What is the best 4x4

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Ronny Dahl

Ronny Dahl

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@simonmetcalfe1254
@simonmetcalfe1254 2 жыл бұрын
What ever you are lucky enough to own! That’s the best!!
@ryanm4013
@ryanm4013 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir!!
@Alan-tn6de
@Alan-tn6de 2 жыл бұрын
Carpe diem!
@torontocharlz
@torontocharlz 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Nissan Frontier Pro4x
@AssMcBlast
@AssMcBlast 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@miketer21
@miketer21 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely sir
@AgentXRifle
@AgentXRifle 2 жыл бұрын
The best 4x4 is the one you own and use! For me, 2005 Jeep WK 5.7 Hemi w/KO2 tires. 99% of the time, I’m using it for highway driving… but that 1% when it’s needed, it does great!
@commonsense-grs
@commonsense-grs 2 жыл бұрын
spot on, have a 2010 WH V6 diesel with KO2 tyres, hemi would be nice as well.
@V8AmericanMuscleCar
@V8AmericanMuscleCar 2 жыл бұрын
My friend have WK (diesel version) with QD II and it goes everywhere. Great ride!
@chrishanslow4825
@chrishanslow4825 2 жыл бұрын
I've always believed that no matter what 4wd you own, if it gets you out caamping and touring then it's a good thing. I also believe that there's no bad 4wd's just bad drivers who don't drive to their own personal and 4wd's ability.
@AbbasBinYounas
@AbbasBinYounas 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true me Mr Hanslow, if you have it and it works the way it should, it's essentially the best...
@chrishanslow4825
@chrishanslow4825 2 жыл бұрын
@@AbbasBinYounas exactly mate but also what Ronny said did make alot of sense and in no part did I disagree with him. Now the L300 express wagon was a good 4wd based van but I reckon Ronny needs to get a modified L400 Delica on modified and compare the differences between them both in off road ability and modification availability.
@AbbasBinYounas
@AbbasBinYounas 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrishanslow4825 of course, he's always on point with things that make perfect sense.
@bamafencer12
@bamafencer12 2 жыл бұрын
This! Facts. It all depends on the driver. I always love seeing stock Jeeps around here!
@moa-wg3bo
@moa-wg3bo Жыл бұрын
How about a subaru justy? Love those things haha
@joshiepoo4
@joshiepoo4 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just super impressed with how well the small live axle did, as a jb74 Jim y owner, I accept its flaws and shortcomings, but it scored way better than I expected against the big boys!
@symmetry08
@symmetry08 Жыл бұрын
This is so much precise assesment if one interested to know what exatly he/she wants to buy if he/she looking into buying 4x4.
@danwhite9436
@danwhite9436 2 жыл бұрын
Ronny great logical review. No doubt the Troopy is the best 4x4. As I don’t tour and all my off-roading is within 300km, I can get away with a SWB off-roader. Being an weekend warrior. I enjoy the capability of a 2 door Rubicon, as it is the closest thing to an off-road buggy.
@PeterPaoliello
@PeterPaoliello 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, I've an '06 Escape and its objectively fair to put it close to last within the context of this criteria but it has served me fantastically and exceeded all my expectations for the things that I require of a car. Definitely good food for thought on the next one though.
@shanevillis4079
@shanevillis4079 2 жыл бұрын
The best 4x4 is the one you can afford to own, run and repair. Especially now with the fuel prices going the way they are( they aren't going back down again).
@jonvoogd511
@jonvoogd511 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty new to your channel and I'm attracted to it because back in the day I had several 4x4s. We just had a blast 4 wheeling along and in the mud roads and sand pits of IA 🇺🇸. MY trucks were old Chevy pick-ups and blazers. Watching you guys having fun really brings back memories of my youth💯😘
@Cristobal_Ygnacio_Arriaga
@Cristobal_Ygnacio_Arriaga 2 жыл бұрын
I think the troopy scores so well here is because as you and Andrew from 4xoverland has said, you can do anything with it. It’s a blank canvas that can be turned into whatever you want. Very versatile vehicle that combines the practicality of a van with heavy duty 4wd chassis.
@krismezza
@krismezza 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a 2013 150 Prado 3.0 TD, and it gets me to wherever I want to go. Spends most of its life driving highway, is comfortable, fuel efficient, and drives very much like a car (not like a truck). When I want to go offroad, let the tyres down, select center diff, and off i go. Thought about getting a 200 series, or the new 300.. but the Prado does everything I want, and has never let me down. Plus with the new TD motors, I don't like DFS, so having a non-DFS model is good.
@marcoe14
@marcoe14 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. In my opinion, the title should say "overlander" and not 4x4. I like the definition that Matt (morr) said about the difference between overlander and 4x4... "4x4 is when overlanders can't go, they are too tall and heavy on the roof and they flip" (something like that). Also, there are like 3 categories related to "home on wheels". I am a weekend warrior so I only sleep one night outside, I rather be light and sneaky, than carrying fuel, water, energy, dual batts, drawer systems, wtc... The lighter, the better.
@V8AmericanMuscleCar
@V8AmericanMuscleCar 2 жыл бұрын
Same with me so XJ does great job for me. Not too big or heavy but I have room for what I need for weekend. Cheers!
