What Makes an Investment Speculative?

[@ahmedal-tayy7332]

Moral of this video: Do not invest without research.

[@AussieMoneyMan]

Ever

[@lain11644]

/r/wallstreetbets would like to disagree

[@mauricesupot6641]

Moral of the video don’t be a Tesla bandwagon

[@Curt_Randall]

moral the story: do not invest without a goal (without knowing when to sell).

[@onlyabudi]

You can invest in any big company after a recession and make returns

[@MapAtlass]

It's great to see how you approach investing, with proper research and logic. I have seen KZbinrs that are even bigger than you teaching people about "investing" when they are nothing but speculators.

[@MrLogan2600]

Remember, there is a difference between being a speculative investor and a growth investor.

[@xthegrim]

Your videos are always on point man, keep it up. I'm a Tesla investor but everything you said is true.

[@dagmarski4133]

Do you still have them?

[@bryankim3600]

Lol do you still have em?

[@john-jk2ni]

Lmao do you still have em?

[@chickenparm4655]

Blown away by the quality of information in these videos without it feeling like a boring college lecture. Very impressed, keep up the good work!

[@AlejandroGarcia-cb8hs]

Thanks for explaining Forward P/E in more practical terms

[@freddytang2128]

heres an easy rule: if all your friends (that dont have finance education or investment expertise) are talking about an investment, getting excited about getting rich, its probably a speculative investment to avoid

[@TheSteinbitt]

GME, AMC, bitcoin/crypto

[@casiriahkenjo447]

Just open short positions on whatever they are investing in----SHORT SALE/NAKED SHORT -> AND PUT OPTIONS

[@TheSteinbitt]

@@casiriahkenjo447 That’s not exactly the route to low risk investment lol

[@casiriahkenjo447]

@@TheSteinbitt anyone that opposes direct speculation and says company doesn’t follow “correct measurements” is in the same logic Speculating

[@casiriahkenjo447]

Therefore, counter their speculation with negative speculation, open puts and short

[@arielsanchez4690]

First year investor here. I was rethinking my portfolio and thought about this video again. I'm realizing how more important than ever what you're saying really is. I've gotten some pretty good gains, but I'm starting to realize I have no idea what I'm doing and have just been stupidly lucky this year We're starting to hit a bit too much speculation and it's looking bubbly. Curious to see a video on how to start suspecting if we're in a bubble like the Shiller PE and the Buffett Indicator, because it's still tough for me to get my head wrapped around. Thanks for the awesome video!

[@Psiconauta-cabalista]

Oh, the golden age, where tela's p/e wasnt 970.

[@HASHlRAMA]

Oh, the golden age , where tesla's p/e wasn't 1300

[@zephyromg3881]

@@HASHlRAMA Oh, the golden age, where tesla's p/e wasn't almost 1600

[@FritzSchober]

When I bought Tesla 2018 its p/e was unlimited because they made no profits and I was a little bit scared that it may be overvalued... +1200% later I concluded: It now is - and sold.

[@awfm0]

@@zephyromg3881 @HASHlRAMA Oh, the golden age, where tesla's p/e wasn't almost 2000

[@benarchie6024]

@@FritzSchober Hows that working out for ya?

[@Commando303X]

Thank you: I appreciate your discussion of speculation versus investment with the acknowledgement of overlap, rather than with the tone of Draconian absolutism.

[@aqua7222]

Thank you very much for your short and well explained videos! 😀

[@CDAndrews]

Love your videos man. Commenting for the algorithm so that others will hopefully also find this truly excellent content.

[@ThePlainBagel]

Your contribution is appreciated (as is your positive feedback!)

[@beaviswealth]

Awesome and timely Rich 👍🏻

[@mattia4959]

make a video on Bloomberg Terminal pleaseeeeeee... is BMC useful? there is any platform/online course where I can learn more of the features of Bloomberg Terminal?

