What is the ACTUAL difference between the DT770, DT880 and DT990 Beyerdynamic headphones?

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The Beyerdynamic 770, 880 and 990 all share the same driver design but have totally different sound signatures. Now... I know there are many versions of each of these headphones with impedances ranging from 32ohm to 600ohm which all sound different but in this video we will look at how they have tuned the sound of the driver an enclosure. It is quite interesting to see the differences and the techniques they have used to tune them

[@kafkaworkshere]

Well done! I find it fascinating how headphone manufacturers sell us the same product, with a variety of creative tweaks. You have taken this beyond where others have gone.

[@CustomCans]

Thanks ;)

[@msd5808]

Thanks for this breakdown (hopefully not literally). The 880 Edition may be designed after these 770 and 990s, but from what I understand looking at their old catalogs the 880 was the original of the lineup (early 80s, I had a pdf catalog from 1984 which shows a DT 880 Studio, DT 880 Monitor and regular DT 880 edition. They had lesser models too like DT 660, 550, 330, 220). The 990s came out later in the 80s as the last of the three, meaning to be the ultimate. Of course these models have been further tuned and redesigned over the years since then, so one made today probably does not sound the same as a new old stock (NOS) from the 80s or 90s. They also used to sell one in the early 90s called the DT 911. These days they sell something called the TYGR 300 R for gamers, which is a modified 990 that has different filter pads inside it. I think the same kind used in the Amiron, so the highs are less harsh.

[@CustomCans]

Glad you liked it and thanks for the info - I really should do more research into the history of them

[@abhi22]

I can understand why they'd stop selling the DT 911.

[@therealwhite]

Actually, there is no foam in the regular Amiron Home (unless my model was just robbed of them. Maybe that's why they, imo, suck) . The Amiron Wireless has them for sure.

[@GWills-ys6rd]

Great video and I appreciate all the technical insight from the teardown. But there are also a couple of additional factors such as application of use and impedance in terms of which hardware to drive the headphones. For example, the 770 - (80 Ohm) seems to be the sweet spot in terms of versatility between studio desk and small devices such as Laptops/Phones/iPads etc.

[@CustomCans]

Yes, we may have to do a 32 vs 80 vs 250 vs 600 ohm to see what the difference in sound is

[@mustafadigibong6833]

@@CustomCans Great video mate. I'm your new subscriber btw. I've got 770 - 32 and 80 ohms, but I haven't used open ones. I know impedance matter and I'm really curious how it relates to sound experience. I love nice bass and some highs too. What would you recommend please? Cheers

[@CustomCans]

@@mustafadigibong6833 If you like the sound of the 80ohm DT770, I would probably stick with those and potentially fit one of our mod kits to squeeze out a little more goodness from them. The 990 have better treble but less bass. They are worth having a go on as the open sound has a certain magic but they do have a much more treble focused sound.

[@paulwoaert]

But the 770s are heavier and less comfortable than the 990 (it's very obvious, I test one after the other at home at the time I write this comment). We quite easily forget that we wear the 990 on the head, which is not the case with the 770s, which are heavier but also more compressed on the head with a more suffocating result after only a few minutes. The 770s are also a lot warmer. On the other hand, the 770s have a sound that retains the bass more and we are more immersed with them in the sound perspective, largely because we are in a closed environment. This does not prevent the 990 from also offering a very clear sound with a bass layer@@CustomCans

[@kimholm7410]

this was great. had already bought the 880 Editions. They arrive in 2 days but I believe I made the right choice. My Audio Tecnica's kill my head and they are so dang hot. Good results mixing with them but excited for comfort.

[@McBeast22]

Liked and subscribed! Great job mate! Keep feeding our curiosity!

[@CustomCans]

Thanks ;)

[@ildafons]

Wow thanks for this video! I was wondering on the difference between 990 and 770 as I have 770.

[@CustomCans]

Glad I could help!

