WHAT IS THE FASTEST CAR IN F1 23?

[@zyndoggo]

Respect for all the drivers who have died for this experiment.

[@kukujiaoboii1331]

Drivers? What about our lovely cameraman? 😪

[@Sweezy_Il]

Jarno is the type of person to test the fastest top speed of the other teams

[@cantripleplays]

Even if he was actually on the f1 grid

[@dirkdoedel]

huh? yes, he just did that. did you not watch the video? LMAO

[@Sweezy_Il]

@@dirkdoedel where did i say he didn’t did this?

[@dirkdoedel]

@@Sweezy_Il you literally commented what he was doing in the video, why?

[@Sweezy_Il]

@@dirkdoedel it’s literally in the title too

[@rinkwilbrink653]

Each team can build their own gearbox but they're allowed to purchase them from the engine manufacturer, including the rear suspension

[@blackbee_v8]

Aston Martin for example is using the gearbox from Mercedes

[@LeonardoAld]

Yes, Jarno. You are right about Mclaren. They started the century as the official Mercedes F1 team, but got dumped in 2010, left the Mercedes power unit in 2014 and used Honda from 2015 to 2017, before swapping to Renault for two years (the best years they've had in ten years) and finally swapped back at Merc in 2021

[@RLS_Basmati_f1]

@Jarnoopmeer..30scanmer

[@lufens53]

Weren't they using merc's engine 2020?

[@LeonardoAld]

@@lufens53 no, they started using them for 2021

[@Sticktothemodels]

Merc engine was no slouch in 2021. Lando should’ve easily pulled out wins in the power tracks of Spa and Sochi on top of Riccardio’s Monza victory, but well, you know

[@danielcosta6289]

@@Sticktothemodels Spa wasnt even a race man

[@FelipeSousa21]

2:37 Hey, that's me XD

[@Baconism]

When looking at the gear ratios in the game files, the RedBull has lower ratios for most of its gears (longer gears), while Mercedes for example has the shortest gears. When changing those values to make the gears longer I was able to make the Merc get to the same as Redbull for topspeed with 366 km/h, when I lengthened the ratios for the redbull I was able to get it to a top speed of 369 km/h. All this makes me wonder how quick a maxed out F1 world car can go on straights

[@godzvnm]

it would be the same as the red bull as the shift points seem to be similar or identical. since the shifts and ratios are basically identical between the rb and f1 world car it just means that the f1 world car will reach 366 kmh (the limiter) before a normal red bull would.

[@Baconism]

@@godzvnm Yes I know, I meant I wonder how fast could the f1 world car go if it was maxed AND had its gears changed to be longer, if I had to guess probably north of 370km/h.

[@kamil800111]

Bottas hit 378km/h in 2016 Baku

[@godzvnm]

ohhh okay yeah. i mean the limits of the gane at least in gear ratios would probably be the alpine top speed then or maybe a tiny bit higher and the upgrades would just help to reach it faster. so probably around the range of 374 to 380.

[@petervenios4745]

How did you change the gear ratios? I can’t stand the merc cars topping out at 351

[@lennard1202]

the rev limit in F1 is limited to 15k rpm but due to efficiency every team keeps the revlimit down to 13krpm

[@cosmo1084]

more like 13.5k. mercedes IRL have very short ratios, at 328 kmh they are already above 12k rpm. at 360 they'd be past 13k, and it's plausible you'd need more in monza. In the past mercedes PU were limited to around 13.5 as said.

[@godzvnm]

@@cosmo1084 no every team limits it to 13k and no more. its been like that since the start of the hybrid era. and it isnt negotioable as only 1 set of gear ratios are allowed to be used for the full season. so the twams decide what would be the best gear ratio for each gear and and they have to use those ratios for every race. if they were allowed to changed they would used higher gear ratios at street circuits than they would at a regular track.

[@cosmo1084]

@@godzvnm dude just search "perez 370 kmh" you will see in 2016 he was at 13100 rpm, and still no sign of any limiter. Nowadays cars have shorter gear ratios which would limit top speed at around 358 kmh for mercedes if they had a limiter set at 13.000, but they don't. Limiter is probably at around 13.500 as it always was.

[@san-joshuabarrett]

I saw somewhere some long time ago that teams limited it to 13k rpm the most because of the fuel flow limiters and they actually make less power after 13k due to that. Its all in the name of efficiency as your comment stated. I wish they were able to change gear ratios from track to track though to see how much change in lap times it would bring. Or maybe two difference sets of gear ratios, one tailored to high top speed tracks and the other geared towards low speed and multiple slow corners.

