What is the Fundamental Problem of Pakistan? - Syed Muzammil | Abbas Haidar | ViewPoint #48

[@syedmuzammilofficial7067]

Thanks for having me, Abbas. Enjoyed the discussion. Best wishes to your audience. Cheers.

[@poulamidas6559]

Sir,lots of respect for u from India 🇮🇳. Happy independence day to u in advance for 14th august.

[@jamshedfbc]

Keep up the good work.

[@fahadhameed7513]

Syed Muzammil you are one of the sane voice as we have in Pakistan

[@ashariqbal9915]

Excellent discussion sir 👏

[@wajahatmalik8807]

apka shukriya k ap aye😇❤👍🏾

[@musifine2922]

When you start reading Pakistan's history, you will laugh if you are not Pakistani and you will be depressed if you are Pakistani. ~Prashant Dhavan Sir

[@Lyallpuriya]

No, as a Pakistani, I feel proud reading authentic Pakistan's history, not the Indian propaganda.

[@kanishkkumar5431]

@@Lyallpuriya pakistanis only know pakistani propaganda history. ..like making invaders as hero😂😂😆😆😆

[@Lyallpuriya]

@@kanishkkumar5431 Sure, they are invaders for NaPak Kafirs like you but they are our heroes, who built one of the greatest Islamic empires on the face of the earth and destroyed the pedophilic cult of superstitions known as 'Hinduism'.

[@kanishkkumar5431]

@@Lyallpuriya ohh ..that's why your mother and sisters are crying for 1 kg of atta today . ..hahahah ...lol islamic empire 😂

[@kanishkkumar5431]

@@Lyallpuriya those invaders destroyed you and your ancesters. My ancesters were brave that's I am hindu today. .... and u r third class converted chussalams an followers of muhhmad rap. Ist who did sex with 9 year old girl 😆😆😆

[@HarrisSultanAtheist]

Excellent, just brilliant! It’s always insightful to listen to Muzammil.

[@siyasimaza5893]

Gustakhy Rasool agya 😂😂😂

[@prashantkhanal62]

call him to your podcast brother talk political and social issue

[@DonnieB0407]

Aaj QSK zarur karna. Aaj popcorn leke dekhenge.

[@rohitk9859]

Harris Sultan You 3 can make a good team

[@devidasmalani1959]

Jai Hind 🇮🇳

[@pradipkantimazumder5492]

Being an Indian surprised to see both of your clear perception in terms of your problems.But why your leaders not taking lesson from history.Repeatedly taking wrong steps one after another in terms of foreign as well as domestic issues.I do appreciate that you have a clear view of your problems.Thank you both of you from India and keep on your initiative in this way.

[@pradeepkumarmoghe4551]

The actual problem of problem is inherent denial of its hatred with Hindu India. Pak has digged itself so deep in the fire of hatred with India. That fire is now burning Pak. First of all, Pak has to accept Hindu India is also made of human beings.

[@hassanazad4627]

Can you expect criminals to do the right thing ?

[@consensus9350]

@@hassanazad4627 They r highly selfish.criminal politicians is everywhere. 🙏🙏

[@WajidAli-nk4lx]

pakistan se loot loot kr unho ne apni families bahir bhi to shift karni hen jaani.

[@rafaqathussain5374]

Man ignorance is as rampant in India as in Pakistan. So don't pretend that Indian public is different. That said, Indian founding fathers lived enough to put India in the right direction.

[@hrishikeshkulkarni8955]

Indian here. Congratulations Abbas, for hosting this high quality discussion. Muzammil seems to have done a lot of deep thinking and reading beforehand on everything he spoke about - because it came out so logical and clear headed. Superb analysis of recent history and current events in Pakistan and how it relates to rest of the world. Unfortunately, the path to a better future for all of us is not that clear and seems difficult to come by. Best wishes for your audience.

[@ArmageddonIsHere]

23:00 "Islam is political" Spot on! The first Muslim person I have seen who is able to accept that Islam is not just a religion, it is also a political movement at the core. This is why Islam is inherently antidemocratic: it cannot stay away from politics, and it brings its own political prescriptions that, being medieval in origin, are utterly opposed to principles of modern democracy.

[@asad-kc8zf]

You just found out that Islam is political? Maybe you need to read something about the political aspect of Islam. Obviously you have a very superficial understanding of “ modern democracy “ also and find it a silver bullet! Look around the world and zoom out a bit.

[@imransiddique8794]

Right

[@youttt27]

Opposed to equality,science,democracy and human rights also

[@hassanazad4627]

If democracy means conducting policies like USA, then one has to conclude that democracy is a sham.

[@vivekpaliwal2037]

@@asad-kc8zf people who don't have an ear to listen to others and are ready to argue and fight for anything and everything related to religion normally get into the spiral of doom like your country is zooming into...

[@suryanarayanajagarlapudi8672]

Syed Muzammil is one of whom any country can be proud.

[@tanseerahmad6586]

Absolutely brilliant . Sayed Muzammil is the voice of reason .

[@kushalsingh6106]

The fundamental problem of pakistan is that it is a mullah musla country That itself is a big problem

[@jess-qe5ed]

HE IS DHRUV RATHEE OF PAKISTAN. I WANT TO SEE BOTH DISCUSS THE ISSUE OF THE SUB CONTINENT.

