What learning a new language feels like

Ver and Petra are teaching each other Korean, Japanese, and Cantonese to open their respective vocabulary and abilities to reach out to international audiences. However, Ver spices things up when he tries to teach Korean tongue twisters that perplexes Petra into saying "This sounds like when people are trying to be racist against Chinese“ since she has no clue what she’s saying and is just reading off sounds. It's not until Petra confuses Ver with a Cantonese phrase that he gets what it feels like to learn a new language.
For reference on the Korean tongue twister: 간장공장 공장장은 강 공장장이고,된장공장 공장장은 공 공장장이다 (The manager of the soy sauce factory is factory manager Kang, and the factory manager of the soybean paste factory is factory manager Kong). The Cantonese phrase Petra used: ​嗰個哥哥高過嗰個哥哥 (or as she typed it: gorgor gorgor goh gor gorgor gorgor).
Sources:
Korean Learning stream 29Mar2023: • 【LEARNING KOREAN】한국어 배...
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[@pc_suffering6941]

a Chinese and a Korean afraid of being called racist for misspelling eachothers language lmao

[@karkatvantas978]

To be fair, they did almost have a whole war about it

[@pc_suffering6941]

@@karkatvantas978 what, when? fr?

[@karkatvantas978]

@@pc_suffering6941 I mean like china took over north Korea for a while, so America took over south Korea, it's called the forgotten war. It was super fucked. If you remember the "suicide is painless" Ugandan knuckles thing, that song came from a movie called m.a.s.h, it was based around that war. They made a TV show with it too, it has it's dark moments, but it's really funny if you take into account the time period it was made in

[@karkatvantas978]

@@pc_suffering6941 it's actually how North and South Korea got founded

[@pc_suffering6941]

@@karkatvantas978 oh, like 1950s Korean War when Soviet jets and Chinese men alone almost helped DPRK beat the South and entire NATO? Yeah, I know that one, but since China supported one of the Koreas, I fail to see how that war is Chinese-Korean

[@StuNo]

she's so real for that

[@aiveiun]

Why do you have 0 replies but 11k likes. Is my phone glitching

[@StuNo]

@@aiveiun no one wanna talk to me :(

[@KittyMurp]

@@StuNo I talk to you! Most of my replies have like 3 likes and 100 replies XD

[@StuNo]

@@KittyMurp sounds like you know how to stir up a discussion LMAO

[@Archer34-07]

Hello 😊

[@angelberry2777]

That Cantonese tongue twister is my favourite one to tell people cos theyre always like "wtf thats a sentence and you're not just making noises???" lmaoo

[@araciaearth]

I literally never heard of that tounge twister tho, the most common one I used to hear is the crazy spider’s spider web stuck to a tree branch

[@ayszhang]

​@@araciaearth There are plenty of tongue twisters in Canto😂 just cuz you haven't heard of it doesn't mean anything

[@araciaearth]

@@BlueBerry-rw5gs nah, the “tall” word is definitely Cantonese

[@ren_0260]

Y’all should do the “[when] entering the lab room press the emergency button”, that one’s pretty hard imo

[@araciaearth]

@@ren_0260 I always say "genn" when saying "press" lmao, that is the only hard part for me 😅

[@AliceRinGameLand]

The way he looks at us after she says it, his brain was working hard

[@ilunaticlipper]

Why does the pronunciation of Korean words always sound so beautiful tho 🥺

[@owl_ranch]

Yea it does! …. Until your parents start yelling at you in it 💀

[@fonsineknshr]

​@@owl_ranchevery language ever:

[@owl_ranch]

@@fonsineknshr lmao true

[@matyarsonic4254]

Racist

[@johndilig6719]

It is possible that you admire it a lot, yourself. I'm the same way to the Japanese language, but that's cuz I'm a weeb 😅.

[@yangjungwon1130]

I speak Cantonese and I’m pretty surprised when I heard Petra saying that- HONESTLY I HAD TO TRY A FEW TIMES BEFORE SAYING THE SENTENCE

[@Bronya-oneechannnn]

Really?? 😭 I thought it was really easy (also can speak cantonese)

[@sleepygummi]

DAMN is THAT what Cantonese sounds like to other people?! I feel so bad for them 😭

[@yangjungwon1130]

@@sleepygummi idk I mean Cantonese has a lot of like sounds even though it’s similar to mandarin, mandarin only has 4 sounds and Cantonese probably has 9..? I’m not suree

[@tubatuwariwari.]