[@cosmo1084]

@@san-joshuabarrett difference would be minimal, which is why there's only 1 ratio. If it would be big problem teams would shout up and down the pitlane we need to change the rules, but we've never heard one thing about this topic, so its a non-issue

[@Carpythesharky]

Crazy to think that back in the early 2000's without DRS the cars were going 360kph+ at Monza in race trim.

[@patrck3997]

Loving the f1 23 content Jarno

[@mcbeaulieu]

You're totally right, the limit is 15k. But as you mentionned, the engine torque caps just a tad over 12k, so teams have no interest into running higher revs. But the rules do say that the gas engines have to run at 15k max, so it's quite weird to see 13k in the game. On the other hand, I'm not surprised at all #Codies

[@godzvnm]

the teams dont have to have the engines run at 15k max. thats the highest the regs allow them to but the teams can choose how many revs their engine can reach up to the allowed 15k rpm.

[@Ivan-iq8bu]

Speed is not accurate with Williams being the slowest here

[@mcbeaulieu]

@@godzvnm that's what I mean. They don't have to but they can. Hence why I find the 13k limit in the game rather strange

[@CMK1097]

Correct. Also the fuel flow over a lap makes almost impossible to run such high revs even during a single quali lap. Unless we have changes to the engines or fuel flow restrictions we won't see engines go over 13k

[@godzvnm]

@@mcbeaulieu well the the teams in real life limit their enginws at 13k. thats why the limit in the game is 13k aswell.

[@MuhammadNiz007]

Speed is accurate if they took the data from Jeddah. Because Merc were like 24kph slower than Red bull there. Incredible to see that team is now just 2 - 4 KPH slower on top speed ever since the Monaco update

[@dante2804]

They didn't do this based on data. Mercedes, Williams and Aston Martin have their top speeds "bricked" by the gear ratios. If you play Career mode, even with the RnD upgrades the top speed won't improve.

[@pizzadriver]

you know about teams using different setups, right..?

[@san-joshuabarrett]

@@dante2804 I wish they were able to change gear ratios from track to track though to see how much change in lap times it would bring. Or maybe two difference sets of gear ratios, one tailored to high top speed tracks and the other geared towards low speed and multiple slow corners

[@MaxMustermann-c7g]

Bro, after finishing Monza: "Next Rival Thomas Ronhaar" 😂

[@hussamhakim4977]

its based on the manufacturer's engine mapping, but that can me selected by also the customer team. meaning Haas can map 1st gear at 55 kph while Ferrari can map it 60 or 65. these fine details are driver based, the team doesn't really care what gear u use as long as it works.

[@dante2804]

It's been brought up in the game's forums that Aston Martin, Williams and Mercedes have a lot less revs than the rest of the field. Don't think Codies acknowledged this so they might never fix it.

[@stevenjoseph6048]

Genuine question, but is that why Aston is switching to Honda in 2026?

[@rafaeldb35]

@@stevenjoseph6048i think aston is switching engines for the same reasons RB did. If they really are to fight for championships, they gotta have their own engines, not buy it for the rival teams.

[@jammyhashbrown44]

In real life it’s pretty noticeable that the Merc gearbox used in the Aston and Williams has shorter ratios than the others while McLaren use their own gearbox so it’s used probably to mimic real life

[@godzvnm]

not less revs, just shorter gear ratios

[@san-joshuabarrett]

@@stevenjoseph6048 They are switching because they can have an engine tailored to their overall car package which will gain them some lap time. Customer teams have to run their engines similar to their sellers and it may not fit their philosophy perfectly. Hence why Merc cant just copy RBs downwash philosophy nor suspension set ups.

[@Zipzapzak10]

My favorite KZbinr on it again

[@layzbr3438]

Mercedes Aston Martin and Williams are using the same gearbox in reallife

[@Chikn853]

2 questions: Why didn’t you use the actual RBR? Why didn’t you use 0-0 wings

[@abnfalcon3901]

Mclaren uses Merc Engine but designs its own Gearbox inhouse, That might be the reason for that little extra top speed with the Gear ratios AM and Williams use the exact same Mercedes Gearbox, that's the reason for the same top speeds

[@avijoydasbhowmick9820]

Hey Jarno, you are correct got it spot on, The Aston and the Williams use Merc engine, gearbox and rear suspension. Whereas Mclaren just takes the engine from merc the gearbox is in-house built by Mclaren that why the gear difference is there.

