What Michigan MUST Do at QB Position, + HUGE Injury Updates, Potential Flip Target, and More!!

[@garygreen860]

Let’s try a screen pass to edwards for once.

[@earnieeveridge]

Ditto! Damn it, man! 😆

[@thompson905]

Hard to run a screen with the line being a mess.

[@92scrilla]

I’m not sure why their not putting in at slot😒

[@brianwoigdka4799]

@@thompson905on an HB slip screen the line doesn't even need to block anybody until after the pass...

[@lostinthesauce8855]

Why are we blaming the players and not blaming the coaches here??? Kirk Campbell is an ASS OC he can’t call plays to save his live and he’s not putting our players in positions they need to succeed

[@bigrob714]

I agree..but its his first yr also...Kirk Campbell

[@llongone2]

I'm also starting to think our main problems are more of a coaching problem and less of a (athlete) talent problem.

[@PerelliVision]

@@bigrob714not how first year

[@jeromelewis4677]

@lostinthesauce8855 that's who it really is

[@PerelliVision]

@@jeromelewis4677 this ain’t Campbell first coordinator job

[@1234MarioDuane]

Expectations for Michigan this year are ridiculous! This is the only part of Michigan football that I hate sometimes, the fans! 😂 We won the Natty, and it was fans saying, but if this had happened, we could have lost! 😂 Ohio won a chip almost 11 years ago, and we are talking about trying to run it back. Knock it off. We have Jadyn Davis next year, Carter Smith coming in for 25 and Brady Hart in 26. We have awesome offensive line recruits waiting in the wings. Be thankful, and just relax. Michigan will be fine. We lost a lot, but we have super talented kids at all positions waiting for their turn. And that's before we hit the portal this off-season. Cmon, son! Go Blue! 〽️🏈💯💪🏾👑🏆

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

@@1234MarioDuane I agree with that. There’s no doubt we were going to take a step back this season. The future is definitely bright!

[@andylivadariu4369]

Until all these exciting prospects decommit, cause our coaches suck

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

@@andylivadariu4369 They committed to Michigan for a reason

[@razor7241]

@@andylivadariu4369Or decomitt because of the upcoming NCAA sanctions.

[@robertjulieannanalett1691]

Wishful thinking it's done on the field man

[@fall4ever]

It IS a very interesting and somewhat frustrating year so far. Hopefully, they'll figure things out soon! Go Blue!!

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

@@fall4ever Yeah hopefully we see some improvement against Washington. Going to need to play our best football on the road

[@robertjulieannanalett1691]

Need some patients are getting better each week go Blue

[@MichaelLong-l1t]

Go blue!

[@OneCraZyWhoDat]

A real QB would be a great start.

[@AidenB1010]

orjis the best qb weve got. hes shown that he has an arm, can make decent reads and isnt a horribly off target passer like joe milton, and my favorite is that he can actually protect the ball. hes shown some difficulty with his reads, last week his pace was too slow and he missed some open chunk plays and this week he rushed through many reads which resulted in him missing details like the safety looming over that loveland post route, but he looks like he can do everything else. the problem is we call 15 pass plays per game, only do it in obvious passing situations, and are starting possibly the worst pass protecting offensive tackle(at the d1 level at least) that ive ever seen

[@zacksoos1250]

@@AidenB1010orji is not a qb he only completes screens and setup passes he can’t progression read pass downfield or read coverages. He’s a good athlete pretty bad qb

[@OneCraZyWhoDat]

@@AidenB1010 He's no QB.

[@jivepatrol6833]

I just think the offensive game plan has been very poor. (1) Michigan doesn't throw on 1st down (2) pass plays are too spaced out and it's impossible for ANY QB to develop timing and rhythm (3) pass protection has been spotty and Alex cannot set his feet and fire it (4) Alex needs to sometimes roll left and have a receiver on that side of the field open to throw to. He tends to roll right when he's going to throw - easy to spot and defend. I am behind Alex and think he's improving. He needs to be able to start out completing short passes to build his confidence and rhythm and THEN he can start gunning it down the field. Let's keep in mind this was only his 2nd start. Remember Alabama had Milroe starting for the first time last year and he went through growing pains too. Go Blue!