@jimmyjimmy951
@jimmyjimmy951 2 жыл бұрын
Prado for me. Daily drive and comfort are key given my car only gets used 10% of the time off road. Important point to consider on the spread sheet..👍🇦🇺
@southernwarrior9302
@southernwarrior9302 2 жыл бұрын
Well then it’s only a 4x4 10% of the time
@highcountryrob5534
@highcountryrob5534 2 жыл бұрын
G’day Ronny, what an interesting comparison that you’ve put together.I’ve had 3 different types/configurations of 4x4 vehicles in my time.In 2006 I switched to a 2004 Nissan GU Patrol wagon TD6 and I haven’t looked back.Sure, over time I’ve made modifications and added accessories to my GU to suit my needs.Comfort,space,reliability and flexibility are also very important to me.I’m happy to see that the live axle wagons have scored highly in your comparison.Cheers,Rob.
@Berawabilly
@Berawabilly 2 жыл бұрын
the best 4x4 ever made
@highcountryrob5534
@highcountryrob5534 2 жыл бұрын
@@Berawabilly -I agree!👍
@neilw5198
@neilw5198 2 жыл бұрын
Still being sold I agree troopy......best ever 4wd we all know its the 4.2td 80 series landcruiser.
@scottgordon954
@scottgordon954 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing I could argue with at all in your conclusions. That said I drive a VERY small 4X4 (1979 Jeep CJ5) and while it can run circles around almost anything larger off road, it has it's major drawbacks. No load hauling to speak of, almost zero creature comforts, a ride like a buckboard on and off road, and very limited "personal space" in it. I would never trade it for anything else on the list for the way I use it, but I would place it almost exactly where you have the small live axle rigs on the list.
@GR8Tmate
@GR8Tmate 2 жыл бұрын
⭐️Troopy is a Rock Star ⭐️ I’ve had a few 4x4 Tourers including 3 where I did Full time travel & this is how I rate them. 1. Troopy 2. Troopy 3. Single Cab 79 (Towing).
@josedarrylalano8356
@josedarrylalano8356 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome analysis mate! I’ve always liked the troopy with a chopped roof tent. Thanks Ronny! Great content!
@MicahBell_1860
@MicahBell_1860 2 жыл бұрын
Giggles, so going by what I need for myself & my family (4 feral sawn-offsavages), to go touring/camping, with the occasional hard 4wding, my factory turbo diesel, 80 series wagon, is a clear, hands down winner. Cheers for confirming my choice, of what I was very confident, would be my best option! By the way, I am not being sarcastic
@harryp6915
@harryp6915 2 жыл бұрын
Really fun episode! The one thing I disagree with - the score of 13 for IFS wagons for the Fuel section. Though it's only 1 vehicle of many in the category, I'd consider the fuel economy, tank size and load one of the best things about my 120 series prado. We went up to Steep Point in November: myself, my partner and our 4 month old baby. Absolutely packed to the roof of the car, 'sagging in the back' level of loaded down. The car still delivered somewhere around 10L to the 100km which is incredible! Coming from Bunbury, we made it to the Overlander. Topped up, went to Steep Point, hit some tracks there, went to Monkey Mia, did a few tracks south of there, and only topped up at the Overlander once more on the way back down. Absolute weapon :) Still, a great vid!
@EARTHROMR
@EARTHROMR 2 жыл бұрын
180L standard in the 120 Prado. I agree, he got this wrong
@dimitriadriansz2513
@dimitriadriansz2513 2 жыл бұрын
As a 120 owner I agree, I don't get as good a fuel economy as that any more as it is 19 years old. It is still an epic long range tourer. You can't beat the 180l tank. In 2021 drove through Mt Augusta, karajini, mill stream and coral bay, never panicked about fuel stops, unlike our friends who went with us in a Ford ranga.
@BorisEkner
@BorisEkner 2 жыл бұрын
I fully agree with you, Ronny. The best 4x4 overlander is the one that fits your environment. Meaning, you drive flat country in AUS, I drive up/down mountains/volcanoes in Central America. - You camp while I sleep in cheap hotels for security reasons. This is a huge a huge difference.
@justinmcroberts4633
@justinmcroberts4633 2 жыл бұрын
Here in the US, my first thought was (regarding "common" off roaders) the 80 Series LC. But being in Australia, I can see the Troopy being the best. The US made heavy duty trucks are decent, but almost too big for any amount of tighter trails. For touring, they are great. Anything technical, not so much.
@triggerhappy8872
@triggerhappy8872 2 жыл бұрын
Faaaaaark’n hell maaaate Toyota Toyota Toyota 😳👎 You yanks are as bad most dudes here in Oz. Mate Whatta bout NISSAN PATROL GU, TD42TI Coil Cab Utes Tuff gearbox, Tuff driveline shit on Toyota mate, my PATROL Td42ti hauls ass & reliable AF, OMG 😱 are they what 400k never been touched. Nah it’s cool man just mess’n with ya 👍.. We can get all your trucks here in Oz but ya can’t get ours you lot must be Spew’n yeh..
@niki3151
@niki3151 2 жыл бұрын
@@triggerhappy8872 cant get a Patrol GU in many places (for example Germany) , bought a Gladiator, I know, stupid. But its fun.
@EliZabielski
@EliZabielski 2 жыл бұрын
​@@triggerhappy8872 No Patrol in the US either. 4runners, Tacomas and Jeeps dominate the market by far. After that it's Land Cruisers (80/100/200 wagons only), full size trucks, and other new stuff like the Defender and Bronco.
