What Is The STRONGEST Class In GBA Fire Emblem?

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Bad At Fire Emblem

Bad At Fire Emblem

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I used FE Builder to make a massive tournament to test which class in the gba fire emblem games is the best fighter. I will be using the information collected in this video in a new series on the channel soon, so keep your eyes peeled for that :)

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@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
I have no idea why this video has done so well, but thanks everyone for supporting the channel! I'm very new to this but I'm exciting to create a little community of gba fe lovers :)
@notZabami
@notZabami 9 ай бұрын
The thumbnail
@notZabami
@notZabami 9 ай бұрын
I would definitely click on that
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
It took about 2 hours so I'm glad it was worth the extra effort 😅 cheers Zabami
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
@@Ismael_Espinola well I'm happy it reached you :)
@CatsLilaSalem
@CatsLilaSalem 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, KZbin does put some videos from smaller creators with low views into recommendations, which is an great way to discover the smaller creators
@carmonix1143
@carmonix1143 9 ай бұрын
I would love to see the same but with promoted classes
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
a few people have said the same so I guess I'll have to do it at some point! :P
@mockinghyena960
@mockinghyena960 9 ай бұрын
​@@BadAtFireEmblem Yesss please
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
@@mockinghyena960 stay tuned I guess 😅
@iLegault
@iLegault 9 ай бұрын
Swordmaster/Berserker sweep
@darkjackl999
@darkjackl999 9 ай бұрын
​@@iLegaultnah man assassin just gonna hit every silencer (trust)
@GODHAND42
@GODHAND42 9 ай бұрын
Next let’s see which class can most effectively dispatch villager children
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Now THIS is a video idea 🤣
@raymoo8504
@raymoo8504 9 ай бұрын
the answer is a giant poisonous spider
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
@@raymoo8504 fe8 chapter 6 wants its gameplay mechanics back
@AzumarillConGafasBv
@AzumarillConGafasBv 8 ай бұрын
That'll be amazing
@seams4186
@seams4186 8 ай бұрын
​@@raymoo8504that chapter is the worst thing that ever happened to me
@AllBeganwithBBS
@AllBeganwithBBS 9 ай бұрын
Gut feeling tells me at capped stats with promoted classes things would get quite interesting, but then we'd have to take weapon triangle into consideration every time which would be a chore. I respect the effort.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, I'm gonna have to do it all again for a promoted class follow up video now 😅 yeah it'll be an interesting one, I have no idea how it'll work out
@rainingrotom
@rainingrotom 9 ай бұрын
giving all of the units capped stats messes up the results pretty bad since everyone gets so much def res and speed
@SageOfLegaia
@SageOfLegaia 9 ай бұрын
@@rainingrotom There would also be issues around Pierce, Great Shield, and Silencer skewing the results, but you could, I think, remove those using GBABuilder if you wanted it to just be based on stats alone. I don't think the +15% Crit that Swordmasters and Berserkers get would need to be removed, and the only other skill I can think of that might matter is Sure Shot on Snipers, which is probably fine to stay as well, since Snipers have a Skill cap of 30 and a Speed cap of 29.
@astracrits4633
@astracrits4633 9 ай бұрын
@@SageOfLegaia Alternatively, while it'd definitely be more time-consuming (and probably more annoying to make), you could do multiple rounds to hopefully reduce skew while still staying true to the intent of the class.
@FireBirdTheEpic
@FireBirdTheEpic 8 ай бұрын
​@@BadAtFireEmblemif I were to do this test with promoted classes, I'd give them all capped stats and when testing them I think I'd always give them the weapon triangle advantage where possible, since a player would presumably opt for the weapon triangle advantage in a scenario if given the choice (ie falcon knights can use lance and sword, so when testing against a berserker they would use a sword and testing against a swordmaster they would use a lance). This way it would also factor in the inherit benefits a class has when they arent locked to a single weapon type.
@crab6686
@crab6686 9 ай бұрын
General may do pretty well due to most classes haveing lowish strength growths, pavise having a 20% chance to prock, and mastery of the weapon triangle, though magic units would all most likely destroy them. Also (not meant as an insult) your content is great for starting of bot so long ago.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
I'm gonna have to do a follow up with promoted units at some point I think! Thanks a lot crab, that's very kind of you to say ❤️ hopefully I'll see you in the comments in future!
@Tenhys
@Tenhys 9 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblem Huh... which GBA standards you are going to follow, then ? If it's the Blazing Sword, Generals do not have access to swords but in Sacred Stones, they do ; same thing for Paladins but in reverse (if i recall.)