[@qosainanimation8879]

@@jess-qe5ed facts

[@chotadinosaur8277]

Yani Pakistanio ko total destroy krdena chahiye Brilliant thought Welldone..Oh bhai simple simple is mulk me Nehru Army reforms,nehru Land reforms ap k mulk me stability or tabqaat ka farq khatm ho jae ga..

[@mithileshkumarjha361]

Islam is the only reason of every problem.. It is not a religion but a third class tribal cult of ignorant people

[@sujathaviswanathan7210]

This is the first time that I’m hearing a rational, well read and articulate person in Pakistan. Keep up the good work!

[@madfamli]

Recently I discovered your channel! I guess you are outside Pakistan. That's why you are still alive and courageous to do such Vlogs.I don't know if Syed Muzzamil is in Pakistan. May God protect him. I am an overseas Pakistani, in mid sixties,it seems Muzzamil and you are speaking my mind. I endorse the opnion about our generation being fixated by the Zia doctrine and have several debates in social gathering negating it. At times being brandish as pro Ahmadi. Although we as a nation have forgotten our real heroes. It's sad that we don't learn from history. When Taliban blew up statues of Buddha in Bamyan,I predicted that wrath of God will be on this nation, and we see what has happened to date. Because Allah has forbidden to persecute on religious and beliefs. Excellent discussion. I am confident such programmes will reform some people and the dogmatic thinking. Social media can bring changes.

[@aatmaDipoBhava]

I recently found this channel and really surprised to see as always the rare of the rare Pakistanis who understand the reality. Best wishes from India, we know 98% Pakistanis will not be able to comprehend this but we Indians really support and encourage you both as a ray of hope for geographically mutated tribals.

[@IrfanA7861]

Sweeping statment: 98% Pakistanis won't understand this?? where is this statistic comes from? Paksitan has many many LIberal people I say about 70% that is why never a single time any right fundamentalist party won more than couple of National Asembly seats.

[@anshumanpaul1985]

@@IrfanA7861 who are you stating these misguided facts... count from your first leader to your current, how many preached hard-core radicalism... the current situation is a brainchild of Pakistani politicians.... why can't Pakistanis understand that Pakistan might be an Islamic nation but Pakistan is not Islam, the pakistani definition of Islam will never let you grow, because the denial of the main problem is the issue. I won't blame you if you don't agree, it's what you have been taught.... ask few questions why Muslims always want a different state??? Why is it so hard to live with other faiths??? But where Muslims are in minority they want secularism and inclusiveness.

[@aatmaDipoBhava]

@@IrfanA7861 if the energy as well as opportunity is focused more on statistics rather than the "eye opening facts" discussed, then buddy understand who you are! Are you in 2% club or the 98% one. Identity Crisis is a vice of Humanity, This feeling is a natural phenomenon derived from deep rooted biases mutated beings often unaware off.

[@gauravkataria4318]

@@IrfanA7861 just read the number of comments, you will get the stats.

[@darkknight2414]

@@IrfanA7861 see the subscribers of muzammil and haqeeqat tv u will get the numbers

[@writer.adeelrazzaq]

What a great discussion Abbas. I was long awaited for Muzammil at your channel. Fingers cross for both of you

[@harirajpoot3459]

Nabi ka ilm sachcha sab jhuthe Halala londebazi maleganimat zenab Hur sarab mutah mishyar Umda bat By pyare nabi

[@bhaisona]

Message from a citizen of India: what a man you are @Syed Muzammil Official..... bang on... what a clarity of thought and logic.. nation like Pakistan needs political scientist like you... thanks@AbbasHaidar09 for this eloquent thought provoking discussion

[@sumitkaul007]

In the last so many decades, this is the first discussion that I have seen in Pakistan really talking about real issues. Hope there are more people like this to lead the change and bring prosperity.

[@alipak5534]

These guys have left me even more confused. I am from Attock, behind me is region dominated by Pakhtuns, in front of me is region dominated by Punjabi's. So if there is little overlap between Pakhtuns, Punjabis, Baloch, Sindhi's etc and no commonality can somebody explain to me what overlap or commonality I would have with Odishans, Tamils, Telagus, Biharis in India who are over 1,000 miles distant? Are they saying I have nothing to share with my neighbours in Pakistan but everything to share with far, far away, distant peoples of India?

[@nehakhanapurkar2231]

​@@alipak5534u all r confused because u r taught all lies about history, religion, politics😂

[@diwakersharma8618]

A most telling and illuminating interview..Never knew there were such intelligent, perceptive, unbiased, frank,and articulate youngmen in Pakistan. The flow of his answers was so smooth, never once faltered in his articulation. Such knowledge and such confidence. Thank you Syed Muzammil and Abbas Hyder. Please accept my adab and pranam.

[@Sandeep63ful]

What clarity! What maturity! Just mind blowing analysis. Hats off to you Muzammil and Abbas. Love and respect from India.

[@Trilok_world]

Bro I respect his opinion but as long as I understand he is a chatukar of Western ideology if you want more clear and long term plan of South Asian countries I recommend you Abhijit chavda's channel he knows all of the things history to geopolitics to everything

[@virendraSingh-je3sx]

I appreciate Syed and Abbas for such bright ideas for better future of Pakistan. Hope many more will join them.