[@mikeno.9308]

matty YES PLEASE PLEASE

[@pearlosi8165]

I second this

[@Scarsofevil]

I used a Bloomberg Terminal while in college. Every resource that I put in effort for past projects were all of a sudden all in front my of face. I just had to slap it on a powerpoint. The only thing I would say us unbearable is it's interface. They need to seriously update it because it looks like im staring at a screen from the 80's-90's

[@devilex121]

@@Scarsofevil They aren't gonna update that disgusting UI anytime soon cos we all just keep buying anyway (myself included). Bloomberg Terminals are way too useful to not make use of (esp if you're in the financial industry).

[@Scarsofevil]

@@devilex121 It is something bloomberg can invest in because smaller firms are creating their terminals that are more UI friendly and are growing. As newer generations get promoted to executive levels, who knows... They may make the change.

[@themlgbrosftw4960]

Long term tesla Investor here, loved the video! Awesome job

[@MG-tc5bo]

I see people are simplifying the moral of the video. There are many conclusions. One is if you are going to speculate be ready to lose the money... it is not necessarily only invest with deep research.

[@TomJerry12933]

based off this video, I guess speculative can basically be said to be closer to gambling then "investing" for any given amount of certainty/research in the subject. so not just high risk/reward or unresearched as those are relative terms, but both.

[@letsgobluejays19]

Hey Richard, I really enjoy your videos! Another topic that I was hoping that you could cover are concept of off balance sheet and off balance sheet items. Thanks!

[@ThePlainBagel]

Great topic idea, I'll write it down for the future (may be a while given all the pressing topics at the moment, but thanks for the suggestion!)

[@danOH112]

I think every investor should watch your videos. Regardless of how anyone invests, you have an import low risk perspective that everyone should appreciate and consider.

[@jhutt8002]

As a beginning investor, well trader to be more exact, I'm pretty confused why in general people are so freaked about by the risk in stock market. I mean if you keep an eye on your stocks, and have done proper research, it shouldn't be hard to buy with care and sell when things are going bad. Losing 10 % is not a big deal, if you know you can outweight it by just buying more the same stock. The again, usually I think it's best to just take the hit and put same money on something inexpensive you expect to rise. It doesn't matter how big losses or how big wins you gain. As long as you're right over 50 % of your investments, you're going to come out winning, and that's not hard to do with proper research.

[@nachannachle2706]

Good balanced work on this topic, Richard. My view is that *pragmatic* investors go back and forth between focusing on quantitative (numerical) metrics (P/E ratio, ROE, etc) and qualitative (executive) metrics (i.e business model, marketing strategy, etc). Investors who lock themselves on one end or the other of this spectrum often end up disconnected from the reality of an entreprise/company. In other words, you can't just go by the books because the books can be cooked, and you can't just believe the announcements because they can fuel the hype.

[@asafpardess9210]

Risk is not the difference between speculate & invest, the diffrence is if you did your research and made a decision backed by data and analysis. Risk is the difference between investors, aggressive, active, passive, defensive

[@Thegrimreaperswrath]

yay you finally made one on Tesla!! although some think it's speculative they've yet to understand how great the product is. I bought the stock after buying the car. before experiencing the car i was unwilling to invest. good thing i did tho. I could only afford 3 shares when i bought the car but it was more than worth it. cost me 1k for the shares (330 per share) and I've almost tripled my money now.

[@Thegrimreaperswrath]

@James Sanchez beyond good quality. I haven't had any probably with it but I've only put 10k miles on it. If you have a flat tire or fender bender they'll take care of it for you and even come to you. Loving it so far especially the autopilot feature. My advice is to get one as a loaner or lease. Test driving doesn't tell you enough. If u have a house you'll love not having to go to the gas station and for longer trips, the supercharging network is best in class. I did a 12hr roadtrip to LA and it was easy to just drive 85 and quickly charge for about 15mins at each one, autopilot also did 90% of the driving so it was very relaxing. Obviously, eyes should always be on the road tho and you should always be ready to take over.