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
@@Tenhys I wasn't even planning on doing promoted units until so many people asked, so I'm not sure. since I'm running the testing on fe8 I'll probably use the classes as they are without changing anything? The results will just have to be taken with a pinch of sal when applying them to fe6 and 7, since they aren't really the same classes when the class skills come into play in fe8
@Ahappysandwich
@Ahappysandwich 9 ай бұрын
Can't you drink some item that significantly raises resistance? That's what I did in FE7 gave my general the shoes for +2 movement and the res potion.
@Tenhys
@Tenhys 9 ай бұрын
@@Ahappysandwich I don't think stat boosters can be counted upon ; only natural growth stats can be taken into account to give a fairer results. If you start tempering with items you falsify the results because it can drastically change an unit over an entire playthrough. For example, back when i played FE7, i used to select one unit that i decided in advance i would use all of my boosting items upon as to reinforce replayability. In one of said playthrough i selected Florina, the shy pegasus knight, to fill with every boosters available and she became a flying weapon of mass destruction. The same can be done with everyone else. So i assume that stats boosters are out of the question.
@RatedB1
@RatedB1 9 ай бұрын
Axes performed much better than I was expecting
@mackowens7234
@mackowens7234 9 ай бұрын
Yooo lmao I love that you offered up a child as a sacrificial reward to him You get a sub for that
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate the validation, child had it coming 😅
@yamatanoorochi3149
@yamatanoorochi3149 9 ай бұрын
Great to have a gba food chain now
@ryanprjgamingchannel9437
@ryanprjgamingchannel9437 9 ай бұрын
The fact one of Archer Ws is against Wyvern Rider is actually an absolute win for them, because FE8's 3x weapon effectiveness. (if this was FE7 with 2x mt instead of 3x mt, they would be the lowest ranked class)
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely, big win for the shootyboi. Though he might have still beat the peg with double effectiveness, he won't that fight quite convincingly
@jerry3115
@jerry3115 9 ай бұрын
definitely a neat little video, only thing I would suggest is perhaps running multiple trials of each matchup to deal with the rng variability a little, but from the sounds of it this already took a while to make and I wouldn't want to do that myself, and it looks like the results are pretty consistent anyway.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Thanks man, appreciate that. Yeah it took ages even without repeats
@Era2Sunrise
@Era2Sunrise 9 ай бұрын
Interesting fire emblem videos always find their way into my recommendations. Looking forward to more interesting stuff 🎉
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
GBA fire emblem is the gift that keeps on giving 😅 Thanks man, hopefully I'll see you in the comments again
@Scotts_GamingWorld
@Scotts_GamingWorld 9 ай бұрын
Never though to text out all the units! It's great to watch
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it man :)
@thestaubmob6877
@thestaubmob6877 5 ай бұрын
My love for the Mercs and Mages sprites really paying off
@yvendous
@yvendous 9 ай бұрын
Very cool! I didn't know I needed this haha (P.S. Your audio is very quiet compared to the majority of videos out there. Pay attention to the audio level during your editing process and raise it to get close to 0db at the peaks of the audio. Other things like a good compression filter can help, easy to search up tips and tricks for better audio. No offense meant.)
@Designated_loser
@Designated_loser 9 ай бұрын
Thieves may have come up short but honorable mention to chad in fe6 with his fatty growths and advantage against axe users
@Designated_loser
@Designated_loser 9 ай бұрын
If assassin was a promotion in that game it'd be joever for bern
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
@@Designated_loser it always upset me that thieves don't promote in that game
@thattimestampguy
@thattimestampguy 9 ай бұрын
1:42 Last Place: Thief 0-14 Record - he’s weak, does little damage 2:10 2nd to Last: The Soldier 2-14 Record Beat the Myrmidon and The Thief 2:35 3rd to last: The Archer🏹 3-13 2:58 Tie-11 Spot: Monk and Pegasus Knight 3:48 #10 The Armor Knight 7-7 Record, sounds respectable - He needs to strike first or he loses 4:08 Pirate and Brigand 9-5 Record High Damage output Beaten by sword 🗡️ units + Beat the mage - Lost to the thief 4:45 Fighter and Myrmidon 10-4 record + Fighter defeats Cavalier 5:13 The Top 5 5. Cavalier 11-3 - Lost to the mage - Lost to the Armor Knight - Lost to the Wyvern 5:35 Mercenary 12-2 Record 5:55 Mage and Shaman 13-1 record 6:39 Wyvern Rider 🥇 15. Thief 14. Soldier 13. Archer 11. Pegasus and Monk 10. Armored Knight 8. Pirate and Brigand 6. Fighter and Myrmidon 5. Cavalier 4. Mercenary 2. Mage and Shaman 1. Wyvern Rider
@A_Person_64
@A_Person_64 9 ай бұрын
The archer's score being 3-13 is killing me
@dizzyheads
@dizzyheads 9 ай бұрын
Wow Wyvern knights always seem to be consistently great in FE games
@astracrits4633
@astracrits4633 9 ай бұрын
@@dizzyheads Well, "very tanky flying unit with decent con and lances" is kind of a concept that's hard to go wrong with. They're basically just Pegasus Knights without any of the weaknesses (save for gaining a weakness to dragonslaying weapons, but how often is the player *realistically* running into those?)
