What is Type?

[@crosslofttipplerspigeons8227]

Great and informative one. Good to see you back online

[@paulwindler3040]

Great video as always with some great content. I always like interviews with other fliers and a tour of their setups. Keep those videos coming.

[@damiangivens5822]

Wow, that was a long vacation ,lol . Glad to is see that your back. After watching that video with you and Richard I started putting my pairs together muscle to muscle and muscle to small type hen, my kit boxes are amazing

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Damian Givens excellent

[@acerollerlofts5555]

Great to see you again! Very informative video!!!

[@daz9873]

Welcome back smitty i,ve been waiting in anticipation for a few months now for you to get some vids on.....by the way excellent content very informative , upload more often

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Moor is on the way thank you for your support always appreciated

[@tjteja]

great information 👍 keep it coming.

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Thanks for your support it’s appreciated

[@abetntwarrios8882]

Nice pigeons I've been dealing with colors since 1990 but they got to have brains colors M performance those three ingredients have to stay together if they want to stay with me

[@peterramos5748]

Hi bro I'm new sub from Phil..nice birds.more vid...

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Big shout out to my people from Pinoi power

[@TheArsenal187]

Kickass info, thanks for sharing

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Thank you for your support you are very welcome

[@rufusmason7670]

Glad to see you back

[@gl36]

Great video

[@petpot1962]

Going to definitely start with this approach going forward. I know you have done a video on colour types but I think a lot of beginners struggle with some of the markings e.g. A blue bar, bald head or badge, with white flights and so on. I really struggle with that so I can properly describe a birds colour and markings for my records. It would be great if you could do a video on that.

[@ajSvenegas]

Excellent!

[@emilybritton8703]

Thanks Sam for taking some time out to your day to make this video. We miss you man.

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

My pleasure I do it for people like you

[@emilybritton8703]

The Roller Pigeon Evolution Smitty Sam quick question we have been searching for a product you have recommended but seems to be discontinued Wazine , what other product would you recommend for deworming your birds? Thanks!

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Ivommec is one of the best

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

You can find it at Jedds of Anaheim

[@emilybritton8703]

The Roller Pigeon Evolution Smitty Thanks for getting back to us

[@ornelassergio4277]

Finally!!! I've been waiting for new videos.. please don't do that to us again. Lol

[@Roller_Pigeon_fancier]

You can say that again

[@kabelomoloi9984]

@@Roller_Pigeon_fancier hey do you also have roller pigeons? I'm in South Africa

[@keenanedwards8000]

Nice to see you back smitty!!!!

[@steveconnor5388]

Thanks Sam for today's lesson

[@CamDatanagan]

Great information

[@omarjabbar336]

Great explanation, I love your way and I started to follow it, I have muscles males brothers crossed them with two smaller longer in body type sisters, produced 7 so far I didn’t fly them yet due to winter here in Canada but they will be my team for spring this year 2021. I don’t usually keep pigeons for breeding, I fly all from April to Oct and from Oct to March I breed, my theory that if you don’t fly then you are gone.

[@whitehouseloft5205]

Thanks for sharing your video. Great information for all of us pigeon lovers.

[@morrycamara6110]

I love your videos I’m learning a lot keep it up 💪🏿

[@PitbullPlayboy95]

I like the different ethnicity groups from all cultures is 🔥🔥

[@jokersalive1529]

We have talked about this at Hectors house I've been trying it out since and have noticed the type is better but since I started late because of B.P's have not seen the roll yet hoping next year to advance my % of good bird's/Champions ✌👍👍👍😎

[@rico2ace]

Excellent video, I liked the bit when u talked about big mussel cock bird on to smaller hens pairing, ave always done that, thanks to you guys keep up loading videos ur doing a great job, shout out to Danny the camera man, big Dog and sam Smitty👍🏼👌🏻💯

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Thanks for your support

[@fearmeknot588]

Keep It Up!!

[@cnt7596]

I have a lot of checkers and blue bars but they all have brown, white, and Bronze but how do you make a black bird?

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

You can breed a blue bar with a lavender or an ash red and you should get blacks

[@ninob9425]

what is your "Ideal" flying Roller ?

[@hamzakhan9597]

White colour over eye, need to check that out on my birds!!

[@elizabethfinley2558]

I live in Philadelphia i love the pigeon, especially the black ones that look like they have lace in white on their wings , an one white one that has a rusty color stripe across his wings are they all different breeds an normal grey and black

[@pickingtunes]

Awesome ,what is a breeding pair go for these days?

