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[@PhthaloGreenskin]

A dark Eldar Hamonculus was on Terra to try to fix the golden Throne. He was OVERWHELMED by the amount of suffering on terra. The Dark Eldar mad Scientist was overwhelmed by the suffering on terra. That's like when Charlie Sheen comes up to you and says "listen, you're doing to many drugs".

[@maddoc1366]

Or, to make a 40k analogy, it's like Slaanesh saying " Dude, don't do that. You're going too far, you need help. "😯

[@avid4810]

😂😂😂

[@John.Doe.272]

This is Terra.

[@PopCultureCat]

Madness? This! Is! Terra!

[@titanomachy2217]

Why would a Dark Eldar, let alone a Haemonculus, want to help the Imperium fix the Golden Throne? Also that doesn't really make sense, I can't imagine Commoragh having less suffering in it than Terra, I mean it is massive and utterly filled to the brim with psychos torturing people in the most horrific ways imaginable. I think sometimes the writers just suck at consistent worldbuilding.

[@mdforbes500]

Joe has a window... his wife is crazy for leaving him

[@TheOneTrueD]

The ganger she ran off with had TWO windows

[@JiresHacob]

Bro I didn't even have a window for the first five years of my adult life on EARTH 38,000 years sooner when people still had some rights because I rented a basement. But Joe does. Lucky fucker.

[@stuckinaloop6637]

She got tired of him spending all his time playing some tabletop game called Battlespork 2024.

[@indiomoustafa2047]

​​@@stuckinaloop6637 Actually he was playing Hamwarmer 80,000

[@adrianj2666]

He wasn't rich enough to play the original game originating from the forgeworld called G.Workshop so he played a knock-off version called Spacemace 69 using heretic technology; non ad-mech approved 3d printed models invented by an outlawed imperial commisar Gamza. He was hunted by the Forgeworld's merciless group of enforcers called the Legal Defense Team.

[@JHattsy]

"we're gonna describe a hab unit!" describes a 1 bedroom apartment in California / New York. 40k ain't so far away...

[@huntercoleherr]

Korea and Tokyo are already there.

[@eimhingalvin8864]

I was going to say, the comparison too the Soviet Union and China is abit poor like at least the soviet's had green space around buildings lol

[@cyberpunk-2O77]

40k is the monthly rent

[@dirtynessenjoyer]

@@huntercoleherr ain't gonna mention China or Hindustan?

[@FedkaSlovanich]

@@eimhingalvin8864That was only in certain parts were government officials were or were Western diplomats traveled through, like the reagan parks.

[@kolsfug3148]

My favorite description of being an Imperial Citizen was something along the lines of "Not having any sort of badge of office, gang-symbol or other sign of ownership on your person is a death-sentence. Everyone NEEEDS to belong to something or someone, because being alone means people can do whatever they want with you without fear of retaliation or even investigation." Great personal narrative, and makes it easy to see why a lot of people would sell their souls just for the chance of escaping to something better or just 'different'!

[@toi_techno]

Sounds like how I imagine Ruzzia

[@ravanpee1325]

That's basically everywhere the same

[@NautilusSSN571]

Brazil

[@generaldelasmontanas2699]

@@toi_techno United Jewish States of America*

[@jbark678]

What's that from?

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

can't imagine this is what emperor ever wanted for humanity

[@AKUJIVALDO]

Neither he expected to be half dead on life support, while being a lighthouse, gatekeeper and an Imperial Garlic to Chaos Satans.

[@kogorun]

I bet that's what he wanted either way. It doesn't matter to him in what condition humanity exists so long as it does, and so long as it keeps being warp-free.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

@@kogorun that would imply he be ok with space marines ruling over humanity which wasn't the case, he wanted humanity to be self functioning atheists in order to combat any xeno and chaos horde

[@terranaxiomuk]

It isn't. He abolished religion and united humanity. The imperium is everything he hated.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

@@terranaxiomuk well it's not like the current situation is not without proper justification, they are now at constant war and can't use stuff like AI cause of chaos

[@antonyhart6757]

Look at Mr Fancy Pants with his nutrient sticks and window

[@mantisracingchannel3910]

Man’s living life, I can respect that…

[@Peter2k84]

Still was not enough to keep a woman.

[@bickboose9364]

@@Peter2k84 Nothing ever is. 😔

[@alexalexander1772]

His hobbies. I’d like to think he’s painting miniature social workers and counselors for some crazy table top social engineering game.

[@Squig96]

Or hes painting miniatures of a fictive universe in the year 80000 which is even more grim dark than his own to have a sence of "well at least its not that bad"

[@Goldsrc17]

He paints miniature townsfolk for the hit tabletop game peacehammer

[@TaylorfromPapaLouie]

bold of you to assume he has one. or even know what a hobby is

[@sana.0451]

@@Goldsrc17 living the HIGHEST fantasy of living in a shire-esque paradise going to parties and frolicking around in nature. His favourite character is his 65 year old retired gardener .