[@tedpowertrain]

The aero efficiency of the mercedes has improved a lot when drs open so the game may not be accurate

[@Mour1ada]

Jarno in the ferrari colours kinda looks nice wtf

[@Atlas.Brooklyn]

Ferrari colors look good on anyone brother. That isn't a dig at Jarno but like, it's red and black ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@stevenjoseph6048]

Why did Jarno Cookmeer expose Williams setup for the last 2 season. Albon is not happy with the cook using his recipes like this lol.

[@jakedavis8898]

Williams is literally so quick on a straight

[@reecekumar4053]

But it’s a bag of wank everywhere else

[@TY-kf9wv]

would be interesting to see the top speed of fully upgraded f1 world car

[@godzvnm]

would be the same as red bull as f1 world car and red bull have basically identical gear ratios, at least from what ive tested.

[@Murthi22]

@@godzvnm What about like Alpine in Carrier mode?

[@Gimmy104_69]

I tried alpine' s top Speed with some corner cutting in LAS Vegas , i reached the limiter (373 kph)

[@daanedwin1442]

Its the gear ratios that limit the cars mostly. Mclaren has Merc engine as well but they dont use the same gearbox as Merc AM and Williams. This can be seen in the handling files as well. Haas and Ferrari have same topspeed as they use same gearbox as well

[@tukino9124]

For the engine RPM, if you go any higher than 12k RPM, u wont gain any power because FIA limits team to an specific amount of fuel that is put in the engine, so going higher than 11-12k is useless. But if you take away that limitation they could go much faster

[@d3m0ngains54]

This outro is just on another level 😏

[@kevintaddo]

the limiter by regulations can be up to 15k rpm but teams limit it at 13 (usually) to save fuel

[@Carlife0830]

Yeah you don't make any more power by revving to 15k rpm, so teams limit the revs

[@laurcrp2923]

Do a race in Monaco with this setup! Or any other track

[@cdavidclones]

I’d love for someone to make a mod that gets rid of the limiter in like my team, imagine the top speeds you could achieve on a 0-0 wings setup

[@user-kj9iy7fk5i]

as for the rpm. the regulations allow up to 15k. but because of the limit of the fuel everything above 12k/13k is just less efficient so the teams put the limiter down

[@Lups-fk5qr]

Williams was the fastest car on the straight in Canada, so idk if they put up the config. for Williams in the Mclaren

[@WhiskeyOnFire]

Mclaren use their own gearbox. Aston and Williams uses Mercs. In terms of the limiter. Teams are allowed a limiter up to 15k RPM, but most run a lower limiter as it creates less wear, and their fuel flow is capped to the same as 10.5K RPM. It simply doesnt make sense to turn the engines to 15k rpm

[@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168]

Aston Martin and Williams use the Mercedes Gearbox. But Mclaren make their own Gearbox.

[@wharris123184]

1:22 RIP Jarno Opmeer 2:29 RIP Jarno Opmore 3:26 RIP Parno Popmeer

[@Sticktothemodels]

Lewis engine in Brazil ‘21 was redlining at 14.5k rpm, but that was turned up. Probably 1-2k lower

[@nxthxun]

On previous f1 games, the engine redline was 13,500 rpm. Now I don't understand why codemasters cap it at 13,000 rpm

[@cadet15]

Thanks. I was wondering this yesterday

[@CertifiedSlamboy]

2:15: “Next rival: Thomas Ronhaar” 💀

[@0xymfzzty0]

Jarno goatmere, just watched Bahrain, you are the goat

[@marksill2416]

jarno hates red bull that much he tested the speed of their car in a merc xd

[@tezzaupnorth]

Do the highest down force on the same straight to see which engine has the most torque.

[@ryanchivwara5013]

It wouldn't be equal since each car would have different aero efficiency

[@jw550w0r9pw]

04:31 Teams can buy the gearbox of their engine supplier

[@ashooaway]

The reason why the McLaren is faster than the AM & Mercedes is that currently AM has its gearboxes from Mercedes from a deal sparked dueing the racing point era. Whilst McLaren moved to Mercedes in 2021 and have their own gearbox

[@MuhammadNiz007]

😅 Both the Aston and William buy there gearbox

[@remilacroix122]

Mclaren make their own gearbox but the other can choose their own gear ratio and they all have to keep them in all track

[@gp2jm]

Yes McLaren is using their own gearbox but Aston and Williams buys gearboxes from Merc so the gear ratio is different on McLaren from other Merc engine cars

[@kamilex5]

McLaren is faster than other Mercedes Teams because they build their own gearbox.