[@uzmanbaloch148]

You deserve our appreciation for asking pertinent questions and clear bold rather unambiguous honestly answers. this doesn't mean you're traitors hats off to the young generation. Thanks.

[@MereKaranArjun]

We think so.. But I think such people will not surwive in Pakistan. After some time they found in graveyard.

[@alipak5534]

These guys have left me even more confused. I am from Attock, behind me is region dominated by Pakhtuns, in front of me is region dominated by Punjabi's. So if there is little overlap between Pakhtuns, Punjabis, Baloch, Sindhi's etc and no commonality can somebody explain to me what overlap or commonality I would have with Odishans, Tamils, Telagus, Biharis in India who are over 1,000 miles distant? Are they saying I have nothing to share with my neighbours in Pakistan but everything to share with far, far away, distant peoples of India?

[@bhubaneswarbarassociation6988]

Its a fantastic discussion between two intellectually matured individuals. Both Abbas ji and Muzammil ji are simply brilliant... Its a must watch for all the students of history and politics. Beautiful analysis. Please do create this kind of informative pieces... 🙏🙏🙏

[@NaveedKhan43210]

آپ مہربانی کریں، اتنی بھی نفرت نہ کریں ہم سے 🇵🇰🤲🤲 پاکستان زندہ باد انشاءاللہ 🤲🇵🇰

[@mahendrakher6667]

Both r fine 🙂 Abbas ji wonderful comments Never... bias.. No place

[@sitarampradhan8488]

DP ରୁ ମଦ ବାସନା ଆସୁଚି ମୋତେ। 😂😂😂

[@usdgreat6469]

esay logo ka koi kaam dham nahi hai .........esay log hamesa fail hotey hai ......

[@SherSingh-mk9th]

Mr. Muzzamil is absolutely brilliant. I’ve always admired his style of analysis with critical thinking. He’s also widely read and I especially like the fact that he always quotes and mentions the books and authors whence those quotes were taken from. I can then go and read those books and expand my knowledge base too! Thank you Mr Haider and Mr Muzzamil! 🙏👍👏

[@subhasishbiswasray4124]

Whenever Pakistanis say "Establishment" It means "Pakistani Army" They can't speak against their army directly , That's why they use this word "Establishment"

[@bushanmehra9885]

I am so impresed with this young man,his deep thought and profoundly and undeniable reasons.the real voyage of discovery consists, not in seeking new landscapes,but in having new eyes,and how it should be done?rational thinking is the way,and it paves by critical thought,which starts with introspection.

[@stonedsufi]

Absolutely brilliant diagnosis. 👌🏽 Extremly refreshing to hear Mr Muzammil. His ability to construct and convey his argument is quite good. Thanks for getting Mr Muzammil on your show.

[@memirk3338]

I m impressed. A pakistani intellectual is talking on rationality. Human made religion , humanity is more important than religious beliefs. Thanking for video.

[@Dan-vs9tu]

There are many like us in Pakistan. One day maybe we will prevail. That will be a game changer for the region.

[@eraofrage]

But i havn't seen any indian talking about their situation due to human made mythology

[@eraofrage]

@@atmabeeharry832 some belief systems emerge from baseless mythologies...shudras are made up of feets of a monster and brahmins are made from the head of that monster...the result of this is all the suppression of shudras dalits and lower caste people in hinduism...some humans are superior some are inferior..worst thing ever existed during the lifetime of humanity

[@eraofrage]

@@atmabeeharry832 ok first destroy those mythologies and then talk...reality is in india in 21st century political parties still use these mythologies to come in power and there is a rise in extremism in india against minorities and lower caste people recently

[@mohammadfardeenshihab1042]

Just love how amazingly Muzammil narrates the truth about the independence of Bangladesh. As a Bangladeshi myself, it is extremely heartening for me to see a Pakistani political scientist acknowledge the massacre of Bengalis and racism by the Pakistani Army and Junta in 1971 against Bengalis . He acknowledges the massacre of Bengali intellectuals, the brutality of Operation Searchlight, of how Bengali race was looked at as a Nichi Zaat or subordinate race by the Punjabis of West Pakistan. He talks about how I’m the name of Islam millions of Bengali Muslims and Hindus were killed and raped This requires utmost bravery and I wholeheartedly applaud this talented political scientist .

[@saeedzafaar]

This video interview gives hope that there are still people, young people, with bold energy and thinking ability to pinpoint the root cause of the national problem. 👍

[@chotadinosaur8277]

Yani Pakistanio ko total destroy krdena chahiye Brilliant thought Welldone..Oh bhai simple simple is mulk me Nehru Army reforms,nehru Land reforms ap k mulk me stability or tabqaat ka farq khatm ho jae ga..

[@zunairazubair2268]

This was an amazing discussion. Always get to learn a lot from Muzammil. If only our textbooks had 10% of such intellectual offering. Great job done by the host as well.

[@siddiquihassan1626]

Iam surely

[@sanjeevmendiratta]

Highly impressed by Muzammil unbiased opinion and amazing clarity of thought. Pakistan needs many more people like him. A great introspection.