[@johnwright8814]

This is a fascinating glimpse into the inner workings of headphones. So many headphones have a treble peak at about the same frequency, (even Sennheiser's HD800), at 6 to 8kHz, that I suspect that it originates in the physical dimensions that they have to use. The only way to mitigate this peak seems to be the use of damping material. Any ideas on how to eliminate this at source?

[@CustomCans]

DIYaudioHeaven do make passive filters for different headphone - we built one of their designs into some 1990s in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZOYoGOtis6amqc

[@johnwright8814]

@@CustomCans I have the DT1990, I use the equaliser in the RME ADI-2 PRO. I measured its frequency response and waterfall to set up the EQ. It's smooth apart from the peak. I measured my HE400i at the same time, it's waterfall response looked like a stack of dinner plates waiting to go into the dishwasher. Clearly there's a limit to what EQ can do.

[@AlOne-xg6dv]

I use the software from Soundworks "SoundId Reference" which makes its best to bring the sound as neutral as possible for headphones or monitors or both. It costs a bit but even if you change your headphones or monitors you will get the best from them. I am happy with it.

[@adamgreenhill110]

8:40 "A lot of *Edition-al* love" I see what you did there 😆

[@CustomCans]

lol

[@kahlilmichaelpastoriiescur9493]

Thanks for the break through....or is it breakdown....or better yet showing the ins and outs of the best selling headphonea out there.

[@andreweleccion4941]

This was very informative! Thank you and keep it up. Really helped me make my decision between the 3. If you see this comment, would you prefer the DT 770 or the DT880 overall? I have already negated the 990s out of the question since my ears are sensitive to the harsh highs.

[@CustomCans]

Pretty tricky - it is down to personal taste - I like to block out the outside world so DT770 :) I actually have a pair of Custom One Pro as my daily Drivers

[@andreweleccion4941]

@@CustomCans I ended up getting the DT 770s 80ohm version and I thoroughly enjoy them lol 👍🏽

[@recluseliang1291]

Nice content. Cheers man.

[@CustomCans]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ata000001]

You are a bit comparing apples and oranges, when the DT880 is the Edition version and the 770 and 990 are the Pro-versions. The Pro-models are cheaper, more plasticy and meant for studio use and the Edition models are designed as hi-fi headphones. So the question is that is there a difference of the sound between the Pro- and Edition-models, like DT990 PRO and DT990 Edition... At least the Edition model does not have the part covering the opening in the middle, they do have similar looking internals, as I just had my own DT990 Editions open as I was replacing the cable, but is the difference mostly just cosmetic or something else... who knows. They are supposed to have the same drivers and similar sound according to Beyerdynamic, just different headband and fit (the pro model is supposed to be tighter and Edition more comfortable).

[@RestlessZombi]

"Its Hot today so Shorts or Jeans? Yes" replies Jason.. Thanks for the inside view of these, its nice to compare how open they are by comparison.

[@CustomCans]

I don't know how you spotted that but yes - I have discovered that if your jeans get distressed enough, they eventually turn into shorts ;)

[@poplife5136]

Hi bro, i am still confused, I need it for music production, listening and mastering. Which should i prefer. Comfort is my main priority over sound.

[@CustomCans]

Probably the 880 or some of our V3 tuned DT770

[@chinocracy]

Same driver as in the Custom One too? That's what I have.

[@CustomCans]

Pretty much - I know on the original custom ones the driver had a much lower impedance. So same design but with a different voice coil

[@SwiftMcJay]

Hi, which pads have the larger internal diameter?

[@MrSouzy]

I have the dt990s and 2 pairs of dt880s. I was wondering what the score was with 600ohm drivers. Nothing I had would drive them properly. So I got myself a proper tube amp. For pop and rock music the dt990s are really great but the dt880s for jazz and classical through the tube amplifier have to be experienced. I doubt that there are many other headphone amp combination out there which come close. It is like listening to some really high end speakers. Amazing imaging. Ps the 990s are basically unbreakable. I know mine are used by my sons as well.