@yamatanoorochi3149
@yamatanoorochi3149 9 ай бұрын
"Friendship and adventure" playing... Kickass Hector sprite... You there are a true man of culture All hail Marquess Ostia!!
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, Hector is ma boi! "culture" indeed
@jaimereupert4247
@jaimereupert4247 9 ай бұрын
7:20-7:30 "won't somebody think of the children?!" 😂
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
I thought of the children. I thought to involve them in the tournament 😅
@jaimereupert4247
@jaimereupert4247 9 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblem 😂😥
@thunderknight4149
@thunderknight4149 9 ай бұрын
7:27 a delicious snack for the wyvern
@dragonray2850
@dragonray2850 8 ай бұрын
I liked the idea behind it but will admit weapons themselves would change things up probably. Myrmidon I feel would kill more if they had a killing edge even if opponent had a killing weapon as well due to them naturally having higher crit then other classes (so should crit more often) but I do like the straight up stats version you posted. keep up the good work.
@bob4960
@bob4960 9 ай бұрын
This is a really cool concept. Question about the Archer - if Thief has 0 wins, and you said Archer (2:30) beat the Soldier/Peg/Wyvern, shouldn't Archer be at 4 wins since it defeated the Thief as well? From the thief section you showed, Thief can't even damage Archer, so Archer would have to win that encounter.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Thanks :) yes I made a mistake, archer had 4 wins not 3!
@ryanprjgamingchannel9437
@ryanprjgamingchannel9437 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, though the standings didn't get changed anyway, to be frank
@skatersirian
@skatersirian 8 ай бұрын
That villager sacrifice at the end was so out of pocket. 😂
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 8 ай бұрын
You gotta give him a nice reward! The child might be getting their revenge in future though 👀
@KiwiiPuma
@KiwiiPuma 9 ай бұрын
This is interesting, you should do more consistent content like this one on GBA games, like weapons, characters exploit that.
@tuvillo
@tuvillo 9 ай бұрын
As other people have said I think spending some time on what your parameters were would've been great. Slightly changing your starting parameters can change a lot- Like what if everyone had Steel weapons instead? Etc, etc. Did you run every fight once? Because evasion seems pretty interesting as well. Wyvern winning seems obvious to me, I remember playing Fire Emblem By Web back in the day and Wyverns were unfair with their ridiculous bases.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
That's fair, I didn't want to have the start of video too bogged down but it could have a little clearer for sure. Yeah I only reach each fight one time to keep things simple, it already took me hours to do this simple testing, but there's scope for a lot of fine tuning with multiple tests, different weapons etc
@RockPasta
@RockPasta 8 ай бұрын
The answer to "what is the best unit" is always a wyvern. But its nice to have a ladder.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 8 ай бұрын
You're not wrong :P
@fullmetal929
@fullmetal929 7 ай бұрын
I know this is probably a colassal amount of work, but I'd be curious to see it with larger sample size with some sort of standardization for who attacks first. Like, each match up ran 50 times with each side attacking first 25 times or something.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 7 ай бұрын
Yeah that'd be more comprehensive, but I'll leave it for someone else to do that, it took a silly amount of time just to do it once 😅
@milandeepak4895
@milandeepak4895 9 ай бұрын
Your video made me feel like playing fe sacred swords again
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Dew it
@aprinnyonbreak1290
@aprinnyonbreak1290 9 ай бұрын
They're a bit outside the norm for classes... but I assume manaketes are just built different from most units. Maybe also some of the other monster classes from FE8, since a lot of them have pretty high stats. Cyclopses, Gorgons, and Dracozombies especially, but I suspect Baels, the centaurs, and gargoyles might do decently as well.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Yeah manaketes are kinda cracked 😅 I think monster classes are different enough to be kept separate from the main classes, but maybe they could a video if their own
@TheScribeScribe
@TheScribeScribe 9 ай бұрын
This just emphasizes the importance of positioning and movement options. The best defense is a good offense in these games.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Completely agree. In the actual game, movement is the best stat, and 1-2 range weapons is the best thing you can have for combat
@jrguzzgg7294
@jrguzzgg7294 9 ай бұрын
You know, child sacrifice wasnt the first thing that came to mind when i first thought about strongest class in fire emblem GBA
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Gotta think outside the box 🧠
@Shenkie
@Shenkie 3 ай бұрын
This should be best of 5 for every MU
@phillipjones2924
@phillipjones2924 9 ай бұрын
Idk if this is possible but I would love to see it: All final bosses in the series going at it