@triggerhappy8872
@triggerhappy8872 2 жыл бұрын
@@EliZabielski Oh man you must spew’n not being able to get our trucks in the states the 79’s & GQ/GU PATROL’s Td42ti engine’s.. My 2004 GU is a coil cab ute & a bigger turbo’n top mount cooler 18psi & mate she scoot’s along & for the past 400k she’s never stopped.. & i like the fact it’s not common rail, no add blue, no electronic crap, easy to service. Also compared with toyota the Patrol’s diff’s & gearbox’s are much stronger & bigger more like proper truck gearbox & my rear LSD still works great, where yota’s LSD’s are weak rarely work.. But yota’s 1hdfte is the best 4.2 td ever built i think.. We get the yanky trucks here GMC, F trucks & the Cummins 6bt & Duramax are great engines but the actual vehicles they come in i don’t like much far to big & not very reliable & not built as tuff as the Nissan Patrol & older Landcruiser’s.. I just changed my clutch as i often travel isolated spots pig shoot’n & it still had meat left on it after 400k the Japanese engendered these trucks really well. But hey that’s just my opinion mate & I’m biased towards older Patrols…. Oh i see the odd Tacoma but it’s rare & jeeps are getting popular here too but manly in the city’s.. Out bush here in Oz all you see is Landcruiser & Patrol’s not as much but, heaps of hilux’s & Land Rover, jeeps get made fun of here we just laugh, it’s a long story.
@triggerhappy8872
@triggerhappy8872 2 жыл бұрын
@@niki3151 Yeh mate i don’t like jeeps myself but if i didn’t have the option to buy my GU Patrol Td42ti or toyota i’d probably have to settle for what i can get too. Jeeps are pretty popular over here in Oz but manly in the city & taking kids to school or as we say Mall Crawlers. What part of Germany 🇩🇪 you from? I’m 100% German blood 🩸 but born in Oz, oma & opa & parents come from Cologne & Hamburg. Many places to go off-road over there?
@gonegliding2966
@gonegliding2966 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparisons. " if you feel butt hurt after this ...dont" hahaha Haters gonna hate, criers gonna cry and trollers gonna troll. Thanks for the episode Ronny. Peace.
@auladepiano
@auladepiano 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review Ronny. My wife and I, we live 3 years now in our Troopy. 24/7 It's just perfect and complete for a couple.
@BF109G4
@BF109G4 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Saudi Arabia. The best 4 wheel car ever made is the FZJ80. Reliable: It can outlive a human. Efficient: Chassis is stiff, wires are of good quality, visibility is the best, and you can heavy modify it. Fun to drive: the car is good in quality. Everything you touch inside the car is tuff. Character: long travel wheels, solid axles, beautiful design, and powerful engine (for it’s time). I love my buddy, he’s the best land cruiser ever made.
@tonymiller5841
@tonymiller5841 2 жыл бұрын
I did similar rating for myself several years ago and came to the same conclusions. Glad to see that someone with that much of experience confirm my newbie thoughts =). Got myself a live axel wagon (LC 105) with petrol. It is heavy on your bank account when it comes to fuel economy but it is such a nice all rounder, can't complain. Went to pretty crazy tracks, got stuck only once in 3 years. One thing you don't talk about is potential panel damage. In wagons the risk quite a bit higher =).
@Will-nb8qk
@Will-nb8qk Жыл бұрын
More people are moving to petrol but surely not because of diesel prices. Is there something with petrol forbies that Im oblivious to?
@tonymiller5841
@tonymiller5841 Жыл бұрын
@@Will-nb8qk The power band is way wider, you have more various RPM ranges to play with and because of that it is easier to drive on sand. Unless you're doing heavy towing, I wouldn't go diesel. TBH I'm dreaming about hybrid Hilux. Another thing I'm thinking about is to buy a wreck of Rav4 Hybrid and pull power train out of it and try to swap. In Rav4 it does 5.5 per 100, so if it'll be 10 per 100 in LC instead of 20, that would be a dream =)
@Will-nb8qk
@Will-nb8qk Жыл бұрын
@@tonymiller5841: Geez, good information to know. Thanks 😊
@access8504
@access8504 Жыл бұрын
Always wanted a Troopy, went with the POV Pac 105, 20 years ago, been everywhere with it and love it as a daily drive, had a 200 as well, sold it kept the 105, will never sell. Best part is it always gets you home and if you take out the back seats! heaps of room for a swag ect ect.
@Shagsteri
@Shagsteri 2 жыл бұрын
As a petrol 105 series cruiser owner; I gotta say that when given a choice, I will still take my car for small trips. To be fair; I am moving to new Hilux SR. The 105 is a tank; and it has never failed me. But I dont leverage that power and capability that often. Last time was to rip iron bark trees from a hill and dirt ... and the car *loved it* .. no skittering/movement - It was me chosing the right line vs capability. I choose one situation wrong; but the car didn't care; and gave me the option to change and rip the iron bark from the hill. And it did exactly that.
@fredscheerle7592
@fredscheerle7592 Жыл бұрын
Great episode Ronnie, Had a thirsty(15+ lp 100km) 99 holden rodeo 3.2 V6 for off road and firewood collection, 2wd Ute clearance ran well till bottom Rad hose popped off then not so well!
@nasseral-momen1463
@nasseral-momen1463 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode. Lots of interesting points. I own a 4 door jeep jk and bought a troopy few days ago. Completely different vehicles for different uses. Love them both for different reasons
@borisjohnson1944
@borisjohnson1944 2 жыл бұрын
Another maybe worthwhile component to The Best 4WD would be maintenance costs.