[@KrautGoesWild]

Ciaphas Cain and a pre-Heresy Horus are the only people I ever saw smile in WH40K artwork.

[@palestinalibre4]

There are evil demons and monsters that appear smiling. But yeah, no humans.

[@maestromike8694]

Orks are having a good time.

[@KrautGoesWild]

@@maestromike8694 Cuz hoomies furgot to smoil? Gud thin-kun ✌😎!

[@alastor8091]

Nurgle's gang is full of smiles, care for a quick sermon?

[@nickcher7071]

To be fair, Cain books feature different Imperial worlds where life can be genuinely decent, even quite nice. At least, when they are not being actively invaded by somebody ofc. Perlia for example seemed as a pretty chill place to live, when there are no orks around

[@theodoreslavo5385]

No wonder joining the PDF just to get a shot at joining the Imperial Guard is seen as such a glorious thing. Better rations, medical care, pay, and they also give you a lasgun. What more could an Imperial citizen wish for.

[@cyberleaderandy1]

Its interesting listening to the characters comments in Darktide about rations and such that the Inquisition is seen as a step up from the guards. Even their basic accomodation and potential to survive is seen as better than what they got previously.

[@toobig7150]

​@@cyberleaderandy1 Also that the mechanicum rations are more filling but taste horrible, and that's somehow so telling with so little info

[@KingLich451]

​@@toobig7150mechanicum aint here to please your weak fleshlings

[@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong]

also gives context to why so many humans join the T'au. I don't care how xenophobic you are, getting THAT much free shit is hard to pass up.

[@Knights_Oath]

The best case of this is the Mordian Iron Guard. They and their family do not have to work the mines and get guaranteed food rations. It's an awful world even by Imperium standards and self end is the leading cause of death.

[@forthrightgambitia1032]

It's worth remembering that when GW were designing 40k in the late 80s, Kowloon Walled City was somewhat well know in the UK (Hong Kong still being under British control). Along with other sources of inspiration I do think that this was one of the big things that fed into Necromunda - even down to how the Hong Kong of the time and especially Kowloon were under triad control when game that we now know as proto-Necromunda, Confrontation, was being developed (released in 1990).

[@0ff868]

yeah, the chance GW knew about Kowloon at that time is pretty high, considering it was featured in many cyberpunk media of the 80's and 90's funny thing about Kowloon, when it eventually got dismantled, it's former residents complained about being relocated, apparently they liked that place very much

[@MauseDays]

Kowloon ishe baiss of much of the genre so 100%

[@maxwellsimon4538]

@@0ff868 Nobody likes being uprooted from the place they call home, no matter how bad it may seem. There was a lot of camaraderie among neighbors, since you lived so tightly together, so the whole place had several thousand close knit communities that sprawled the city. Really the worst parts about the city was that the inner areas were pretty poorly ventilated, so air was stagnant and polluted, and that the whole place was a cobbled together mess of pipes and wires ready to explode on the first structural collapse. Kowloon was torn down because it was unsafe, not inhumane. It really was one of the most fascinating places on earth.

[@Monolith308]

At least the Skaven have social mobility

[@jabloko992]

legit bro, omg what a thought. Imagine living worse than the Skaven.

[@ZrrMe]

Oh? You want Skaven social mobility? * Hangs a bell up over your house and rings it 13 times *

[@kiravatheargonian]

Granted your back is gonna look like Julius Caesar’s everywhere but you’re correct 😂

[@kiravatheargonian]

@@jabloko992if you wanna be technical, the IoM _is_ the 40k Skaven

[@starfuryduck3446]

Skaven aren't real, they don't exist 🐀🐀🐀

[@jorikrouwenhorst7220]

I’m imagining that as we follow Joe throughout his day you’ll hear context clues in the background. Walking through the red light district Joe gets an offer by a “Lady of the night” for some company, underneath her collar we can make out a mark of Slaanesh. When Joe gets his protein slab and nutrition sticks you hear in the background that the composition of ingredients has steadily been changing and how the protein slab tastes different. In his apartment building people talk about worsening damage and about how this block maybe also will collapse or crash into the factory underneath it. When Joe is home and crawls into his bed and looks at the picture of his wife the camera zooms out as Joe curls up, we either have a silent fade to black or have a single quiet sob from Joe. Post credit scene two/three decades later we see Joe again, he looks even worse then before and we follow him home again. We hear different things, about how rumours of war in the lower hive, a hussed discussion about a strange ship. When Joe’s home and curls up his noticeably more worn bed he hear a commotion, as he looks up sleep still in his eyes his door burst open, heavily armed men grab him and push him roughly onto the hallway floor and a needle is injected into him, screaming of other people being handled the same way echo throughout the building. Joe wakes an unknown amount of time later in a darkroom, bound to a chair, in front of him an agent of the inquisition, in his hand he holds a datapad with footage of Joe. The inquisition agent says “Did you think we wouldn’t catch onto you! Traitor!” The footage consists of Joe’s collisions with servitors he had over the years and mistakes during his work. Next to the footage we can read the damages his actions has caused to the imperium.