[@frog382]

You shouldn't doubt. I believe they sound great trough warm amp, but they are not even at the top of the headphone range, let alone speakers or enthusiast grade equipment. Ive heard 770... For 1 minute, it was so bad i dont even grant them a second chance, but i see how they would be more balanced with darkness and warmth. If you seek jewel of a headphone, try finding HD 250 Linear I 600 ohm. It has to be exact model and you will hear them open up with better amps.

[@edmc2]

😎

[@aaronTmusic-250]

The fixed cable is the downfall of these incredible headphones as I have just learned. Will not be buying ever again. Such a shame.

[@CustomCans]

We sell them with detachable cables ;) or you can get the new DT700 and DT900

[@dand6450]

Bro those cant compare to the dt 880 Not even dreaming

[@CustomCans]

I should spend some more time with the 880

[@squirts1]

what's the real difference between the 250ohm and 600ohm DT880??

[@CustomCans]

About 350ohms ;) They have a different driver so do have a different sound - the 600ohm ones need to be amped but are supposed to sound better. I have not herd a 250ohm pair so can't compare them

[@stevetech5150]

yeah i dig these breakdown videos cuz no one else makes the effort to take them apart and show the components and engineering behind the sound. good stuff!

[@CustomCans]

Thanks - glad you are enjoying them

[@Joseph__K]

Hey man, i just want you to know that this is an amazing and informative comparison. Thank you and to more subs! cheers!

[@CustomCans]

Thanks ;)

[@papp215]

Love my 990 pro but i would like to see detachable cable on them and that 880 case looks awsome

[@davedave4087]

i have both 990 and 880. i bought the 880 first. a week later i bought the 990. they are definitely different. i would choose the 880 for anything that didn’t require a bass involvement like electronic music. the 990 gave the bass (extra), but the 880 gave a nicely sweet mids and highs. comfort is unbeatable

[@judeboxlie]

Thank you for this deepdive unboxing of what's happening truly inside the headphones !

[@CustomCans]

Glad to hear you enjoyed it

[@MillsMF]

i had to click of this video because of you're t-shirt. Sorry.

[@CustomCans]

It is a pretty awesome T-Shirt ;)

[@no-man_baugh]

Dang thanks for this video After getting some used DT 990s I got replacements from amazon. I still listened to the old pads (The seller said they cleaned it and the pads certainly smelled of some kind of cleaning chemical, so no worries on grossness) so I did have a point of reference on what these should sound like. When I got the replacements, from Beyer's official store page, they sounded way boomy and different. It wasn't until I watched this vid when you showed the differences between the pads that I realized what happened, I compared the two pads and sure enough; my stock pads had black foam on the inside and my replacement pads had silver foam. I got DT 770 pads when I wanted DT 990s Edit: It was from a third party amazon seller, not beyer direct, but it was on beyer's page

[@h.g.1409]

Thanks a lot but This guy sounds like a bond villain

[@CustomCans]

I am saving up for my hollowed out volcano and monorail.... One day....

[@kieftoker]

Best comparison of these 3 variants, thanks! Will get the 880s for sure!

[@CustomCans]

Thanks - Glad it was helpful

[@vox9841]

Hi , I have the DT880 PRO what would the difference be? Also I would like to send them to you to convert to balanced, what would the advantage be? Thanks

[@impuls60]

I'd like to see an update on the HE400SE build. I just bought a pair and the aliexpress Sundara headband for a custom build. Should be a fun project.

[@CustomCans]

I would like to see an update on it too ;) Just have not a spare couple of hours to play with them further - hopefully should have the next one up next week some time

[@Tatsumi_aki]

Great video. Never seen any of your videos but the way you presented the facts and got straight to the topic of the video was incredible. I gave you a like and subscribe just for that. Keep up the hard work.