[@ksoonsoon]

A second question, in Richard’s video from about seven months ago talking about the muscle breeding concept, he mentions that he outcrosses a lot in his program and that he has many birds from many different families in his loft to do that with. My understanding is you do not out-cross when you are working on this program within your families. How do you avoid some of the negative side effects of inbreeding and line breeding when you don’t outcross at all? I believe someone else raised the same or a similar question in the comments as well. Thanks much.

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Using this theory out crossing is necessary in any type of line breeding if you don’t cross you will breed yourself into a corner in Richard‘s case what he was saying the original base of his family is made up of a large percentage of our crosses mostly 514 birds but they were all from different breeders but the base was 514 that is how he established. His family in the beginning if he finds a bird that has treats and attributes that he would like to bring into his family he outcrosses to bring those traits and attributes in and when he’s finished the original birds are removed keeping only those birds that show the traits that were desirable

[@lcutie36]

More loft visits !! Hit up them other legends !!

[@crosslofttipplerspigeons8227]

Great video as usual. Just a quick question please. Why some rollers don’t roll but we still call them Rollers? I see that clearly in my bald head ones

[@klphoenixrollers3030]

With that being said, how do you cultivated for performance?

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Performance is always cultivated from the air using the system any hens can be stocked from the air when producing flyers Coxs that carry muscle are cultivated in the loft and never flown Cocks are not stocked from the air unless they carry outstanding muscle

[@nikkitheunissen1336]

What is the difference between rollers and long distance pigeons

[@ricardogomez7672]

Hello Smitty, my name is Ricardo Gomez , I just wanted to ask you if you can share any progress on the blue star family ? Thanks for sharing your thoughts and knowledge .

[@chicagobirminghamrollercom8994]

Good job guys.

[@darrelljohnson4891]

Does type work with homer pigeons as well? As far as short, middle, long distance flyers?

[@nikkitheunissen1336]

Where can I find the Richard Opadocka theory ( a specific website or book ? )

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

He doesn’t have either a website or a book this is knowledge that I’m trying to make sure that people have an opportunity here this is his perspective and way of doing things thanks for watching make sure you subscribe

[@dannyayala9962]

Great video. very interesting. I would like to see more videos of some birds in the air if the birds of prey allow you to do so over there at this time.

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Twelve 6 Spinners birds in the air video coming soon you will love it trust me

[@ksoonsoon]

The Roller Pigeon Evolution Smitty Make it so . . .

[@davidshea8294]

Smitty, Can you get flying kit birds ,off of one parlor bird?

[@ninob9425]

Smitty, about Bull eye, in pigeons, orange is Dominant to pearl or grey eyes, if you mate two birds that are Pure ( homozygous) for orange in this case, all you will get is orange eyed birds, they simply do not have anything else to offer. White on their heads have nothing to do with bull . I have right now all white headed boirds that have pearl eyes, and no bull eyes, As a matter of fact they only produce more pearl eyed ybs because that is what they have geneticaly for eye color, same if they were orange.

[@nikkitheunissen1336]

If you have a kit of birds that are rollers should they all be family or related

[@pthaoss10]

Can you do a video and showing all the types but in a really good angle so we can see better n know what type to look for thanks..

[@thaheartstoppa]

Hey smitty do you sell pigeons

[@tessangu5034]

Im in Zimbabwe.... How can i get these birds bro... 🙇

[@nikkitheunissen1336]

Hi Smitty can a roller pigeon fly long distance's as well as homer pigeons ?

[@davechristensen8299]

Many people try to attach mystical properties to things like eye color. It doesn't matter.

[@nickfeathersscroogemcduck4755]

I'm in NYC, & i have 6 bald head rollers, & I'm looking for a roof or back yard to keep them & fly them. They're in kick boxes. I'm willing to pay to use the roof or back yard.

[@juliosdiy3206]

Oh yeah no wonder why few of my homers dont fly because they tend to breed well. Thats awesome.

[@dominicakens2307]

the best in the roller business

[@Roller_Pigeon_fancier]

Sir is it possible to do a series of 5pairs in your KZbin channel where you update with one clip every week on those five pairs (breeding progress) of those youngs we got out of those five pairs grow for 35days ?

[@Roller_Pigeon_fancier]

1st clip Filming that pair when you choose their partners 2nd clip Filming the birds when they laid eggs 3rd clip Filming the youngsters when they've hatched 4th Filming them when they grow color 5th clip Filming them when they start eating by themselves Last clip. Filming them when they start flying for them selves.