It’s hard man

[@Amphoris]

Same😭

[@TheGelatinousSnake]

“I feel like I am doing… a racism… here, try this one.” “Dang, I see what you mean. Feels pretty racist”

[@Samurai_soup]

exactly i be thinking the same thing everytime i try another language 😭

[@proxy90909]

As a Mexican I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt if the only word you associate with spanish is "Taco" and you just go "I dont speak taco" I 100% aprove and endorse it, if there is one single thing you take away from our culture Tacos is one of the best options cause tacos are great

[@seraphvermilion7688]

I find it so weird how the pitch of there voices change when speaking a different language. She went from high pitch to low pitch. Edit: where did this 2.3k come from?!

[@iceran9822]

It’s very normal, a lot of languages have different sounds that others don’t have, this ends up changing your voice. For example in Dutch G makes a very guttural sound that basically doesn’t exist in English. My voice changes when I speak Portuguese, English or Dutch. It feels kind of weird at first but you get used to it

[@thepinapple8829]

It's a comfort thing I believe. The more fluent and comfortable you are in a language the deeper your voice is.

[@icyplayer1194]

​@@thepinapple8829 dunno my voice is high pitch whether I speak English ot Spanish.. only sounds deep when I get angry o-o'

[@blu4get]

cantonese is tonal, so she probably needs to start lower so that the high tones are discernible

[@user-ip1kl9kv4x]

Its kind of a cantonese thing. The pitch is important so...

[@itz_zoenotzoey]

Me who speaks fluent Cantonese: Oh my god YEAHHH

[@wyattdupre2721]

Sometimes I think "Asian languages are crazy" but then I remember you can make a grammatically correct sentence just using Buffalo in English

[@maggiem6209]

What? 😆 I've heard some funny things you can do with English, and I tutor English sometimes, but I've never heard this one.

[@ReiKurotsuki]

​@@maggiem6209It's true. This is my understanding of it: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo Buffalo. Buffalo (adj.) buffalo (noun) [who] Buffalo (adj.) buffalo (noun) buffalo (verb) [in turn] buffalo (verb) [other] Buffalo (adj.) buffalo (noun). Buffalo as an adjective can refer to buffalo from Buffalo, NY, or just the specific type of buffalo, I guess? Been a minute since I thought about this, haha. Buffalo is also a verb, like to confuse or intimidate. I hope that made sense!

[@TheClari25]

​@ReiKurotsuki this confuses my brain and English is my native language 😂

[@emmakarlsson7703]

There's something similar but not exactly in swedish with the word for sheep "far, får får får, nej, får får inte får, får får lamm"-"father, does sheep have sheep, no, sheep don't have sheep, sheep have lambs" roughly translated

[@FiredAndIced]

The Cantonese tongue twister is: "嗰個哥哥高過嗰個哥哥" (go2 go3 go4 go1 gou1 gwo/go3 go2 go3 go4 go) The Korean tongue twister is: "간장 공장 공장장은 장 공장장이고 된장 공장 공장장은 강 공장장이다" (an-jang gong-jang gong-jang-jang-eun jang gong-jang-jang-i-go doen-jang gong-jang gong-jang-jang-eun gang gong-jang-jang-i-da).

[@yangjungwon1130]

Holy shit, I’m Chinese myself and NOT ME HAVING GO GO ATTACK I SWEAR MY MOM LOOKED AT ME FUNNY

[@samlee5549]

God I'm Korean but raised in HK so I'm better at the first one than the second one. My Halaboji would be so disappointed in me.

[@yangjungwon1130]

@@samlee5549 It makes sense cuz you're more familiar with cantonese since you're raised there. And one is much shorter than the other one so-

[@BramLastname]

Look, the fact that go has more than 2 pronunciations makes that language basically impossible for me.

[@lanceokami3567]

Why does Cantonese romanization have numbers?