[@CustomCans]

Thanks

[@Akirilus]

On dynamic drivers, to limit the airflow in the back of the driver means to tame the bass, all dynamic drivers have something there, cheap ones have paper, expensive ones have that net material like the 880's have in this video. AKG are the masters here, the masters of using the least amount of effort to tune their headphones, basically all AKG headphones have a small patch of that material stuck to the back of the driver where the air exhaust is. If you remove it, they gain a LOT of bass, pretty much a 5-10 db boost up to 200-250 KHZ. Unfortunately, the driver can't take it so if you do remove that it gains noticeable distortion. Anyway nice video. Personally I can't say I like what Beyer is doing here, I find it to be messy, but the results matter and they seem to be getting great results.

[@RichJT87]

I have the 880 pro 250 ohm. I honestly love them so much. Bought them quite cheaply used and they're one of my favourite possessions. I was a bit scared by the 250ohm thing but they run on anything,

[@CustomCans]

Yeh the 880 give a lot of bang for your buck

[@yungraph]

why not do an audio comparasion with a mic?

[@payman.amini1]

Thank you very much, this is exactly what what I wanted to know, well done. I have request, I really want to see what is really different inside of 770-80 ohm and is there any differences between (16) - 32 - 250 - 600 ohm other than driver impedance, pads and headband pressure?

[@CustomCans]

the 80 and the 250 are the same inside - it has been a while since I have done any 32ohm ones but I don't remember it looking any different inside. They all have the same headband so any difference in clamping force will be down to the thickness / density of the pads

[@payman.amini1]

@@CustomCans Thank you for the fast reply but then why do 80 ohms have more bass compared to 250 ohms? Years ago I have read somewhere they are tuned differently and after watching this video (after watching your cable and dampening mods) I thought you are the one who can do it perfectly with all that experience.

[@ravington666]

Great vid but......even more confusing for somebody deciding between the 770s & 990s as the on-lines reviews are very conflicting when it comes to bass output, It seems to be around 50/50 on which model has more bass ranging form the 990s having hardly any bass at all.... to having more bass than the 770s which is very weird indeed....Would be great to hear your opinion after a sound test.....

[@CustomCans]

I think a lot of the confusion comes from the fact that there are a lot of different versions of each with different impedance. The 32ohm ones sound very different from the 250ohm and the 80ohm are somewhere inbetween

[@ravington666]

@@CustomCans Ok In your opinion comparing 32ohm versions of both the 770s and 990s, which one would you say has more pronounced bass ?

[@Terra101]

@@ravington666 The problem with closed headphones is that you need a good seal to not lose the bass. That could have been the case with people saying they have got no bass. And also unit variation etc.

[@marcotesta1973]

for keyboard arranger Yamaha PSR-SX900 is better 32,80 or 250 ohm? thanks

[@CustomCans]

Probably the 80 as it will run nicely off most equipment and I think they are a little better than the 32ohm ones

[@BenWidmer]

This is excellent!! Thank you for providing this insight - This is what youtube is all about...for me anyway : ) Subbed/Liked...and headed out to purchase some 880s ...

[@CustomCans]

Thanks ;)

[@travisgillespie2819]

Very helpful, thanks for sharing 👍

[@husamalden2897]

I've the dt 880 600 ohm edition and I'm interested to see the differences inside the drivers compared to the other variants

[@CustomCans]

They all look pretty much the same. They have different windings on the voice coils but you can't really show that on a video without destroying them

[@MrZdrojek]

Can you also disassemble anytime soon these new 700x and 900x and compare to these old 3 models? :)

[@CustomCans]

I have videos dismantling the 700X and 900X on their own

[@MonkeyDLuffy-cq2lo]

for 880pro, does the cable has a pungent bad smell? it seems to be made from some poorly recycled material.