[@vickyyadav5723]

I'm from India nd I love hearing Syed bcz he talk's fact Edit: I was scrolling the comment section nd found most of them r Indians sadly I don't know why Pakistani don't listen this brilliants Karta kiyo ho paxtaniyo

[@alanwalker1207]

I am a Pakistani. Muzammil and I have almost the same mentality. Actually, Pakistani people like me don't come in public view because of security reasons

[@nishu111ful]

@@alanwalker1207 bro what sort of state is Pakistan then .. why so silence on facts n truth .. I live in Australia n there are so many Pakistani friends I have and I bluntly say they all nice guy

[@anshumanpaul1985]

We are living in a time where we only listen to things which suit the narrative which we have built consciously or subconsciously. So anyone presenting a different aspect is easily disliked. As for Pakistanis (most not all) Denial is the main cause of their problems.

[@aliengod2039]

Either they just don't like well-educated, open minded and scientific thinkers as it is Blasphemous to support truth based on facts in their political ideology or they're just too scared to come out, show their face and speak like him. It's incredibly hard as there is no reform possible in cults and political ideologies. Hope this changes soon with more highly educated and open minded modern generations in all Islamic countries.

[@nikhildeshmukh6221]

Alan walker.....I know you're Indian

[@prashant1954]

I am really impressed with the intellect and wisdom of Mr Syed Muzammil. His understanding of a state and it's people is wonderful. I remember a famous poem of which I put an extract "Old order changeth ,yielding place to new. " The ideas of this political scientist are naval, logical and rational. Thanks for this interview. The best part was when he says that the earlier generation expects to be respected because of their years only but clings to their outdated and irrational beliefs . There is merit in his arguments , definitely .

[@sanjeevsharma9998]

Excellent discussion. I am from India and it was very thought provoking. Relevant to India also.

[@BaljeetSingh-wm6rb]

OMG...what a fantastic rational discussion...most intellectual discussion which I heard from other side of border till date... respect for both of you 🙏

[@trumpcard749]

I am yet to hear from your side

[@Trilok_world]

@@trumpcard749 watch Abhijeet Chavda's KZbin channel for that.

[@saurabhtiwari7213]

@@Trilok_world he is a propaganda spreader of bjp. Don't feel sad but it's true.

[@Trilok_world]

thats what happen when someone with indic idias have answers thats you cant tacle , bro Not everyone are here BJP supporters. if you dont like him then fine bút here in this video Too has western ideology propogenda , like glorification of churchil , left and Right Wing thing , you cant ignore this whenever you go. propogenda is everywhere you just dinying One to accepting Another.

[@Trilok_world]

@@saurabhtiwari7213 .

[@kapildaryani5136]

"If there is tolerance towards intolerance then all tolerance is lost."...The same thing happening in India now a days. The tolerance towards radicalized elements n sar tan se juda brigade have caused so much havoc which forces the ordinary Indians to become intolerant towards them

[@amitkulkarni910]

People are tolerating the intolerance of the right wing in India. This could end any kind of tolerance,once and for all.

[@damn738]

Ohh that is the problem of people like you who think you were deprived all these years you have been targetted so much so that now its out of limit stop ranting ...you were intolerant in past read your history and you will find what havent you done in past ...it is just that intolerants like you have now back up from administration government supports you fully ,,, this so much of hate hasnt developed in just 8 years its is been in your hearts for always but you haven't have so much freedom now the govt.is fully backing up you ...stop ranting everywhere you bastard peacelover ...this false paradigm is visible to whole world how india as a society takes the criticism just wait and watch , world is not full of fools like you hypocrites they know you arent a danger to them anymore but they will crack down upon you for all wrongdoings .... Muzzamil bar bar geographically bol rha ha ab duniya ki tareekh batati ha ki geographically is region ne sbse jyada preshani dekhi ha dna me hi problem ha isi wajah se galt galat nhi keh rhe ha log and the same goes to modi india where they just tolerating him all these years and we are seeing consequences of that ...

[@Agnostic-1]

Dil ki baat apne bola bhai👍. Hindus(ordinary) kabhi v itna frustrated Nehi tha but intolerance religious idiology (pissful people)ki action ke karan se retaliation karna majboor ho rha .

[@khurmiful]

@Gazwaepak Human which party in India is spreading terrorist ideology?

[@ranaashhad8040]

The difference is that in India, you're fighting Islamic extremism with hindu extremism, which is a recipe for disasters.

[@miyahyderabadi2385]

It’s always a treat to listen to Shri Syed Muzammilji.

[@rabka1234]

Muzamil I am so pleased to hear your views analysis about current quagmire Pakistan is in. Young generation like you gives hope for a bright future of Pakistan. Though I disagree with you on East Pakistan separation, other than that I most supportive of your arguments you have laid down. May Allah swt gives you long life and courage to continue to speak your mind.

[@sovereign2790]

@Syed Muzammil - an absolute treat to listen to the rational, informed sanity you've extolled here. Thank you 🙏. God bless the interviewer for the amazing, probing hook questions, and his professional humility/patience for allowing the guest to speak without interruptions and editing.

[@nirmalsingha3922]

" TOTAL DESTRUCTION IS THE INLY WAY OUT FOR A NEW THOUGHT PROCESS OF A COUNTRY LIKE PAKISTHAN " GREAT 👍 WORDS OF MUZAMILL BHAI FROM INDIA 🇮🇳

[@ramanv.r3422]

Feel lucky to have had a chance to hear the excellent exposition by Syed Muzammil. I wish Pakistan to have more like him and Dr Pervez Hoodbouy.