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
I may or may not have plans to do just this 👀
@phillipjones2924
@phillipjones2924 9 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblem you've peaked my interest enough to subscribe
@iNastyJerk
@iNastyJerk 9 ай бұрын
Very Informative, I don’t know where I will use this knowledge but glad I have it nonetheless 😅
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
I'll be using the info to make a future series, but apart from that I dont think it's useful in any way 😅
@datbreadman7125
@datbreadman7125 9 ай бұрын
Bro spent genuine effort. Respected and subbed
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate it breadman 😊
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 9 ай бұрын
Wyvern riders are infamously hard to kill in FE 6 the Binding Blade Just ask mangs
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Fe6 Wyverns are indeed cracked. They slightly less dominant in 7 and 8 but they're still mad good
@haruhisuzumiya6650
@haruhisuzumiya6650 9 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblem while in the city level you are flanked by lots of wyvern riders mangs called it the "chapter from hell"
@Trades46
@Trades46 9 ай бұрын
Reminded me why I hated Hector hard mode - infinite spawning red Wyverns at you.
@johnnyfulton4755
@johnnyfulton4755 9 ай бұрын
It'd be interesting to have sort of online chess game based off of these classes.
@lsrrr3857
@lsrrr3857 9 ай бұрын
Maybe you should have tallied both going first and second together, and then have a win-draw-loss tally instead of just win
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Interesting idea. It's really hard to work out the best set up but that's a fair idea
@cedricdavis1670
@cedricdavis1670 9 ай бұрын
Would someone please think of the children 😢
@renegaderaven3777
@renegaderaven3777 9 ай бұрын
Get bodied, kid. But yeah, kind of expected that. Wyvern riders are just some of the best classes in the game. If you ever do a promoted unit version of this I’m sure wyvern lord will also perform admirably.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Kid deserved it :P Yeah I'll definitely do a preomoted sequel video, and I'm sure they'll do well in that too, but I feel like they might get the top spot taken from them?
@enigmatic3194
@enigmatic3194 5 ай бұрын
Why did the wyvern rider not get doubled by the mage as a red unit? Are the stats random each round? I know I'm 4 months late, but still. That really bugs me. Wouldn't setting their stats to be the average (round up or round down, up to you) at lv 20 be much more fair?
@Ytinasniiable
@Ytinasniiable 8 ай бұрын
It's interesting information But I feel like the data pool is far too small when considering RNG, eatch matchup should be at least the best of 7, to help with ensuring a win doesn't end up being fully decided by extreme RNG rolls Otherwise this could be used as a "target priority" guide to kind of give you a rough idea of which units are the biggest threat in any given chapter without taking any time to inspect their stats
@CSDragon
@CSDragon 9 ай бұрын
wait how did the archer have 3 wins (Soldier, Pegasus, Wyvern)? What happened to thief?
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
.... Er... Ah, yeah. I think I effed up 🤣
@catman9222
@catman9222 9 ай бұрын
Thief out here literally stealing wins
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Thief's gotta do what a thief's gotta do!@@catman9222
@CidAghast
@CidAghast 9 ай бұрын
This was pretty cool. Maybe do the promoted classes or fe8 next time
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
A lot of people seem to want the promoted classes testing so I guess I'm making a follow up video :P
@zekdom
@zekdom 9 ай бұрын
Heh, I guessed it was Sage. I was close enough :;) But yeah, I forget how tanky Wyverns can be.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Wyverns are hella scary, they're terrifying 😅
@Chunkosaurus
@Chunkosaurus 9 ай бұрын
​@@BadAtFireEmblemwhy do they get even a decent speed base in addition to ridiculous defense strength and hp to pair with great move and flying Like dang even in game a bunch of those guys around means you are playing very carefully
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
@@Chunkosaurus I think when they made fe6 they wanted Wyverns to be a hella scary enemy class and didn't care if they were balanced 😅 they just wanted Bern to be strong, and who cares if they're OP
@fullmetal929
@fullmetal929 7 ай бұрын
How did you do growth rates for stats? Because I have a lvl 15 colm in the playthrough I'm doing right now that has 11 str. I'm not sure how far outside of the norm that is, but 4 seems incredibly low
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 7 ай бұрын
It's the growth rates attached to the class which enemies use for calculating stats, not the person growth rates that a character like Colm had which override his class growths. It's all built into the game
@fullmetal929
@fullmetal929 6 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblem Oh, gotcha, that makes sense. I didn't realize there were growth rates attached to classes rather than characters. I'm a pretty casual player, tbh. Thanks for the answer!