[@CustomCans]

I have not noticed the cables smelling when new but I do have over 100 pairs in the office so I may be blind to it

[@Terra101]

Interesting. So I could put a DT 770 driver in the DT 990 if I just remove the tuning stuff and it would be like nothings happened?

[@CustomCans]

Pretty much... every driver is slightly different and beyerdynamic pair up similar ones

[@Terra101]

Is the DT 990 drivers matched? I thought it was only in the DT 1990, because the latter you can only buy in matched pairs, where on the DT 990 you can buy them separately.@@CustomCans

[@Terra101]

@@CustomCans Randomly found this comment again. According to Beyerdynamic all of their drivers are within 1dB variance and therefore they don't need to match them.

[@alexbarquin9]

Bought the DT880 600ohms after watching your vid. Thanks for the thorough in-depth view of the headphone inerts.

[@CustomCans]

No problem ;)

[@phillipnunya6793]

Strange that Beyerdynamic has not bothered redesigning the cups of the 770 and the 990 for better sound. I doubt it would cost them much to do, if anything at all. The cups on those could be designed better in my opinion, even at the price.

[@CustomCans]

Yes - it is probably partially a business decision. They have the new Pro X range at around £200 with a nicer design and the 770 and 990 have become legends in the studio so they don't want to mess with them too much.

[@RabbitConfirmed]

they're called the DT 700 and DT 900

[@phillipnunya6793]

@@RabbitConfirmed They didn't change much other than a new module and slightly different driver. Not much in the way of baffling or resonance traps.

[@RabbitConfirmed]

@@phillipnunya6793 I would disagree, I've both the DT 770 and DT 700 and I think the DT 700 is quite a bit more balanced. Im using it as my daily driver atm.

[@phillipnunya6793]

@@RabbitConfirmed You disagree with what? They did not add baffling or resonance traps. The changed the driver and slightly changed the dampening.

[@gnif]

I'd love to see the internals of the DT-770M

[@CustomCans]

Yes, they are a bit different - they have extra foam inside

[@J-Hell]

Thank you very much for this comparison. I was very interested in how the design and advertising differed. I've never owned a pair of high quality headphones. I would be really interested in your opinion about how much the impedance difference within the same model of headphone changes the listening experience. (I see 25, 80, 250 and 600 ohm versions advertised.)

[@CustomCans]

It is difficult as they all sound different but in general - on the same model, the higher impedance ones like the 250 and 600 have more control and tighter bass but need to be run from an amplifier to get the best out of them. The lower impedance ones seem to have boomier bass but can run off most equipment like phones and laptops without any majour issue - the 80ohm is a good compromise

[@J-Hell]

@@CustomCans Thank you. That is really helpful :)

[@dfcx1]

The different impedance models exist so they are compatible with a wider range of source devices. If there was one "best" impedance, all headphones would just use that! You want to optimize for two things, damping factor (affects sound quality) and volume. Damping factor is the ratio of headphone impedance and source output impedance and the general rule of thumb is that you want this to be 8 or higher. For maximum volume the ideal load impedance varies by source device but for a voltage limited amplifier the lower the headphone impedance the more power it can pull out of the amplifier. Something like the iPhone headphone adapter will have a very low output impedance of below 1 ohm but not a lot of voltage so the 32 ohm edition would be your best option. The Google Pixel v2 dongle has the same voltage but an output impedance just under 8 ohm so to get the damping factor below 8 you need the 80 ohm edition. My Behringer UMC202HD has an output impedance of a bit over 10 ohms but plenty of power so plugged into that the 250 ohm versions would deliver better sound quality. 600 ohms is so exotically high that most outputs specifically designed for headphones might not deliver enough power into it, but for sources that have higher output impedance and have voltage to spare it might work best. I haven't tried them but I suspect the hype behind the 600 ohm model stems from some people comparing those to a lower impedance model on a high output impedance source, correctly noticing that it sounds better. This isn't necessarily the case with all sources!

[@michbest]

Very good. Thank you!

