What is the Congregational Methodist Church?

[@mbathroom1]

1st. Last time I was this early they were Anglican

[@Ldgreggbell]

Last time I was this early John Wesley was on a ship with Moravians.

[@dominicskywalker]

yeah we were just a movement with constructive criticism to the church of England. But that made some people upset

[@sirrobertwalpole1754]

Lol

[@JRBWare1942]

I come from a town so small, even the Episcopalians bring snakes to church.

[@David-yw2lv]

Most Methodist Churches in my area have joined the Global Methodist Church.

[@nickswicegood4316]

Thank you for giving so much effort to explain all these different denominations. You’re providing a very important service to the Christian world. It is far too easy to talk past each other because we caricature those we disagree with rather than seek to fully understand a different position. Your unbiased and thorough work is worth its weight in gold. I’m happy to be a new subscriber. Peace.

[@peytonbradley5650]

CMC member here from Mississippi. Thanks for the vid.

[@unit2394]

Thanks for this. I have been wanting to learn more about the Congregational Methodist Church for a while but had difficulty finding many other resources online.

[@rogermetzger7335]

I've never been a member of a methodist congregation and I've never considered myself a methodist but the ways and extent that methodists have helped their fellow humans is beyond comprehension.

[@marcovau4902]

As a Baptist, I love to see that Methodism ain't dead

[@MrBattlestar10]

Can you do a video on the numbers of UMC churches that joined other Methodist denominations?

[@darreljones8645]

If you look at the chapter names (the words or phrases next to the video length) for this video, it's a good overview for how Joshua describes every church in these "explaining denominations" videos: History (of the denomination), core doctrines, sacraments (if any), scripture (including which, if any, books of the Apocrypha are accepted and how infallible the Bible is considered), creation & evolution (mostly concerned with whether evolution can be accepted by believers), original sin, salvation (where it comes from), Arminianism (namely, is it true that, "once saved, always saved"?), sanctification (is it acceptable, or even required?), spiritual gifts (are they available to modern believers? do believers speak in tongues?), end times (pre-, post-. or a-millennial?), marriage & family (is homosexuality or extramarital sex acceptable?), divorce & remarriage (acceptable or not?), abortion (always a sin, or okay in at least some circumstances?), worship style (high or low church?), alcohol (acceptable in moderation, or not?), tithing & giving (required, or at least encouraged?), the church (what is its nature? is there only "one true church"? can churches of other denominations be cooperated with?), church government (episcopal, presbyterian, or congregationalist?), and statistics (how many members and churches? where?).

[@StevenOrdway]

Wow , this is a impressive group of churches! The UMC church I used to go to stayed in the UMC, and now is is closing down forever in Dec 2024. I sure wish the CMC was up here in Michigan, It sounds like a wonderful denomination!!😊

[@BramptonAnglican]

Great video. Grew up in the BME church here in Canada. A black congregation.

[@someoneveryclever]

How is the BME doing today?

[@brucealanwilson4121]

@@BramptonAnglican Your equivalent of the AME, AMEZ, and CME?

[@BramptonAnglican]

@@brucealanwilson4121 the AEMC. It was started by Harriet Tubman and my great great grandfather.

[@BramptonAnglican]

@@someoneveryclever I’m honestly not to sure. I’m in the Anglican Church now. Also I live in a different city from where I grew up in.

[@joshuakarr-BibleMan]

Thanks, Joshua.

[@coleymoke6709]

Joshua, would you consider doing a video on the Reformed Charismatic churches?

[@GalenCurrah]

This description makes be feel ... evangelized.

[@dawnellafreeman4860]

😂

[@JRBWare1942]

The part of the country I'm from is overwhelmingly Methodist, but I've never heard of this denomination before. There are no Congregational (or UCC) churches whatsoever in my part of the country. Then I started seeing TV commercials for a "Congregational Church" about fifty miles from me. I looked at their website, and it said they were Wesleyan in their theology. I still haven't figured out who they are, but they are not part of the Congregational Methodist Church. Their website calls them a "Congregational Missionary Church." If that's the name of a denomination, I'm unable to locate it on the internet.

[@unit2394]

Could you do videos on various Continuing Anglican denominations? ACC, APA, UECNA, APCK, etc.

[@elbertsorrell8394]

It would be interesting to see you do a segment on the Funda😊Fundamental Methodist Conference in Ash Grove, Missouri. It is similar to the Congregational Methodist Church but with a few slight differences.

[@woody1320]

Thank you for your work. Never heard of this group only the UMC unfortunately.