[@sharingiscaring53]

pierrot SS where are you from?tesla business needs more expansion and if the expansion is done wrong causes for risk owning the car for a year or so doesn’t help you understand the risk or the cons of the vehicle/product. plus with a series of other cars competing for its space soon giving different options to people with different styles and pros can cause a lot of uncertainty. it’s cool you own a tesla but it’s not a car it’s more fancy technology than a car which is why millennials jump on board. not to say i wouldn’t buy one but with robinhood and other apps now helping flood the market with kids jumping on board a trend jump to gain profits

[@andrewgrandma2816]

But like Atari. Will a better company overtake it. Tesla = big money until it fails. Be brave and sell early.

[@IliyanPavlov]

Great product? I drove one for a day. The initial acceleration is Wow. Then after couple of hours, you realize it is just a car with a 15-inch monitor but different from the other cars you don't know if you will arrive on time. On top of it, no normal person will buy a used one after 8-10 years if the previous owner has not changed the battery. It does not pay off to own one. The fanboys just don't get the math.

[@sharingiscaring53]

Iliyan Pavlov that’s it’s selling point the 15 inch ipad and the design lmao but like i said it’s definitely not a car company but a technology company. the car isn’t loved by car lovers at all.

[@AussieMoneyMan]

The issue is as per the definition it leaves room for subjectivity, "Firm evidence"... It's anyones guess what exactly that means.

[@andrewgrandma2816]

Did a Rothschild tell you when to divest.

[@AussieMoneyMan]

@@andrewgrandma2816 What

[@traderkevin]

I think the only difference between investing or speculating in a stock is just the amount of risk you are willing to take, TSLA might seem speculative now but so did AAPL 10-15 years ago!

[@sharingiscaring53]

TraderKev apple stock 10 years ago was at 37 dollars lmao

[@009a2]

Total agree with wht’s said, except for one thing. Tesla is not just a automotive company like GM and Ford.

[@ThePlainBagel]

Well with their weight to automotives being roughly the same as Ford and GM I would argue that it's fair to classify Tesla as an automotive company. All three companies get between 89%-94% of their total revenues from vehicle sales; Ford and GM make up the remainder from their financing business (plus a self-driving operation for GM!).

[@tylerpeterson4726]

Even within the automotive portion, Tesla owns the sales, delivery, service, and charging portions of the automotive sector. If GM and Ford owned their dealerships and service centers and gas stations, their valuation would be a lot higher.

[@AussieMoneyMan]

@@ThePlainBagel Agree

[@sharingiscaring53]

Tyler Peterson because how can you produce your produce at a high level if you own every sector of the production line. it causes for a lot of cons from mismanagement to delays

[@DDDougall]

Can you talk about the "Hidden Costs" of mutual funds?

[@Xipotec]

Great video, I got the message loud and clear. I'm going all-in on Tesla!

[@ElvishShellfish]

Do you have the trademark for the Flaming Bagel? I might just jump on that...

[@ThePlainBagel]

I do not but if you make one I’d be very interested in trying it

[@trevinbeattie4888]

I didn't invest in Tesla for my financial benefit; I invested because I believe their ideas will benefit the world. Seeing the stock rise is just evidence that those ideas are working.

[@Tiwi]

I was looking for so long for a video like this

[@YoungGrizzly]

Tesla reminds me of the crypto craze. Ahhh those were the days.

[@andrewgrandma2816]

Facebook coin is the bitcoin to be seen. If regulators say yes expect the exact rise and fall. Big profits in between.

[@MalekitGJ]

I'm just waiting for the tesla pink wojaks

[@joecurran2811]

People made a lot of money off Bitcoin tbf.

[@MalekitGJ]

@@joecurran2811 seach: South Sea Company. That money came from somewhere you know.