[@tomcarb967]

Think so too

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

@@jivepatrol6833 They did have a few more first down passes against Minnesota. It’s just hard to pass the ball on 1st down because you can’t get behind the chains. It just makes it more hard on the QB if you’re behind the chains and it’s 3rd and long. Rather be in 3rd and short situations

[@jivepatrol6833]

@@MichiganSportsTalk - I agree with your points but they need to keep the defense constantly guessing. I remember Michigan teams from the past that did pass on 1st down and had a more balanced attack of run/pass mix. These were always the most successful teams. All the best to you and thanks!

[@Vitaj72]

Thanks for the updates! I feel like orji throws better on the run. Def gotta have plays with Mullins and Edwards on the field at the same time.

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

@@Vitaj72 Yeah I agree. Sherrone said today that they’ve been practicing plays with Orji, Mullings and Edwards all in at the same time, but they’re yet to use them in game. Maybe we’ll see some against Washington

[@justinsaunders785]

Let me get this straight here…… Michigans a dog at Washington……. Washington lost to Rutgers……… Washington is 1-1…………. Michigan beat USC………… I’m still lost here.

[@OneCraZyWhoDat]

Put $ on Michigan.

[@justinsaunders785]

@@OneCraZyWhoDat I’m about to watch some Washington film and highly consider it.

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

@@justinsaunders785 It is pretty wild lol. I get it’s a road game on the west coast and all, but I just don’t think Washington is that good this year

[@thalleshoward3962]

If they lose another game I would either put Tuttle in or just start Davis.

[@johnnywebb2351]

No WD 😂pleeease

[@aarunbrown967]

@@johnnywebb2351bro I agree wit u 😂😂😂

[@PerelliVision]

This is why your a KZbin coach

[@aarunbrown967]

@@PerelliVision well wat would you suggestion coach 😂😂

[@PerelliVision]

@@aarunbrown967 I’d suggest you just watch the games and learn football 😂😂

[@Peepbus]

The old Harbaugh offense was never great. Let's do something different, like spread the field so our athletes can be athletes.

[@jeromelewis4677]

If Tuttle is healthy, if offense struggle, then we need to look at Tuttle or Davis man like forreal. Cause all this trying to run, and it isn't working. Somebody needs to throw the ball.

[@OneCraZyWhoDat]

@jeromelewis4677 I wish. Davis will red shirt. There is no chance of seeing him this season.

[@PerelliVision]

What is Davis gonna do ?

[@OneCraZyWhoDat]

@@PerelliVision Throw the football with accuracy.

[@PerelliVision]

@@OneCraZyWhoDat you think he wouldn’t be playing already if it was that easy

[@OneCraZyWhoDat]

@PerelliVision If Orji was so great, he would've beat out Werner, huh? With Davis, the plan was always to red shirt him. It's exactly what I said they would do. He probably is our best passer on the team. Unfortunately, they want to red shirt him.

[@waynechelovecurtis5698]

Jack tuttle, please. I know it's late in the season, but the offense is horrible, the play calling no creativity. Them using Orji the way they supposed to is not happening. Get a more traditional QB.

[@bmuhleman]

With Mullins in they can play action rollout and throw to TE like Griese used to do. Also he is improving and since everyone wants to say Milroe, Milroe was not balling out last year he struggled. Orji is growing, making good decisions other 1 pick. As long as we win fans need to relax good lord

[@richhopson6063]

I thought Kirk Campbell was the QB coach last year. He should have input on their play. I am an Orji fan but he misses to many reads. Too many wide open receivers. We need a good game against UW. Thanks for the update. Go Blue!

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

@@richhopson6063 Yeah he was the QB coach last year. I agree, hopefully he continues to improve and plays better against Washington. Go Blue!