[@CustomCans]

Our pleasure!

[@frantotti9754]

Could you please make a video on beyerdynamic fox usb microphone ? it looks very nice on camera.

[@CustomCans]

I will try to - I am pretty booked up with stuff until Jan so won't be shooting may videos and I have a few more in the queue to be filmed but I will try to squeeze it in ;)

[@OKRAinu]

Nice video! Absolutely worth to watch. Thank you!

[@CustomCans]

Glad it was helpful!

[@kenmcf]

I just bought an 880...just wanted middle of the road and more comfort...I am shocked the difference is just some difference in size in a felt hole or something...its like how many cambell soups can you get on the shelf.

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

the are very different actually

[@rockyproduction8979]

Hi dude! Ur guide is really helpful, but I got a question I need headphones for mixing mastering listening to music and gaming. I want open or semi open headphones. Which one will be better? DT990 Pro or Edition? or DT 880 Pro / Edition? And how much Ohm's? please answer and help me. Thanks for help

[@CustomCans]

I would say the DT880 ( either version ) in 250 ohm and a headphone amp to drive them

[@CustomCans]

or the new DT900 Pro X - those don't need an amp

[@october65-h6e]

@@CustomCans Or the 880 with 32 ohm or the TYGR 300 R(32 ohm).

[@AnzaSengani]

Thank you bro, very helpful. I'm wondering, what are the sizes of the drivers? Are they really 45mm?

[@CustomCans]

They are around 53mm

[@FrankTenorio09]

Thanks for the breakdown!! =]

[@CustomCans]

Glad it was useful

[@stam7250]

This was very nice and useful! I'm looking into the 880 and I think I should get it. Is the 32ohm version ok for me If I don't buy an amp straight away and just plug it into my PC/phone/gaming console?

[@CustomCans]

I have not listened to the 32ohm version but yes, you should be able to run them without an amp

[@october65-h6e]

I have the 32 ohm 880 Edition pluged directly into my Lenovo Yoga C 740 notebook and I LOVE them. Mostly listening classical and soundtracks. Volume is mostly on 46/50. That was also the reason for me why I took the 32ohm. I didn't want to buy an additional amp.

[@Nogardtist]

can a gayming laptop run DT 770 pro 80 ohms or im better off getting DT 880 32 ohms the price is almost the same probably a discount

[@CustomCans]

Yes the 80ohm ones should be fine from most devices

[@D.2023]

@@CustomCans I game on DT 880 pro 600 ohms no problem! 60-70% of volume is the sweet spot of loudness. Gaming motherboards are normally supporting higher ohms. I casually used em on Nokia 6.1 - at max loudness pretty nice ASMR too! Use with Ipad pro 2017 12 inch, no volume problems at all. I just don't know can the 600 ohm headset be "underdrived" while being loud on a non-pro-amped device? Dunno, i tried external soundcard that supported up to 600 ohms and i dont think the difference was noticable :).. Probably preamps are gimmicks

[@significantshades9294]

your 880s were more expensive because they are the premium edition. Otherwise they are the same price if they were the pros.

[@CustomCans]

Ah, it may be an international thing, here in the UK the 880 pros are more expensive than the 770 and 990 at the moment.

[@electron7373]

Great work! Thanks for going to all that trouble to let us peek inside these sweet cans.

[@CustomCans]

No Problem

[@rajkumars6086]

Amazing deconstruction. Felt like walking into the Audio Sphinx with an expert explorer :)

[@CustomCans]

Glad you enjoyed the headphone archaeology ;)

[@rajkumars6086]

@@CustomCans Please keep doing these fascinating demystifications ! Thanks for taking time to reply :)

[@BabaChiro]

Thank you very much! great review. short but detailed. maybe not a full comperison because there was no actuall sound testing. but the teardown was absolutely great!