[@akashkumar-ee7pw]

baised toh h hi. kitna bhi discusion krle islam ko galat ni bta skte unlike india. hindutv hindutv krte rehte ye so called padhe likhe log. kabhi hindutv ke bare mein padha h.

[@Ahsan-Sharif-Sahotra]

Shidat sy intzaaar tha is ka Much Respect for you both ❤️

[@surindervohra6819]

I am really surprized with Sayyad Muzammil.A Pakistani able to see his nation's blind spot i.e. islaam.

[@Danny-bbsrSingh]

Need more Persons like Syed Muzammil a well educated intelligent Person who has a complete understanding of Pakistan Politics if every Pakistani tries to understand his views maybe a solution for Pakistan may come about!!!

[@KSA-pp6ki]

Abbas bhai thank you for bringing Muzamil one of the brilliant minds in Pakistan. People like him in Pakistan give the optimism that Pakistan has a chance to become a progressive and modern nation!

[@ganaraj]

As an outsider, it would be amazing to see if people like both of you were to lead the country. You are both intellectuals and are contributing to the cause of your nation. Instead of educating people, sometimes you have to step up and be the change that your country neeeds. I know its a very dangerous preposition, but sometimes a great change needs a great sacrifice and a vision.

[@Lyallpuriya]

Stop electing irrational bigots like Andhbakhts in your country first

[@Lyallpuriya]

Stop electing irrational bigots like Andhbakhts in your country first

[@kooshiszarrar1340]

Jinnah was a lawyer and was given a case to fight . He achieved the result . He was not there to tell to how the country .I agree with muzammil and this is always my point of view

[@getevennow]

“Countries that are defeated by their enemies often rebuild. But the countries that are destroyed from within-that's really the end of the line.” ― Stephen Kotkin

[@upsc_clear]

Every Pakistani must watch this video ✅👏 Great Discussion

[@aftabnaveed]

Abbas you are doing a great service to the people, I really appreciate your effort. The question that you asked ""How to change the mentality of the people?" Mentality of the people can only be changed when they want to change it. If someone is following liberalism as dogma without critical thinking that too will back fire. In my opinion mentality of people can be changed when they start looking inwards, behavioural change always comes from inside out. Also, showing people the importance of public libraries and reading books will help immensely.

[@ArmageddonIsHere]

Pakistan, being a theocratic Islamic state, is defined by its religion. Thus the mentality of the people of the land is also defined by its religion. To change the mentality therefore you have to change the religion. But that is impossible because as everyone knows, Islam is already perfect, being the heaven-revealed religion. And therefore there will be no changing the mentality, and the problems will fester. Until eventually the whole body of Pakistan dies its natural death.

[@f.50]

I would say free speech is the linchpin for a functional society, when 'establishment' wont allow critical voices against its propaganda machine, how would anyone be able to see another perspective.

[@EXMUSLIMFANCLUB]

Two great people in one place 👍👍👍👍

[@NarendraKumar-rz2io]

Brilliant discourse by s mujamil.

[@biswalashis123]

Watched entire length in one go. High intellect of this level discussion rarely found on media even in India. Though i am a staunch BJP & Modi supporter, still i love pakistan, because we share similar culture,language, food.

[@Trilok_world]

For our blood line or acianterial linage yes, but not all INDIANS are culturly or languagly contacted to Pakistanis for example SOUTH INDIANS, NORTH EAST INDIANS etc...

[@shamsherbahadur5326]

Dear Ashish, consider the debate in the context of Indian Muslims who ignored 19th century reformation, in Hindu society Raja Ram Mohan Roy, Dayanand, Viveka Nand, Tilak were redefining practices and way of life. Muslim close them in their Mohallas.,later closed in bigger mohalla called Pakistan..

[@Kumar-fg1cj]

Don't you know Pakistani are Arab

[@nikhilhembrom8952]

Being bjp supporter you love pakistan I thought in our country bjp and its supporter hates indian muslim and you are saying you love pakistan despite being modi supporter

[@Kumar-fg1cj]

@@nikhilhembrom8952 tho samsya kya hai

[@rajchandran]

Wow! What a message at the end.. Thank you Mr Syed Muzammil 🙏🙏🙏

[@suramya03]

Clear analyses with honesty. How many Muslims will agree with such honest views?

[@narendrasinghbais9158]

I am happy to watch this video. Muzammil has shown that he is a rational man and understands the history very rightly. Well done. Thanks Abbas Haider for inviting Muzammil.

[@Pk-ur3tz]

Dear Abbas ur this blog was wonderful ✨️ 💖 💕 😊 💗 💛 specially Mr. Muzammil's analysis on Pakistan was awesome, such intellectuals aren't respected in the country so most of them left abroad. I am fm India 🇮🇳 watching regularly blogs of Pakistani bloggers where I observed most of the Pakistanis 1st priority is Islam and nation last. So how a nation can develop whose population priority is Islam Islam. Most of the people say that our army, ISI and scientists are no.1 in the world. I don't know in which world these guys belong to?

[@learnwithdrishti5574]

Classic show. Not just for Pakistan, but for every nation, society and community. Can not believe that such brilliant minds exists in Pakistan.

[@vinamrasinghai2339]

why?

[@bhadwamodi8294]

@@vinamrasinghai2339 This show is not for the violent citizens of GOBAR belt BIMARU states of India.

