What Made KOTOR a Big Deal?

Star Wars: Knights of The Old Republic (KOTOR) is a landmark game for Star Wars. Why? Let's dig in.
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[@1122markj]

15 years later and he doesn't spoil the story. THAT is the mark of a good human being!

[@zero5496]

OMG did you know darth vader is luke's father?!

[@lmop3663]

That is the mark of a good game!

[@maggitPL]

@@caiawlodarski5339 Who could have seen that coming?!

[@yycforlife5048]

Turns out your raven

[@chicomac8450]

Spoiler: The end credits come up at the end of the game.

[@TheNinjaDC]

KOTOR was a big deal because it broke a Star Wars Taboo. It told an original story, completely not connected to the original trilogy. And it was glorious for it!

[@Galiant2010]

@Justin Last Yes, they tied in to some already established lore, but any other game that was Star Wars was tied in with PT or OT stuff, or maybe right after with stuff like the Dark Forces games where Luke is Grand Jedi Master. KotOR was the first game to have it's setting not be so directly tied in with movie era stuff. Yeah, we have lore characters in both sets like Marka Ragnos in Jedi Academy and then exploring their tomb and getting other references in the KotOR games. But KotOR has nothing to do with the characters or politics of the Original or Prequel Trilogies which is what TheNinjaDC was referring to.

[@Dragonmont]

Wilfred Willy KOTOR I is a great game but yeah it’s basically like ANH. KOTOR II is the only SW material that I’ve ever played that seems to critique the universe. KOTOR II is original and it’s a shame most people seem to just know the first game and not the second one.

[@huntergraham702]

The team was told they could either make a game that tied into the prequels ((Attack of the Clones specifically IIRC)) or a game set long before the movies and went with that specifically to make their own story, free from the movies.

[@mikaelantonkurki]

@Wilfred Willy This is a good thing.

[@clippedoutofcontext2283]

It was fucking amazing

[@Gorillaphoenix77]

Did anybody else hear about the guy who spent years making an updated graphics mod for this game and then he got a cease and desist? So unfair.

[@AliceHoftell]

it looked so awesome one of the most anticipated sw content on the earth

[@ben_that_is_fresh6696]

Gorilla Phoenix they only told him he couldn’t do it right before he was almost done. It’s sad.

[@3dpyromaniac560]

I was planning on working with him then the C&D came... never fuck with the mouse

[@brandondanforth8342]

If you're talking about what I think you are, it wasnt a mod, it was remaking the game on a new engine, which isnt ok... I mean I would have loved to see it finished but they were well within their legal rights to stop it.

[@Gorillaphoenix77]

@@brandondanforth8342 It was remade on a new engine, but it required the original game downloaded from steam to work, thats why I say its a mod. Plus its a fan made, non profit, project. I compare it to other works of fan fiction.

[@Zarala2010]

Who's still booting up KOTOR I & II in 2018-2019?! :D

[@lordarvedui7198]

Zarala2010 i am i completed 2 before 1 so i’m playing 1 now

[@pineappleturnovers9431]

Meee

[@aaronkimzey7133]

Currently replaying KOTOR 1 right now.

[@isaac161000]

Replaying 2. since steam did the update the other year ive been meaning to get every achievement in the game.

[@aidenc2210]

Zarala2010 me

[@StarWarsOnly]

This video is a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

[@seanl7503]

Hello there

[@Ko-ff5ej]

This’ll make a fine addition to my collection

[@hellothere4023]

@@seanl7503 general kenobi

[@KapitanPazur1]

I rather watch shitty top 10's to be fair :D

[@michaelstuewe9107]

StarWarsOnly I don’t know what your problem is

[@wiz9073]

"Definition: 'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope... Love is knowing your target, putting them in your targeting reticule, and together, achieving a singular purpose against statistically long odds." - HK-47

[@Spekor]

observation: i have acumulated exactly 0 fucks to give... meatbag..." wish he'd actually said it.. but we all know it fits him

[@Andrew-hf9jz]

Statement: that is true meatbag

[@epiclolito8226]

"Comment: Ah, yes, I agree. That is indeed the true definition of love."

[@discipleinblack]

KOTOR. That OTHER franchise that fans have been begging for the 3rd game for over 14 years.

[@Galiant2010]

KotOR III confirmed.

[@Galiant2010]

But to be fair SWTOR kind of does that... Obviously different gameplay style but for storytelling it's basically the successor since it takes place 300 years after KotOR. Of the 8 class stories I thoroughly enjoyed 4 of them, a couple were just decent and I only really disliked one or two of them. But the Jedi Knight class is basically considered to be KotOR III as far as story.

[@benjaminreinicke6993]

Galiant2010 but sadly the storytelling after ilum wasn’t up to par and the general lack of content drove a lot of players away but it’s ea

[@Galiant2010]

@@benjaminreinicke6993 Yeah the expansions haven't been great... I thought the KotFE/ET expansions were actually pretty good as far as the story. It's just the way it was implemented that sucks. With any other content you can feel pretty free to just stop wherever and take a break but the chapter system in those makes you feel like you have to finish it and can reduce the fun of playing. Also just how you can't go around and skip enemies even as a stealth class. The game forces you to fight endless mob after mob. Those are the only real downsides to those expansions because I thought the story was good. But Jedi Under Siege seems to be bringing things back towards the vanilla storytelling, so we will see where things go from here.