[@pheonixangel_]

The conversations between a Chinese person and a Korean (that’s my assumption with their understand of the languages so well) 😂

[@aeraaureliawashereonce]

Understandable

[@astar1_]

I'm Korean and Petra's trial is really impressive! OMG Her speed and pronunciation sounds like more Korean than me 😂 (I think it's because we don't have much intonation in Korean, so it's easy to read/speak and sounds like native speaker lol)

[@Bonbon.G]

It’s probably also cuz cantonese has trained her pitch and tone distinction

[@kawaiichu5102]

There is a Chinese tongue twister and it means: four is four, ten is ten, fourteen is fourteen, forty is forty sì shì sì, shí shì shí, shí sì shì shí sì, sì shí shì sì shí, sì shí sì shì sì shí sì.

[@vetayamale1830]

Why does this sound like your laughing?

[@Envi_sage]

*insert lee laugh*

[@SkyeIsland77]

I forgot how to read apparently

[@_sweet_rain_]

I will type that mandarin tongue twister out: 四是四，十是十，十四是十四，四十是四十

[@i-slay-better-than-haters]

@@_sweet_rain_ OH MY GOD I WAS READING THAT IN CANTONESE

[@senainvanapeldoorn8484]

Man i love this, so wholesome🥰

[@potatoprsk]

Welcome to tonal usage LOL

[@katerynamaks]

裏庭には二羽、庭には二羽鶏がいる。 uraniwa niwa niwa, niwa niwa niwa niwatori ga iru There are two chickens in the backyard and two in the garden.

[@hinoki_321]

Is that the name of a manga drawn by the author of chainsawman

[@maggiem6209]

I had to try that one a few times. 😆

[@ReiiiReiiiii]

I feel like goofy would be good with the Cantonese one

[@Cecilian_Does_Art]

I speak cantonese and that tounge twister is literally hard asf

[@MhyunMhyun]

at least she was honest abt it haha

[@evil_ferret]

Me who knows Cantonese already but took 15 min to fully process the tongue-twister:

[@moonythespoonie9551]

I'm reminded of the lion-eating poet story

[@FiredAndIced]

You mean 施氏食獅史 (Shī-shì shí shī shǐ)?

[@moonythespoonie9551]

@@FiredAndIced Pretty sure that's the one, yeah!

[@galaxy_mira]

Him being so surprised of her being so good at his tongue twister was so cute for some reason

[@OmegaQuinn]

I love how nice they both were about the phrases and not wanting to sound racist.

[@shiz3nn_0905]

The way she made him say "gawk gawk" in a smooth criminal way is truly astonishing

[@jeonjunkfood]

ver just sounds like he's doing the freddy hor hor hor hor hor

[@MisterReese15]

"Bababa ba? bababa" moments

[@micahlazo8011]

That's my favorite one as a Filipina. We laughed so hard when our family member's husband (who is not Filipino and doesn't really know Tagalog) heard that exchange and was so confused

[@LavendelFeder]

But honestly, is there any language (that's not your native one) in which you trying to say a tongue twister, doesn't sound like you're being 'disrespectful'? 😂

[@tychoderkommentator2989]

I think german is pretty good, because our tongue twisters are more about chaining really complicated words, than chaining similar sounding words. "Blaukraut bleibt Blaukraut und Brautkleid bleibt Brautkleid" "Fischers Fritz fischt frische Fische, frische Fische fischt Fischers Fritze" "Im dichten Fichtendickicht sind dicke Fichten wichtig, dicke Fichten nicken im dichten Fichtendickicht tüchtig."

[@blankdextr]

polish, królowa karolina kupiła królowi karolowi korale koloru koralowego

[@eyan12]

Omg her korean pronunciation was on point!!

[@martymcfly5220]

As a Chinese person I've made fun of my cousins with that

[@amosuzumaki5757]

THESE 2 AND THEIR LAUGHS ARE ADORABLE WHAT THE HECK

[@bobmcguffin5706]

So is that the Cantonese John where Bill had had had had etc.?

[@useraccount333]

The Korean tongue twister is a bit like "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?" The Cantonese tongue twister is a bit like "Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo."