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Thanks for the idea I will consider it I appreciate your support and make sure you subscribe and tell a friend

[@youraveragemarketsocialist4930]

Hi Smitty .Since you live in California i am pretty sure you are familiar with Iranian high flying pigeons . I would like to know your thought on high flying pigeons .I also notice how your birds roll which is different kind of roll that i experienced from the birds i had back home .I used to fly about 50 pigeons about three to four of them roll which was different kind of roll. The birds spin the one that roll fly about six to ten feet vertically then they do three to four roll and start spinning again .I was wondering if you know what causes the bird to roll different than yours.

[@ninob9425]

why don't you show us all the written Standard for this type of Roller ? How many roller fancier's do what you are preaching , and what are their successes ?

[@Yusuf-s2l4g]

Thanks

[@dumitrud.3077]

hello, my name is dimitri , first of all i apologize for my poor english . i have one question for you and that would be where do the baby pigeons take the most of their flying skills from ? the father or the mother ? i understand that a cock determine the muscle but which one of the parents determine the flight ? thank you very much .

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

I think flying skills are something that are inherited from both parents it’s been my experience that some birds are poor flyers both of the parents may display this characteristic or only one so I think it’s one of those factors that both parents contribute to flying habits and their ability to kit

[@depthbrewedrollers.8793]

Smithy/Danny: thanks again for another video. Interesting theory, I respect it, but wouldn’t use it since I follow other methods. You mentioned what would the audience like to see more of? How about depth. birds with depth and control each time it hits the sky. Thanks guys.

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Depth brewed rollers. I respect that this is an alternative method to reach a shared goal of producing superior spinners

[@Fblacki]

What’s the theory you spoke about regarding Zeus and his brother. Where can you find that informations.

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Mr.Fabian Blackman This theory is the brainchild of Richard Apodaka he has spent 40 years developing and proving it I am just being it to the masses And have put it into practice in my loft with great results

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Zeus was the first generation his children are generation two their youngsters will fly that will be generation three

[@mahmoudalkhreesh684]

Very nice

[@seagrumford8199]

Have you tried this mating style with other family's? if so, how did it work?

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

I am currently applying it to several other families I will share my findings

[@felixrodriguez6962]

Sam Smitty you're the best you know your s***God bless you and your family and your birds you got some beautiful birds I like your style the way you carry yourself b u t t a s loft Long island Suffolk county New York

[@ajithmanchery9838]

Zeus is carrying indigo? In a breeding pair who give the quality of that particular breed to their young's male or female?

[@ernestjohnston1882]

does this therory apply to other breeds of pigeons

[@QBDad18]

what is the advantage that Richard explained to you with this method? from what I recall in the video he doesn't try to "develop" a tight gene pool and said he "outcrosses", is this right?

[@QBDad18]

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[@QBDad18]

this is where it tells he has ONLY outcrossed...

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

He actually breeds from a very tight group of birds now in the beginning when he was formulating his base of his family he crossed in many different birds from many different breeders mostly 514 birds but from several sources along with other families he does three-quarter mating and sister mating and in some cases a form of line breeding but he does work with a tight group of birds if he find something that he likes within another family he will introduce it without hesitation he’s constantly trying to improve his quality speed and performance

[@mozakpower1280]

Good video

[@klphoenixrollers3030]

I agree with selecting cock birds with muscle, but they have to have the performance traits to support high performance.

[@ksoonsoon]

klphoenixrollers From a conversation with Smitty, it is assumed that all his Muscle breeders come from proven performing stock as all his family is very closely related and, as he stated in another of his videos, he almost does zero cross breeding so he knows what he’s working with. So I agree with you and he does support that theory. Thx

[@ayadalnagar9767]

It’s always by the hen I don’t remember the last time I had a bird that looked like it’s father!

[@l.o.r410]

Who Dis I get birds all the time that looks exactly like their father. You just need to pair them right and know exactly what the birds will throw.

[@kingschannel6835]

18:08 why are the birds eyes different colour ?

[@ninob9425]

i wonder if Pensom would agree with your theories on breeding ?

[@AJsRealm]

Why don’t you post anymore?

[@jokersalive1529]

Q: Im probably bugging But do you believe in Eye Sign and if so can you Describe it as best as you can

[@l.o.r410]

Jokersalive 1 Eye sign don’t mean much. But just look out for crack eyes or bullseye. Those are traits that can be passed down to the birds offsprings. Other than that, it’s just your own perspective on pearl eye or orange etc.