[@benjaminreinicke6993]

Galiant2010 I won’t anymore too disappointed by the story to predictable and same abilities and stories for all classes was very lazy in my opinion. They took so much time for that but the result wasn’t my think at all. That’s why almost everyone of my guild stopped playing and the funny thing is we had all content covered me myself was a raider story fanatic. But to get back to the topic I always thought kotor 1 was groundbreaking I’m still addicted to it today. The second part was to rushed, but still good you have to play it with the unlocked content and all the mods. Then I dare to say it even better than the first one. And I thought the development of the 3rd part was canned? And PS let the Skywalkers be, their time is over make movies about the old republic( Revan, exar kun, naga sadow & ludo kressh, Marka Ragnos, tulak hord) or after the skywalkers that would be nice

[@apathyguy8338]

You failed to mention that every single second of dialog was recorded and spoken. No text only conversations what so ever. This was the first time this had ever been done in a game on this scale.

[@Ringringcodyphone2020]

This was awesome but they did cheat a little with the alien characters

[@SydneySininen]

@@Ringringcodyphone2020 Yeah but tbh it took me halfway through KotOR II to figure that out when that Exchange Quarren bad guy on Nar Shaddaa says "Mira" in text but starts a fucking speech in voice because l never paid attention to alien voices anyway

[@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE]

Metal Gear Solid in 1998 likely had more recorded dialogue (2,000 pages of script), can't say 100% though.

[@MK0437]

@@Ringringcodyphone2020 Yeah but that's the thing. All the different alien species and the like made Kotor 1 so magical and feel like you were in Star Wars. But you right.

[@chowmeower7294]

Alex The Awsome Fallout 2 had tons of non-spoken dialogue what are you talking about lol

[@svetlanarodriguez7429]

Still playing it on pc and Xbox 360. This is how you make a Star Wars game.

[@westheking12]

Why not Xbox One? That's the best console version to date. But u are on PC which is times better with mods and bug fixes.

[@felixgarstka]

how on xbox360?

[@kamilkiziniewicz3047]

@@felixgarstka Star Wars Kotor is backwards compatible

[@carmelopappalardo8477]

Amen!

[@recklessg5689]

Svetlana Rodriguez I’ve played it to many times... my speed run record 100% completion is 6 hours. I think I could cut it down a bit as well.

[@MasterZapdox]

KOTOR was (and is) Bioware at its absolute best.

[@jam8539]

kotor to mass effect three, during and after that game they fell, though dai was pretty good

[@robertthomson1994]

i would have to agree, Bioware from kotor to mass effect 3 is peak Bioware. like i love kotor and mass effect saga, my absolute favorite series of games.

[@thescumbagofnewyork9397]

Maybe it was because I didn’t play KOTOR until a year or so ago, but I have no idea how you can say that. I thought Dragon Age Origins was better in almost every way.

[@MasterZapdox]

@@thescumbagofnewyork9397 honestly I might have a bit of a soft spot for KOTOR as it was my very first console game on the og xbox. I'll have to agree with you about DAO, I just think that KOTOR was where Bioware found their niche, so to speak.

[@dawgzofwar6674]

True as true can be..well said

[@supremeleadergnkdroid3202]

“Obey the laws on manaan, human.” -security droid

[@da1stlangzai]

I'm still playing KOTOR with mods while my PS4 is collecting dust...

[@therealteal620]

I love how it's a game about Star Wars that explores the lore without it being directly tied to any of the movies. I wish the new movies would go that route. Who are the Builders? How about that Rakatan guy trapped for thousands of years? What's up with the Star Forge? The Jedi Temple having ancient secrets? Like bruh, there's SO MUCH to explore in the movies and they're just choosing the safe option of rehashing the original trilogy.

[@raresmacovei8382]

Except Last Jedi went in a completely new direction.

[@MISERYjpg]

@@raresmacovei8382 which was a shitty direction btw

[@CondemnedInformer]

And it completely neglected to answer any questions from the first movie. If it was a whole new movie set on it's own and maybe didn't contain a number, then it might have gone over better and not become the most reviled Star Wars movie ever of all time. But using TLJ as a 'well they did it, and you still hated it' rational is not a good one. Ruin Johnson just wanted to subvert fan expectation, so he made a terrible movie trying to do that, what a shock.

[@masonmurphy2679]

I want a film about Kyle Katarn, even though Rogue One retconned him out of the franchise

[@CuteGallifreyian]

Play SWTOR and you find out more about the Rakata actually and the Rakata in the box.

[@MoriShep]

The best expansion of SW lore to date KOTOR and KOTOR 2

[@IzzyOrnitier]

KOTOR 2 was Obsidian, not Bioware

[@PeptoPoops]

agreed, kotor2 hit more boxes for me, but still a great one

[@xjadit7826]

Webcomic Guy I mean if it had been a complete game it probably would have been but na I cant agree with that

[@Revanchist]

@@xjadit7826 TSL:RCM is 100x better then KOTOR I

[@xjadit7826]

Revanchist it’s still missing a lot of stuff though 🤷‍♂️

[@mikegeorge8132]

HK-47, the Deadpool of Star Wars. It was one of the first games I can remember having a game react to your decisions. As carried over to Mass Effect.

[@andrewblocher9110]

“What is it you wish, fat one?” Best line KotOR II

[@Rizaidym]

Knights of the Old Republic was the thing that made me fall in love with Star Wars. I'd seen the movies, but I never saw them as much more than fun movies. They never had an impact on me. But KotOR engaged me much more deeply, and KotOR 2 made me THINK, made me question the Force and think philosophically in a way no other Star Wars material had. And I love them for it.

[@ggioia86]

EA has the rights to make Star Wars video games and they own Bioware. The fact that there has not been a KOTOR 3 is criminal

[@newnamepending7084]

Dont put the idea in their heads. There will be loot boxes and Disney references, the Star Wars IP has been scarred enough :(

[@LionO2789]

I agree but until the star wars license isn't bogged down with corporate politics I don't want that series being touched. We might get something horrible that would comply ruin the series. Just look at what they did to mass effect and star wars battlefront( although the latter of the 2 examples is actually a good game now post launch, but at launch and for months EA had bastardised that franchise)

[@coinkidink9997]

They made an SWTOR instead and HEAVILY butchered the characterisation and story of their most beloved creation... Revan.