[@leonya8392]

PETRA WHY ARE U SO ADORABLEEEE

[@Familyfirst6695]

日今さみａ　物理位に　sなぴんshいts:smidida😂

[@aexcottie7055]

Here is a popular german one: "Fischers Fritz fischt frische Fische, frische Fische fischt Fischers Fritz"

[@kaelanmcalpine2011]

I'm guessing this has something to do with a man named Fishers Fritz fishing fish

[@LazySpirits]

god i have flashbacks to my mom saying "brother's" (or something liek that, idk just talking about my brother) coz i just hear her saying "go go go go" (idk how the "cantonese pinyin' works coz my mom speaks to us in cantonesenglish and we learn manderin)

[@Lily_Haruka]

Her Cantonese is so much better then mines D;

[@Vilhelm1229]

Petra is so relatable tho

[@dkf315]

That is why some people say Cantonese is like a bird (chicken) language 😅

[@syul.01]

As a Korean this was so ducking adorable to watch😭

[@cc9079]

Petra's so precious

[@icecreamcake6238]

Isn't that Korean tongue twister in the lyrics for AkMu - 200%? It sounds familiar lol

[@jiminycr1cket]

a part of it is ye

[@_pawzdoesstuff]

there's a mandarin one that's basically "when you eat grapes you don't spit out the grape skin, when you DONT eat grapes you instead spit out the skin"

[@okie956]

chi pu tao bu tu pu tao pi, bu chi pu tao tu pu tao pi

[@okie956]

i had a stroke just thinking about the pronunciation

[@goku_dunker_420]

lmao wasn't expecting Petra to say that

[@2ndbrain909]

I feel like this is the equivalent of looking at a color with someone and trying to decide what shade it is, but with my ears and language instead of color.

[@simpp1218]

I remembered a EZ short one in my language which is Thai. Mai mhai mai mai (ไม้ใหม่ไม่ไหม้) Which means the new wood aren't burn

[@x.midnight_desu.x]

As someone who's fluent in English and two more languages and is learning Korean, Mandarin and Japanese rn, I can confirm that that's exactly how it feels like sometimes.

[@uki39]

Thank you for the detailed description. Very helpful ❤

[@archerhitthetarget]

How much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a would chuck could chuck wood

[@weirdogirl1275]

I love her laugh so much! it is infectious!

[@grinninglolita4434]

I could literally feel my brain short circuiting but this was low key adorable to watch

[@coffeedemon6909]

i love how respectful and understanding they are to each other tho😭💞

[@LesterXSasuke]

Lmao

[@siriusstella2626]

This is so cute!

[@ebruni9169]

gosh i love them, but imma just do a small correction. its "that brother is older than that brother", not "that guy", but yes i love that tongue twister

[@yvonnesun2311]

I think she just used the more colloquial form of 哥哥 as a translation since we usually use it as a polite way of addressing older male adolescent/young adult. Kind of the same as how you probably would not translate your friend's dad, Mr. Smith, as "uncle" in English because "uncle" in English implies that there is somewhat of a familial tie.

[@Yinn6]

this is so wholesome

[@gracekim2385]

That sounds like 가가 가가 가 (gaga gaga ga) which means Is that him from that house in a dialect in korea

[@antimnaftan4755]

Bro really started singing the theme to five night at fready's in the last one 💀

[@izzy_animemusic7247]

Are we not gonna point out the soft “your fine your fine” he said to her was so sweet

[@Keannn_.]

“Minekaniko ni moniko ang mekanika ni monika” is a filipino tounge twister that is really hard and really easy at the same time. Idk how to explain

[@winnie_5]

as a Chinese who speaks Cantonese i can tell u that is very good😊

[@victoriatybush9263]

Omg so cute the both of you . But yea u be like did i just say something mean 😂

[@thegeogoldfish]

Me being chinese i can relate. My brain: Mimimamamo mimimamamo

[@YaoiAngel00]

I dont know who they are.... But both are SO WHOLESOME 🥺 🙏 ❤

[@rotisepan]

HER LAUGH! 🤩

[@slain_9064]

I love them so much

[@datafoxy]

Everytime I think I can understand Cantonese, I realize I really do not.

[@aip_lebasi]

This clip is hilarious! I sounded the same when I tried saying both tongue twister 😅😂

[@Kellyk189]

As a Hong Konger I approve that what she says is actually Cantonese

[@ChoiShi0822]

As a kpop fan, I've seen idols do that Korean tongue-twister and it's honestly funny to see even native Korean idols struggling with it because the hangul sort of blurs together😂

[@gloop7458]

A lot like how I (a native English speaker) struggle a lot with "Sally sells sea shells by the sea shore" I'm really good at "How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood" and "Peter Piper pick a peck of pickled peppers" but the s and sh sound is really hard on my accent

[@ChoiShi0822]

@@gloop7458 Uh... This is actually a different situation...