[@stephanottawa7890]

1:51 What would Mr. Wesley think of dedication? It does not seem to go with Methodist theology. It is more of an individual, almost selfish way of looking at salvation: I am going to decide when God is going to act (or not). Or am I missing something according to Methodist tradition?

[@tomsmith48]

It honestly (to me) feels more consistent with Arminian theology, which has a lot more focus on free will in salvation.

[@stephanottawa7890]

@@tomsmith48 Thanks, but I must do some research about baptism according to Dr. Wesley. If he allowed for both infant baptism and a Christian reform of life for adults, there must be a reason.

[@fjhforever]

Hi Joshua, could you do a video on the North American Lutheran Church (NALC)? Thank you!

[@ReadyToHarvest]

Coming soon!

[@fjhforever]

@@ReadyToHarvest Thanks! Can't wait!

[@mistyhaney5565]

Would you do videos on the older denominations, like the Coptic, and Ethiopian?

[@stephanottawa7890]

10:15 Would Pastor Mike say that same thing to the Lord Jesus and the Apostles?

[@dancalkins97]

Not sure of your concern

[@stephanottawa7890]

@@dancalkins97 The Lord Jesus and the Apostle drank wine and enjoyed it.

[@paulcohen6727]

Do you have any videos on denominations that allow women in roles of leadership?

[@ReadyToHarvest]

My videos are not sorted by that detail, but there are many videos on this channel on denominations that hold that position.

[@joshuas1834]

As a member of the Independent Christian churches I was surprised to see how much in common we have with this Methodist group. I was wondering if there are any other groups out there (aside from restorationist churches) that believe in believers baptism ( in exclusion of infant baptism) as a sacramental means of grace. I've heard rumors of a Scottish Baptist group that held this view but have been unable to track them down.

[@AndrewRayGorman]

It seems many former UMC churches from the south joined them instead of the new GMC, although Im not sure what the percentage was.

[@SantaFe19484]

There are so many Methodist denominations, I can't keep track of them.

[@ngcebomhlongo4950]

Interesting!

[@unit2394]

Could you also do a video on the Association of Independent Methodists?

[@RonJohn63]

Lots in Alabama and Mississippi, lots n east Texas, but few in Louisiana (and those are near east Texas)..

[@sr7312]

Interesting. I have a pocket of 4 of these within an hour of my house. Low-church Methodists with dispensational tendencies? Is that an accurate summary?

[@David-yw2lv]

Most Methodist Churches in my area have joined rhe Global Methodist Church.

[@kmc6506]

I've noticed in my area (central Arkansas) several churches have removed "United" from their signs. However, I don't know if they are Global. Sadly, the largest Methodist Church near me is remaining UMC.

[@David-yw2lv]

@@kmc6506 Three in my area have some the same thing

[@ajb129]

9:54 🤔🧐🤨

[@GhostofTradition]

wow that logo....

[@mistyhaney5565]

The Bible does not say that it's bad to consume alcohol. I understand that some people believe that consuming alcohol is bad, but their beliefs don't make the Bible say it. Just like the Bible doesn't claim one man and one woman exclusively for life is what marriage is.

[@mistyhaney5565]

I still don't understand how Christianity came to be "salvation through faith alone." If salvation is granted simply by way of faith what is the purpose of Judgement Day?

[@kmc6506]

Judgment day isn't for God to "decide" our fate. God is all knowing and could sort all that out in an instant. Rather, my understanding is, that Judgment Day is to demonstrate to the rest of the universe the reasons why people end up where they do. Also, I believe there are different degrees of reward in Heaven and different degrees of punishment in Hell. Maybe Judgment Day will be to assign each person to the degree of reward or punishment they have coming to them. I'm not a Bible expert or a theologian, so do your own research.

[@microdesigns2000]

Imagine leaving a church because you don’t believe in sanctification. Does the Lord leave his people to wallow in the fire of sinful living? Or does he pluck them free and put new clothes on them?

[@rayfridley6649]

One other Methodist spin-off: The Methodist Prostestant Church. Governance is similar to the Presbyterian Church.

[@tonyu5985]

They are all Wesleyans to me, or else my head starts spinning.

[@qb101]

KJV only is such a weird stance to take. It's like they can't imagine a world in which we have learned anything whatsoever in the last 113 years.

[@chrisray9653]

Unless they have apostolic succession I don't get why all of the "conservative" Protestant denominations don't just clump together. The liberals the same way.

[@christiansmakingmusic777]

What percentage of the Pharisees repented and believed in Jesus? There is a tremendous danger in all this ecclesiastical professionalism that a large number of us will find ourselves shut out when He comes again, though we have the reputation, as the Pharisees did, of being the ones who know, claim to know, and/or insist we do know the truth.