[@rottingcorpse1990]

In Darktide, you can see the living conditions of the general populace in the mission Hab Dreyko. They live inside hab blocks that are made of lots of apartments that contain shared living space with bunk beds. Also at the beginning of the mission Power Matrix HL-17-36, the characters comment about the horrible conditions of the workers in the manufactorum which are even worse than in hab blocks. You can see stuff like blankets, pillows, clothes and sleeping bags randomly spread in areas that look like small locker rooms, right next to enormous factory rooms that contain massive machinery and scorching heat of Metalfab 36.

[@xili0966]

Me watching this video in my studio apartment after a dinner of fried spam: "Warhammer 40K is so dystopian!"

[@dystopianchimp]

J...Joe? Is that you?

[@jonathanchow993]

I can imagine it to be like living in a massive prison block especially on the worker levels where people there have no hope of ascending their position

[@dystopianchimp]

Yeah I don't think you are far off

[@cyberleaderandy1]

​@@dystopianchimp joining the Guard is a way out, possibly a deadly one though and for those in Darktide who made it to the Inquisition thats seen as a massive step up in status as they now mock many of the guards they pass on missions.

[@rattled6732]

Still better than Detroit

[@Jasonsminiadventure]

Or Chicago.

[@oldbucket2421]

Haha!

[@UltraRaditzStane]

And Philly

[@NooAcademy]

And Ohio

[@GuynamedSk0mz]

At least it's better than the O-block

[@Knights_Oath]

There is a reason people will stand in a que for most of their lives so that one of their great grand children can become a menial scribe in the Administratum. The Guard is a privilege to most in the Imperium, they feed you at least. Even if the average life span of a Guardsmen in combat is 15 hours.

[@siluda9255]

Tbh if life like this i rather go die to some alien/demon than live there, at least i get a cool death

[@vylbird8014]

Good promotion prospects though. Survive your first battle and you get to be an officer.

[@Alex-xt1rr]

The 15 hours stuff was in one very specific combat operation and is not the average across the whole Astra Militarium.

[@conscript900]

@@Alex-xt1rr (Damn good novel though)

[@thatflyingsaucer9340]

It was 5 hours, not 15.

[@N7-WAR-HOUND]

Consider there’s a decent chance if you get dropped on a random planet in 40K you may not realize your in 40K for a very long time

[@teeheeteeheeish]

I feel like having a door and some privacy is almost too luxurious. I'd expect crude bunks in an open bay lol.

[@MrPaPaYa86]

Well Joe can be considered a member of the elite to some extent. Maybe event a 1%er, considering hive cities host hundreds of billions

[@Firguy]

I think a lot of people in 40k wouldn't even have carpet to sleep on. They'd get used to sleeping on hard steel and concrete from an early age.

[@vylbird8014]

The video did say that our protagonist is in the middle class, with a stable government job.

[@WarpsmithDoviculus]

After years of lurking in the 40k lore side of KZbin, I have never seen a better video about the average life of a regular citizen. The production is good, the music soothing but yet captivating. Your voice kept me concentrated on both your dialogue and my miniatures. I absolutely love your content. I will watch your career with great interests. A personal recommendation of mine would be a video on traitor guardsmen. Their fall, their life, notable group in the lore, etc.

[@soccerandtrack10]

They just got some toys. Theres still no "army" for chaos inperial gaurd though.

[@dystopianchimp]

My thanks Warpsmith! Glad you liked the video and love your suggestion - would definitely be an interesting perspective

[@irishmoney4291]

​@@soccerandtrack10 I'm going to assume that you never heard of the blood pack or sons of sekt

[@lazylazymule]

Lives of the average citizen is something we really don't get enough of in 40K!!!

[@valance10]

Wish they'd do more stories from the perspective of average imperial citizens rather than space marines

[@TheLazyFinn]

@@valance10 Well there are a ton of IG and Inquisition books too

[@danpaz9485]

Considering that its either a theocratic hyper-capitalist state or a ultra-religious fascist state, I wouldn't be surprised, heck I've heard more stories of the fighting plus with some campaigns I've done years ago than the average live of citizens, where they live, their general health, etc.

[@TheLazyFinn]

@@danpaz9485 Eisenhorn for example shows what civilian life is like, at least partly

[@haggleman3232]

I'm glad the model hive city was based off the ancient forgotten metropolis known as Los Angeles.

[@cyberleaderandy1]

A lot like Mega City 1 in Dredd, minus the Judges.

[@Ner0sys7]

You know 40k as a whole is a satire of conservative capitalism and fascist nationalism, right?