[@wynoglia]

You guys are fun :)

[@uk.if.g0ld]

i thought she said "gagogagogagogagogago"💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@vanguard1689]

While we're at it, I'll share a Chinese tongue-twister :3 Quick translation: Sì = 4 Shí = 10 Shì = is/equal to Sì shì sì Shí shì shí Shí sì shì shí sì Sì shí shì sì shí Full translation: 4 is 4 10 is 10 14 is 14 40 is 40 What it looks like in characters: 4 = 四 10 = 十 Is/equal to = 是 四是四 十是十 十四是十四 四十是四十 Have fun with that XD

[@jeanalburich6370]

damn the one tongue twister that has troubled me since i was born

[@unluckystaravia2352]

Wait is 10 pronounced the same as equal to in Chinese or is it like one of those words that are spelled the same but pronounced in a different way? If it's pronounced the same I'd imagine math class becoming confusing if your being taught with speaking instead of reading the equation

[@unluckystaravia2352]

Ah, the i's (Don't have the ability to type the actual characters on my keyboard) is accented in a different way like with the line above the i being flipped, so they are different sounds, I didn't notice that

[@vanguard1689]

@@unluckystaravia2352 The tone for 10 (shí) is an upward tone, so it sounds a bit like you're asking a question. The tone for is/equal to (shì) is a downward tone, so it sounds a bit like you're angry. I hope this helps! ^^

[@jeanalburich6370]

@@vanguard1689 welp you got it, now i dont have to type the explanation thx :)

[@That1frog]

POV: just tagalog words Unsettling: nakakabagabag Nervous: kinakabahan It’s unsettling when you’re nervous: nakakabahala kapag kinakabahan ka

[@Emmi_Ziqi]

If it's "that countrys guy over there is taller than this countrys guy over there" its even longer

[@yunlisa2243]

I love learning languages!! 😊❤❤❤ I wish I can learn languages by native people even though I’ll mess up!

[@veondeir]

I've watched this like over 10 times now and I'm still laughing so hard

[@gingeral253]

God I wish I knew those languages.

[@animalbio608]

As a fellow korean, I FEEL THIS

[@vera_light]

Petra’s laughing noises sound really cute XD

[@norasyikinali6283]

Honestly the Cantonese tongue twister sounds like she was gargling. I would actually thought she was gargling if she didn't say it was a tongue twister.

[@sleepysayu4030]

Heres another canto tongue twister: gogo ge ga yau yao gogo ge ga yao ge go go(Each country has their own national anthem) works in Chinese to!

[@DerTK]

The cantonese bit sounds like a banjoo kazooie character 😂

[@1azza141]

The way he says “You’re fine..you’re fine” 🥹🥹

[@Ultr4.despair]

SCREAMING, KICKING MY FEET, GIGGLING AHSHJDKDJXJ MY EARS ARE BLESSED

[@yamidelacroix6729]

This is amazing.

[@reymondavellana7367]

Literally the only korean tongue twister I know and memorized

[@monkeconleche]

“Sjuttiosju skönsjungande sjuksköterskor sköter Sjuhundrasjuttiosju sjösjuka sjömän på skändandes skeppet i Shanghai” -grammatically correct and coherent Swedish sentence

[@myku1182]

The "gor" tongue twister with my dead brain all I can hear is "Har har har har"

[@anni4946]

Languages no one wants to learn but everyone wants to speak>>😂

[@_vinvin_vince]

I understand why she thinks that too.😰😭💀

[@pokiidoki5532]

This is adorable

[@xienjilmaoo]

her laugh so cutee🤣

[@hariyasama-yj8pp]

When Ver said "you're fine you're fine" Can cure my anxiety

[@yazminzielke234]

Her Lauge is everything 😂

[@Kae-Lee]

So cute

[@tronus1539]

Petra so cute

[@meganachu4447]

Omg I can understand cantonese (I think it’s “that brother is taller than that brother”)

[@hinoki_321]

That word usually means elder brother which you are right👍🏻, but technically in the tongue twister's context, it's more like you're a kid saying that young guy is taller than that young guy

[@meganachu4447]

@@hinoki_321 oh I don’t really speak it that well as I have lost it over the years living in an English speaking country