@ShadowdaHedgie11
@ShadowdaHedgie11 5 ай бұрын
My prediction before watching: Mercenary. Edit: shit i forgot Wyvern Riders exist Not surprised that the thief ended up the lowest. Thief is more of a utility class and whenever there are enemy thieves, they're just there to steal stuff from the chests and will avoid combat when they can. Not surprised that the Pirate and the Brigand tied. They are so similar, and they even serve the same general purpose in the game, simply being a bandit class that destroys villages. The only different is that the Brigand can cross mountains, and the pirate can cross water.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I feel like the rankings for the unprompted classes were fairly predictable
@cardboardgaming101
@cardboardgaming101 3 ай бұрын
Bro your comment appeared in the comment bar and spoiled the winner for me 😭
@ShadowdaHedgie11
@ShadowdaHedgie11 3 ай бұрын
@@cardboardgaming101 oh no, I ruined the top class and literally none of the others. I’m sure there was no point in watching the video after that.
@DepressedMicaiahASMR
@DepressedMicaiahASMR 9 ай бұрын
Ephiram, because he takes castles and gives them back just for fun
@velvetbutterfly
@velvetbutterfly 9 ай бұрын
Shouldn't Archer have 4 wins, not 3? Thief, Soldier, Pegasus, Wyvern?
@lsrrr3857
@lsrrr3857 9 ай бұрын
the wins only tallies the particular class going first. Thief lost everything going first, but manage lucky wins going second sometimes
@min-min3160
@min-min3160 9 ай бұрын
​@@lsrrr3857 This is true for the Thief vs some of the Axefighters, but the Archer did beat the Thief (since the thief can't even do damage). So yeah, it would be 4 wins for the Archer.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
I did miscount for the archer, he did beat the thief as well so he should have 4 wins
@frog_muncher
@frog_muncher 9 ай бұрын
Actually, it would be really fun to simulate this in @RISK or a similar simulation tool.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Oh dear god, that's an insane idea! 🤣 ....... maybe it's something I could do at some point 👀
@marthsinclair3796
@marthsinclair3796 9 ай бұрын
If Pegasus Knight beat Monk then shouldn't that count as a tiebreaker for 11th?
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
You can think about it that way if you want to split hairs, yeah :)
@hagbardceline7118
@hagbardceline7118 9 ай бұрын
The best class is cavalier because the most important Stat is movement, moving again after doing non attack actions is huge as well. The arena doesn't really indicate the best class for the majority of the game. I just dump every non mounted unit that I can replace with a mounted unit at this point. Just paladins, flyers, troubadour, magic guys if needed or useful and lords. Balanced teams are for suckers
@LoliPeeSlurper
@LoliPeeSlurper 9 ай бұрын
The civilian child sprite is so cute 🥰🤤
@heiss9971
@heiss9971 9 ай бұрын
Subbed. Merlinus clears
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Thanks heiss 😊 Haha hell yes, merlinus best unit ❤️
@raputha1148
@raputha1148 9 ай бұрын
Changing lances and swords on the cavalier but not giving the pegasus a slim lance to double, smh unfair
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Fair comment honestly, I did them dirty 😅 would be interesting to see how much of a difference the slim lance would make
@PoliTamer
@PoliTamer 9 ай бұрын
I said to myself before this video that Wyvern Riders are the best class in the game due to their good damage + high defense + high mobility, but I didn’t think that they would win in a strictly combat scenario. Nevermind I guess! What is balance anyways?
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Balance is a lie, it never existed and it never will 😅
@indecentthinking
@indecentthinking 8 ай бұрын
I knew mages would be top 5. Every single game theyre one of my best performing units just due to them usually having high damage and how they usually double most units. A tie for second place is more than i had anticipated though, which is nice.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 8 ай бұрын
They're very strong for combat, and the fact they can get staves on promotion just makes them even more used
@lestade682
@lestade682 9 ай бұрын
Promoted next, great video.
@emred4653
@emred4653 6 ай бұрын
the ending lol
@fe7general837
@fe7general837 9 ай бұрын
So now youre gonna do the promoted classes and add monsters to milk out content right? Right???
