What Navy SEAL Trevor Thompson Thinks of Women Entering the Program

Taken from JRE #1434 w/Trevor Thompson: • Joe Rogan Experience #...

[@rhett3185]

By lowering standards you’re admitting that you aren’t equal. Edit: why the heck is this my most popular comment and can you please stop arguing about whatever you’re arguing about. Thanks in advance.

[@LawsonShawn90]

Even if they do meet the standards which are not lowered, they are still toast. Theres a reason why they were not allowed in the first place. I came across an interview of a female marine who said that women should not be allowed because training is so rigorous that it caused her to lose her fertility! Its upto them now. If they are willing to take such risks just for the sake of some politically correct agenda, let them go ahead with it.

[@kristianbasile7141]

@@LawsonShawn90 Hey equal opportunity and we each get to decide what we want to do with our lives. If some crazy woman wants to become a Navy Seal and passes the test there is nothing wrong with that. The only issue is if they make the test easier which beyond being incredibly stupid is also sexist.

[@LawsonShawn90]

@@kristianbasile7141 All I'm saying is there's no point of equal opportunity if it ends up killing you. Secondly, if you still want it, then by all means, please go ahead, its your life after all.

[@docducttape9270]

@@LawsonShawn90 She prolly took roids just to keep up. Smh

[@patrioticeagle577]

Roses are red Violets are blue Dont lower the standards

[@noahblowingless6435]

“The people that want to prove it are the ones that aren’t in the Ring.” Exactly

[@melclarke64]

point?

[@hunterkai6772]

@@melclarke64 it would be like me saying anyone can knock out The Rock in a fight, without ever being in a fight before.

[@robc1765]

@@melclarke64 the point is self explanatory, if you don't understand that, you probably shouldn't have commented.

[@melclarke64]

If theuy

[@melclarke64]

@@hunterkai6772 ain a fist fight the rock wins if you he other person is a 98 lb female with a gun she wins..like I said most combat these days is from a distance

[@Argentfan]

I think they SHOULD remove the restriction against women and stop there. If a woman can do the same test and pass, she's special, she deserves to be there. Don't lower standards to let more in though, it compromises the force you have.

[@scenopiachannel]

Why allow women in at all? They're just going to mess up the dynamics.

[@MyLoserville]

That's how it always starts out, then they'll say the men in charge are sexists and that's the reason why they didn't make it.

[@americanpig-dog7051]

No. Every male occupation that allows women in is eventually forced to lower the standards and take extremely subpar women in when none of them make it. It's opening up a can of worms.

[@coolcat6341]

Well said

[@deckacards]

@@americanpig-dog7051 I want to agree with the original poster. Morally he is correct, same standards for all would be fair. In reality every time this happens, what you said comes true. It is the only way to let in a larger group of women, to make it "look" more even. Can't have those tough questions like: "Why are only three Navy Seals women?!" Muh diversity!

[@delisa8575]

"The people that want to prove it aren't in the ring." *FACTS*

[@kristenlong9450]

If a female can’t meet the same standards that are already in place, they shouldn’t be a Seal. It’s only going to put the entire team in danger

[@Luke_wait_for_it_marengo]

Respect to you. Tell the others.

[@purplekitty]

Johnny Five I can see a lot of you morons didn’t hear the part where it’s politicians that are pushing for it not women.

[@marioramirez6741]

You just heard the training was in place since the 60s and it clearly didn't have women in mind. Use logical sense.

[@neilgeckle6061]

AbraRf *Shrimp dick alert 🍤 * That coming from dude with a little anime girl as your banner...

[@analienfromouterspace]

@@purplekitty And politicians gets their support by the ones backing them, aka people voting them into office. You can not blame one side without blaming the other, it is all connected. Tell me how politicians gets voted into office the first place, must uh be uh voting for them.

[@jobertsworld35]

The military is not to bend or lower standards. The military doesnt change for you, YOU change for the military. End of story.

[@YoungGzBlitz]

The military have changed standards many times over time, what are you talking about? This is factually inaccurate

[@jobertsworld35]

I never said they haven't. I'm saying that they shouldn't have. The idea is that they are select and picky about the troops that fight for our country. Just because they have changed some things, doesn't mean they should have. As soon as we start bending to the will of people's feelings, the easier we will bend to the will of the enemy.

[@YoungGzBlitz]

@@jobertsworld35 Please tell me an example of where they lowered a standard and it wasn't a good decision. If they lower the standard there is probably a reason, but I'm sure you know more than the generals and recruiters making and enforcing the rules because it sounds really good to say on the internet You last sentence is literraly mesningless

[@jobertsworld35]

Well for starters, it's probably not smart to put someone on the front lines who spent their lives popping adderall and antidepressants, and cant be happy with themselves, let alone figure out which bathroom to use. That's a liability and a dangerous thing when you're so indecisive and opposed to authority.

[@sereysothe.a]

Joberts World have you ever met a woman in your life

[@devinmcelroy2569]

G.I. Jane has a special attribute most Navy Seals don’t; Plot Armor.

[@Tsamokie]

gi jane Bwwwaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[@Beast-1431]

Raw Engineer get outta here Canadian

[@Tier1GearEDCReviews]

😂😂🍻

[@snailsaredumb9412]

Shut up, shut up, shut up!!... I came to avoid spoilers, not get them...

[@Beast-1431]

Frank Dodich you forgot “eh” Igloo farmer. :(

[@Beyond_Partisan]

As a woman I hate the idea of lowering the standards for ANYTHING to allow women in. It's like saying we are 'less than'. Allow us to EARN it just like the men. We have our differences and I am so grateful for the men who run the seals. They are extremely bad ass and keep us all safe. Thank you

[@JR-vt7rb]

But you're less stronger than a man, so why would you want to be in the army?, because it looks fun?