[@fictionarch]

@@coinkidink9997 how? I haven't played the MMO but Revan was what you wanted him to be so how did the MMO ruin the character?

[@IzzyOrnitier]

I dont know if they actually own the rights to the KOTOR series exactly. Obsidian made the 2nd one with LucasArts. But I'm not privy to all that rights stuff

[@Dan98700000]

It's also on PC if anyone's wondering...both of them are. One of the best RPG's I've played, and there's a lot of mods out for these games as well, happy gaming!

[@FoxMcFoxy]

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised that wasn't mentioned at all in the video. You can get KOTOR 1 and 2 cheap at sales. Like, right now on GOG's or Steam's winter sale.

[@Jatt2613]

It's also on your phone. I bought it just for the nostalgia and to be able to hop on and play a few minutes every once in a while no matter where I am when I feel like it.

[@Dan98700000]

@@Jatt2613 Yeah, I saw that it got released for phones some time ago, does it play well? Haven't tried it yet.

[@Dan98700000]

@@FoxMcFoxy Both games on GOG currently cost like 4$ each, that's a steal for such a great experience, and they work flawlessly with Windows 10, they just need a few mods to get it looking great on new hardware( like a widescreen/resolution fix).

[@joenesvick7043]

I love it on PC. The tablet version has really bad swoop racing. Can pass Taris after a few tries, but I just gave up on Tatooine and Manan. Still, the tablet gave me achievements to unlock

[@mattcivitello4882]

The greatest SW game ever made. Period.

[@davidpineda4177]

No

[@whitericeboi]

@@davidpineda4177 yes

[@SuperDuperNerd]

@@davidpineda4177 factually incorrect

[@niclick777]

I wish they would bring back Republic Comandos

[@darthknightwingphoenix2081]

Dat Filthy Antagonist i miss Sev... WE NEED IMPERIAL COMMANDOS, not their crappy attempt at imp special forces in EA BF2.

[@darthknightwingphoenix2081]

Padawan Tina yes, and it’s also on Steam. Which is superior because ez mods! But that doesn’t change the facts that the game is kind of short, and thus the only real replay value is challenging the harder difficulties, since the multiplayer is somewhat dead (and not all that different from the classic Battlefront 2 anyway, which is also on Steam AND has dedicated servers up for it, which means the multiplayer is busy as heck). Plus the cliffhanger of WHAT HAPPENED TO SEV is still as painful as ever, and the fact that we will NEVER get an answer to it with the current state of Star Wars is just heartbreaking. There is SO much potential for an Imperial Commando game, and the tie-in books by Karen Traviss had a LOT of ideas, information, and characters just BEGGING for use in such a game. The only problem is that it doesn’t fit with Disney’s stupid new canon.

[@SydneySininen]

l'm just about finished with Republic Commando rn and it's so great

[@ChozoSR388]

@@darthknightwingphoenix2081 It's also on GOG

[@darthknightwingphoenix2081]

@@ChozoSR388 true.

[@hedz8]

SHOUTOUT YALL FOR MAKING A VIDEO ABOUT THIS !!!! NEEDS MORE CREDIT MORE YOUNG KIDS STILL NEED TO PLAY THIS!!!!

[@hunterscarf2649]

I love this game I got it on steam and I'm 11

[@bradyoconnell5863]

I am thirteen now, but this was 10 year old me's go to game. I picked up the second one a year ago and I may have to start playing the MMO now.

[@TjarpDex]

@@bradyoconnell5863 I have only one warning for you when it comes to the MMO, beware of the microtransactions, it's only really fun if you're paying the subscription fee (too limited of an experience otherwise) and prepare to lose hundreds if not thousands of hours playing it, I just realised when typing this that I did in fact warn you of four things as opposed to one...

[@poppershnoz4536]

@Super Saber I agree, Only MMO ive ever played was SkyForge and it made me want to Vomit....yuck...

[@PeptoPoops]

So many games I feel this way about...

[@saladbar3607]

best star wars game i’ve played. shame what star wars games have come to

[@knight4122]

Ethan what about Star Wars the old republic

[@kaworupl]

@@knight4122 SWTOR is great but going from base game to Eternal Throne left me sooo fucking confused after losing all my minions as Inquisitor. There is stuff that need more explanation. And is there anything new coming after Eternal Throne of game ended.

[@hellothere4023]

Have you guys ever played kotor 2

[@Legalgodzilla]

I do like this game a lot, but the original Star Wars Battlefront 2 is my favorite

[@poppershnoz4536]

Star Wars Republic Commando was the greatest Star Wars game...

[@IchI2FTW]

kotor 2 with the restoration fan patch is far superior than kotor 1 in my opinion but than again I started playing kotor 2 and then kotor 1. the twist of kotor 1 was still one of the best in all of gaming twists :) and hk-47 is the best meat bag hating star wars droid ever created! (I even enjoyed his and his masters unfulfilling story end in SWTOR which you should play for its story if you loved the kotor1 story line)

[@Guuwwopp]

This was the game that got me into games when I was like 10 or 11 had my first crush on bastilla shit was lit the second one with the restored content mod is probably my second fave game

[@soldier1stclass640]

This game got me i to RPGs to begin with,getting a new computer mostly so i can play this game again and the second onewhich i haven't played yet

[@jesterlefae3940]

*2nd Plot Twist:* HK-47 is the Big Deal and Revan was the side character, meatbag

[@hk-478]

Correction: While I may find myself as a quote "big deal," my assassination protocols can not be activate without the approval of my master.