[@TrinityShoji]

​@@Ner0sys7and you understand that the US is a conservative, capitalist hellscape? Just one political party wears a liberalist cape and the other a fascist one.

[@danielmartin531]

​@@Ner0sys7 add in hard-line Stalinist communism somehow and the picture is complete. Bleak af

[@gordonstevens9074]

@@Ner0sys7 It's hard to think of any part of 40k caused by capitalist private industry. Most events and conditions are the direct result of command economy.

[@XSilver_WaterX]

Now explaining both the Chaos and Dark Eldar living arrangements; if one is to SURVIVE in some measure of piece. For Chaos, food is PERSONALLLY made for the Death Guard and World Eaters so any mortal to consume said food will...experience inappropriate bowel movement to say lightly. Living in your hab-block where the literal ceiling wants to crush you, windows showing all sorts of horrors even without LOOKING, utility failure happening every minute and forcing you to pay for maintenance, your neighbors sending IEDs and horror mail, oh and let's not forget your landlord is secretly the Demon Govenor over the Demon Planet who is planning your demise! For Dark Eldar...Emperor save me as a sinner; one of the least bad facts of being their "toy" is having a "warm" bed and possibility you may give birth to a half-breed. Regardless of gender. Oh, and the fetus is psychically aware its growing inside you and CHOOSING which END to come out.

[@vylbird8014]

Those who serve chaos at least get to have some fun and spend their time doing what they love. Nurgle might be the only faction leader to really care about the happiness and well-being of his followers.

[@thedungeondelver]

@@vylbird8014 I think Slannesh probably does too, as the sensations and passions of its followers give it greater power, and it wants to make sure that cycle keeps going. Note that's probably, not definitely.

[@vylbird8014]

@@thedungeondelver Maybe, but Slannesh is also so demanding. Always expects more, more, more. Never a chance to just relax, you can't even properly enjoy the party if you are already wondering how you will top this with an even bigger one, and there are consequences for failing to impress. But Nurgle? Much more laid back.

[@ccharboneau344]

Yeah, but with Chaos it's practically expected that you'll: kill people for annoying you, stuff the ceiling poltergeist into a battery, ALSO send IEDs or possessed mail to people, scheme to make everyone hate the Demon Governor so you can take his place, get used to the horrors to where you don't care anymore, get implants so you get high off seeing all of this, etc... Chaos is life with all the safety checks switched off, and a hundred more options to put them in yourself; you're doing it wrong if you expect other people to provide safety under Chaos; in fact, it'll reward you for coming up with a solution yourself/making Chaos serve you and not the other way around.

[@RebelInTheF.D.G]

Sounds like working 3rd shift at a Dennys.

[@filanfyretracker]

I don't know what an overnight at Dennys is like but I suspect even Chaos would know better than to mess with the third shift of a Waffle House.

[@beanieb0b]

In a short story King of Pigs, the main character is just a factory worker, but he has his own apartment with a bathroom and closet (I picture it like V's apartment from 2077) and, I'm not gonna say there's no planets in the imperium where the homes are that bad, hell there's probably thousands just like that, but I feel like a larger percent of the Hive worlds are more like that. Of course the main character literally has to paddle through a river of blood to get to work every morning, so maybe it is all just terrible forever.

[@Derekthetau]

Wow, I just assumed this was a bigger channel. Nicely done. I look forward to more of your work!

[@sammule83]

Backhanded compliment, nice 😅

[@dystopianchimp]

Thank you! ❤ More vids on the way

[@leonmumford179]

In 41st millennium, no one cares if you scream.

[@pyroparagon8945]

One of my favorite parts of WH40 Space Marine on the ps3 were the tapes of imperial citizens talking before the orc attack, and trying to stay together and stay alive during it. You also walk through living quarters in a lot of areas.

[@deathangel7335]

I would think there would probably be some dispensation for extra space or other amenities if you have at least two kids; this would be a thing the Impirium would want to encourage as they always need more meat for war machine. Front line or factories.

[@dystopianchimp]

Interesting point - unless the administration is concerned about overpopulation in the hive? Probs a bit of a balancing act and would likely depend on the hive and / or planet

[@gasmonkey1000]

Id imagine that a considerable portion wouldn't even get the "coffin apartments" you see in Hong Kong. Arch mentioned there being massive dorms and i remember in the Krieg story "Left For Dead" that such dorms are employed. And from the dialogue it sounds like these are far from uncommon. So yeah, you'd get back from work, and you cant even get some privacy. Your most private is your cot, maybe a container to hold personal shit, and what you carry. And Emperor help you if there's an old couple or kids, cause then you are getting no sleep. Granted id imagine if you're married they'd let you and the missus have a room after getting proper documentation so you can "make more little soldiers for the Emperor" in relative private.