@volkantayfur7400
@volkantayfur7400 2 жыл бұрын
I have a troopy now amd agree with you. Overall it is truck with a large closed space. Do whatever you like with it. This is a very important episode for the openminded.
@lockeddiffbro6177
@lockeddiffbro6177 2 жыл бұрын
Love it!! Most youtubers would be afraid to actually say it how it is!!
@BorisEkner
@BorisEkner 2 жыл бұрын
By accident (ie bad mapping) we did a 7(!) hour track up/down 5 mountains from Laguna Magdalena to Nentón in Guatemala last weekend. It was an amazing drive and I would do it again in a heartbeat thanks to the scenery and the vehicle (a tiny Jimny)! No, we don’t camp. We sleep in cheap hotels due to security concerns - and for good a good morning shower and good breakfasts. - But the drive was amazing! ❤️ The vehicles you talk about are too large for our kind of mountainous driving. No pun intended. It’s just difference of environment.
@CustomcrowdMitroc
@CustomcrowdMitroc 2 жыл бұрын
Discover 4s are the most underrated 4x4 ever made. I own a kitted out 79 series and I'm still very impressed how well my old disco 4 went. Thing couldn't climb up the most slippery hill climbs with no wheel slip at all was a beautiful car. Thing was able to keep up with massive kitted at gus no problem. Only problem is it is a landrover so u are always expecting something to go wrong
@kichaa13
@kichaa13 2 жыл бұрын
nobody denies that LRs are amazing off road. its all the other issues that are th eprob
@claytonthiedecke469
@claytonthiedecke469 2 жыл бұрын
I think the only people that have reliability issues with land rovers are toyota drivers, owned land rovers for over 20 years, watch my toyota mates with their bonnets up once or twice a day and then tell me they are the most reliable 4wd?
@ericjohnson6802
@ericjohnson6802 2 жыл бұрын
Could not agree more..our D4SC craps all over eg 200s and cost way less 2nd hand. It still has more features than a 300s and doesn't need spensive suspension upgrades etc. Our has 145000 ks with no issues. Best car I've ever owned. Ps we have 5 Patrols ..one a comp truck..and test track..so I can vouch for its off road and on road ability..a brilliant car.
@ericjohnson6802
@ericjohnson6802 2 жыл бұрын
They all have issues just that any LR issues get blown out of all proportions. All modern cars are complex..LRs were complex earlier than most and much of the current eg LC300 tech was in LRs years ago..essentially being tested b 4 others copied it shamelessly.
@cashall3857
@cashall3857 2 жыл бұрын
Advice on touring around Australia towing a Kimberly Karavan (hybrid) with a Disco 4 As I’m doing my research on which 4WD to buy I’d like to get off the beaten track but no hard core stuff -Sand Maybe Fraser Island etc Dirt well most of the Outback. I owned a Disco 2 before but not towed much Some off road. So reliability, fuel, Comfort pretty important If I need Tyres is that going to be an issue etc
@guidon.5413
@guidon.5413 2 жыл бұрын
I was actually surprised that you didn't end up with a "the best is the one that is best FOR YOU" like so many videos. One thing that provides a little bias is the climate a vehicle is used in. The warmer the climate the less relevant a "home on wheels" is, the colder or wetter the climate the more important load carrying, the ability to have "inside living space" etc. become. Interesting enough, I actually agree that the Troopy is the best combination of many qualities if you can live with the very few downsides (only good for two people, narrow living space, inside living mostly okay for one person, only in emergencies for two, etc.). I opted for the double cab 79 for one simple reason: it's so flexible. I actually wanted a single cab to have a massive blank canvas to build on, but then I can't go out with more than two or three people and that's a non-starter. So it had to have a second row of usable seats (which can be taken out when traveling with just two people - which then makes the load carrying very good because you have tons of inside space you can use), we considered Hilux (we drive a 4Runner right now) and discounted it for the pain of the very vulnerable front suspension. The 4Runner is so easily damaged there and goes incredibly easy out of alignment. So, we decided on a 79 Dual Cab for our next travel vehicle (based out of Europe, therefore unfortunately a petrol engine). The petrol vs. diesel option is also a two edged sword - the modern diesels are not good when you go to places that don't have high fuel quality and the fuel/injection system is rather picky. The main upside is lower consumption and it's a bit safer. It's actually easier to take a relatively modern (nobody in their right mind would call a 79 modern) petrol engine and drive it in many countries than a modern diesel engine with particulate filter. So many things to consider there, it's a very difficult question to answer. Also, availability of accessories massively depends on the market you're in. Australia or South Africa is incredible for Land Cruiser 70 Series. Europe or the US - your out of luck. Defenders - parts available everywhere, partly because you damn near need them everywhere and all the time. So, great video, I really liked it! But in the end: make a list of needs and give ratings how well the vehicle (class) does every point on the list and you might end up with something quite different for each person.
@fisherman6794
@fisherman6794 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great comparison if money is no issue, however for most people it is. The troopy/live axle dual cabs cost in a lot of cases twice as much as an ifs dual cab. $30k, $40k, $100k saving is a lot of money for mods/fuel/travelling etc
@WoodcockFamilyOverland
@WoodcockFamilyOverland 2 жыл бұрын
Ronny’s gone to a lot effort to justify the troopy to the missus! 😂
@johnnysamples
@johnnysamples 2 жыл бұрын
My wife loves her 2022 Power Wagon. We live here in the states, but she is Australian.