[@MalekitGJ]

@Jacob L Says BitCoin is a load of crap. Can't see the similarities with Tesla. Plz Jacob, get some help.

[@andrewjames5355]

Hi Richard, have you considered doing a video on ethics in investment.

[@ThePlainBagel]

That's a great topic idea, I'll add it to the list of subjects to cover. Thanks!

[@stressedbyamountainofbooks]

@@ThePlainBagel you actually did it lmao

[@Josh_Roberts]

Yolo'd my life savings into $SPCE

[@addiosnia]

🤦‍♂️

[@dylanssssss]

You should have waited until Feb 25th when it dips like crazy

[@AgentDYay]

Josh Roberts WSB is getting too large i’m scared for people’s retirement savings

[@dylanssssss]

@@AgentDYay what is wsb can't find it on robinhood

[@AgentDYay]

Astroquery its not a stock its a subreddit full of people that gamble their life savings on options contracts while shitposting and making memes

[@AxelQC]

It's okay to speculate as long as you view it as gambling, not investing. If you have money to spare and you want to follow a hunch, then go for it. Just don't put in any money that you would miss if you lost it.

[@cirentXD]

Hey Plain Bagel, can you make a video explaining why virus outbreaks, political upheaval, and other large multinational events uproot the economy in terms of investment stocks?

[@chasechae267]

Interesting. But I think what makes you are a value investor or speculator is not what company you buy, but how much you know about the company you invest in (fundamentals, economic moats, insights, and etc). As myself, self value investor in South Korea , EV battery industry is huge industry (LG CHEMICAL is NO 2 in battery manufacturer atm and many other vendors along with it) and growing super fast quarterly. I don’t invest in EV industry because I have lack of knowledge of this industry, too much capital expenditure (bad cash flow) and uncertainty about winning the competition against CATL or Panasonic. That s why I decided not to speculate but invest in others :) ( but if you know well about this industry, I think it s really a good time to invest in the EV industry)

[@HowMoneyWorks]

Just dumped my life savings into Virgin Galactic

[@TheChiefCoin]

🤨

[@ThePlainBagel]

Well, I do hear that company is going...to the moon ;)

[@cashflowmagi]

Literally can't go tits up

[@PassiveIncomeTom]

*Nice alternative!*

[@HowMoneyWorks]

@@ThePlainBagel Blue Origin and SpaceX need to go public now so we can create the "To the Moon" Index

[@obaidpayenda9245]

I love you clever way of explaining terms.

[@DrOSami]

Thanks man, keep your videos up. You've earned a subscriber!

[@l2edz]

Thanks for the informative video! Really helpful for the average joe on main street. Would you be able to do a video on the Fed's repo operations?

[@Tigrou7777]

6:51 that WW2 aircraft sound when price is falling 😂

[@remiyamin1244]

Comparing Tesla with Tech companies (like Google) is irrelevant. Since Tesla’s products are vehicles and Google’s products are algorithms and services. A very important part of Tesla’s business is manufacturing, exactly where Tesla struggles.

[@muabyt7333]

Comparing tesla with other car companies would value the company extremly low.

[@remiyamin1244]

MuabYT I agree and I think that Tesla will have a very hard time competing with other huge car manufacturers how introduce to the market affordable EVs. However, Tesla has one of the best autonomous driving system, has the greatest EV battery factory and Musk knew how to build the Tesla brand.

[@muabyt7333]

Rémi YAMIN But I dont like the price that’s required to be #1. There aren’t many laws or restrictions in autonomous driving and Musk is absolutely exploiting this. People have died because of that and he literally doesn’t care.

[@dav0625]

Your videos are really great, thank you for this. For Tesla stock, given the delta between its value and its fundamentals, can we say that, for this stock, market is inefficient ?

[@mchammer1809]

All investments are speculative. You’re speculating the price will go up, or dividends will be paid going forward.