[@pentacosttb2565]

The thing about the average is numbers. While hive worlds aren’t anywhere near numerous enough to be what the average 40K world looks like, the sheer number of people living on them absolutely tips the scales in their favour. The ‘average’ world of the imperium would be a civilised or Agri world. So likely not too bad unless you get invaded or a chaos/genestealer cult takes root.

[@dystopianchimp]

Yeah exactly - pure population density alone forces us to consider life in hives as 'average' even though hive worlds themselves are actually quite uncommon in the grand scheme of things

[@vylbird8014]

Even the Agri-worlds are hardly comfortable. They aren't made to be sustainable - the level of chemical enhancement needed to maximise yield renders the planet toxic to most animal life, including humans, and work hours are just as long as anywhere else. Less crowded, at least. The world is too toxic to use after a few centuries, but that's ok - it's more practical to just terraform a new one. Sustainable farming just can't produce the yields required.

[@FarremShamist]

@@dystopianchimp Yeah, I'm happy you actually took into account that the population of hiveworlds are just so vast that it IS the average for Imperial living situations. Most of the time people go into weird "Imperial Apologetics" and go for the average world type instead just because it doesn't make the Imperium look all that bad. Heck, I know we've all seen people use as "examples on why the Imperium isn't so bad to live in!!1!" Honestly, I think there's a possibility another hab type for hivers wasn't mentioned though, and that's the communal capsule type, where it's effectively just a sealed off bed in the wall that has the barest amount of room. Though places like that are probably on-site habitation, and may not be the actual average. It's hard to say though.

[@doomguy9049]

​@@FarremShamist The unimaginable wealth and luxury of bigshots like planetary governors, inquisitors, etc would skew the average quality of life back in the opposite direction too though, making it seem not as impoverished and dire as it is for a majority of people.

[@FarremShamist]

@@doomguy9049 I mean, if you include the unimaginably wealthy in the census, they're going to skew something if you give too much weight on them. More likely, it's not going to affect the slide at all. It would barely even nudge it, with how many people live just worse lives.

[@retnuhretnuh]

I would love a video covering "The Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer"

[@dystopianchimp]

Great idea - I think GrimDark Narrator might have already done a series on that but will still give it a think

[@terranaxiomuk]

I have the damocles gulf edition of that in mint condition.

[@randomguy2809]

I'm most curious about what the equivalent of a middle manager is like in 40k. Not the super rich, but what is it like to make the equivalent of say 100k or 200k in the 40k universe (adjusted for inflation, obviously) that person is moderately successful, the kind who should be able to support a family and have a decently materialistic life.

[@KalashVodka175]

Warhammer crime story describes the life amenities of local police detectives (not arbites) who might fit the bill. Basically they’ve got apartment, assigned cars and live in relatively safe part of town.

[@randomguy2809]

@KalashVodka175 yeah I was wondering if there was anything like upper middle class in 40k. Like how does that guy's boss's boss's boss live?

[@ccharboneau344]

Rogue Traders if they're still canon? There's a whole caste of people LARPing Star Trek in 40k, so the Imperium has a gray area between it and aliens/mutants/whatever.

[@KalashVodka175]

@@ccharboneau344 RT aren’t a middle class they are ruling elite, the ultra wealthy

[@totalpartykill999]

i am just wondering what sort of fever dream Rick Priestly had in order to come up with this all those years ago.

[@andresr.viguera9791]

I guess he was in 80s Hong Kong and got inspired

[@dominicmassa5492]

I'm of the opinion that over time, more authors have mad e the world increasingly grim and derpy.

[@generaldelasmontanas2699]

@@dominicmassa5492 kowloon is apparently grimderp

[@terranaxiomuk]

I wouldn't be surprised if the 2000AD comics had some influence. He just took it further.

[@adc1222]

As much as space marines are the poster children of 40k, one of my favourite things is just seeing how average people cope in the awful universe. More stuff like this would be lovely! The Bloodlines book is a great example of more down to earth 40k stuff

[@thedungeondelver]

Consider: 99.9999999% of Imperial Citizens will never ever *see* a Space Marine. If they're lucky.

[@callhunter34]

What would I do after a 16 hour shift in a hive world? Same thing I do for a 12 hour in this world. Feed my cat, Smoke weed, and pass tf out? No time to eat or cook sounds like the same thing here. The smoke helps get past the uncertainty and troubling times. Wait sorry I forgot we were talking about 40k

[@laurisjones]

More Joe Imperium! This was better than most actual 40k fiction.