[@skywrecker]

@@hk-478 yo my repair skill is at 12 maybe i can try repairing your memory

[@hk-478]

@@skywrecker [Attempt: FAILURE] Aahhhh! What are you doing?! Remove the arc wrench, remove the arc wrench! Medic!

[@skywrecker]

@@hk-478 are you calling me inept?!?!?!

[@hk-478]

@@skywrecker Mockery: I'm say a meatbag such as yourself should not be trusted with an arc wrench!

[@XxDaChampIsHerexX]

I’m aware of this game’s flaws but it’s still my fav of all time

[@ggt47]

"Flaws"? Which games?

[@XxDaChampIsHerexX]

warren byrne knights of the old republic

[@ggt47]

@@XxDaChampIsHerexX Oh,sorry.

[@deshawnsanders8406]

I’ve lost count how many time I’ve beaten this game

[@recklessg5689]

Deshawn Sanders have you ever been able to convince basilla to turn back to the light side when you confront her on the Star forge?

[@lemphl]

I absolutely love the android version, no downgrades and tablet and controller support, they should do it for switch too, taking it with you feels so good

[@businessbear9374]

It’s getting a REMAKE!!!!!

[@skipskip7737]

*BEST* *STAR WARS* *GAME* *EVER* *MADE!*

[@skipskip7737]

@Revan *ALL HAIL LORD REVAN!*

[@brandondanforth8342]

@Revan Revan is indeed the better lead, but KotOR II was the better game IMO

[@nathans5347]

Close, but KotOR 2 is the best Star Wars game ever made.

[@t.t6294]

@Revan ALL HAIL LORD REVAN

[@Deemosorence117]

Seriously I miss kotor 1-2 it was sad that they didn’t make a new one instead of the online version

[@hebewhat]

They did bad on release the second one wasn't even finished

[@LionO2789]

The online one is actually really good. I wish they would port it over to console. I know they could if they tried

[@Deemosorence117]

@@hebewhat True however there were people doing a whole revamp on it with the frostbite i think but they got shut down sadly also there were some mods that people did to bring back lost content on it through steam

[@Deemosorence117]

@@LionO2789 Yeah I heard it was I'm just more of a story line campaign gamer so thats the only reason why I would want a part 3 or at least a really good movie directed by george lucas haha

[@kevinkapinga2908]

@@Deemosorence117 I've spent a few thousand hours on the online one, each class has its own unique campaign, 8 overall, probably the main reason why I got into it, could be worth checking out if you like the sound of this

[@kettlemagic]

Star Wars is KOTOR and KOTOR 2. Or rather, Star Wars as it should be.

[@HuesingProductions]

This does put a smile on my face

[@battlefrontwarrior1218]

Damn this game is almost 17 years old I'm getting old

[@sheridoncary2602]

To understand kotor you need only one name REVAN

[@knight4122]

Sheridon Cary that’s what I put in all of my gamer tags is Revan

[@fricken99]

*Lord Revan

[@tamsirjames3793]

Dont forget kreai

[@recklessg5689]

Sheridon Cary I’ve beaten the game atleast 100 times and I’ve always gone back to being dark revan hahaha

[@Cy_The_Guy]

KOTOR was good because it allows me as a player to say "All this black-and-white good-and-evil crap is bullshit, I'm going to be the actually insightful (kinda a lot like Jolee) Gray Jedi and not be a total fanatic for either side." In both games I played a Gray Jedi, albeit slightly leaning towards the light side, despite not receiving any bonuses for it because there were a TON of parts where I got Dark Side points for things I said that were just "How is this an evil thing to do?"

[@TjarpDex]

I like how I get conflicted whenever I play KotOR II because the game pretty much forces you to question both extremes whilst simultaneously giving you crazy prestige classes if you decide to go full dark or light.

[@TjarpDex]

Not to mention the ability to train your companions as jedi/sith depending on your alignment and approval with said companion that you wish to train.

[@micahthomas7699]

Hell yea. Jolee is like how lots of us see things in the real world.

[@Cy_The_Guy]

@@TjarpDex Well, that was kinda the whole point of KotOR II. Kreia's whole job was to show you how crappy the Jedi were, and how monstrous the Sith were so you could destroy both and build something better from the ashes (thus Kreia forcing you to kill her, if she lived there'd still be remnants of the old systems). You got the prestige classes regardless of your standing, the only thing you got from being full light or dark was a +3 to constitution or something along those lines.

[@MrNemesisgenesis]

What's funny is you don't get to be any of that in the game. Stop deluding yourself about the game with a linear storyline no matter what you choose to say...

[@salehryan2906]

I love Kotor 1 and 2 I think they're the best single player Star wars games. although 2 was created by obsidian entertainment, it had a much darker theme. The characters in both games were great. But I think kreia in Kotor 2 is one of the best character writings in the gaming history

[@NoOne-py5or]

Kotor was my first experience into the rpg genre growing up, it has to be my favorite rpg of all time, it open the door to Final Fantasy for me oddly enough, a game I thought too nerdy for me.

[@UltimateCarl]

I'm surprised this video didn't really touch on how this game basically made morality systems in games into a big thing. Just like with Resident Evil 4's quick time events, yes it'd been done before, but the success of it in this game is the direct reason that a good/evil meter showed up in practically every major RPG (and even several non-RPGs) for the next several years. It was also almost as much of a Killer App for the Xbox as Halo - I know it's certainly why I bought one.

[@danieldosso2455]

And then games like Mass (D)Efect tried to copy the Morality System and instead modified it to be the more morally gray/situational morality in today's games

[@PaleGhost69]

Obsidian Entertainment Oh wait, we're talking about the first one.

[@coinkidink9997]

KOTOR 2 was something else man, it changed my life!