@davidmadej5955
@davidmadej5955 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Jeep Wrangler, Land Rover defender, and Toyota landcruisers are the most popular off roaders. Your conclusion does reflect that. It’s also nice to know why someone might choose a truck or SUV in general outside the modified episodes.
@kentaylor2950
@kentaylor2950 2 жыл бұрын
This is pretty good, super informative. I think people need to realise that the best 4wd is not necessarily the best 4wd for themselves. For some people, a softroader might be all they need.
@bradloch9397
@bradloch9397 Жыл бұрын
Troopy Hands down without a doubt. I have had long & mid wheel base wagons & Utes.But the Troopy is my favourite and most functional all round 4x4
@Thejeepcalledyeti
@Thejeepcalledyeti 2 жыл бұрын
Two-door Wrangler Rubicon will take you anywhere you need to go.
@liamadams8647
@liamadams8647 2 жыл бұрын
I drive a defender 110 hard top (3 door) so I’m pretty pleased the troops has done so well as it’s the same layout
@neilw5198
@neilw5198 2 жыл бұрын
Nice car the 110 would love to get a 3door in Australia.
@J_D_Adama
@J_D_Adama 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Mazda BT 50 kitted out and it looked great but never had the time to go off camping, fishing in remote places. Now my young family has a SsangYong Musso Rhino LWB, stock standard except some all terrains and Maxtrax and the places I've taken that to, so to me that's the perfect 4x4, because I'm using it and enjoying it. Great video Ronnie 🇬🇧👌
@deejayvee
@deejayvee 2 жыл бұрын
In general I would agree with most of this, but it comes down to personal priorities. One strange score was the troopy beating ifs dual cab on fuel. I understand your reasoning, but it seems to disregard actual fuel usage. I fully pack up my hilux for a trip and get ~ 10L/100km (depending on how much 110kph I do). I don't know what a troopy would use, but I can't see it being anywhere near that.
@Mouldyturnip75
@Mouldyturnip75 2 жыл бұрын
Well-considered and regardless it will always be controversial. Form v Function, head v heart purchase and brand loyalty. No one vehicle can do everything. On a side note, I never realised the rhinohide on the prado (perhaps other wagons too) covers the fuel filler point....something to consider.
@Ngunirovers7481
@Ngunirovers7481 2 жыл бұрын
I drive a V8 “troopy” but it has IFS and IRS with air springs. It also has 5 doors, and 7 seats. It can tow 3500kg well, it off roads very well, and can go 0-100kph in 7 secs, very good on road, has a top speed of 220kph, sounds great, two adults can sleep in the back, and 1 child on a platform above the feet. Brilliant sound system, brilliant lights, brilliant safety. It can work, (aka) tow a trailer, and it can overland and play. It can take 18inch rims, it can take a load, it can take a variety of accessories, and it looks great. The two things it doesn’t have is a good reputation, and good fuel economy, but I think it will fair better than most V8s. What is it? Land Rover Discovery 4 5.0 V8 HSE. The best 4x4xfar. Haha, great video Ronny, we all love our vehicles, and we are definitely biased to what we own and drive, at least we are all like minded people. Cheers mate.
@michaelhermans4753
@michaelhermans4753 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not a Manuel, has a small fuel tank and doesn’t need offset rims
@davidhuett3579
@davidhuett3579 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhermans4753 Auto is better ... mine has a 170L fuel tank, 18" wheels and it doesn't need offset rims. Ohhh ... and it's a 3L twin turbo diesel with just over 700nM torque and the list goes on .......
@michaelhermans4753
@michaelhermans4753 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidhuett3579 yes I know the vehicle very well I was taking the piss
@anbu999
@anbu999 2 жыл бұрын
Best 4wd probably the wrangler. Keeping up with the twin locked cruisers without any locker. With the ending of the clip, does that mean Troopy build is coming ?
@duder596
@duder596 2 жыл бұрын
Nice first run, Ronnie, but a couple of suggestions for the next crack: Fuel: no mention of efficiency. Storage capacity is negated if you burn through it like no ones business Work & Play: I know you're from WA, but not everyone is a tradie. Lots of people still need their vehicle for work also and have to travel long distances, but instead of needing to carry tools have to factor in the comfort, agilty, and fuel economy of the vehicle Affordability: I understand this is a bit of a "if money wasn't a factor" assessment, but when many 4x4s are upwards of $70k before mods this should be considered for a practical review Either way, good watch as always, keep it up.
@claytonthiedecke469
@claytonthiedecke469 2 жыл бұрын
I have done a fair bit of 4wding in my life, my son bought a VW Touareg (2006 with transfer box), very impressive, best traction control system, it will give any vehicle mentioned here a run for its money
@Will-nb8qk
@Will-nb8qk Жыл бұрын
Not surprised the troopy got it. So versatile and can go anywhere! If I lived in the cape or NT then I’d be getting a troopy allll day!
@eroffroad5438
@eroffroad5438 2 жыл бұрын
Do you get extra points for owning both top two? A HZJ75 Troopy and a HZJ105.