[@randombanana640]

not really

[@finn54123]

I don’t hold any stock right now cos I sold, but I’m planning to reinvest once it dips, but I do realise the stock is overvalued, it’s just I’m investing so little I can afford to risk it. The company itself is cool, but doesn’t warrant a P/E ratio of 400

[@jarronjackson6670]

PlainBagel, I really appreciate you and your videos.

[@itschrisuphere]

I liked your particular definition of 'speculative' and was a new concept for me, thank you for the insight. However, (disclaimer: am TSLA holder) I do not believe the comparison of bagel shops is the appropriate analogy. Given the fundamental differences in pretty much every way when comparing electric cars to Internal Combustion (IC) cars, it is like comparing a buggy whip manufacturer to a transmission manufacturer (or, Blockbuster to Netflix). Unfortunately, the competing car companies are suffering from the classic 'Innovators Dilemma' (you could probably make a whole video covering that) and none, up until maybe 2 years have substantially invested in the new wave of electric vehicles. The reality is, a company can not just move their core capabilities to electirc overnight, as it represents a new core capability (much of the cost of an EV are the batteries, battery management system, and electric drive train - all of which are non-existant in IC cars) which must be built FROM SCRATCH. Tesla's lead over the competitors has only grown, and so far it appears the only two companies that have a chance at this are VW and Toyota (VW is still quite behind - but are going all in, where Toyota is too obsessed about Hybrids and Hydrogen). Mark my words, lots of blood to be spilled in Autos this decade!

[@pongop]

Thank you for this helpful video!

[@MaximShelkov]

Hey Richard great videos I am really enjoying your content. I was wondering if you’d be able to make a video about warrants and how they work? Thank you 🇨🇦

[@Broteese]

Speculation: you dont get paid anything by providing your own currency/money. Investment: you get paid by providing the same money. Do Tesla pay you to speculate in owning it? No. You speculate solely on the next buyer paying more for the same ownership stake. Does Apple? Yes. They pay you dividends, no matter what the next person wants to pay for ownership in the company. This is why owning your own residence is speculative.

[@landongendur]

I own my own residence... but I have 5 housemates paying me rent ;)

[@Icarus1234]

Could you do a video on long/short iron condords and other option strategies?

[@PierceJPeterson]

Tesla stock has shareholders in quite the state of euphoria right now. Hoping the company can continue to live up to all the hype ⚡️💪🏻

[@flyingeagle1237]

Pierce Jordan - Personal Finance Your right I fell for it and now I have lost $30

[@BosonCollider]

@Sonymnms 52 They made a non-GAAP profit and and had strong solid positive cash flow. Only GAAP profit was negative. The main reason for the difference is that GAAP forces them to defer far more revenue to the future on their leasing business when it is money that they are making now and where the probability of the deferred revenue becoming a problem is extremely low. Since their average doubling time for production is 18 months, deferring revenue makes the situation look far worse than it actually is which makes GAAP earnings far less useful than FCF and non-GAAP.

[@pdiez105]

Will you make a video recommending/comparing brokers through which to invest?

[@gc7304]

thanks for being so fair

[@azapray]

Awesome video as always Richard, but I think you could have also included phenomenon of short squeeze which was partially responsible for tesla mooning 🤣

[@jordancommons1937]

Excellent content and the animations compliment and draw engagement!! What platform do you use to create the animations??

[@andreihrusca]

very nice video. thank you Plain Bagel

[@Kevin-ky5vg]

Great video. Thank you. What minimum portfolio do you think is needed to make the jump from ETFs to individual stocks, taking into consideration the transaction costs? Is there a general rule of thumb here? 100k, 200k, 500k???

[@TheUndulyNoted]

This comment is just staggeringly stupid. Please for love of God do not go and try to pick your own stocks, you clearly have no idea what you're even saying.

[@twinriverstudio7273]

I'm confused as to why it says TSLA shares were worth 773.48 in the image posted at 5:36 but looking at the charts the high was 409.97 in 2021. Was this just a fabricated graph for explanation purposes only? Has price history been modified, i'm so confused.