[@CustomCans]

Yeh - I thought there were enough videos of people comparing the sound already already. I am not the best at describing sound but am pretty good a product design ;)

[@significantshades9294]

Actually my question is the difference between the pro and premium editions. I find in the 990s there is a BIG difference (both 250 versions), as the premiums are way brighter.

[@CustomCans]

We don't deal with the 990 premium much but they do have a different earcup with different size holes which will effect the airflow but if we get any more come in I will do a proper comparrison

[@sapinit4322]

Thanks, great review for my decision process!

[@CustomCans]

Glad it was helpful!

[@keineahnunglol2]

WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MANYYYYY

[@CustomCans]

we modify them and sell them all over the world

[@johnsmythe4956]

That was interesting thx

[@AlOne-xg6dv]

Clear and interesting. Thank you. 880 are appealing. I own the 770 pro and like them. They just lack some space and openness.

[@markrichmond6860]

Thanks for a very entertaining video

[@CustomCans]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@NotOrdinaryInGames]

You went further than most people. Too bad you did not include a measurement.

[@CustomCans]

I thought I would leave that to the people with much more expensive test rigs than ours ;)

[@redace4821]

Very interesting and instructional, do you think for general gaming (triple A title and eSport title as such), the 880 or 990 would be better, my biggest concern with the 990 is that because it's open back some sound might bleed into the microphone whereas 880 there's won't be as much leakage. I already decided to get the 770 as well for phone compatibility and other things like recording, monitoring. And I basically want another one to hear the music from different perspective and am debating between 880 and 990. Thanks

[@CustomCans]

I am not a gamer really - I know a lot of people use 990s for gaming but I would definatley find some forum posts from Pros using them and their oppinion

[@g.fortin3228]

On the DT800 I would like to know the sound difference between the 80 and 250 ohm models.. bass / mids / details ? in a nutshell , listening on home amp or PC with external USB DAC would one be preferred over the other ?

[@october65-h6e]

Only the DT 770 is available with 80 ohms. The 880 with 32/250/600 ohms.

[@aviinuo2694]

Interesting stuff. Still can decide between dt 770 880 990 1770 1990 for over a month now, 1990 are 370 on amazon in the uk atm so maybe ill just get those, but im not sure if its worth the money for everyday use with a little bit of music listening and gaming.

[@CustomCans]

The 1990 are pretty amazing - I have just been listening to them vs the 880 - the 1990 have incredible detail in the bass and sub bass and just have a lot more impact than the 880 but the 8khz peak can be a bit harsh on some tracks

[@aviinuo2694]

@@CustomCans Im not too worried about the peak as I have dekoni hybrid pads that should tame it. My main concern is that I wont hear the difference on spotify or youtube which is where I listen to all my music, I was hoping the additional impact in the bass of the dt 1990 would still come through on lower quality audio files.

[@CustomCans]

Yeh - you would still hear that additional bass weight and sub bass you get from the 1990s and I suspect the quality you get from youtube will probably increase over the coming years

[@steamstories1279]

If planning to use DT1990 for CSGO, I don't advise it. SHP9500 with EQ are MUCH MUCH better. I own both. The footsteps and the position of footsteps is much better on SHP9500. The connection feel with the game is very bad with DT1990. I cannot comment on other FPS games. Impression from a guy with 8000 hours in CSGO, 1100 matches on faceit. HD800 is even worse than DT1990 for CSGO.

[@aviinuo2694]

@@steamstories1279 I dont really play much competetive games anymore, if I do its probably r6/eft. But in my experience the biggest issue with hearing in games is the audio engines bugging out due to network lag.

[@MarijkeWillemsen990]

Great video, thanks!

[@CustomCans]

Glad you liked it!

[@IarukaSkYouk]

nice vid dude

[@CustomCans]

Thanks!

[@NormSpupsEntertainment]

WOW, awesome video. love your channel guys great to get videos made by real experts in their field!!