[@laughitup3117]

Can a all white pigeon and a all brown pigeon suppose to have all black baby all the time because I have them.I just annoyed because I want brown a white ones but I get black.Please respond.

[@davezclazzic]

i have been trying to reach you about picking up some birds from you or if you can refer me to someone , great videos brother ... god bless

[@jamesjenkins9635]

Make a pimp video because imma a pimp! Good video Sam 👍

[@viralvidsrepository4632]

Is it difficult to move to a new location with this type of pigeon? I'm interested in getting into this, but I will probably be moving into a new house in about 2 years. I know with homing (racing) pigeons that can be almost impossible.

[@gaybethany]

Make a video on the tim decker birds you have seen and used

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

I do have some excellent Decker birds thanks for the idea

[@davidbailey4533]

Do hens dictate type in racing pigeons.

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

It would be my opinion there is no difference hens would still dictate type

[@dogenthusiast8729]

I know it’s been 3 yrs since this video was uploaded about Richard’s theory that worked for him. Just checking in with folks who practiced this theory. What was your result? Did it increase your percentage of performance?

[@pharmacistpoint227]

Hi. Have a good day. I am interested in to produce colors pigeons of unique combination. Would you have chart of breeding expectations. Which factor or gene or modifier has what type of affect or role in color of birds. Thank Hussain Shah

[@ninob9425]

Just using Corrective Matting , tell it the way it is.

[@pigeonman7483]

Lets talk about Hawks!!! How can we get rid off them....they been killing my birds.

[@Confederatemule]

Will this theory apply to Homers and Tumblers?

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

I don’t see why it wouldn’t apply to tumblers and racing homers although I’ve never tried it on either of those braids If you do try the system please let me know what your results are I would be very interested to know

[@Confederatemule]

Thanksfor you reply. If Ido I will let you know how it works for me.

[@princevaldez6111]

Make a video about breeding saddles

[@ninob9425]

Still selling the same stuff. Try breeding for an Ideal size for a roller , you may be impressed.

[@ster4465]

Can you make a video how to pair up pigeon

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

I definitely well

[@ronaldjones7564]

How old should you stop breeding bird.

[@timdyer1220]

I am new to pigeons...period. I know nothing. If your breeders are never flown, how is it that you keep the rolling performance going? Is the rolling not a genetic trait? Like I said, I know nothing about pigeons

[@praveennayaka4851]

Bro Pigeon lover from India...!

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Shout out to my Indian brothers good to hear from you

[@ninob9425]

Still no comment on my question ? What no answers ?

[@ninob9425]

Are you saying that each and every hen that is produced from this theory are of the same TYpe ? That's each and every one produced, or are you just using Selection ?

[@THEFALCON58]

Hi from D,Ks loft Perth Western Australia beginner in Birmingham rollers (shout out, please )

[@nikkitheunissen1336]

Q : how can pigeons lock in other pigeons from other lofts

[@randolsteepleton5627]

Smitty flies young kit with watching on phone cant see all the rolls at all just dots on the scene

[@stefanghelmecencu9933]

Teoria asta este valabila la toate rasele cu joc si zbor?

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Stefan Ghelmecencu Obrigad

[@stefanghelmecencu9933]

Does this theory apply to all game and flight races? Thanks!

[@stefanghelmecencu9933]

that's what I'm trying to say.😁

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Yes definitely I have noticed this in my game birds I currently don’t have any but when I did have them yes you are right on the money

[@countryboy348]

Hey

[@happysihaniya4491]

Hey can you sell me some birds ?

[@happysihaniya4491]

Hey Sam can u sell me some birds ?

[@EP_Offcial]

Nice video. Do an almond mating video.

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

Thanks for the great idea

[@EP_Offcial]

@@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763 no problem. hopefully i get mention when you make the video. I've been having bird since i was six and now I'm barely getting into the genetic about the bird, you've helped me put a lot. Thank you.

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[@ninob9425]

Sorry, your thoughts on what creates a bull eye, is totally off the top and not accurate. Its all about their genetics ! Thanks.

[@ninob9425]

Hi Smitty, sorry but i don't agree with this theory you are pushing. I do enjoy your videos but you do not show us the hens that produced these Muscle birds, very important factor. Why not Breed to your "Ideal" in what you want in a roller. Typically mating a overly large bird with a much smaller bird will give "unpredictability" in their offspring. Better to mate at least one that is "Ideal" in T"ype" and that is what you will do better with.

[@therollerpigeonevolutionsm7763]

It’s not a theory it’s my experience and that of many others I don’t disagree with your experience either