[@ThePlainBagel]

The stock went through a stock split

[@exaucemayunga22]

Very informative video. I'm gonna buy more Tesla shares now.

[@savagefox3530]

I do recommend investing in Tesla but don't expect a giant Spike again going to continue growing but I think it's going to grow slowly from this point on

[@jim8072]

Great video!

[@gunavanshakd1568]

Hi, how can I get to know analyst upgrades and downgrades in real time - on the spot? Not in the later hours or in the next day? Also to the earning releases? I tried registering to listen to earning calls, but I sometimes found that the earnings are released by the time I joined the earning conference call Please do a video on these two topics or do help responding here Thank you

[@ThePlainBagel]

Hi there, I may do a video on those topics but I'll also address your questions here. To be honest, I'm not sure where you would get live analyst updates; there are some sites (i.e. Globe and Mail) that highlight a few analyst ratings for different stocks, and you can get ratings directly from the companies typically through their brokerages services, but I'm not aware of any site or service that aggregates that research live. As for the second point, we typically first see a company's results through a document known as the 8K (in the U.S.) and this is filed BEFORE the earnings call. You would need to subscribe to some notification service to be updated when an 8K is filed, but there are plenty out there (the one I use is through my work and is a paid service). Hope this helps!

[@damnikjain8985]

Awesome knowledge share Cryptocurrency, can you make video on this topic

[@Noe-gj9mw]

It's interesting how he says "we don't know how Tesla will fair in a recession", obviously he couldn't have known, but in the end, corona has caused Tesla to come out even stronger than if corona hadn't happened

[@obviouslymatt6452]

this wasn’t a recession

[@abigheyl25]

@@obviouslymatt6452 what was it then?

[@davide7414]

​@@abigheyl25 We could argue that technically, with the covid-19 pandemic, we have experienced a recession. It is clear however that, given the very specific circumstances and the fact that it was an exogenous shock, it was very different from a "normal" recession. For a start, there has been a general financial optimism. The stock market recovered from its 2020 crash in literally 3 weeks, and has skyrocketed since then. During this period savings rate have generally grown, and governments have been able to get enormous financial resources trough debt. You can take for a comparison the recession that started in 2007. In the following 2 years the US stock market continued to go down and in 2009 it had lost 50% of its value. Saving rates collapsed and so did many financial institution and the housing market. With saving rates going down, housing loosing their value and a bear market, for years the general experienced a severe decline in wealth. Governments were unable to do much as even in advanced economies (especially Europe) they were at risk of default. Tesla has not faced such a crisis. What Tesla is facing is an extremely optimistic bull market, and extremely generous stimulus from government and central banks. In such a favorable situation, it is kinda obvious that Tesla is going well in the stock market. But during an endogenous and severe economic and financial crisis (2007-like) I honestly think that a company with the risk exposure of Tesla would have simply collapsed.

[@TheRilai]

stonks only go up

[@History-IA-AI]

love youre videos help me a lot, where do you start a research to invest in forex GBP/AUD for example

[@mofojohnson1]

Tesla was a value stock back then

[@TheKdcool]

I laughed at the "high" 74 P/E hahahaha

[@JunSian1001]

Funny, I buy stocks when the price is going down. Usually it will go down more. XD

[@kalebhgoodwin]

Short term momentum. Need to invest with long term thinking

[@MouseFINland]

When stock is in downward trend, you shouldnt expect it to bounce back up before the trend changes

[@JunSian1001]

@@MouseFINland The question is when does the downward trend end? After 1 month? 1 year? 10 years?

[@MouseFINland]

@@JunSian1001 you need some technical and fundamental analysis with the guessing work

[@steak5599]

That's why don't spend all your money at once. Let say a Stock falls from $20 to 15, you spend 25% of your money on it, when it falls to 13, spend another 25%, so on and so forth. If it starts going back up, you just stop buying. Now you ask me: What if I spend 100% of my money and the stock still going down? me: Look at my portfolio and cry😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@floxy20]

"Returns"? Sure, if you bought it when it was cheaper and sold it. Real returns make you money and you still have the stock.