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
I may have a couple ideas along those lines 👀
@fe7general837
@fe7general837 9 ай бұрын
Erm, subscribed???
@dimitrivanderschaaf4233
@dimitrivanderschaaf4233 9 ай бұрын
With iron zword some of them are usless but nmr 4 deserves the win the fire emblem version back i remmember that raven was awsome
@hank2815
@hank2815 9 ай бұрын
2 speed and 5 defence at level 20, 6 constitution, and no promotion. You can see why rom hackers (like myself) treat soldier classes with such love. They deserve it after what they’ve been through.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Yeah one of the first jobs for any hacker is to buff soldier bases and give them halberdier promotion
@iamr.o.b.therobot
@iamr.o.b.therobot 8 ай бұрын
How has the archer 3 wins? Pegasus, Wyvern and Soldier were mentioned, but the thief has 0 wins and did 0 dmg, so surely the archer has to have 4 wins?
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 8 ай бұрын
Yeah it's 4 wins, I misrecorded the result
@Exbeon
@Exbeon 7 ай бұрын
Thief mains represent 🫱🏼‍🫲🏽🙌🏻
@chrismolina2145
@chrismolina2145 4 ай бұрын
Is this proof that Sofia is viable??
@datbreadman7125
@datbreadman7125 9 ай бұрын
Wait, then why did you use the monk class? Its not in fe6
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Well I learned something today! I haven't played much fe6 compared to 7 and 8, and I never realised they aren't in fe6 😅
@datbreadman7125
@datbreadman7125 9 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblem yea, I was surprised to, light magic Is so underused in that game
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
@@datbreadman7125 light magic in general has a tough time, it just doesn't do much damage and monk class bases suck
@datbreadman7125
@datbreadman7125 9 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblem thank God for slayer and fe8 Luna being garbage
@trey9313
@trey9313 9 ай бұрын
Just from a damage standpoint, Assassin. Rng provides, you kill everything in one hit, regardless of what damage you'd normally do.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
ooh that's actually a really cool element, I hadn't thought of lethality. The sequel video with prepromotes is gonna be an interesting one
@jacksonhorrocks4281
@jacksonhorrocks4281 7 ай бұрын
Thus we see why you sadly only get 1 wyvren rider :(
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 7 ай бұрын
Yeahhh, they're too op to let you have 4 of them :P
@Smuggers.
@Smuggers. 9 ай бұрын
promoted units when?
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
I've got a couple videos in the works but I'll probably make it within the next month :)
@memeteam8274
@memeteam8274 9 ай бұрын
yea promoted units would go way differently. heros with axes and swords would wreck
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
We'll see how the sequel video turns out :P
@craigyeah1052
@craigyeah1052 9 ай бұрын
Haha great timing on me seeing this right after commenting on another video how magic classes feel so powerful, except monk, who's main benefit is beating the one who beats the mage. Sadly though, the shaman did not even lose to the monk xD Shameful really.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
That's great timing haha, yeah monks suck ass unfortunately, and magic classes are so strong because of 1-2 range and staff access
@criscros95
@criscros95 9 ай бұрын
Promoted class!!
@austin80112
@austin80112 8 ай бұрын
Feels weird to rate "power" of a class as just combat potential. Troubadours obviously have the worst combat, but are probably among the strongest t1 classes in terms of how much they improve your ability to clear a map. Cool evaluation, though.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 8 ай бұрын
It's just a bit of fun really, but yeah there's lots of other things more important. Canto, flying, movement, staff utility, thief utility etc
@milandeepak4895
@milandeepak4895 9 ай бұрын
Perhaps you could review all the fire emblem gba rom hacks.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
That's definitely something I'd like to do in the future, but probably not anytime soon
@JoanFarjasPastor
@JoanFarjasPastor 9 ай бұрын
hey you forgot the celric and athe dances i wood have like them to shou up but it dosent mater vbeocse thay cant atank
@quinnlee-miller9792
@quinnlee-miller9792 9 ай бұрын
Is anyone surprised at #1? Like, c'mon.
@RanOutOfSpac
@RanOutOfSpac 6 ай бұрын
Seth
@einjharrelraca
@einjharrelraca 9 ай бұрын
alright. before watching, my prediction is mercenery wins.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Not a bad prediction, they did perform very well. I think mages/shamans weren't able to attack at range for free then Merc probably would have taken the number 2 spot
@einjharrelraca
@einjharrelraca 9 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblem indeed. great video though. loved it :D
@jakenbakery3540
@jakenbakery3540 9 ай бұрын
why not give the peg a slim lance? i'd think you'd outfit each unit with the best weapon for that uni as long as it's in rank. very cool breakdown nonetheless!