[@challengegamer5646]

Go Blue 💙💛💙💛 beat Washington beat Illinois beat Michigan state beat Oregon beat Indina beat northwestern beat Ohio state💙💛💙💛

[@ThatGuy-cb3yv]

Mich CANT do anything about its horrid QBs. Just gotta suffer knowning theres going to be 4 more losses starting this saturday. First half teams dont travel. This coaching staff is in over its head.

[@eltonjcasarez2744]

Dave p , will pay 3mill for a qb .

[@richhopson6063]

@eltonjcasarez2744 We'll see next time the portal opens.

[@Tepify]

Both of our starting quarterbacks were not developed behind McCarthy and now that it’s their time to play and be a starter they both looked like Freshman.. we can blame players, coaches, whoever, Kirk Campbell not only needs to tell the QB the play but also part of his job should be telling the QB who has little experience who the first 2 reads are and if they’re not there to take off from the pocket. Orji did that a few times but make it easier for the man and tell him after the second read to just go unless that third read is WIDE open. Alex Orji could be like Jalen Milroe, who has 8 rushing TD’s this season

[@ronowens1879]

It happens in every game. The second half. They only played 2/1/4. Quarters in the USC game. Look at the game in the second half

[@markmajkowski9545]

Lotta SLOPPY football this year. Not as bad as being up 28 - blowing the lead - and getting BTB 75 yarders. Small potatoes comparatively - and better than an NIU or KY or Rutgers LOSS some teams managed!

[@cyrushines1889]

Did you see that Ivan Taylor visited Alabama ? Is this concerning ?

[@millertimeast]

I don’t think they switch to Tuttle unless orji throws an enormous amount of picks like Davis Warren. Which honestly I won’t be surprised if he does so I’m all for seeing Tuttle in the next couple weeks!

[@jeffreyolshelfske2413]

I think Michigan is tipping to the defense when there gonna burn or pass by there formations and coaches are adjusting at halftime there secondary is really athletic challenging the receivers go blue

[@woodshed_moments]

They don't need to do anything at the quarterback position, but admit they screwed up by not starting the quarterback they've been building a system quietly around the last 3 years and then suddenly bitched up at the last minute and started the drop back passer, because they advanced a position coach to the OC position in the name of "continuity" instead of sticking to the recipe where maybe he should have had a contest for OC or looked outside while he called plays.... Michigan probably wouldn't be a one lost team right now if they had done that. They have their squad, let them form an identity.... There is no controversy at running back, You have your running back Donovan, Edwards. They needed to identify who the powerback was gonna be because you cannot run an RPO properly without having a power back in the slot.... Khalil Mullins has shown up and blown up - Use your slot back and 3rd and situational alternative... then you have Loveland, Bredesen, Klein and Orji There's there your squad, get behind that! They need to focus on Washington right now. Kaliakmanus floated over from Minnesota, so he ought to remember that beat down he got last year... Martindale needs to make adjustments for playing against tempo because not being prepared for that almost ruined the game last week. PJ Fleck is a greasy coach, he knew he wasn't gonna win, so he would apply a film tactics against Michigan, leverage whatever Michigan failed to secure in previous games was used against Michigan in the second half flawlessly and almost lost the game. There are 2 types of coaches with these young coaches today... gifted or greazy Fleck is not gifted, but he is friggin greazy... fool almost walked off with stealing a game... They need to sort out the playbook and not be focused on listening to what everybody else is saying. They need to be doing and Orji has to be adapting to he doesn't have to do any of that, they need to diversify their running attack.

[@bugsyalexander]

Got damn he’s had 2 starts this is why our fan base is wack as fuck no patience and a lot folks don’t know football and it shows in the comments

[@biggruv2839]

Cold hard facts here. Why did we bring back Amorion Walker? Morris, Morgan Charleston and Walker are all being wasted!!! I don't believe in Orji when it matters! That's how I feel Damnit! Go Blue!

[@desmondcharles]

I’ve been saying this since game one KC play calling is horrible. When you have WR who have a hard time getting separation and a limited QB you have to create plays that will scheme them open.

