Congratulations to Tiramis for making your video introduction coherent. Witnessing the original attempts on twitch was very entertaining
@donaldfarquar8 ай бұрын
Wow, what a clean intro. This Viper fellow is such a professional. Tiramis must have an easy life 👀
@lukasvideosify15968 ай бұрын
I didn't now the AI scene was so advanced.
@BalgaBear8 ай бұрын
There was a big push for AI way better than Microsofts default, that AI got adopted into the HD AI back in 2010-2012 Then more advancements, that went into definitive, and now we're here!
@David-cs9zo7 ай бұрын
Know not now Haha I'm that guy.Still virgin but you know who needs peaches right.
@frydog42178 ай бұрын
Would have been interesting to have a co caster who is familiar with aoe AI scripting and the aoe ai scripting scene. I'm sure we are missing out a bunch of details from the matches that people who aren't familiar won't notice
@themaximalbeing27258 ай бұрын
Take a look at the previous Rehoboam vs. Immortal on the aiscripter's twitch.
@Strelok2968 ай бұрын
The way you keep comparing the AI to Daut 🤣
@edmis908 ай бұрын
Just tried Immortal vs Extreme DE. It's so funny honestly how Immortal just toys against the Extreme DE with just groups of skirmishers everywhere _(after the initial scout rush ofc)_ 🤣 As someone who's struggling vs Extreme DE, seeing some measly skirmishers be it's undoing was so funny 🤣 TheViper, tbh, your thumbnail made me almost skip this video because it didn't look like AoE2 thumbnail - I just so happen to notice the channel name. Just a friendly feedback.
@Sasha-sd6jo8 ай бұрын
Where can I see that?
@pedropasquini43118 ай бұрын
I wish the AoE developers would put those AI into the ranked ladder so we could have a precise measurement of their ELO
@marcuspontius39678 ай бұрын
would love that too
@biocode44788 ай бұрын
I feel like you'd just have those who immediately know to counter the specific AIs dropping their ELO so they'd be an unfair challenge that lower ranked players deal with
@lazthegreat107 ай бұрын
i strongly disagree. Just let people play against it if they wish. Otherwise it looks like cheating, especially the archer micro
@marcuspontius39677 ай бұрын
@@lazthegreat10 A simple option: "I don't like ladder-games vs AI" and nobody is forced to play. Assume there would still be enough people who don't mind the AI
@JM-qu5sc8 ай бұрын
Love the color schemes for team games! Finally done right.
@davidnovak44868 ай бұрын
47:41 Did AI just snipe monk with treb? What an advanced script 11
@anhdunghisinh8 ай бұрын
AI abuse treb a lot, they even use treb to snipe ship
@anonymouscayh8 ай бұрын
It's seeming like Immortal is the better overall AI, given consistent winning until the grand final and the fact that it can play many civs and doesn't have excessive complaints about opposing walls and towers. Rehoboam is very good still, with that insane archer micro but again, one trick pony with a pocket build too, but only 2-3 civs makes it very limited to be countered by some styles and seems quite abusable.
@Ymgarl8 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the purple player bugging out in the second game was caused by the positioning for the archery range and the future TC: the intent was to add a mining camp but couldn't find room for it while still leaving space for the TC in castle
@mars.unreal8 ай бұрын
Would be cool to see those AIs playing ranked games lol. Lets see where they end up.
@marcuspontius39678 ай бұрын
That would indeed be so awesome. Interested people would have a good idea about the AI strength and the scripters would have feedback regarding bugs or flaws.
@edmis908 ай бұрын
When the day comes where I beat Extreme DE AI, I'll challenge immortal!
@ryansabin90988 ай бұрын
it would be incredibly fun to have a game mode where exo is controlled by an ai and army control was all player input. you could still override ai to control villagers but it would be like watered down age so we can all micro army and have a fun casual format
@holyn87 ай бұрын
ai vs ai is super interesting. MORE!
@Zif113258 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this video for 10,000 years
@KurtFan698 ай бұрын
cant wait to see you play against these AIs
@engineering_guy8 ай бұрын
Viper trashing his chat 😂😂😬😬😬. Awesome video though! Viper man you should do more casting... you really have so much insight that other actual casters don't provide
@ObiwanNekody8 ай бұрын
If Immortal was on random civ in the games that may have been why it choked.
@ObiwanNekody8 ай бұрын
Oh, that's awesome. I'm jelly that someone thought of a compiler for AI scripting language
@Monkeybone_7 ай бұрын
I think AI team games would be even more interesting if it was AIs developed by diferent people, teamming together against another team of AIs, for example reho teams up with immortal and needs to communicate what its doing
@akselst7 ай бұрын
5:00 Rehob is Daut confirmed
@manuchess20238 ай бұрын
I was wondering if the top players can beat those AI's
@dangmb011dpn78 ай бұрын
are they only working for arabia or can u play them on other maps too? what about maps with water?