[@gigachadgaming1551]

All he needs is some galvanized square steel, eco-friendly wood veneers, and screws borrowed from his aunt

[@bluedotdinosaur]

IIRC, as 40k's fiction has grown over time, the hive cities have been framed like this: originally they were very different during the golden age of humanity. The hives were supported by technology that has long since failed and been removed, replaced with far cruder machinery to keep them barely livable. Originally, the hives were arcologies that were clean and healthy. The purpose was to avoid humanity paving over entire worlds and destroying their ecologies, by keeping most humans living in central locations. Advanced technology and engineering was used to make the cities pleasant. One might imagine even if the average person had a small apartment it was mainly a sleeping room, and most time was spent out and around the mega city. In vast parks, libraries, arcades, and universities. Remember at the height, most labor and manufacturing was performed by "men of iron" or AI servitors. The problem is after the fall, the megacities began to fail. When the Men of Iron were destroyed, humans were forced to labor under conditions originally meant for machines. Dark, hidden underground, unsafe, without adequate atmospheric circulation. Most of the healthy public facilities would have vanished, with a minority being preserved for the noble families who seized control at the topmost levels. Since the hive city paradigm seems to have been one of the standard practices for humanity colonizing the galaxy - back when such a city provided a good life - it explains why most of humanity lives in squalor now. They are being forced to inhabit environments that have not only fallen apart, but were never actually intended for human beings to live and work in.

[@aggressiveoatmealmemes6881]

No wonder people join the guard

[@louisazraels7072]

No wonder people join chaos cults

[@socramzetroc1535]

T'au empire is the best option

[@aggressiveoatmealmemes6881]

@@socramzetroc1535 it 100% isn’t

[@quazar5017]

Imperial GDP stonks

[@louisazraels7072]

The best thing the imperium could do to stem the tides of chaos is to improve the living conditions of their population

[@starfuryduck3446]

Nope too much free will and free time will make people inefficient and heretical in the eyes of the empire, because ever since the age of the robo uprising they have been extremely cautious in ever advancing the creative mind and technology. Also the imperium works on fear mongering so giving them terrible living conditions is one of the conditions to always be fearful.

[@thedungeondelver]

That's the great irony of 40k. There's so many obvious-on-the-face-of-it things they Imperium _could_ do to _fix_ things...but they won't. "That's Heresy," or "We've done it this way for 20000 years and aren't changing now." Besides: the Emperor doesn't give a damn about humans*, and neither does any other member of the Administratum. (*Yeah, yeah, he cares about "humanity" but they're nothing but cogs in a machine to him...which is weird and a tautology, when you think about it.)

[@alexandredevert4935]

Individual accommodation ? How selfish. I picture dorms of 12 ppl per room, hammocks that is yours for your allotted 8 hours of free time. No bed roll, the room is heated with waste heat from factories. One shower and one toilet per room, no windows, one flickering neon light. Kitchen is not necessary, the daily grub comes from a tube with a faucet. You just have a small box to put your few clothes and other personal belongings. Basically, student dorms in Asia in the late 90's.

[@tianchris2517]

The first two examples would lead to such massive attrition that the hive would simply die out. Grimdark has never been too realistic (North Korea is an exception because it is at odds with human nature) and at one point, 40k needs to answer the questions humans ask themselves. Why am I doing this? The worst way it could work while still maintaining survivable odds would be accomodation similar to the industrial centers in the 19th and 20th century. Which was terrible enough as I know from history lectures in university.

[@FarremShamist]

It's probably why the actual average is some sort of enclosed habitation unit, even if it's communal. Bunk beds or beehive sorts where you are in stacked wall capsules. Even if those are not preferable, definitely better than sticking next to death-fumes while you're asleep lmao

[@tianchris2517]

@@FarremShamist At least it will be a good sleep. I mean...the workers would literally die in their childhood without being able to procreate. Even satire can only go so far.

[@MichaelDavis-mk4me]

North Korea proves your point actually. Their population has been falling for decades. I also hold the view that the Imperium could not exist. People in such condition will not have children since they don't have the time, energy, living space and desire to build a family in this world. Children would die before even reaching adulthood due to pollutants. Disease would wipe the rest of the population out. Also people don't work well at all when doing 16 hours every day, they will doze off, botch their job, be unproductive. Massive parts of the population would rebel, they don't have anything to lose. And if they succeed, they won't care about the Chaos invasion, it will take thousands of years, far more than they or their children will ever see.

[@soccerandtrack10]

"Inperial fauder🤲🧎‍♂️inperial fauder 🤲🧎‍♂️veeeere aut,my inperial fauder🤲🧎‍♂️?...." Random old person="whaaaaah aaaaaat!!!!???..."

[@dystopianchimp]

🤲🧎‍♂️Amen 🤲🧎‍♂️

[@socramzetroc1535]

Having a door should be considered as a possible future Chaos cult

[@Huseyin-nh9vt]

This whole imperium of man needs a “RED REVOLUTION” 😅

[@ironguard4048]

You could argue that this world isn't capitalist in nature but more collectivist in nature. There seems to be little privatization in his description. Sure it's not collectivist for the workers but a corrupt collectivism feeding a war machine.

[@davidmiddleton7958]

The answer to that is a rockrete box, if you're lucky!

[@ZacharyReaper]

I would expect this from a bigger channel. Great work mate, you earn my sub!