[@IzzyOrnitier]

I liked 2 a bit more but I liked em both

[@thomasjefferson2813]

I have not played 2 because of the shitty asteroid at the begining

[@TPKProductions]

There is a mod where you can skip that@@thomasjefferson2813

[@broonters2671]

I remember sitting on the ground next to my dad's chair and watching him play this game on the Xbox when I was four years old. When I was sixteen, Dad passed the Xbox down to me and along with it, a large collection of classic games that included KoTOR and KoTOR 2, Battlefront 2, and all those good games. This game is one of the best to ever come from the original Xbox. There really isn't any question about it.

[@randomonio]

When i read that kotor was backwards compatible, i left class early that day and didn't bother going to my other classes just to play this amazing game again and i was totally nostalgic playing it. Oh and i forgot about the plot twist so that caught me by surprise again.

[@vlweb3d]

*DID YOU COMPLETELY FORGET THAT KOTOR* *WAS ALSO RELEASED ON PC THAT SAME YEAR ??* I played - and finished it - on my first gaming PC back in 2003. KOTOR was NEVER a console exclusive from the very beginning.

[@ronswillson3850]

exactly

[@crazytastie]

It was for 4 months.

[@vlweb3d]

@@crazytastie *IRRELEVANT* In this video, he speaks as if the game was NEVER EVER released on the PC - which is totally untrue. To top it off, back in 2003, I used to read allot of "PC Gamer" magazines. KOTOR was advertised for BOTH consoles and PC - so obviously the original plan was to release on multiple platforms anyway.

[@crazytastie]

@@vlweb3d completely relevant. He only mentioned at the time of initial release it was exclusive. Which is true. What happened months after is irrelevant. 🤷‍♂️

[@PyroNexus22]

@@crazytastie no, he also mentioned, that you can play it on Xbox One in the end, but again no word about PC. Besides, it's an important piece of information, so he should've mentioned it anyway.

[@krounos1]

"If you look at the xbox, Which Knights Of The Old Republic was exlsuive too.." Me: *Looking at KOTOR in my Steam Library.*

[@Geofiendlux]

While KOTOR certainly has had a role in shaping RPGs as we know them today, The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind was definitely the first true cinematic RPG that you described, coming out two years before KOTOR. Morrowind also had as much of (if not more than) an influence on today's RPGs than KOTOR ever did. Though one could argue that Bethesda and BioWare make different types of RPGs that are geared to different tastes, a topic that I think should be explored in another video.

[@bebo2629]

One year befor KOTOR.

[@gothamite27]

I played KOTOR for the first time in 2016 and it honestly may be my favourite game of all time.

[@R3GARnator]

Wait until EA runs out of the Star Wars license, you KNOW obsidian will be clawing to make another star wars RPG.

[@coinkidink9997]

Yes please, with Chris Avellone as Head Designer!

[@AliceHoftell]

dont mind the fact they had a game that actually looked like it was going to be awesome and they canned that shit so fast even though everyone was like im interested

[@epiclolito8226]

4 more years.... just 4 more and EA and its disgusting MTs will be gone forever.

[@DerfLlennod]

Spoiler alert! Darth Snape kills Jedi Knight Dumbledore

[@Armataan]

Grey Jedi Snape, obvi.

[@StainderFin]

Then Harry Potter death droid lord starting blaster fire

[@removezoul]

To be honest I enjoy these kind of videos much much more than 'top 5 starwars games' kind of videos. Hope to see more of this content 😊

[@prophismusic]

Star was is rapidly become NOT a big deal with each installment since Disney. I don't know anyone who even cared to see the last two of them. Star wars is a shell of its former self.

[@ellidoor]

SWOOOOOOOOOOOOOPRACING. Oh, I've spent so many hours in it.

[@Pink_Tree]

KOTOR 1 is the best game on the planet. I’ve played through it at least 30 times.

[@m00sechuckle15]

Ninjaforever40 you know it’s available on the iPhone? It’s the best.

[@recklessg5689]

Brian Eels the problem with this game is once you know how to build it’s easy. Full strength, dexterity, with Duel lightsabers, and speed boost is a 1 shot hit on any enemy.

[@philliegiannotti3684]

I played Kotor II and having Visas on my side turning her to the good side and having her confess her feelings to me was just so interesting and unexpected. I loved every bit of playing that game.

[@iiTzoreo1]

Almost 20 years old and just as fun to play in 2020 as it was in 2003

[@PapaSnake]

It's a Bioware game back when Bioware was still relevant and didn't make shit like Mass Effect Andromeda

[@thomasjefferson2813]

Bioware have only made like 2 bad games. Probably one of the greatest devs of all time

[@abooodono7048]

I played it on android and it was SO fun!

[@kyleluscombe3969]

I'm playing on mobile now and love it was always a ps fanboy so never got a Xbox console to play it back then

[@StainderFin]

Why? What did you do that

[@DoughGoat]

My two favourite Star Wars games: Star Wars Jedi Academy and KOTOR

[@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy]

Knights of the Old Republic was also on PC, which is where I played it. The fact that it was on PC made it so easily modded. Granted, the modding was primitive, but what was possible at the time made it a blank canvas for modding. Just as with today's games, mods are what make a game worth playing more than once. If you get bored of the game, delete all your mods, and download different mods. And then, you have Knights of the Old Republic 2. That was rushed for release, so most of it was never finished, and the other half was entirely cut, so what we got was only half a game. BUT, the fact that it was only half a game actually made it even more of a blank canvas for modding. I spent years on those game. To be exact, I was still playing them all the way until 2012, and it was all because of mods. My whole-hearted thanks goes to FileFront, the best location to find mods. That place was amazing.