@thomasmullins1783
@thomasmullins1783 2 жыл бұрын
Love this. Here in the US I drive an ifs full size wagon with a v8 petrol and factory max towing package (upgraded cooling system and reduction gears from factory) and it serves me perfectly (chevy tahoe z71 offroad package) Tons of power to tow, tons of gearing to climb, tons of space for storage (so much so that I often just sleep inside the cab) and is very comfortable on the road. The only down sides are torsion bar suspension up front and the fact that she's addicted to gasoline. Not as offroad capable as friends with jeeps or toyotas, but far more comfortable than most of those, far more space inside, and a much further range thanks to massive fuel tank. Again, serves my needs perfectly. Love the channel Ronny
@CustomcrowdMitroc
@CustomcrowdMitroc 2 жыл бұрын
Best 4x4 I could think of would be a pre 2016 130 defender with a 1hdfte power plant in a auto That would be Awsome. Couldn't imagine a better 4x4. Or even a gu patrol with a Toyota power plant in it. You get thr amazing heavy duty patrol running gear powered by 1vdfte or something like that
@roytherhodesian4029
@roytherhodesian4029 2 жыл бұрын
For balance of on road and capable off road vehicle, go the Pajero sport, really the hardcore off road stuff will likely never happen and the Paj will eat up the usual beach , tracks and moderate terrain as well as tow , nuf said
@Alsinsin
@Alsinsin Жыл бұрын
Just got your video channel and a lot of nice and informative videos. One thing is also price and availability. Also depending on which factor has more weight. Those are not the same depending on what you need to do. I have been thinking about what would be best for me in Thailand. At this point my conclusion is a Ranger 3.2 Wildtrack. Not easy to make a choice and still full of doubt about pulling the trigger.
@Nick-sd7um
@Nick-sd7um 2 жыл бұрын
The TD42GU patrol with the td42ti (factory intercooled).
@Mixablefive4
@Mixablefive4 2 жыл бұрын
I have an interesting argument for general comfort saying that a live axle is more comfortable. Main reason being due to it having so much suspension travel is suspension is tuned correctly it has much more space to dampen and decrease harshness and make for a more comfortable ride, offroad I find my 105 vastly more comfortable then my old man's 200 purely because it just has so much more suspension travel to use to make for a more comfortable drive
@shawnsimpson5988
@shawnsimpson5988 2 жыл бұрын
loving the sneak peaks of the 79 mate! nice little red accents everywhere! cant wait to see the reveal
@Raven-cf5qd
@Raven-cf5qd 2 жыл бұрын
Ronny Dahl is pretty spot on here except me personally I would say the wagon is the best simply because they generally have coils all round which means they are more comfy, are able to get a lot of suspension flex very easily. Keeping in mind some people spend 10s of thousands to get that suspension type under their IFS/LEAF suspension. So yeah my take is the wagon is better. And I'd probably say more specifically its between the 80 series, GU or GQ of which one is the best. Some will say the patrols because of their tougher drive line, some will say 80 because of the better diesel engines.
@willk76
@willk76 2 жыл бұрын
Isnt anyone going to mention the elephant in the room? A troopie! How much do you pay for a troopie these days? theres litterally a 2006 manual troopie on carsales for $85K right now! seriously WTF! Manual windows, manual trans, vinal floors, tape deck, and an extremley uncomfortable ride! And stock they dont have a locker or LSD, seriously basic vehicle for the $$$. then look at something like a prado (yeah laugh if you like, but same brand for commparrison purposes), less money ($72K GLX), extremley comfortable, locker, dual fuel tank, way more aftermarket gear, etc. you'd have to be crazy to go for a troopie unless it was for a mine site, farm, remote community, and then only for some very specific reasons. Happy to be sledged for this, I honestly cant understand why anyone would choose a troopie over say a Prado if an IFS would do what they want to do with the troopie. just my opinion. And thats why a perfect 4x4 dosent exist.
@nic.in.the.pacific5113
@nic.in.the.pacific5113 2 жыл бұрын
A well thought out ranking and I’d agree with outcome, I have a 105 LC
@o0bananaman0o
@o0bananaman0o 2 жыл бұрын
I thought a V8 turbo diesel would be a hard sell to the missus given the current fuel prices. I'll just show her this vid and say it tops the fuel economy rating ROFL!!
@doncorleon9
@doncorleon9 Ай бұрын
I tell you, it is whichever it is you have. In the market fir a 4x4 and that decision is not easy. So I respect whatever it is you decide to buy.
@markpeters4841
@markpeters4841 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool analysis, completely agree with you, Troopy is king! I drive a 105 which I was happy to see coming in second! Great video and content!
@laytonb7
@laytonb7 2 жыл бұрын
When ever a KZbin title is posed in the form of a question …the answer is no … therefore there is no best 4x4 … The answer to what do the professional off-road drivers drive …what ever their sponsors will sponsor … then you need to list achievements such as crossing all seven continents and driving to the North Pole and world wide sales figures (popularity contest) …then honorable mentions like tube frame buggies/racers, moon rover etc … then you still get something with a LandCruiser badge like the 70 series Troopy …so well done on handicapping the race … now can we start an argument/debate over the best sandwich while driving to BFE … I vote Burrito/wrap!!! Hehe!! Thanks for sharing!!
@dimitristsagdis7340
@dimitristsagdis7340 2 жыл бұрын
At min 13:11 what vehicle is this/is it from modified? which episode? Found it in case anyone else is wondering: Toyota Custom 80 series Landcruiser, Modified Episode 40
@chrisbouris3699
@chrisbouris3699 2 жыл бұрын
just getting ready to ask Ronnie, for 13.07 minute. when i saw your post. Probably should be the same. Thanks!!