[@dystopianchimp]

Thanks mate ❤ welcome aboard

[@Honza67382]

This video makes me wanna see Wojack's life in the Imperium.

[@dystopianchimp]

Haha if I had the animation skills I would definitely give it a go - No Budget Stories style

[@p.rpatriot4170]

Great video i like you want into the details with this one i have been looking for lore vids on hab units but i think your the only one that went in depth please make more vids like this.

[@Nine-Signs]

It occurs to me with how crap the conditions are for the majority workforce that this entire society would have collapsed into mass rebellions looooong ago. 😂

[@KneeCapHill]

Top tier content dude. Hope you do many other deep dives like this one

[@ricks5756]

I'd imagine 40K hab blocks looking a lot like the mega-blocks from Dredd (2012) or apartment blocks from Fifth Element (1997)

[@pikenson4974]

I would love to see the Daily life of a tech-priest, especially a low-level one

[@justinweber4977]

How does one ACQUIRE a hab-unit in a Hive City? Are there, like, realtors? Do you just kill someone and live in theirs?

[@Alex-xt1rr]

Yes, depending on how high up you live. Inherited from your ancestor who passed away after spending decades queuing up for and on his deathbed being granted one. Probably one could be awarded if you are constantly overachiving your workquota without dropping in quality.

[@majorkalashinikov1277]

Joe has a mind, and desires, for his life is bleak and his lords failed him, desires of lust, of knowlage, of health, of rage...

[@LeHunter70]

Dang, that is a good video for me, as you can visualize from the highest of kings to even low lives who have no purpose other than working. Either way, it is good, now i want to see an average life of an citizen in an imperial knight world. As always, i will wait for you to make that, thank you

[@soulsmoke01]

That was a dope vid! Great delivery,and presentation

[@PariahPernicus]

Love to see your channel rise ever higher, you deserve it. Great work sir o7

[@andynorton4854]

So basically, its like living in Leicester.

[@TheVillyham]

Lmao this sounds nicer than Leicester

[@kuzzii]

Great idea for a video, I rly want to see more channels explore general concepts like this one rather then mainly focusing on a very specific instance of lore.

[@JoshuaAdim]

This is one of the only 40k lore videos that didn't bore me to sleep, more please!

[@cyberleaderandy1]

This is very much like you see in the hab areas of Darktide. Only when you get into the archives or the tower areas do you get to see the posher parts of a hive.

[@mediaenoctem]

I really enjoy this. I love seeing space marines like any other Warhammer enjoyer, but also seeing the world is interesting as well.

[@docutains]

I was looking for a new 40k tuber, was on fence until the synthwave intro kicked in and I'm sold. Subbed right up bud, lets get it.

[@dystopianchimp]

Haha thanks mate - now you just need to check out the chimpwave volumes

[@soccerandtrack10]

0:22 "loyal". Like how serviters are "loyal".

[@UltraRaditzStane]

This lovely Toronto apartment can be yours for only 10,000 a mouth!

[@raffaelbaumkaenguruh2654]

great video! suprisinlgy chill atmosphere :) btw, did you make your PFP/the chimp in the outro? cuz it looks really cool!

[@Furzkampfbomber]

Liked and subbed. I am a sucker for Wh40k lore videos and I regularly listen to Baldermord, Luetin09 and Oculus Imperia to help me fall asleep. I can imagine seeing you in the same league. Not because your vids are so boring that I can't help but to fall asleep, but because of the structured way of your videos and your calm way of moderating them. Informative if you are into Wh40k and totally relaxing.

[@jonathanstempleton7864]

On the plus side, you finally found your bottle opener. Now you can open that 38,000 year old bottle of ... Damn, where did that go?

[@filanfyretracker]

the hab unit description kind of reminds me of where Dallas lived in The Fifth Element. Though at least he could see sunlight and order Chinese from his window.

[@EdricLysharae]

Hive cities really bring down the Quality of Life curve in 40k.

[@Hurricanelive]

Well, he hasn't reported his wife mia, so he gets double share luxury and doesn't have to be busted down to an even SMALLER hab unit. One could possibly imagine a long term stay in an ISO-cube would be a true luxury compared to the majority of situations one may find themselves in 40k. Always a roll of the dice. I think joy comes down to possessions and friendships rather than cold hard cash. Even cash can only get you so far and some thugs are deaf to that. Owning a relic laspistol (heck, even a zip tube), a 200sq foot apartment possibly with a drop down lav that doesn't smell too much, and an acquaintance or two that you may consider a friend, these are the true riches. Cash could get you up a few hundred floors, maybe even a bodyguard or two, but can you really trust them? That's a big bullseye. Heck, even Joe's wife and lover might come knocking one day looking for a quick score.

[@filanfyretracker]

Honestly the fact Judge Dredd has the isocubes shows how much more humane it is than 40k, I suspect most punishments for law violations in 40k carry far worse outcomes than an isocube or getting judged in MC1.