[@TheDarkever]

I came to the conclusion that KOTOR is by far the best Star Wars product in existence. The original movie trilogy was good 30 years ago but it didn't age well at all, while all the subsequent movies became gradually worse and worse, until the unwatchable abominations we have nowadays. KOTOR is still amazing and I plan to re-re-play sooner or later. Certainly the graphics is a little outdated and I already know the storyline, but the core of the game is still as awesome as it was at release. Oh and Darth Revan is by far the coolest Jedi/Sith ever. Period.

[@discipleinblack]

I've actually held this opinion for a long time. (Though I give KOTOR 2 the number 1 spot, closely followed by number 2) I will never understand why Bioware decided to stop making these games. (And no, STWOR doesn't count.) With such a huge following it financially just made sense to make more of these games decades ago. Even today, with the taint of EA, most gamers I know would kill to see another KOTOR game.

[@nickg6668]

Did you really just say that the OT aged poorly

[@comicsans1689]

No need to bash the OT and prequels to convey how good KOTOR is. They all stand as great products. The sequel trilogy is garbage on the other hand.

[@rochahouse4883]

Close, *kotor 2 takes that spot.

[@nathans5347]

I would disagree about the original trilogy not aging well - at least in regards to Empire Strikes Back. But regardless, KotOR 1&2 are some of the best Star Wars products.

[@tanoy44]

loved both 1 and 2, the mmo version was kind of a let down wish that a 3rd was made instead

[@lordshaitan]

I actually enjoyed SWTOR. Depending upon your class, they had great characters and storylines. Later instalments they also started to focus heavily on a single player story experience in an multiplayer game.

[@kvothe5824]

@@lordshaitan I'm playing it now for the first time and it's pretty good! But yes I wish a third Kotor was a thing

[@Neknesch]

I really loved that even if it wasn't your turn, you really thought your character fought by blocking, pariing and hitting back, like I never saw again in a Videogame

[@YoSomePerson]

If you consider the fact that Kotor had a whole companion you could miss based on your characters gender (in vanilla without mods) it is to this day still one of the best stories in gaming (that I know of). Even in Dragon Age Origins your story was more on rails than in Kotor oder Kotor 2. Your choices had a real impact on how your story progressed. While there were certainly on two endings, the way how you could get there was vastly different. If I remember correctly you can kill companions in this game that you could also romance if you went into a different direction.

[@liftedninja2154]

It is still and will always be my favorite game of all time. So many memories playing this game through, over and fucking over again. It’s good to see you guys showing it some love ❤️

[@demonic-deadbeat3212]

yeah i liked how your choices reflect & you could become Jedi or Sith based on good or bad karma.

[@Scholar702]

Im proud you made this video. Happy to see KOTOR is still remembered and not forgotten. Loved this game as a child. My favorite star wars games are KOTOR 1/2 and Jedi outcast/academy.

[@hth9237]

You should make a video about the modders who restored the cut content in kotor2

[@TheDrixConcept]

A video about my 2nd favorite game (KOTOR 2 is #1)!

[@Kedamine]

I’m sick and tired of saying it but I’ll say it again. KOTOR 3 pleeaaaasseee,, if EA could release it’s poopy hold on BioWare and let them make another actually good Star Wars game I would NUT.

[@coinkidink9997]

They need to let Obsidian make KOTOR 3. Bioware absolutely destroyed Revan in the SWTOR MMO so I don't trust them with him anymore.. Obsidian actually set up KOTOR 3 to be in the Unknown Regions, with The Exile going to find Revan and fight together to stop a ''Great Evil''.

[@TjarpDex]

@@coinkidink9997 If you're interested that story exists in a book and even better, as an audiobook full with sound effects, simply known as Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan. EDIT: added the letter b to Republic.

[@coinkidink9997]

@@TjarpDex Thanks but I've got the book and unfortunately didn't enjoy it. I didn't like the ending and how they pretty much ignored the events of KOTOR 2... Didn't like the fact of what happened to The Exile and what happened to Revan.

[@westheking12]

Eh just so you guys know the SWTOR will never be canon anyway. KOTOR still has a very good chance to become official canon. They have already hinted it in shows, comic, and books.

[@comicsans1689]

Modern Bioware and Obsidian are shells of their former selves. I think you would be disappointed if either of them made a KOTOR 3.

[@yasurikressh8325]

Thank you for this video. Kotor 1 & 2 are among the best game experiences I have ever had. Its quite important for me because the old republic era that was introduced took my heart by storm and i must admit that there was a time when i became so addicted to it that i would literally just assimilate everything i could get on wookipedia and jedipedia about the old republic. Kotor was also responsible for sparking my joy for the millennium prior to the movies in general. From the rakatan empire with the killiks and kwa with the arks all the way to darth tenebrous which was before disney happened. Technically there are defined eras after the movies too with the sith changing their rule of two to the rule of one etc but those stories never struck me personally. Kotor and kotor 2 in particular are vary important because they did two things ( in my opinion). Kotor 1 introduced a galaxy that was bigger then just the movies and the cartoons which were all based around a specific era of the galactic republic. It also gave the opposing sides more character as it wasnt just pure evel vs pure good any longer. Kotor 2 gave us an insight into the philosophies and beliefs in star wars. It addressed and dealt with concepts like purpose and free will in a world that is intrinsically governed by the force. It also talked about the sith and the jedi as force users and what their respective beliefs really are about and what fault they had imbedded intrinsically in their core. Kotor 2 basically tells us how star wars works. I could talk about so much more but there is only so much that can fit in a comment like this. Anyway thanks for this video. This kinda videos always get an instant like from me :]

[@The_Grimsun]

KOTOR was the first big game I ever played on the pc besides like, wasd racing java games. It was an amazing experience and very well could have been the reason I started playing MMOs, rpgs, and d&d. I owe more to KOTOR than I realized till just now. My copy that I borrowed and never was asked to return to my friend, still sits in my closet as a fond memory to this day, 15ish years later.