[@ElasticGiraffe]

It's like the Wesleyans had a congregationalist baby with the Independent Fundamental Baptists.

[@claryp1509]

Except they still baptize babies and don’t only baptize by immersion.

[@peytonbradley5650]

@@claryp1509 to clarify I go to a CMC church and it’s Credobaptist. There are CMC churches that do baptize infants and those that don’t. It depends on the beliefs of the clergy to an extent.

[@Bedwyr777]

Need to add the Nazarene Church, Assembly of God, Salvation Army, and Four Square Gospel denominations are also Methodist

[@stephenbailey9969]

Schism is a sin in itself. The Spirit's desire is filial unity. All denominations that went into schism in order to collude with slavery or segregation are in need of repentance, as some already have. Creating schism in order to reject the Wesleyan principle of episcopal discipline is another decision in need of repentance. No need to go backward in time, but the first step to real recovery is to admit one has had a problem.

[@jimthompson5844]

False and false. Was it a sin for the Christian’s to schism from the synagogues? Was it a sin for the East and west to split? Further your editorializing and preaching of the social gospel where you wrongfully condemn slavery which the gospel never does is entirely unneeded. Calling people to a false repentance is wicked.

[@naelbi8870]

​@@jimthompson5844Was the east splitting a sin ? YES Was Protestant split a sin? YES Our Lord built ONE Church on His apostles and their successors, not tens of thousands built by anybody!

[@stephenbailey9969]

@@jimthompson5844 The early Jewish believers continued to attend the synagogues, and then their own gatherings on the first day, until they were expelled from the synagogues toward the end of the first century. Enmity, strife, dissensions, divisions are part of the works of the flesh described in Paul's letter to the Galatians, chapter 5. As for slavery, the Spirit informs us that all are equal in Christ, there is neither 'slave nor free', no matter what conditions exist in this age. The early Christians were not social reformers, but they were called to show brotherly love and create a better community with each other. And if a denomination is going to claim descent from Wesley, then it should recognize the anti-slavery impulse arising from those theological roots, as well as commitment to episcopal polity.

[@michaelfisher7170]

@@jimthompson5844 and putting slavery on an altar because god never got around to saying "holy me that's so wrong" isn't a sin? lol.

[@ElwoodPDowd1970]

>> Creating schism in order to reject the Wesleyan principle Did the Methodists who left Anglicanism after the Wesley brothers' deaths "creat[e] schism?" Heck, did the Anglican Church in separating from Rome also do this? By your curious metric Methodism is already a schism from a schism, or so it appears.

[@Dilley_G45]

So they support orthodox doctrine while having women as pastors. Yeah right

[@Hark1677]

Good to see Methodists going more conservative. Maybe they can go even further and embrace Whitefield’s theology. That would be a great revival.

[@joer5627]

Ol’ George was a stellar Preacher. Not sure 10 people would know he even had a theology.

[@Hark1677]

@@joer5627He did and it wasn’t no Arminianism.

[@peytonbradley5650]

@@Hark1677 you are right. Whitfield was an infralapsarian Calvinist.

[@mikdan8813]

Nobody: Protestants: let's split, gang

[@Hark1677]

As if non-Protestants never disagree on points of doctrine.

[@gazoontight]

28th!

[@lavieestlenfer]

Science deniers.

[@michaelfisher7170]

the sloganizing that ends with "it takes more faith to believe in X than it does to believe in talking snakes, donkeys, arks full of animals and resurrection" is an immediate signal to just turn off what's being discussed. a speaker saying that isn't worth engaging with.

[@myhandlethisis]

I’d be curious to hear some more of what you mean by that. Is someone not worth listening to who states that it requires a larger step of faith to believe that God does not exist than it does to believe that He does?

[@gregshumway7610]

I wish I could like, watch, enjoy, and recommend your videos to my family and friends, since I and many people I know would be an interested and natural audience. Yet, in at least a couple of your videos, you claim that members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints such as myself are not Christians, which claim I find to be deeply offensive, prejudiced, biased, and misinformed. Unsubscribing and asking KZbin to stop recommending.

[@ReadyToHarvest]

I never did that, but okay

[@Rotary_X]

I'm also a member of the church. This channel has always been fair and balanced when discussing The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Please do not spread lies. Keep up the good work, Ready to Harvest.

[@Noone765]

The “Methodist” church has failed. It is no longer Christian.

[@GrammyGottaGo]

Are you Methodist?