@slowboat6021
@slowboat6021 2 жыл бұрын
interesting conversation, for towing our caravan I prefer my 4 wheel independent air suspension wagon, very stable on the road and tracks, no droopy arse and good fuel consumption. at the end of the day every body will have different needs and no vehicle is prefect for every situation.
@cashall3857
@cashall3857 2 жыл бұрын
What do you own?
@slowboat6021
@slowboat6021 2 жыл бұрын
@@cashall3857 2004 Touareg TDI.
@aukanmeister
@aukanmeister 2 жыл бұрын
What is the best 4x4? Mine of course. 80 series FTW! 😉 Good video, btw!
@willmcc05
@willmcc05 5 ай бұрын
With patrol diffs 🤙
@BorisEkner
@BorisEkner 2 жыл бұрын
When overlanding - keep it minimalistic. I.e. - only bring/carry what you need to survive to the next day. Anything else than that isn’t needed. Minimalistic is the key.
@olenilsen4660
@olenilsen4660 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video - I think you did a good job on explaining how and where the different factors weigh in. Top content!
@marcoe14
@marcoe14 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video... For overlanding vehicles. To rate 4x4s I like the TFL channel sheet. 4x4 is so wide that you should be rating rock crawling capabilities, mud capabilities, snow, modifiying options to reach your goal, power to weight ratio,... And many many many things. As I said before... VERY NICE VIDEO... For overlanders.
@MarcHDJ81v
@MarcHDJ81v 2 жыл бұрын
And now we can all see why 79’s and 80 series are worth a future these days. Awesome video mate 👍
@toyotadiesel4970
@toyotadiesel4970 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good sum up, I do agree with most of it, maybe score the van a bit more, i've seen mitsubishi delicas doing well... There are high-roof live axle wagons exist :) Like the Y60 nissan patrol/safari and the 60-series land cruiser, both could have a high-roof option, there is quite a bit more room inside than a usual wagon and no disadvantages of the troopy. But they are rare beasts, of course..
@arefeshghi
@arefeshghi 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. You mentioned it is not biased, but this is one of those videos that can't be unbiased. As you mentioned yourself, it is biased based on your experience (not based on what car you have). Also, I'd consider 'dust everywhere', which is a problem with almost all UTEs /Pickups.
@rrrandommman
@rrrandommman 2 жыл бұрын
Jimny owner here, fully agree, I love it but you have to accept that small means less load carrying and you must find small versions of everything, that said, prrfect for me, only room for one vehicle here and it never lets me down.
@lukebrinsmead
@lukebrinsmead Жыл бұрын
Great video. I think storage accessibility would be a criteria worth talking about.
@jakedenteith2335
@jakedenteith2335 2 жыл бұрын
It all comes down to what you need, want and how you use it. What suits you may not suit me. Good stuff Ronny.
@alexhill_79
@alexhill_79 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is that the 4 vehicles that scored above 200 points are now pretty much only available new as the 76, 79 and 78 series cruisers.
@michaelhermans4753
@michaelhermans4753 2 жыл бұрын
If Ronnie did a survey of which type of 4wd most people own you will get a very different result It would be a duel cab Ute or wagon
@orenkipnis7058
@orenkipnis7058 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I stick to my VW SYNCRO camper, the best for me.
@dominiksinram9194
@dominiksinram9194 2 жыл бұрын
What would be the best on- and off-road car for a backpacker. Let’s they he/she wants to travel for 1 year around Australia.
@EARTHROMR
@EARTHROMR 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Would adding Petrol vs Diesel, and Auto vs Manual help people with vehicle choice? Whilst I may not agree 💯% with the scoring, I agree that my personal 4wd isn't as good as others, but it works for me. Keep up the good work
@markgardiner1767
@markgardiner1767 Жыл бұрын
....OOOHHH how I love my 1997 75 SERIES TROOPCARRIER. What an over engineered beauty💖💖👍👍
@rasta77-x7o
@rasta77-x7o 2 жыл бұрын
Someone with an IFS Wagon i totally agree, Troopy is the God level starting base.
@RoyFJ65
@RoyFJ65 2 жыл бұрын
For me and what I usually do, FJ 70 and FJ Cruiser, the later fantastic all rounder that go do either on or off road, the FJ70 is true workhorse.
@peregrinesmith6335
@peregrinesmith6335 7 ай бұрын
We have a Jeep Wrangler(short Wheel Base) and a Troopy. Th Jeep is fantastic off road, impossible on road, The Troopy is fantastic off-road, tolerable on road. For AWAY trips the Jeep is impossible~not enough room. The Troopy is fantastic.
@xavierdhotman7100
@xavierdhotman7100 2 жыл бұрын
A fair amount of thought into this and the troopy is definitely a very reasonable choice for an overall best because it dose fill the criteria very well. How I see it as a general purpose and overland vehicle a duel cab of any type is good, be it solid axle or ifs because of the load capacity and comfort for passengers. With all that being said if money wasnt an issue a troopy for me would be a vehicle i would have, then as a small play 4x4 the jimny is great but not a suited to long overland trips. As always really enjoy the content Ronny 👌🏽🤠
@Zelmann1
@Zelmann1 Жыл бұрын
Very good comparison. Also do one for engines.... there is a mix of good and awful engines out there. Some engines will give you 300,000 kms without major repairs while others will go 100K and have major overhauls every now and then.