[@akashkumar-ee7pw]

@@bhadwamodi8294 says the person hiding behind fake id.

[@deadpool8580]

@@bhadwamodi8294 Shows your standard. If I recall correctly it's your country begging for loans and necessary food and medical items. Now I know why!

[@benhurrao1715]

Excellent points. Some of them applicable to India as well. Separation of state and religion essential in the modern world

[@syedshayanhussain4373]

Amazing thoughts shared.. actually there have been alot of things going through my head and Muzammil gave them very clear words.. specially the first hald of this session when the whole ideology of independence was discussed... There is a long a way still apparently in achieving the haqiqi azadi of our minds.. however if brains like u keep repeating thoughts of open mindedness someday we will become a nation...

[@balakrishnaiyer8431]

Is there anyone listening to Muzammil & Abbas Haider. Pls give them space in your society. They will bring about change which is good for Pakistan.

[@mohsinafzaal7159]

Both of you are doing a great job! You are a ray of hope for Pakistan….. more power to you….❤️

[@ex-fabiansocialist1660]

Super discussion. Two of you are making huge contribution towards global scholarship. What clarity.

[@VedaCareNature]

Wonderful analysis by 2 young intellectuals from pakistan. Love and respect to both of you from india. Big admirer of brother Muzammil.

[@subhashchandrajha464]

One of the best analysis I have ever come across. You have so clearly identified the problems and outlined the road map for improvements. Very informative. You have enriched my knowledge. Thank you very much.

[@kazimhussain100]

Syed Muzammil is a gem of pakistan. Always great listening to him. Hope someday he can run Pakistan and take the country to new heights. He will have my 100% support.

[@devendrasinghdalal2900]

A great discussion with clarity , logic and facts. I put you in line with Parvej Hudbhoy , Hassan Nisar. Very rare for a Pakistani. Impressed. God Bless.

[@kapildaryani5136]

@sherri butt Yes u r absolutely right...Hassan Nisar is an arrogant person with the patriarchal mindset..I've been following him since 2012 n I can say that he can't be compared to an intellectual like Pervez Hoodbhoy sir

[@devendrasinghdalal2900]

@sherri butt Not many Pakistanis are so straight forward with facts as Mr Hassan Nisar and Mr Parvvej Hoodbhoy is to the point and logical. Both of them have earned the respect of Indians. Yes Muzamil, here, was brilliant.

[@abhishekbhardwaj5272]

Along with Taimur Rehman & Dr Ammar Ali Jaan

[@asad-kc8zf]

It’s Pervaiz Hudhboy , anyway he is a good physicist. Unfortunately when they step outside their specialties, most of the time they make a fool of themselves.

[@nishantsrivastava8199]

@@devendrasinghdalal2900 every one of this three so called intellectual has many misunderstanding

[@abhishekbhardwaj5272]

Thanks to Syed Muzammil 🙏 I got to know about another gem of Pakistan 🇵🇰, Abbas Haider!

[@chinmaymohanty5301]

Syed Muzammil is a brilliant Scholar .God bless him.

[@DeepakSharma-rt4eh]

Syed is brilliant person. I am listening him for past few months. Good to hear him. God bless him. DEEPAK SHARMA from Nigeria.

[@hmyasirr]

اس سیشن میں اور بلیک ہول والے سیشن میں مزمل بھائی نے تقریبا ایک جیسی ہی باتیں کی ہیں۔۔۔۔ مجھے فائدہ یہ ہوا کہ میں آج ہی دونوں سنی ہیں۔۔ پہلے بلیک ہول والی گپ شپ اس کے بعد یہ والی۔۔۔ تاریخی حوالہ جات زیادہ تر ذہن نشین ہو گئے ہیں۔۔۔ یہ حضرت ایک صاحب رائے ہیں اس لیے اب سے ان کی قدر میرے دل میں بڑھ گئی ہے کیونکہ پہلی مرتبہ آج ہی سنا ہے ان کو۔۔۔ خدا آباد رکھے جناب کو❤

[@sunitasinha7420]

Start with self awareness, dialogue to increase the capacity to accept diverse thoughts and attitude.... It starts with that and they will find their way 💚 .... Always a pleasure to listen to Syed M

[@swadeshtaneja3512]

I like this channel as there is always intellectual discussion. My parents had to leave Pakistan. Though they led extremely painful and torturous life for many years as refugees but it has been boon for us coming to India. Our PM respected Modi has awakened Hindus that was much needed and now we know about Islam and political lslam. Otherwise I am afraid the fate of Hindus would be like Jews.

[@bhadwamodi8294]

LOL Jews are minority and Hindus are majority.

[@swadeshtaneja3512]

@gulrezrana3710 you are right. Even now there is turmoil in the world and Innocent people become the target.

[@nehakhanapurkar2231]

​@gulrezrana3710ur Mr. Jinna wanted separate country for. Muslims, direct action day in 1946 , started violence which killed millions innocent hindus, sikh ,muslims.

[@nurunnahar2964]

,Though being a Bangladeshi I am not conversant of class Urdu with my little proficiency I could understand that it is a Briliant discussion .This discussion will help the countries who are struggling for political stability be it South Asia,Africa,or Latin America .If the discussion could be translated in English then many could benefit from this timely Vedio. I thank you Mr.Mozammil nd Mr.Abbas hour long mind blowing episode.