@chrispaynter8 ай бұрын
Definitely interesting but when it gets to team games it gets difficult to remember which player is which with the different colours
@timoheinrich87638 ай бұрын
Yes, finally more Viper aginst AI on the horizon
@nikooyu84518 ай бұрын
when will RL method join AOE2DE?can't wait to see something like alpha_zero or things like SC2
@nicholasallan5738 ай бұрын
Just curious when we will start to learn meta from AI like in chess. Obviously AI micro is incomparable to humun micro. But surely AI will be able to optimise build orders, walling, unit composition etc for us?
@adamNZ20248 ай бұрын
It's not really an AI. It's just a computer following instructions of what to do written by a scripter. The AI doesn't "think" for itself or innovate new strategies. It just does what it's been told to do. The build orders it follows have been programmed by a human. For example, At the start of the game - build two houses When house are built - herd sheep
@jacobbos22088 ай бұрын
Loved this!!! Can't wait to see you crush immortal and reho!
@Connection-Lost8 ай бұрын
The other guy commentating sounds like Covid T-90
@Nomatterwhat698 ай бұрын
You write your comment like Chatonnec GPTion-Lost.
@ns-islandsroblox8 ай бұрын
That's t West he has a similar voice
@dannyd57338 ай бұрын
perhaps the villagers stop gathering at a set food value for what a standard boar should give, but since they are mayans the boar has food left.
@santiagocano62408 ай бұрын
the immortal ia is that human that made a Viper in the finals
@sssp30668 ай бұрын
after seeing this video I played against rehoboam and after couple of games I won. what do you think about elo of reho nearly?
@thewashh8 ай бұрын
So what’s your elo?
@sssp30668 ай бұрын
i really dont know my level. i am new to arabia metas. just copying from pros.@@thewashh
@method13138 ай бұрын
Reho needs more fallback options, to deal with bugged out units.
@victor601019 күн бұрын
I wish we had a ai that learns by playing with itself like we have stockfish in chess which is way better than us humans... it would be awesome seeing a 3k5 level ai playing aoe 2
@blainewalton12108 ай бұрын
How do you play these particular AI?
@pedext8 ай бұрын
0 apm. "Still better than daut"
@thiswillbeyournameacrossal21538 ай бұрын
18:29 The diss 🔞!
@ryansabin90988 ай бұрын
i read the name as "roboboom" and will forever call it that
@vaels56828 ай бұрын
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see deepmind's AI
@n00bnetrum8 ай бұрын
Which AI is best at Forest Nothing?
@midgardgamingMD8 ай бұрын
And now Viper vs AI! And GL vs KI's!
@nikkiyee73178 ай бұрын
This cool i want to challenge this ai
@Frost_Saber8 ай бұрын
Seriously would love to have an ai that can handle water and migration
@GreenhouseKeys8 ай бұрын
Good question about the AI detecting what you do, I've found vs. DE AI even on hard if I delete one of my walls that enemy couldn't see, they start charging when that happens anyway
@jacquesperk2548 ай бұрын
Wondering what the ELO of this AI would be on the human ladder...
@lukasvideosify15968 ай бұрын
Wow interesting content!
@henriquematias19868 ай бұрын
Are they allowed to update the AI during the tournament? That might explain the comeback?
@themaximalbeing27258 ай бұрын
No updates during the final round. The change in outcome was due to the civs that Immortal was given.
@The_Night_Panda8 ай бұрын
What TheMaximalBeing said. Additionally Reho was fairly unlucky in the semifinal where the first 3 games were decided by some rare scouting bugs which Reho didn't experience in the final.
@BreakerMoe8 ай бұрын
Phenomenal content. Inspiring.
@DarkPoetDCLXVI8 ай бұрын
How can i play against one of thus AIs?
@FullOilBarrel8 ай бұрын
can pros beat these ai?
@leocurious99198 ай бұрын
With ease. The buggy or idiotic way they react to raids mean you can absolutely destroy them that way alone.
@mrkirby86228 ай бұрын
Average player elo is around 1k. Pros are between 2.3k and 2.8k elo. These AIs are around 1.2k, maybe 1.3k max
@wemijei8 ай бұрын
even with proper micro nerding, AI would get overwhelmed. their decisions are too poor compared to any high elo player
@KaoticPhoenix8 ай бұрын
Anyone above average could probably beat them convincingly. Especially if they take advantage of their flaws.
@DmytroBogdan8 ай бұрын
I lived to the day when beating AI considered an accomplishment 😮
@afz902k8 ай бұрын
4v4 GL vs Reho let's go!
@Thunderstryk8 ай бұрын
can we have viper play against Rehoboam
@lazthegreat107 ай бұрын
Twest!
@Bogues_888 ай бұрын
Reho sux it should be forced to do random civ for all AI reho doing 2 mayan 2 persia is plain lame
@MOISECRIMI8 ай бұрын
👌
@S_Heavens8 ай бұрын
Heys Viper's editor, pls update this channels's playlist pls. Hasn't been updated for years now.