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Cheers man, yeah I thought keeping everyone to iron weapons would be most fair, but it did screw over the peg a bit
@SinNun-tx5jp
@SinNun-tx5jp 9 ай бұрын
I bet mirm will hax his way out. Avo is quiet busted in gba
@SinNun-tx5jp
@SinNun-tx5jp 9 ай бұрын
Scuffed video. No nomad.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
I thought about them afterwards. It always annoyed me that they were taken out of fe8, not sure why they did it but hey ho 🤷‍♂️
@alexraj9436
@alexraj9436 9 ай бұрын
More than likely an assassin with a killing edge.
@alexraj9436
@alexraj9436 9 ай бұрын
Whoops just realized you said basic classes lol.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
I'll do a follow up video for promoted classes, so it'll be cool to see how assassin does, but I don't think I can give him a killing edge, that's just unfair 😅
@alexraj9436
@alexraj9436 9 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblem lol. swordmaster is also my fav but they tend to suck against generals and wyvern lords
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
@@alexraj9436 can't wait to see them crit for zero damage
@alexraj9436
@alexraj9436 9 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblem i think hector might get top spot bulky to handle attacks and decent speed, sage would also do well with decent speed and magic dealing nice damage
@hotmodelinbikini
@hotmodelinbikini 6 ай бұрын
Stats, stats. The best class in the game without a doubt throughout the series is the Paladin until they nerfed it. Top 3 in Damage and defense and moves a whopping 8 squares. Movement by far is the most op stat in any strategy game.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 6 ай бұрын
Yeah in an actual campaign scenario, paladins are very very good
@min-min3160
@min-min3160 9 ай бұрын
Curious what this data will be used for, pretty cool regardless. Glad the Monk could prove its worth kinda (or ig the worth of 1-2 range magic but still lol)
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Watch this space haha The main worth is still promoting for C rank staves, but they're not 100% useless in combat 😅
@jonathann.5754
@jonathann.5754 9 ай бұрын
Now i wonder how the promoted classes stack up I'd like to think sniper does better than archer did against it's peers
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
@@jonathann.5754 I'm gonna have to do a follow up video 😅 I hope they would do better, love my archer bros!
@ElectricLegend14
@ElectricLegend14 9 ай бұрын
Damn, that merc was so close to beating the armor knight...
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
He tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it didn't even matter ...
@Jadanbr
@Jadanbr 7 ай бұрын
​@@BadAtFireEmblem nice linkin park reference right there
@khan6690
@khan6690 9 ай бұрын
now this is content. I have a few questions: 1. What are the stats? I'm assuming its the expected value at level 20 based off the base + level up percentages. 2. Do you think crit chance should have played a role in this trial? 3. Did the Archer lose to the thief?
@Not_Alanius
@Not_Alanius 9 ай бұрын
While I'm not the creator of the video (infact I'm very much watching this video as the 1st time I've heard of this specific creator), but I think I can answer these. 1. We can assume the stats are rounded up to be somewhat close atleast to the average stats they should have at Lv. 20. 2. The crit chance (with the footage displayed) is comically enough only relavant with Monks, due to them being the only ones with a base weapon with a crit rate, that allows them to even think of critting enemies. 3. That was a guranteed L for the Thief, assuming the Archer had a hit rate.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the glowing review 😅 1. FE Builder has an auto level feature, so every unit was level 20 with the average stats they would have gotten after 19 level ups with the class' inherent growth rates. 2. The monk, Merc and myrmidon were the only classes that really had any crit rate, and the critd they got in the testing only made them win harder, it didn't let them win any battles they would have otherwise lost . 3. The thief did 0 damage to the archer, so he got stomped on
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
3. Updated: sorry, I just realised why you asked. Yeah I think I messed up, it should be 4 wins. That's my bad 😅
@khan6690
@khan6690 9 ай бұрын
​@@BadAtFireEmblem I'm surprised the thief does that little damage
@SageOfLegaia
@SageOfLegaia 9 ай бұрын
@@khan6690 The Thief class has a base strength of 3 and a 5% growth rate, so in this testing method he only has 4 Strength at level 20; with an Iron Sword, that means he only hits for 9 damage, so any class with 9 or more Defense takes 0 damage from him and he's guaranteed to lose. Doing a quick check through the video, most of the physical classes have 8 defense or more (Archers have 9), and the mages hover around 6 or 7, so he's generally doing 1-2 damage per hit, if he can even deal any damage at all. Shoutout to the Soldier class being the only one with only 5 Defense, graciously letting the Thief deal 4 damage to him before hitting back for 14.