[@inspiringbrainofficial]

Make a video on how student debt works

[@qingyangzhang6093]

Meanwhile: r/WSB membership stonks by 200k (25%) year-to-date

[@broski365]

Why is this marked "for kids"? Its ruining my app.

[@ThePlainBagel]

I checked the settings, doesn’t say it’s marked on my end for kids, what problems are you experiencing?

[@samialbarrak3352]

Hi, very nice Video. May you do new video how you analysis stack in yahoo finance or google finance and the best 10 criteria you can find it on it, farthermore how you know about stack how match the debt or loan the company have and should return it to the bank? Thank you again .

[@princejag]

Man now we can easily follow you because of moderate delivery of words.

[@gelasio88]

Tesla the modern day tulip.

[@specimen-ch7zi]

Lmao.

[@farmer1237]

Those who understand Tesla went long at low price and enjoy the huge gain. Those who don't understand it are trying to teach other people. The first thing you should do is to close your short position, then humbly listen to the longs why they invested into Tesla in the first place.

[@dr-sy1fs]

Tesla is only speculative if you have insufficient information and insufficient insight (thinking inside the 20th century box). A horse drawn carriage company had a tried a true business for many years at the turn of the previous century, by your incorrect definition it would be an "investment" (and secure though they go bankrupt in a few years) while Ford with a new production line to make cars would be "speculative". My definition of Speculation is to bet money for the PURPOSE of making money, and an Investment is placing money for the PURPOSE of helping to fund innovation, new projects new technology, and improve society. Also a company is not necessarily inherently risky, its perceived as risky if you have insuficent information, but it can be perceived as not risky for someone with relevant information. Tesla and Virgin Galactic can be seen as risky for someone with limited information, while someone else could estimate that there is little risk(good or bad) since Tesla could be evaluated as extremely likely to succeed and Virgin Galactic could be evaluated as almost certain to go bankrupt within a few years.

[@kapitol5314]

Beautiful information. Thanks!

[@Nikhil-Tomar]

Tesla Has A P/E ratio Of Above 350, And a good p/e ratio is 20 or below, If i Judge alone on this, then this stock is not worth my money

[@wilshire36]

I'm kind of getting tired of people saying things are OverValued. If the market ends the day on a high note than that's the market determining its value. Your personal emotions and feelings be damned! The market doesn't care what you THINK a stock should be the market will always be the final verdict on value at the end of a day.

[@jaypark6960]

Forward P/E of 74x... overvalued? Now it's 300x!

[@TheKdcool]

Now P/E of 1600 haha

[@filipth7101]

I'm all in Tesla but I'm only 15 soooo

[@HiddenBars]

Hold it

[@sharingiscaring53]

this is why tesla stock price is soo high....

[@mal_wa_a3mal]

Well now we know how Tesla can ACE a recession :P

[@austinblackburn8095]

That or people are so desperate to invest in anything its value disconnects from what it is worth. In know way should tesla be worth more than Toyota, but it is. Tesla is a great company, but in know way does it deserve to worth almost 100 billion more than Toyota.

[@mal_wa_a3mal]

@@austinblackburn8095 for now, yes you are right.. but look 5-10 years, it is too under-valued now, but yes i won't buy tesla during these days, i would wait for it to deep more

[@austinblackburn8095]

@@mal_wa_a3mal Well 5 to 10 years is a long time to price in to the stock and im not sure a 300 billion dollar evaluation is fair then. Competition in electric is increasing. Right now Tesla is the Apple of electric cars, but can they realistically keep that as other car companies add more and more electric cars to their luxury car divisions? Also Tesla is looking to release cheaper and cheaper cars which might help their market share, but could make their brand name overall less desirable especially over seas where people tend to see cars even more so than America as a status symbol. I think Tesla will around for a while I just don't see it even comming close to jusifying its current 280 billion dollar value.