[@Tyler-un8ly]

We HAVE to fire Kirk Campbell if the offensive play calling doesn’t get better and to a lesser degree Wink Martindale, zone works the whole first half and then we start running zero blitz man defense during the second half? What are we doing

[@Harvey-dn8rk]

Where is Walker at WR ? Our WR group is not elite. I would be looking in the Portal for a great QB and two WR 6’2-6’4 with speed or fire Bellamy

[@marktilley388]

He was very careful with the ball and there were a couple plays if he recognized coverage a little sooner, and just lets the ball go he would be better. He is playing scared because he doesn't want to get benched. They are currently a 4-5 loss team they keep playing like this. Tuttle is experienced and he can at least make the throws in tight windows. Wide Receiver is still the issue. Still think Orji needs to be a WR or TE he is not a top teir QB

[@opitz30]

The receiving core needs to step it up and learn how to get separation. If the defenders are grabbing your jersey, smack that arm down and off of you. That'll give you momentum and create distance right there in it's own attempt.

[@Knowledgeispowersheep]

Michigan losses to Washington. Jack Tuttle will be in as QB next week

[@thomassalvi]

WHEN are we going to see Orji show off his RUNNING skills? RPO? Option? QB draw? Run as a Wildcat?

[@Tepify]

I couldn’t believe how many players we had out for Michigan against Minnesota

[@tyfly1830]

You can't expect him to have a perfect game in the rain I think he can throw with more reps and the wide receivers have to play with more effort to get open his main problem is reading his progression and being more quick of throwing the ball insteading holding the ball

[@ranaik119]

I agree!! Why doesn’t Michigan throw screen passes to Edwards out the back field!!??

[@brandonmcbroom9209]

Michigan is not running it back. Davis Warren was just as good as having Jayden Davis out there. The offense is super young

[@MichaelLong-l1t]

First

[@973Sabree]

Great stuff! I definitely appreciate the recruit flip news, hadn't heard of him. Go Blue

[@pmaximus5659]

Another great review and analysis

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

@@pmaximus5659 I appreciate it!

[@ajphoenix8]

I’d like to see Tuttle if Orji struggles against Washington. We’ve seen him run this offense in small spurts. Also want to see more of Donovan and Kalel on the field together. It looked pretty good and the looks we got from it were good for the most part. I think I counted a dozen or so snaps with both on the field. I hope that gets up in the twenties next game. Go blue

[@973Sabree]

I really believe #2 needs to get on the field abs utilize those 4 games

[@johnnywebb2351]

Nice job and good 👍🏾 update, thanks MST

[@pumapaw2020]

F****eyes are laughing in their sleep

[@michaelsinacola587]

Is there any rule to play Ori and Davis at the same time?

[@paulevans3105]

If they dont get better at qb soon the wr's wont come.

[@hermanbrown9488]

We just have to be patient man.

[@osvaldomateo5853]

Orgi is not our best QB but the only one Michigan has. prepare for a painful season

[@DustinWillett-c7p]

You can't improve when you don't call passing plays. The kid has a crazy arm he just needs the reps and confidence to go with it. People keep saying he can't pass and we need a passer blah blah but don't realize the little amount of passing plays they have given him.

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

They've given him enough, he's not going to be an elite passer, but he's shown flashes of what he can do. He just needs to continue to improve each week

[@steveskuras2515]

How bout throwing on first down...is that too much to ask? Throw a bomb on the first play of the first possession...just to loosen up the defense. They're going to stack against the run...throw it long

[@maryohara1224]

Many years ago my brother, a Mich Daily writer who knew tons about football, used to joke that the Michigan game plan was always Run Run Pass Punt. Sad and funny😅😅😅

[@freemanmt1]

You're right about winning The Natty and expectations. But, this coaching staff is horrendous. Alex orgy is not a quarterback. been a Michigan fan since I was born. that said, this is the worst coaching job I've seen in a lifetime.