@arsalanghaffari4627
@arsalanghaffari4627 2 жыл бұрын
That was ana awesome episode I thought the best would be a live axle wagon but guess second place is close enough
@justus.genstef
@justus.genstef Жыл бұрын
very cool episode! I was trying to score where my defender 130 would rank.. Was pretty good in my opinion. Troopy did well. not surprised.
@berndbehrens8872
@berndbehrens8872 Жыл бұрын
Mate, I have always enjoyed your videos. This time you've lost me. Ok, if you want to go around Australia, a Troopy might be a good choice. Your video probably appeals to all these people that want to drive this super capable, it will get me everywhere unstoppable vehicle. Reality is that most of us drive to and from work, do a weekend trip and if we're lucky, do three or four extended camping / weekend trips per year. I did the around Australia trip in a Subaru by the way and got everywhere the big boys went. Produced some very surprised faces in several camp spots. I recently actually wanted to buy a Troopy, loved the looks (still do, from the outside),until i drove it. It frankly drives like absolute crap! It is only acceptable if you are farmer John, don't have any expectations regarding roadhandling, performace, comfort, audio, creature comfort, fuel economy, ease of parking the damn thing and the list goes on. I was shocked, to say the least. This Toyota cult here in Oz is pure madness. I am surprised you guys don't have a Toyota church you attend to on Sundays. Well troopy on, I'm sure you all will, come hail or shine
@htoh310
@htoh310 2 жыл бұрын
Best factory 4wd is no doubt Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. Best of all worlds: comes with all 4wd goodies, plus the only convertible 4wd, plus quite modern. The rest are just agricultural trucks, which you need stuff with money only to get close to what Rubi has from factory
@stuiescampingadventures
@stuiescampingadventures 2 жыл бұрын
I have an old Pajero, Petrol and everything works fine in it. I used to own a brand new Navara and it got damaged on the tracks. 2 times I went out in it and both times damaged. Hence the Pajero. I did happen to go in a dual cab 79 series on the weekend. ( No electric windows) I did the same tracks in the afternoon in the Pajero as the 79 in the morning and its like the Dual cab was on Bitumen. The Pajero feels everything and you really have to drive the car. Sure its only a toy for me as I have a daily. But I feel like a real 4wdriver even thou having to take consideration the vehicle I'm in and my in-experience. I would love a troopy but im loving the old Pajero. I don't think it matters too much as long as you walk away from the day with a smile.
@chooseboost
@chooseboost 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ronnie thanks for the video. I like some more info on off-road ability of the troopy. Really like them but feel they may not suit the off-road driving I do due to high centre of gravity. Just as a side note. I’ve got a great Gen4 Pajero and it would be great to see it on a version of modified. ✌️
@davidmatthews1056
@davidmatthews1056 2 жыл бұрын
ASPW will grinning smuggly after watching this LOL. Something missing though, modern safety, which you may have taken into account in the 'family' section. Most of the solid axle vehicles would be low in this respect as they are based on ageing designs. Take solid axle wagons, does any sell new models anymore? In Aus its only the 76, incoming Ineos and Jeep. There's whole lot of road between home and tracks. Cool episode. Thanks
@Fernweh4x4andadventure
@Fernweh4x4andadventure 2 жыл бұрын
Troopy is exactly what I expected, I wanted to own one but initial cost and fuel, plus leaf hangers and yota tax💁🏼‍♂️. I owned an R51 Nissan Pathfinder with lift kit etc and although not quite the same, it just about did bloody everything really well! Cheap to buy cheap to run has 4 low and it’s Especially excellent on space for gear/sleeping kids dog etc etc. Highly underrated but practical vehicle in my opinion, buy the V9X if you can 💁🏼‍♂️
@sa2591-p5d
@sa2591-p5d 2 жыл бұрын
I’d agree if the troopy came with an auto box option…. Auto is just so much easier off road specially on the beach and you will be in traffic too.
@michaelhermans4753
@michaelhermans4753 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the main reason I’m put of them but it ticks a lot of boxes
@NiePieerdol
@NiePieerdol 2 жыл бұрын
For that price it should be available with auto. Having driven manuals all my life to finally buy an auto box, I'm not going back to a stick
@shaneharris6624
@shaneharris6624 2 жыл бұрын
Keen to hear more about the troopy offroad capabilities. Although there's heaps of them they seem to be used more as a tourer that can go offroad than a good 4by.
@philg2468
@philg2468 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned many 4wds over the past 40 years and my current Troopy came with front and rear diff locks, traction control, great clearance and live axles. Downsides compared to my previous 200series are the 200series has a wider track, so feels more stable on sideslopes and has better traction control but no locking diffs. Both are great offroad but 200 with a lift is a better rock crawler. Troopy is a better desert tourer - not as heavy, better on fuel and fantastic payload and range.
@psycopyro001
@psycopyro001 2 жыл бұрын
Something to think about with the fuel rating, I drive a 2016 vw transporter (nearly at GVM) as my work car and a 2017 VW amarok (nowhere near GVM) as my touring/4wd car. The van absolutely murders the amarok as far as fuel usage goes. I consistently get 1000km to the tank in the van. to get the same distance in the amarok I need to carry 3 jerry cans.
@pelzyy
@pelzyy 2 жыл бұрын
Sneak peek at the new bar work Ronny? Looks bloody good! When will see the refreshed cruiser? Modified 100??
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