[@RevengeofGothzilla]

Not to rain on the parade but there's a big factual inaccuracy in this video. There were tons of RPGs with non-isometric 3D graphics prior to 2003 Dues Ex and VtMB: Redemption were already out by then, System Shock and Ultima Underworld were both on their second installments, and the Elder Scrolls was already on its 3rd. Bioware was actually pretty late to the 3D graphics party, not to mention the bulk of those games were also utilizing real time combat while KOTOR was still using turn based.

[@nilspeters643]

I fully agree, but the turn based system wasnt a design limitation choice. It was actually one of the ideas that sparked the creation of kotor

[@sweet0mistral]

Yeah, but KOTOR at the time was the best. It was the game of the year back in the day, i guess it got some extra point because of that.

[@kyleluscombe3969]

Turn based is great.

[@Fra_Diavolo]

RevengeofGothzilla kotor isnt turn based lol. Its real time with active pause. Only system is „turn based” but not game itself

[@MrGeorge7823]

Stfu? Please

[@MarineButt]

The twist in the middle of the game was so good. How can you poopoo all over how good the story was. It literally broke the exclusive independence of sith and jedi. By the end of that game the entire moral philosophy surrounding the light and dark side were thrown into question. Before that game it was impossible for an established Sith to become a Jedi. We had only seen it one way before. Jedi fall and they become Sith. KOTOR didn't do that. KOTOR gave you the freedom to be as good or as bad as you want. Your actions reflected in your alignment score. Doing bad things increased your dark side alignment. Doing good things increased light side alignment. It was a virtual moral and ethical lesson.

[@Armataan]

You have to ignore the entire extended universe besides that game to think that is true.

[@eds1942]

KotOR was great because it allowed you to choose your path and for the plot twist. But, according to Lucas, his movies were ultimately about the raise, fall from grace and redemption of Anakin. And also according to the man, the proto order was grey or “at balance”. Ashla (the lightside) and Bogan (the darkside) were held as abstract concepts. The light side puristic Jedi Order formed after the 1st Schism some 1,000 generations bby.

[@Rumpelstilzchen12]

It also is available for pc and there are a lot of mods for it. Also one that scales up the resolution(highly recommended), has steam workshop support aswell. If you play the second game i would recommend the restored content mod, it just adds so much to the game. Some originally planed content arround the ending was cut due to the release date but the dialogs and stuffs were finished and actually on the cds, so modders (thank everyone involved so much for that!) modded it into the game. Great experience!

[@gentlesirpancakebottoms6692]

I grew up with the PS2 so I never played Kotor back in the day but I played Jade Empire a few years ago and loved it so much that I bought Kotor 1&2 on GOG and played them last year. They were some of the best games I've ever played and now some of my favourite games of all time:)

[@eccentricjoe5410]

DID I HEAR KOTOR?!?!?!?!

[@SG-go4gu]

I need a remake of this

[@gameranxTV]

we all do

[@paulsnelling7808]

Well it's FUCKIN HAPPENING

[@generalkenobi1980]

This aged well

[@Three_Dog_Gaming]

You can also get it on Steam and GoG. If you do, there's a 1080p mod along with instructions on how to set it up.

[@Jamie-kg8ig]

That moment when Gameranx uploads a KOTOR video the day you start playing it for the first time.

[@tonymack]

All the golden age of BioWare how it would be to go back to those days, before EA basically destroyed the company and turned it into BioWare in name only oh, if only Microsoft would buy them and say make us games like you did back then and just let us know when they're ready, rip BioWare

[@tylerorr2741]

anthony sweat I agree 110 percent unfortunatly ea likes to dissolve companies instead of selling them

[@tonymack]

@@tylerorr2741 ya sadly, i think anthem will fail and they may shut them down.. but maybe MS will see the value and come with enough of the only thing EA cares about, money.

[@Armataan]

People pretending that mass effect 2, 3,and dragon age 1, 2, 3, all of which were post ea, aren't the highest production value, fullest experiences bioware had ever made are funny. KOTOR was a great narratively driven game where none of your choices matter. KOTOR 2 was an rpg. Bioware did their best work under ea.

[@tonymack]

@@Armataan they hadn't totally destroyed the company yet and the founders hadn't left. EA has been terrible. You're not thinking right.

[@Armataan]

@@tonymack anthem is the best game they have ever made. Inquisition was the best game they had ever made before that. ME3 was the best before that. Sw:TOR Was a better game than KOTOR, though worse than kotor2. Nwn was worse than nwn2. KOTOR was worse than kotor2. Baldurs gate was worse than planescape and icewind Dale. Bioware was always second place at designing their own games. Now they aren't. You are allowing irrational hatred of ea to blind you to reality.

[@ericthedude7368]

While I haven’t ever played this game this video has made me consider it and I might add it to my should you play it in 2019 series on my channel

[@hexer5710]

EricTheDude no one watches you so nobody cares

[@cmonbruh6769]

@@hexer5710 you wrong for that one

[@danortart2775]

EricTheDude do it my guy

[@ericthedude7368]

CmonBruh thanks dude

[@levih.8786]

Yeah do it for sure. This game is like my childhood legacy.

[@joshuaharris347]

I’ve played this so many times and it’s always a joy. Hands down one of my favorite console games of all time.

[@TheOneCleanHippy]

I got to KOTOR a few years late, I played it in 2008 or 2009 on the Xbox 360. What was cool about that was being able to play the second one right after I finished the first one. I loved those games so much that I tried to play the subsequent Star Wars: The Old Republic despite the fact that I hate MMORPGs. But it wasn't the same. I have wanted a real new KOTOR game for over a decade now.

