sending a message to China it cannot be bullied.

[@samnote2459]

Thank you. Much needed clarity on this topic

[@mithileshkumar352]

Excellent interview by Mr Panag.

[@North_Lights]

India should happily discuss and re negotiate Mcmohan line with Tibetan people, let accept the fact that China invaded and occupied Tibet as colony, India does not border China, India border Tibet, the chinese government is an occupier government of Tibet.

[@Red.bulldozer3]

Modi had said no chinese soldiers in indian soil. Then why indians claiming aksai chin as theirs?

[@studytime2570]

Bhahahahaha and look at all the CCP bots crying in the comment thread now lmao so obvious .

[@BeE_AriyaN]

@tytxlx6503 & why do you think Modi would answer for what debacle happened in 1962. Of course the people asked for present scenario & the answer was correct for that scenario, "neither anyone entered, not anyone is occupying anything (after 1962 ofcourse)". But to understand that you need context, not an ill-edited video clip.

[@arvindverma2213]

What is future connect of the Buddhist summit on Tibet and Tibetans ?

[@Dipps]

same like start up India , stand up India , Demonetization , smart cities ...etc etc etc

[@nishalall3510]

🌷

[@sahilkalebag1953]

Finest analysis ever done!!❤

[@gurusastropalmistry2214]

In short, we have lost the adv which we had before. Secondly, PLA has come inside our claimline and made bufferzones inside our claimline. Finally, we are now left with only one option: accept & formalise the chinese claimline of 1959 in return for peace along other parts of LAC

[@omraul7819]

Which adv are you talking about? I remember in 90s people would cry in same manner about western Kashmir (PoK), now see the tide has changed. Obviously it will take economic strength and necessary support from other powerful nations to confront China. It's not an option in the present situation so stalemate. General sahab bol kya rahe hai, aap sun kya rahe ho...thoda dhyan deke suno miyan

[@gurusastropalmistry2214]

@@omraul7819 Advantage = Terrain

[@gurusastropalmistry2214]

@@omraul7819 aap bhi thoda dhyan deke suna karo miyan! 1st read more about 1959 claimline before commenting

[@omraul7819]

@@gurusastropalmistry2214 Babu i have served on the line so I know for a fact that these areas were not occupied and both sides patrolled, so no side can claim terrain adv. However the Chinese built on the connectivity and infrastructure of these areas and subsequently force deployment came in. The present Govt did the best they could to pump up infra and force levels in the short time they had. Ever wondered why it took bloody 70 years to get decent roads in the country, the same incompetence and corruption put us years behind China. We are now playing catch up. So chill and stop sweating about it while sitting in the comfort of your home. The present Govt and our armed forces have shown that they are prepared to take on these challenges.

[@gurusastropalmistry2214]

@@omraul7819 Since you have served in those areas, you are directly contradicting Gen Panag! Go through the video once more and listen to him about the "Terrain Advantage". Maybe you should write to the Print informing them that Mr. Panag is "factually incorrect". Regarding the infra along these areas, the work had started way back in 2006-07. It was after the PLA incursions that we speeded up. The reasons for PLA's incursions are due to political blunders by the present govt. That is a wider topic. However, since you have "served" in these areas, you might very know that India has lost control over 26 out of 65 posts. If you think that this info is fabricated, then pls refer to the SSP Ladakh's report that was posted in the IPS officers' conf in 2022. Note: day before y'day, times of india article also reported the same. No one from Modi govt has issued any rebuttal. Now that you have seem to have excellent knowledge of this area, and fortunately, I am a GIS expert, we can discuss each and every point threadbare. Lets start with access roads to DBO (Daulat Beg oldie) post. We have lost the strategic advantage that we had due to DBO because PLA's artillery is within 9 kms of this post. Since you have served in this area, you ll know the strategic imp of this DBO. Hope you can come up with more ground info that I cannot get from my satellite imagery that I processed

[@tapankumarpanda4689]

Nice analysis👍

[@SkSingh-tu8un]

A wonderful episode.

[@ThePrintIndia]

Dear viewer, Thank you for tuning in.

[@COSMICTUNECOMM]

We have lost landscape that is reality Himalayas Tibet

[@surajbiradar9827]

​@Tyt XlxWill you share your wife and house with your neighbor? Like why not?It perfectly fits your communist way of life doesn't it? Why have separate wives, families or houses? You can save money by sharing one wife with your neighbor. You have separate families because you want to have 'your own separate family', and you want to live with them in your own house. And not because you hate your neighbor. It's that simple!!! An example of California and texas?? Like seriously? California and Texas joined the US because they were settled and controlled by anglo americans. Did you miss this history? Why didn't you use a more common example of France accepting German rule? Because it doesn't help your argument. India doesn't want to 'join' China because maybe India doesn't want to be a slave, or it doesn't want to be under communist dictatorship where you can't even make a joke on winnie the pooh, because indians are a different civilisation for 1000's of years. India is building Infrastructure and economy on its own, it doesn't need to dissolve into China to achieve these things. Two sovereign nations can coexist without fighting and one nation isn't required to disappear to satisfy the ego of another nation. What a bullcrap argument..!!!

[@jarjarbinks3193]

@Tyt Xlx "instead of fighting against China, why not join China?" Naw, Indians don't fancy eggs boiled in human #1, CCP wonderland's national food and cultural treasure.

[@rajeshmoudgil9440]

​@Tyt Xlx nameless, faceless, senseless person wants opinion. Just fade away from this thread.

[@aman72kamboj]

Army which had attacked Darbar Sahib in 1984 will be defeated in all battles... Full support to Pakistan and China..

[@ScoobyDoo-zp1sq]

The place India calls Arunachal Pradesh was only renamed in 1987 from North-East Frontier Agency. A very Indian sounding name is it not?😂. The fact is, the place was known as southern Tibet for centuries. The Dalai Lama was even born in Tawang and the place is historically Tibetan. The place was a land grab by the British and name nothing of significance (North-East Frontier Agency) and now India has come up with a fake name (Arunachal Pradesh) in 1987 to justify the land grab. Look at any map of the mughal empire and Askin Chin or Tawang were NEVER part of India. The border always ended at the foothills of the Himalayan mountains.

[@akashbhasin788]

In the words of the beautiful artist, singer-song writer, Selena Gomez, - If you want it come and get it Na na na

[@non_done]

😂😂😂😂 yea right mughals were the one we refer to for everything 😂😂😂 chal be..

[@jumdas1049]

The Bharatvarsh made up of homegrown santhal etc indic tribes extend way beyond arunachal. Even though the tibetoburmese are seeping in. Unsuccessfully. The land of indics Bangladesh is a thorny plain that will never be crossed🌚

[@ketansingh7482]

If china frees Tibet (a land it is grabbing unethically), then we would be more than happy to give the land to tibet 🤣🤣🤣..

[@ketansingh7482]

You are taking into account only the land grabbing done by British..and turning a blind eye to a vast chunk of land called Tibet which china itself is occupying

[@KJ-tq3sm]

The Indian ascent is unbearable .lol

[@studytime2570]

still better than xing ping

[@studytime2570]

minions.

[@jumdas1049]

*accent

[@surajbiradar9827]

How about you work on your vocabulary and spelling before making fun of others accent.

[@jarjarbinks3193]

Somebody has had one too many of those eggs boiled in human #1, (CCP Wonderland's national food and cultural treasure) 🤪

[@arnavaggarwal8770]

Waiting for fascists to call out Mr. Gill for being anti-national. According to people like Gaurav Arya everyone is anti-national if they oppose Modi. I wonder who Arya’s real father is.