[@XDutchMaikel]

Gefeliciteerd met je WOR winst maat❤

[@doubleboy2388]

The Merc is a slug 🐛

[@5tuartGuy]

the rev limit for the engines is 15k, but you can't reach it as the fuel flow limit isn't high enough to fuel the engine for that many revs

[@cosmo1084]

you could reach it easy in lower gears, but engines are not bult to withstand so much rpm, so they limit them at around 13.5k.

[@guyjacobs6050]

Jarno, Aston purchases its gearboxes from Merc so ig the game keeps them as the same ratios. IDK what the engineers use irl.

[@deangelobailey5863]

The real question is will your top speed be capped at 351 forever if you choose a Mercedes engine in my team?

[@papasauce234]

the max rpm is 15k but all the teams limit it to 13k because you gain literally nothing from going at 15k rpm and the gearing + aero drag doesn't really allow you to go to 15k to begin with

[@MrYuhating]

The is beginning of the video should have been done in a Williams. That's basically what Alex Albon was driving in Canada.

[@amanvaghasiya8585]

Thanks brother....

[@BeastlyGamerr]

Is it illegal for you to drive the redbull?

[@productproducer664]

You should test what's faster: understeer vs oversteer setup

[@Desovec]

The one you can handle the most

[@productproducer664]

@@Desovec then do 0-0 vs 50-50 wings on every track

[@Skye886]

Someone did it in F1 22 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWGslWChoN54oNUsi=0x4v6DnnWcPiUKL_

[@1AngryPanda]

Aston buys the full back off the car from Mercedes. Same like Haas from Ferrari. Explains the similar speeds. McLaren builds own gearbox, same like Alfa.

[@DaylightDigital]

The game not being accurate is the best explanation, Haas and Williams should be so much faster

[@rf-theo1pascale749]

Gg for WOR today, Jarno!!

[@xmudyy1178]

not gonna lie the ferrari engine sounds like a toothbrush

[@scopestacker9787]

F1 cars could theoretically go up to 20k rpm but they are limited to 15k

[@Lamp-iw3gl]

current engine rules allow 15k rpm max

[@scopestacker9787]

@@Lamp-iw3gl yes, but they can technically reach 20k

[@godzvnm]

@@scopestacker9787 thats old engines. these v6 engines would not be able to reak 20k rpm at all.

[@godzvnm]

@@Lamp-iw3gl thats what it says in the regs but no team has their engine or gear ratios to go up to 15k rom. they limit it at 13k as just before or just after 12k rpm the engine starts dragging and you no longer gain time and actually start losing time and speed.

[@narvin3]

Why didn't you use ERS? Just wondering

[@dianamaioru497]

Is this the Mercedes before or after the Monaco updates? I have a feeling the games hasn't updated the car models yet, so the in-game Mercedes is not as fast as the real life Mercedes now is after the update.

[@basdevaal9370]

Before.

[@dianamaioru497]

@@basdevaal9370 Thanks, that explains it. Hope Jarno does another video after the F123 update!

[@basdevaal9370]

@@dianamaioru497 yeah. I think they based the car performance on Bahrain only. Red Bull good but not unbeatable Than Ferrari than Mercedes and Aston. Than Alpine and then the other 5 teams close to eachother. So their will be soon a update were EA will update the performance of the cars. Red Bull will be quicker, same for Aston and a bit for Merc. Ferrari will be downgraded a bit I think. I hope Jarno will make a video, but not sure. If the changes are big I'm sure he will.

[@itsegi]

Jarno already leaking his esport setup

[@jarnoopmeer]

😂😂

[@zeofyy7992]

the alpine will go 374KPH Just an fyi. you need a tow but it will do it easy with it. super op when doing top speed tracks while using realistic cars

[@theguywhoishim123]

Aston will have an agreement with honda soon if I'm not mistaken

[@obione51499]

So I think Aston Martin has the same top speed as Mercedes cause they buy Mercedes’ gearbox. You can even tell it seems to have less drag because it reached 351 quicker than the Merc did 13:27 oh he said it anyway

[@denisk3794]

mercedes supply gearboxes to both aston and williams, but mclaren make their own. hence why all aston merc and williams stop at 351

[@adamn7125]

You're correct the real limit is 15k

[@godzvnm]

in the regs they say the limiter can be 15k but the cars actually use a limiter of 13k because after about 12k rpm or just before the engine stops pushing and you start losing time and speed.