[@KKPR533]

Hi bhai...fellow bangali frm 🇮🇳 here✌

[@kamalmohd8806]

Absolutely thrilling and a pleasure to listen this young man SM. His reasoning, knowledge and clarity of thoughts is stunning.

[@raj7214]

Sir, but how many people in pakistan understand the issues he mentioned here ?

[@akramkhan-bunyad]

Highly informative in the sense that it speaks the current realities of the time.

[@mrshahbjs]

Great analysis... I think this is the first genuine presentation based on TRUTH, by a Pakistani..

[@sushilvasan7064]

Great, as always, listening to such an intellectual discussion. You both are really gifted individuals. Pakistan should feel proud to have two jewels in you.

[@valvirchauhan4169]

WOW! absolutely brilliant thoughts!!. I am a big fan of @Syed Mulzammil. He is one of them in Pakistan who accepted me on his Facebook contact list. The other ones are Shakil Chaudhary Saheb and Pakistani origin scholar Swedish citizen Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed. Pervez hoodboy is my other favorite in Pakistan! If guys like you become majority in Pakistan then no one can stop Pakistan becoming a progressive state. God bless you guys!

[@rhonyroyce]

Not sure how I stumbled upon this gem. Muzammil is an intellectual. Videos like this would help change the perception of Pakistan among Indians.

[@sajidt.chowdhury726]

I think i just became a fan of Syed Muzammil. Respect from Bangladesh!

[@CANADA7]

Yes he is true kind of person

[@born-to-fly]

Nehru and Jinnah were at the top could not stay together, so Jinnah started the narrative for Pak and got it. All effort was for Demand for Pak but no one was working on what will they do once they get it. Good discussion and you have nailed most of the points. Modern education is the Key to most problems.

[@deepakpatil5405]

One of the best Q & A sessions i have come across regarding Pakistan. This video should become VIRAL in Pakistan & all sections of the population should get some " SEEKH" from it.

[@Trilok_world]

It's called vidya bro

[@jacklee4108]

just because of few Intellectual like Mujjamil Bhai and others I try not to hate pakistan as whole. respect for Mujjamil Bhai as always, from India Jai Hind 🙏🇮🇳

[@nowayhuh]

Wow!!!! I am utterly surprised and happy at the same time to find a gem like you Muzammil bhai. I agree with every point you made here. A bloody revolution is the only hope but unfortunately 99% of us are minions of outdated and irrational ideas. More power to you and stay safe!

[@manzoorahmed802]

Dear Haider Abbas , you are really contributing for the country. And you have practical approach to the actions. We have to do on thought process first. We have to invest on primary education. Once you have a new educated and learned generation that will change the society.

[@Adeel1830]

Excellent Talk .. really informative very openly and bluntly address sensitive issues. Very intellectual!

[@rajendranathkaushik7382]

Undoubtedly excellent discussion by raising good issues by Abbas Haider and critical and very rational analysis by Syed Muzzammil.

[@আমিকালআমিনিরপেক্ষনইআমিপরিবর্তন]

it's good that most of the Pakistanis will not understand what they are talking otherwise their lives could have in danger ⚡...salute to both of you. ❤️

[@nirmalsingha3922]

Bangladesh 🇧🇩 bhai namaskar pakisthan ar sesh.

[@arunjoshi8618]

Syed Muzammil Sir, Selute to your knowledge and thoughts.Thanks Abbasbhai

[@curiousobserver6601]

syed Muzzamil Shah is one of those rare rationalists with a global perspective and a tremendous historical background. It is Pakistan's great misfortune that there are not enough Syed Muzzamil Shahs, Pervez Hoodbhoys, Arzoo Kazmis, Aalia Shahs, Ishtiaq Ahmeds to inspire and motivate the Pakistani masses. Nevertheless, hope flows eternal in the human breast.

[@priyanka4336]

Thank you both of you 😊 for selflessly making these videos for us. Excellent questions Abbas ji. Muzzamil too deserves an applause.

[@bekannadiga2054]

Mr Abbas u talk about solution most of the times.. First of all who talks facts like u and Muzammil and many more are followed by majority Indians.. and also appreciate the discussion.. Hardly it helps Pakistan.. It should reach more Pakistanis so tht they start thinking about what went wrong and what can be done etc etc..

[@DonnieB0407]

33:00 South Asian Mentality pe aapne bohot sahi baat boli. "Ji Huzoor" wali mentality ki wajah se humari koi izzat nahi thi. I'm glad ki atleast India mey ye change ho raha hai. Aap jaise logo ki bohot zarurat hai subcontinent mey.

[@nick-db8ik]

Very true. Ji huzoor wali mentality

[@shubhamrawat530]

How??

[@kaalsutra2591]

Bharat me parivartan janta aur sarkar mil ke late hai,koi aik malik nahin ,iss liye desh aage bhadh raha hai , Iske baraksh pakistan kuch maliko ke under chalta hai. 🙏

[@contrarian322]

@@shubhamrawat530 By sheer number of political parties with different ideologies and politics . Consensus reigns here . Even modi’s govt with ultimate majority backtracks on Nupur Sharma issue , farm laws, CAA .. many more .