[@PyroNexus22]

So many inaccuracies in this video. 1. There's already been 3D RPGs before KotOR, both isometric, 1st and 3rd person. For example, Gothic was 3rd person. Hell, even Bioware's own Neverwinter Nights was 3D although isometric and developed on the same engine as KotOR. 2. Morrowind was also 3D, and it actually came out one year before KotOR, not after like you claim. 3. KotOR wasn't exclusive for Xbox, it also came out for PC and is still sold on Steam. 4. So you're saying, that it wasn't writing, that made KotOR's story stand out from other RPGs, but then a second later you're saying it had exceptionally well-written characters. First of all, its characters aren't any more exceptional than in any other well-written RPG of the time. And secondly, character-development is also writing. 5. Why do you show screenshots of SW: The Old Republic, when talking about KotOR? And besides all that, you really fail to explain, why KotOR was a big deal. You're just fanboying over it, instead of professionally explaining features unique to this game, and why these features were superior to those of its contemporaries.

[@theevildrummingsithlord1492]

Last time I checked, you could get KOTOR on the iPad.

[@theevildrummingsithlord1492]

@@robbiemcgee6234 I see.

[@Roman-wm4ji]

I literally can’t explain my appreciation for this video

[@RiffHarvester]

One of my favorite games of all time! I got this game when I first moved out on my own, and I played for months!

[@revanjagergaming8714]

This game revolutionized gaming for me, without KOTOR I wouldn't be a gamer today. It was the most immersive experience I have ever had in a game to date. I can't think of another RPG that sucked me into it's world like this game did. I was only like 13 when this game came out and I lost almost 2 weeks to it. I didn't come out of my room other than to eat for almost 10 days. To this day it was the most incredible gaming experience I have ever had, and I still go back and play through it at least once a year.

[@rusler159]

The dlc "for free" 🤣🤣😂

[@AxeManAnthony]

KOTOR is such a great game. I always come back to it.

[@Awesome_Force]

I didn't know about it's existence until I saw a video for part 2 before it came out. It looked so cool that I wanted to try out the first KOTOR and got it as a platinum hits game at Circuit City. It was awesome! It's still one of my all time favorite games. I easily finished it before part 2 released because I just couldn't stop playing it. It took just over a week (about 70 hours) on my original play through. So cool. I really wish they would make another one, or at least make SWTOR playable on consoles with a regular experience system without a monthly fee (just pay a normal game price).

[@brandonherrin6204]

I’m only 20 years old, but KOTOR is a game that for over half of my life has held the title of my favorite game of all time. I replay it at least every year. Yeah, some things are out dated, but reliving the stories with Jolee or Bastilla (for instance) is so incredible. It’s only been recently replaced by a different game and it has taken a long time to do that. So, if you are ever thinking about picking it up, you should!

[@davidfleming3022]

I loved this game and the "twist" was freaking amazing. I recently downloaded it from Steam and still play it today!

[@mattd5857]

Kotor 1 was a love letter to everything great about the Star Wars franchise. It managed to hit so many tropes of the films but still feel very original. The writers of the current movies should really go back and play Kotor for some pointers on how to make a good Star Wars story.

[@michaelschwartz9870]

My explanation, very similar to yours, is thus: it's a story that really stays true to star wars, and has a twist that rivals "I'm your father" without outright copying it. It was a full and coherent story. Also, like you said, it was one of the first games of it's kind, with the freedom to choose and fully explore that kind of world (s). But, for me mostly, it was the fact that it came out in the golden age of video games... I dont play many games these days, so I could be way off... but with the introduction and acceptance of massive dlc dumps we have ended up in a time when games are just glorified beta-level demos on release... then they sell you a "dlc" which in truth is just a chunk you should've gotten on release. Dont get me wrong, I appreciate a constant contenuation of a game, but no game I've played in the last decade has been as satisfying as games that were 100% on release in the late 90s.

[@Jytus]

Star Wars KOTOR is and always will be in my top 5 favourite games of all time. So much nostalgia replaying it from when I was a kid. Might just have to go do it again...

[@miniespeon158]

Oh my gosh! Jeremy Soule composed the score for KOTOR? This really makes me wanna play it now, I love his music in games

[@beefwellington1458]

I've always had trouble deciding what the best SW game was. For me its KOTOR, Shadows of the Empire, and Battlefront II (the OG one) in a tie.

[@ventus7765]

Idk many ppl who know the oh battlefront 2 you have my respect

[@mikeheil713]

My introduction to RPGs was Knights of the Old Republic, it was a wonderful experience and I was very glad to be of a proper age to enjoy it when it came out. Unfortunately when I went to play bioware's MMORPG it did not have the same feel. Some things are just great memories, they build who we are as people and if we're lucky the Next Generation will get some games that will help them develop I love and passion for True game making.

[@ThrawnaDelRey]

I play it at least 2-3 times a year and still find some new scenes/story elements I've never noticed before. KOTOR is without a doubt one of my favorite games, and Star Wars Story

[@dennisstark9764]

Back in that days, I never even heard of the Game. Found it in a Supermarket, bought with all the money I kept the last two years and never regreted it😍

[@xXgh0st777Xx]

One of the best ever made. KOTOR 1 & 2 should always have a place in people’s hearts in Star Wars. If you play 2 on the PC download the TSLRCM, it adds back a lot of missing content that was cut last minute but left in files for modders to restore at some point and finish out. These are games you will not regret playing and love going back to especially for nostalgic purposes

[@Zenless]

KOTOR and KOTOR II left their mark during my childhood for sure. Still to this day my favorite rpgs and definetly in my top 10 videogames of all time

[@Marco_Onyxheart]

What's the music that starts around 2:30? I always here it when people talk about Star Wars.