@perr0263
@perr0263 9 ай бұрын
I never liked Wyvern Riders because I always saw them as very slow units, but my opinion changed in the last years
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Speed is the one thing they aren't amazing at, but they're still busted 😅 and the speed base isn't even that bad, it's still respectable. Friendly wyvern characters can almost always get to a point where they start doubling
@ZygonCannar
@ZygonCannar 9 ай бұрын
I don't even remember when the last Fire Emblem video I watched was and this was recommended to me. It was Kratos' Amelia only run though, so I guess maybe his viewers are getting this in their feed? lol
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Well I'm happy it reached you :) I do enjoy Kratos videos, I only found him relatively recently but he's very good
@iamthehobo
@iamthehobo 9 ай бұрын
Fun idea, subbed to see what you do in the future. Do classes with multiple weapons get both weapon types?
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much hobo! (feels weird calling someone a hobo), hope to see you in the comments on future vids :) Cav was the only one with multiple ranks and they did have a sword and a lance in their inventory. If I do a sequel with promoted units then most of them would get multiple weapons too
@hajoeijgenraam295
@hajoeijgenraam295 9 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblem wait the cavalier is the only unpromoted class with several weapon types?
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
@@hajoeijgenraam295 unless I'm being dumb?
@JC_Stone
@JC_Stone 9 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblemAs far as I’m aware, in vanilla GBA FE yes. I don’t think there are any other unpromoted units who can use multiple weapon types aside from the Cavalier.
@hajoeijgenraam295
@hajoeijgenraam295 9 ай бұрын
@@JC_Stone cavalier just has it all I guess
@john98765333
@john98765333 9 ай бұрын
2:34 Wouldn't archer have 4 wins? You said he beat both fliers, and the soldier, but he also bea tthe thief because the thief had 0 wins.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Yes I made a mistake, it should be 4 wins
@randaljr.8581
@randaljr.8581 5 ай бұрын
amazing! u should do this again, but with Everyone! including all of the promoted and special classes.
@Redkoinzell
@Redkoinzell 9 ай бұрын
like and subcribe for more content like this, i need to see this tipe of tournament with every class single class!
@leargamma4912
@leargamma4912 9 ай бұрын
I would say that for base classes, your pegesus knight and cavalier are your best in GBA fire emblem. Not due to stats or weapon advantages. But due to 2 things that this video did not test as much: canto/movement. With canto (being able to move after certain actions with the rest of the units movement) and high move, these units can not only contribute to combat, but also preform utility and side objectives with rescue chains, visiting villages, and generally getting to different places on the map faster than other units. This is on top of variable combat and decent stats accross the board.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
100% agree. This was purely a combat test, but movement is the best stat in the game, and that paired with canto is stupidly good. Obviously Wyverns still have those benefits alongside the great combat, but I'd definitely rate cav and peg very highly
@westube3493
@westube3493 2 ай бұрын
Where would nomads place?
@FeeshieBoi
@FeeshieBoi 9 ай бұрын
I assume you intentionally skipped the nomad class? You said you wanted to test the vanilla base classes in all the GBA games, but the nomad wasn't there.
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
I remembered nomad after the videos. They're not present in fe8 at all so I could have imprted their class into the game but didn't. Would have been interesting to see if they were much better than the archer
@TwoHeadedMeerkat
@TwoHeadedMeerkat 9 ай бұрын
Would the Thief at least potentially get a win against a Priest?
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like a fairly even fight 😅
@RajamQED
@RajamQED 9 ай бұрын
Cool video; it would be interesting to do this same thing with FE7 (FE6 & FE8) main characters with their 20/20 average stats
@min-min3160
@min-min3160 9 ай бұрын
A tournament to prove who's the strongest* (*After 500 turns of grinding) in each game does sound pretty neat ngl
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
I may or may not have planned to this is the future 👀
@joanfarjas4836
@joanfarjas4836 9 ай бұрын
This probs that armor kints ara bad they have les moven perfom wordt than brigans sord users dobto being uncapabul of fating magic units and at the bery lest the archer has esfective dameg but tey ara asou rely bad becouse tehy lost to the solder
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Yeah they're not the best, and 4 move just hurts to use, it sucks
@excylis3599
@excylis3599 9 ай бұрын
Didn't expect this channel to be so new after watching
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
Yah I'm a newb 😅 It's great to see so much support on the channel though!
@peejae082004
@peejae082004 9 ай бұрын
If you included advanced classes, assassins rock as long as they crit lol
@BadAtFireEmblem
@BadAtFireEmblem 9 ай бұрын
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