[@shubhamrawat530]

@@contrarian322 don't u think we also start replacing our history with ideology. मुगल अच्छे थे या बुरे थे वो दूसरी बात है लेकिन उन्होंने भारत को एक पोलिटिकल यूनिट रखने की कोशिश की, पूरे हिन्दुस्तान का सपता देखा, वहीं हम महाराणा प्रताप को देखें तो उनके लिए उनका देश सिर्फ मेवार था उनके लिए मराठी हो या अंग्रेज दोनों ही विदेशी थे, उन्होंने कभी मेवाड के बाहर कोसिस नहीं की कि भारत को एक किया जाये जैसे मुगलों ने किया। तो भारत का जब मध्यकालीन इतिहास पढ़ाया जायेगा तो उसमें सेंटर केरकटर मुगल होने चाहिए ना कि महाराणा प्रताप जैसे 1757 प्लासी की लड़ाई के बाद अंग्रेजो हो जाते हैं। बुद्ध और महावीर एक सच्चाई है क्योंकि उनके archeological evidence मिले हैं लेकिन रामायण महाभारत के आरकलोजिकल एविडेंस नहीं मिले हैं। संसद टीवी ने भारत के प्राचीन इतिहास पे एक धारावाहिक बनाया जिसमें वेदिक काल, मौर्य, गुप्त, महाजनपद, शुंग सबके बारे में बताया गया यहां के 3 एपिसोड महाभारत और रामायण के भी हैं लेकिन बुद्ध और महावीर से जुड़ा एक भी एपिसोड नहीं तुम्हें नहीं लगता हम भी पाकिस्तान की तरह असली इतिहास को हटा के उस इतिहास को डालने की कोशिश कर रहे हैं जो सिर्फ हिन्दू मन को गुदगुदाये रखें। बुद्ध, महावीर ने हिन्दू धर्म को क्रिटिसाईज करके नया धर्म बनाया तो उनकी आइडोलोजी क्या थी वो क्या कहते थे वो ही हटा दिया। जैसे 2 एपिसोड वेदिक काल के उसमें बताया गया वैद्यों के हिसाब से राजा कैसा होना चाहिए, उसका चुनाव कैसे होना चाहिए, टेक्स कैसे लिया जायेगा, छोटे राज्यों से बड़े राज्य कैसे बने। रामायण महाभारत में भी भगवान राम भिष्म और बाकी के पात्रों ने जो शिक्षा दी वो सब बताई गई लेकिन बुद्ध और महावीर की शिक्षा छोड़ दी गई क्या ये ग़लत नहीं है।

[@alex_2020]

This interview is the best I have ever heard in my recent memory! Just blew my mind! I wish we could have such debates in India!

[@tayybaramzan8630]

Exactly 💯.... Great analysis

[@Trilok_world]

Watch Abhijeet chadva's KZbin channel for that

[@ZafarAKhan-zu5kd]

Dear Abbas n Muzammil you are doing excellent job. Very informative discusion. Seeing your videos is far better then watching talk shows on different channels and wasting time. Keep on doing your good work. Be blessed. Zafar from Karachi Pakistan

[@youtubewatcherdesi]

The best analysis of Pakistan that I have ever heard. Muzammil is the best !!

[@hayderimran7]

sir ap ke baray bola tha..belgium bajwa saab

[@youtubewatcherdesi]

@@hayderimran7 Aap Sach he. Mein ne khub lootaya

[@kushalsingh6106]

Pakistan is musmullah country amd that is its biggest problem

[@bhadwamodi8294]

@@youtubewatcherdesi Kia lootaya Bajwa sayb?

[@RajPatel-jx5px]

One of the best Programs , I have seen in long time. TY, Gentlemen.

[@JagadisM]

Hats off to both.. I wish both Pakistanis,and Indians also watch this. Respect Religion... it's personal, but Separate religion with state and politics only paves way for prosperity.... solves our education,health ,employment, poverty issues .. the sooner this narrative spreads... ,the better.. with 💕 from India .

[@piyushdas079]

Pakistan is an islamic state

[@vinniepathe1443]

Syed you are very bright. This is something every Pakistani or I would say Muslim needs to listen. Close minds needs to open and that is not a crime in the religion. Very well said.

[@MrSuresh1904]

The level of discussion is very high. The participants are ruthlessly honest.

[@JackReacher340]

Can listen to this man for hours. What an intellectual mind.

[@chotadinosaur8277]

Yani Pakistanio ko total destroy krdena chahiye Brilliant thought Welldone..Oh bhai simple simple is mulk me Nehru Army reforms,nehru Land reforms ap k mulk me stability or tabqaat ka farq khatm ho jae ga..

[@zafarullahposhni716]

Excellent analysis. Brilliantly explained . Thank you for enlightening us and sharing your wisdom Syed Muzammil 👍🏽🙏🏼

[@charusingh7223]

very impressive discussion. a refreshing depth and objective, honest analysis not seen otherwise in Pakistani social - political commentators. I wonder as to what and how such numerous fault lines can be filled/ bridged in a society that doesn't know what heritage to claim as its own, what's their identity, what binds them together and what's their vision for their nation.... .

[@muzaffaralamsiddiqui7383]

Muzammil has been so clear and courageous having touched very sensitive domains with all sincerity and wisdom

[@anilgeorgey6069]

93% population in Pakistan are uneducated this is the main problem. The issue in pakistan is you guys consider madrasa teaching as education.