[@thedungeondelver]

@@filanfyretracker If it's severe enough to call the cops, it's likely a summary judgement on the spot, and the lowest tiers are getting you through a tube in their ration cups in hours.

[@itsbezerkintime67]

Please make a series out of this all the things you listed i would love to hear about especially guardsmen’s every day life

[@toobig7150]

This channel it's dripping with personality and character, so many channels focus on the "wow isn't this so dark, imagine lol" but you actually point how, by the common Joe of the imperium, that's just how things are, and how they just live day by day, just as we do, no extreme aspirations, no insane dreams, just living, or rather, surviving, it's the goal. I'll be watching your other videos, I usually just put 40k videos as background noise but this actually made me stop what I was doing and actually listen, it felt like I was watching a movie.

[@dystopianchimp]

Thanks mate ❤I do think 40k needs more 'showing' rather than 'telling' when it comes to living day-to-day (in every faction), I find it really refreshing looking into this stuff especially when most of the lore is mostly stuff that goes beyond mortal comprehension

[@vylbird8014]

@@dystopianchimp Easily done, too... it would be interesting for a story to involve some of the often-covered Space Marines doing battle in a hive city and being reminded how most of the imperium lives, and how privileged their own position is. Being so heavily trained for loyalty, this would probably just remind them what they fight for - the day when the enemies of the Imperium (ie, everyone else) are defeated, the fighting may finally end, and all the resources and lives spent on weapons may instead be used to better the lives of the people. But still, it's going to have an emotional impact even on the Astartes.

[@Bill-ix2zc]

One of my favorite descriptions of a Hive World's hab blocks would have to come from Arch, as he basically calls the habs storage units, in which the millions of human tools are stored from floor to ceiling until needed.

[@KalashVodka175]

In warhammer crime serie, life for average local enforcer detective (not Arbite! Local copper), the equivalent of middle class, is sort of meh, but in a tolerable way all thing considering. Hab block is safe, apartment is big enough for the family, food comes by thanks to salary, even a work car and assigned gear.

[@callumstuart9094]

Another top tier video mate. Your quality is consistent and rivals the big channels, I hope you go a long way here you deserve it! We need more non-meme enjoyable content, and you explore aspects of the lore that others may overlook. Keep it coming mate I love it.

[@dystopianchimp]

Much appreciated mate! Glad you liked the vid - more on the way

[@nicolaipetersen5675]

Dude this was amzing!

[@berkaltuglu8140]

Goverment sponsored housing?! Sign me the duck up!!!

[@oniontaster6449]

"whats it like living in a hive in 40k" "ever been to china?" what did he mean by this

[@Reallyidktbh]

Hardest struggle in a high-tech civilized world: "Oh no this is a nightmare, my Noosphere connection is just 800Mbps and now I must play pixel games."

[@Laikafan02]

10:59 ultra-rare moment of optimism in WH40k, even if it is bleak and pitiful, it’s still a ray of hope for someone like Joe

[@btf1287]

love the music choice very blade runner which I believe is set in the same universe as 40k btw

[@raphadias4741]

I would join chaos 1000%

[@Caspero83]

Thank you!

[@nanettesage1112]

Thank you. A wonderful video.

[@Peter2k84]

For every comparison, while interesting to explore, always have to remember that in 40k, Humanity would have stopped existing if the Imperium would have been less cruel.

[@passchen-fail3704]

Excellent video. This is super cool.

[@Jetstoanywhere]

Nice work! Really good!

[@justinianthegreat1444]

Didn't know that Hive city life is Cyberpunk cranked up to 11

[@dystopianchimp]

Cyberpunk but with a lot less colour and many more robes

[@connertomaterhater6691]

Necromunda is really cyber punk.

[@TheKingofbrooklin]

This seems to make joining the guard a great opportunity.

[@krisk4875]

Graat vid dude!

[@Rapture-nv5vj]

Well, well, well another 40K channel... But a really good one. Subscribed and i will wait for more 😁

[@waynetemplar2183]

Still not as rough as growing up on a council estate in the UK

[@QueenBitchization]

I think it's really neat that you take a narrative approach to questions. I was expecting yet another WH40K description channel, but instead you narrate a day-in-the-life. I appreciate that, so you've definitely earned a sub. Cheers!

[@lionsoldier1179]

Another factor in citizens daily lives in 40K is where they live in the galaxy. A hive city in Ultramar is genuinely a better place to live than some agri-worlds, simply because Ultramar is a sector of the galaxy where the Imperium (more specifically, Guiliman) actually cares about you to an extent. I mean, sure, they’ll still throw you to the meat grinder if needed, but they do care about whether you’re warm and fed, and have a voice. It all depends.

[@dystopianchimp]

Well said

[@HorizonIsHere1337]

Solid content mate.

[@darabyrne2515]

Good video! Keep em coming