[@Icarus1234]

Are you telling me that I shouldn't be hanging out in r/wsb? WHAT BLASPHEMY!

[@MrMattumbo]

As much as I agree with you on this, missing out on becoming a millionaire because I followed logical investing strategies with Tesla has ruined me. If the market doesn't care about fundamentals and companies announcing negative EPS can shoot up while those with solid EPS decline then I might as well speculate and hope to cash out before the bubble bursts. We're living through the ultimate clown bull market.

[@TheChiefCoin]

I sold every stock at $901. I would consider buying back in at $450/$475

[@trapsarentgay4195]

As someone who still has positions in the company, I sure hope it doesn't drop that low

[@PassiveIncomeTom]

You may have to up your target. The last pullback was in the low $700s or high 600s.

[@gobblenater]

Im buying now and if it drops like that Im goingnto buy more. Of course theres no reason to suspect it will drop that far given the fact that tesla leads several industries right now and cars are only a small part of that.

[@trapsarentgay4195]

@@PassiveIncomeTom I would gladly buy more if it gets to that again

[@emreken7315]

T B What other industries? I'm curious to know

[@theintelligentinvestor-per5790]

I dont think Tesla's todays price is justified by any fundamentals. Investing is relatively easy, if any given company makes profits, the stock will convert itself into a savings account and its much more likely that the investment will grow with time. Although Tesla's products are good for the environment and are the future of vehicles, this story is completely different compared to investing in Tesla. Simply, Tesla is way overvalued.

[@AndresRamirez-fi5uw]

Lmao its incredibly speculative

[@retro8919]

All stocks are speculating .....

[@QuietJugung]

If you understand Tesla strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats, it is not speculative to invest in it.

[@ThePlainBagel]

A SWOT analysis will help you understand how the business will do, but the stock price is something else ON TOP of that. Amazon is a highly valuable company, but is it worth $1T? $10T? $100T? It’s an extreme example, but just because something is valuable doesn’t mean it’s stock price isn’t too high

[@QuietJugung]

@@ThePlainBagel Agree. Opportunities numbers need to be estimated.

[@wilshire36]

Using Tesla as your speculative stock example has aged quite well ; ) lmfao

[@ahmxtb]

Meanwhile TSLA $1400

[@MarleyOfWar]

Did u mean 2000 hahaha woaaaw

[@theone9273]

Here from 2023. TSLA is on track to beat BRK-A within the next month.

[@hunchofmateus2422]

you telling me that the $10.000 I putd un Tesla because Larry from work told me to won't make me rich?

[@ZacharyLaid]

Literally every single investment is speculative, the world could just end tomorrow.

[@AussieMoneyMan]

Unlikely though...

[@williamd7161]

Tesla is not just the electric cars. As long as Musk is running the show and continues to innovate Tesla still has a room to grow.

[@ThePlainBagel]

It's mostly electric cars though, and it's share of revenue from car sales is roughly the same as Ford and GM

[@jager_123]

@@ThePlainBagel Tesla is a car, energy and tech company. cleantechnica.com/2020/02/06/tesla-is-a-tech-company-heres-why/

[@luisduron2722]

2022

[@Joshua-ms1ts]

What are the odds Elon Musk actually watched this video haha

[@jamesblace5761]

Lol, buying is a car is NOT an investment, if you by a new car you will lose -50% of your money the first 2 years, better stick to your old one and invest into stuff that at least has the possiblity to gain value..

[@lukemccann]

It’s obviously speculating now. It will dump incredibly hard from here

[@PassiveIncomeTom]

I think there is still a lot more growth left for the company.

[@lukemccann]

Passive Income Tom if you’re holding shares now good luck but I would definitely sell now