[@mikeworkman1759]

You obviously weren't around for rich rod...

[@johnnymaccool9828]

rotate till someone gets hot

[@MichaelLong-l1t]

Passing game looked better receiver's we're actually open.

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

It did look better, but there's still a lot to work on still. Hopefully we see a little more progress against Washington. Go Blue!

[@jeromelewis4677]

Im hoping since we are getting these receivers and QB I hope we start throwing the ball.

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

@@jeromelewis4677 We will, we just have to get past this season😅

[@feliperodriquez643]

Listen it's not the QB not making plays it's on your OC that is doing the play calling I just don't think Campbell has it Turtle will not help to much accident prone

[@aarunbrown967]

I agree bro when I see some things he calls and I’m like WTF he call that smh

[@PerelliVision]

😂😂😂😂 when you wrote this you knew it was a lie

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

Play calling can definitely be better, but it's also on the QB to make the right reads and throws. Orji has missed two wide open receivers in back to back games now, and he needs to learn and capitalize on those plays moving forward

[@aarunbrown967]

@@MichiganSportsTalk I agree but that int he threw was bad but if he doesn’t float it colostomy catches it smh he was actually open but the plays that get called have me scratching my head like wtf

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

@@aarunbrown967 Loveland wasn’t even the right read on that play, he could’ve caught it if he threw a better pass but Edwards was wide open on a wheel route. Would’ve been an easy throw and an easy 6

[@Lwellj45]

10 new starters including the QB on offense = inconsistancy. How they progress while hopefully still winning is the tell. I believe they can.

[@PerelliVision]

That’s your excuse for the bad coaching we all seeing ?

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

Agreed

[@jalennelson6008]

Me too but a new OC is needed

[@Al-Rudigor]

I see that powerhouse Fresno State got blown out.

[@markmajkowski9545]

By the BACKUP QB! 13/16 182 yards 3TD’s. 250+ rushing. That’s the IDEAL Mich Pass run mix.

[@MichaelLong-l1t]

Thanks for the updates bro!

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

I got you! Thanks for the support!

[@tycesumerall8718]

You can bench orgi if you want your going to lose the team seems like player want play for him stop listening to fanbase who don't know anything or media

[@johnnywebb2351]

Agreed 👍🏾 💯

[@charleshicks299]

English

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

@@tycesumerall8718 He just has to continue to show improvement in the passing game. If not, then they might have to change QB’s if they want a chance to beat Oregon or Ohio State

[@richardholcomb6929]

Is Tuttle still hurt ?

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

@@richardholcomb6929 He wasn’t listed on the availability report so he should be close to full health

[@robertkornosky543]

I don’t like the coach, playcalling…doesn’t throw a football that much I think he’s getting a new coach next year

[@thomassalvi]

Bo won with QBs like Hewlett, Dickey, and Demetrius Brown. Orji is better than all the above

[@rustyvanbrocklin7560]

Pretty soon it's not going to matter. As soon as Tuttle is ready he should be the guy. Orji is a great athlete. After watching the replay of the USC, Minnesota games Orji missed too many wide open pass plays. If we want to push for the playoffs, we better put Tuttle in.

[@SCOTTCOOK-d8n]

If Moore is starting Alex again vs Washington they need to fire him he didn't throw the ball enough when they had the lead to see if he could to give him confidence reps if you cant pass there's nothing to be scared of Michigan is going to need to score 40 to win and there coverage is awful

[@townshealthservices6339]

Orgi has had 2 starts. He looks good. The O line is the problem. Tuttle won't last long.

[@absalonpedraza1339]

How raw is Jadyn Davis for not winning the starting job over Davis Warren and Alex Orji?

[@PACBLUEBELT1973]

Washington isn't good?

[@hundenstihl]

Without the gifts from the officiating over the last 2 weeks, Michigan could very well be 2-3. The second half disappearing act that has become the norm will start costing them games.

[@MichiganSportsTalk]

@@hundenstihl Lol, what gifts?