[@sverresundby4821]

Can you make a setup tour and review a bit of your gear?

[@alexpernea273]

Does the game have the W14 in the state it is now? As in does it have the car with the upgrades after Monaco? It seems way slower than it actually is in reality

[@cadet15]

I called Haas getting 363. They epically chew through tyres, and have drag but the Ferrari engine is powerful. Edit: Williams should switch engine suppliers. They could leave the bottom of the field with even a Renault engine.

[@LoudestHoward]

"Next Rival: Thomas Ronhaar" hehe

[@jensendrieghe3729]

You should use this setup if your my team car gets to good

[@sahilgoel32]

Haas shares all the possible parts from Ferrari

[@Petidani0330]

Indeed, F1 cars' official rev limit is 15k. Of course noone's EVER reached it since the introduction of the hybrid engines, mainly because of the fuel flow limitation (you know, the one that Ferrari conveniently bypassed in 2019). When one of the Force Indias (I think it was Perez) reached 370 kph in Mexico in 2015, his RPM was only 13 100, not even close to 15k. I personally don't like this in modern F1 cars. Feels like we're back in the 70s, when drivers were forbidden to rev their cars to the limit, because they would've weared down their engine too fast.

[@mcbeaulieu]

That reminds me of the long gearing Mercedes (up until Monza) and Force India used in 2014. That would keep engine revs lowish compared to shorter gears, with an 8th gear that could be used as overdrive on longer straights (Nico used it once in China and It was de Facto at the end of the main straight at Monza iirc). But from Singapore onwarda Mercedes used the gearing everyone else had since Melbourne, and Force India made the switch in 2015.

[@Petidani0330]

@@mcbeaulieu But they can't change the gear ratios mid-season though. Or back in 2014 they could?

[@user-zp3xc4to1t]

Brake front wing completely, put on hards and try again

[@unknownmxtheo6251]

I think in this video he wants to test the top speed of each team

[@Haltzo]

The fastest car in f1 23 is the one Jarno is driving

[@papasauce234]

All of the teams make their own gearbox besides Aston iirc, and maybe Haas I'm not sure

[@classgroup1565]

Mec need to put a redbull gearbox in their car

[@atomaticom1821]

I wonder if you could get even better results with someone else giving you slipstream on purpose?

[@void_snw]

Wait why would you raise the front, wouldn't that just create a bigger footprint and thus more drag?

[@pasy626xx5]

Years Operating principle RPM limit 2022-2025 4-stroke piston Unrestricted 2014-2021 15,000 rpm 2009-2013 18,000 rpm

[@The_Devil_Riser]

You should try again but with max wings and minimum rear ride height

[@MiniMarkoff]

Put jarno in a Williams and he’ll still find a way to make it the fastest car

[@faustinaadu2284]

Imagine using this low downforce setup in MTC/ Co OP/ League Races😂

[@SkProductions56]

I bet this Mercedes engine thing is not anything to do with reality. Rather that Codies/EA just didnt bother to change the McLaren ratios from the older games where they had Renault or Honda engines.

[@2ayous]

Is there something in your contract about not driving the redbull?😅

[@quidin7551]

las vegas 0 wings open lobby challenge

[@mit1s]

I need my next relationship be as strong as that tecpro barrier.

[@jarnoopmeer]

😂😂

[@joerdi6596]

Watching the vid while eating spareribs

[@cyferr]

the williams setup

[@michaeljoefox]

Can anyone explain why a higher front ride height would cause an increase in top speed? I’m not doubting the guy with all the lap records, just can’t find a good explanation.

[@Skye886]

Lower ride height means more downforce generated by ground effect therefore lower speed, vice versa

[@michaeljoefox]

@@Skye886 In F123, at least as far as I can tell, a lower ride height decreases drag therefore increasing lap time. It also explains in the description of what the ride height does in game. At least in the F123 ps4 version of the game I play. The higher the ride height, the more drag, the slower I go.

[@Jurassic_IWNL]

Max top speed setup still has less understeer than F1 22

[@sonson381]

Aston uses the same gearbox as Mercedes. McLaren uses Mercedes engines but they make their own gearbox. The Williams top speed isn't accurate because they have higher top speeds than Merc

[@gd19111]

I did 364 in Ferrari with slipstream and DRS 💀