[@CustomCans]

Thanks - Glad to see people are enjoying this kind of super nerdy content :)

[@ImpactSpace]

Nice video!! can you do the same treble damping mod (with toilet paper) on the 770 or 990 like on the 880? The black foam covering the drivers look identical on all of them, so I guess yes. If I want a 880 with more bass but no more treble, I could buy the 990 and do the paper mod for that (as idea)…

[@CustomCans]

I don't know for certain but probably .... Give it a go. I have just dismantked the Beyerdynamic Tygr and they have a thicker foam disk in front of the driver to reduce the treble... But.... From experience things like that often have unexpected effects elsewhere in the frequency range so there is a lot of trial and error until you find the result you want

[@sebtaylor69]

Which of these do you think are better for listening to dance music? Trance and house mainly.

[@CustomCans]

I reckon the 770 80ohm

[@sebtaylor69]

@@CustomCans brilliant thank you. I will drive them with an amp, would it be worth looking at the 250ohm versions? Which of your modded headphones would you recommend?

[@astralnova2000]

Wanted to ask the same question 🙂 ...so did you get the 770 and how are you satisfied listening to electronic music with them!? 😉

[@sebtaylor69]

@@astralnova2000 I ended up going with the 700 pro x. They are a good headphone, Very comfortable for long listening. I think they are a little bit bright and I do find sometimes the bass can be a little bit muddy but that is just me being really critical of them.

[@Mr.Deeds.]

How about the DT990 premium? Are they the same as the DT990 pro?

[@CustomCans]

Very similar from what I remember but it has been a while since I had some apart

[@btc-nightmare]

niceee 👍

[@CustomCans]

Thanks ✌️

[@btc-nightmare]

@@CustomCans hi i have a Question can i postet here? i thing i have postet it in other video from you but i thing the are older and you havent reat it. sry for my bad englisch

[@CustomCans]

@@btc-nightmare yes, what did you want to know?

[@frozenvodka]

I don t know why, but i feel pain seing you doing this 😂

[@CustomCans]

We probably dismantle tens of thousands of pounds worth of headphones each month .... You get used to it

[@frozenvodka]

@@CustomCans yes I guess, don't worry I wasn't saying you were doing it wrong, just that it hurt me to see it xD

[@jwester7009]

Really interesting. I own an old pair of DT770 pro (250ohm) from 2002. Since they are falling apart I just bought a new pair. My gosh they sound bright with a laid back midrange compared to. If it doesn't change over time I'm going to swap the drivers from old ones with these. I also used to own a pair of DT880 pro. I did not like the sound of those. So I sold them again

[@CustomCans]

The sound does change a little as the diaphragm loosens up a bit

[@jwester7009]

@@CustomCans Thanks for your answer. My old ones are from 2002. I think they've changed the drivers since then. On my new 770's I need to turn down the treble about 3dB at around 8kHz to mimic how the old ones sound. But I can easily switch the drivers so I get the sound I like

[@jwester7009]

@@CustomCans Actually I've been listening some more. One other huge difference is the mid range. The new 770 has a v-shape sound and the old ones are much more open and dynamic sounding. So my guess is that the old drivers were made in Germany and now we get a cheaper version driver produced in China. And that's how they keep the price down

[@CertifiedSunset]

I own a pair of DT880 Pro's liek shown in this video. They were a bit too bright for my taste initially, so I went into my PC's audio control and cranked up the artificial bass boost. They are much more pleasant to listen with after doing that. I love these so much that I'm considering on buying a new pair since this one is going out on me unless I can fix the cable.

[@Priyaam]

🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@A_wolfcalledCherry]

thank you :)

[@CustomCans]

No problem 😊

[@votten9238]

Thank you for this ! Maybe in the furture you could do the 1990s/1770s/T1/T5 😁😁

[@CustomCans]

The 1990 ans 1770 are pretty similar just one semi open and one closed, the same for the T1 and T5. What I may do is a 990 vs 1990 vs T1 to see what you get as you go up the range