[@garrettvaughn3086]

@@JR-vt7rb dude your comment is completely irrelevant to her point.

[@JR-vt7rb]

@@garrettvaughn3086 not at all, her point is that women have the right to earn a position in the army but it isnt about that, is about having strong capable soldiers, so why somebody who cant carry a 120kg man wants to join in the first place?, war is not a game

[@JesusChrist-vq6lk]

@@JR-vt7rb he's right.. it seems like you haven't read her comment properly

[@JR-vt7rb]

@@JesusChrist-vq6lk and seems you just want to sound inclusive and "woke", i dont feel safe with "Emmas" defending our borders, im sure there are roles where women can excel in the army, but fighting isnt one of them

[@tonytanti8138]

Just like how they lowered standards for fire fighting....if I'm trapped in a burning house I want the 6 foot 4 ex football player not the gal who just barely passed

[@asg7448]

You do realise there are men that barely pass too, right? I think what you mean is you don't want someone unqualified to do a job, and I agree... no need to bring sex into it tho. If a women is fit and capable, why can't she be a firefighter?

[@demoneyeslaharl]

@@Rodrigo13Solario It's amazing how many people want others to die just to try and prove their point, eh?

[@gregp103]

Did she barely pass because when she was QB her team had an excellent running game?

[@davidcyr5327]

@@asg7448 simp

[@Cyanide300]

I don't really care who pulls me out of a burning building, but in my 35 years of life I'm not sure I've ever met a single woman who could put on 50lbs of firefighting gear, climb a ladder, lift 200lbs of floppy unconscious man off the floor and onto her shoulder, and carry him back down a ladder. But if she exists, then I have no problem with her being a firefighter. They should just have to meet the same standards as men to do the same job. I got nothing against women, but I don't care to die for "diversity".

[@neilltavernier4586]

Now, we're getting diversity and inclusion officers. I'm sure that will go over real well on the battlefield.

[@ACTHdan]

Good thing it’s not 1700.

[@Primenumber19]

Certainly helped letting black people fight. And just like now a bunch of guys were bitching about morale and political correctness then. Oops.

[@JackalBlack]

@@Primenumber19 Except women are not men of a different color. Oops.

[@Primenumber19]

@Vick Murray I’m sorry are you under the impression that combat is only holding a gun and running rough terrain? Or to join the seals or rangers? And are you insinuating that if women can’t qualify for seals or elite tier special forces they are somehow useless in combat or the armed forces? Women can’t be pilots? Women can’t operate complicated machinery? Women can’t drive transports? Women can’t fire artillery or call in the right coordinates for air strikes? As for why women haven’t participated in wars you are wrong. You are obviously no student of history so I recommend you go read a book. Vikings had shield maddens, Japanese women were samurai and trained for combat they just didn’t carry the two swords, the most famous battle commander in history is Joan d arc, the list goes on and currently the best trained fighting forces in the Middle East are all female units. But don’t let your lack of education stop a good story rooted in idiocy. Logically speaking I see no reason why anyone who wants to fight for their country can’t. The armed forces is a huge thing and there is room for everyone. And also let’s stop lying to ourselves that to be good at modern war you have to be huge and macho, the way things are going being a tiny nerd good at drone piloting is more important.

[@CenterThePendulum]

@@Primenumber19 The internet isn’t really supporting many of these historical claims, or at least the ones I looked at. Shield Maidens only existed in Folklore until they found….one Viking woman soldier. Joan of Arc is nowhere listed in the top ten as a military leader unless there’s an errant list bouncing around (maybe, I didn’t see one). There’s some info on the Middle Eastern female field units but no qualifying statements as “best trained.” Unless “trained” is the operating word. The Onna-Bugeisha part holds up, though citations are mainly to protect homes when the line held by men at war were breached (ie no choice but to fight), with some anecdotal exceptions. I can appreciate that contributions have changed and physical ability isn’t the determinant for many integral roles, this women should be permitted to serve. But preceding the modern era observations of female battle contributions made news because of rarity, bolstered by ‘aspirational’ analysis. As far as the central debate surrounding elite special forces, it’s true women aren’t capable of qualifying until it’s proven they can. All it takes, is a passing grade without lowered expectations. Until we have that, moot.

[@suiko2fan2]

As of July 2020, One woman tried out the navy seal program, and she quit halfway through. Not surprising with a 99% drop out rate.

[@zbrownbb]

Cindy Evans if you feel attacked by anything he said or what is said in the video then you’re delusional or just don’t understand what he is saying.

[@evilcam]

@Cindy Evans The OP EXPLICITLY SAID "Not surprising with a 99% drop out rate." You know what that means, right? Because your reply, reiterating what the OP said suggests you should...but THAT you just reiterated what he said, suggests you don't understand it at all.

[@zbrownbb]

Free Thinker i wouldn’t think you got your feelings hurt if you didn’t say “geez” like you were whining about it.

[@evilcam]

@Free Thinker Oh, so you're just a moron who always doubles down, regardless of whether you were proven wrong or not? I see. Well, carry on then.

[@bubbagumpshrimpco.4854]

*85% dropout rate

[@TM-fy5ym]

The odds of you completing SEAL training are not favorable: 1 in 4. Each year, about 1,000 recruits make it to SEAL training. About 250 complete their training and join approximately 2,000 more active SEALs, who work among nine active duty teams. Some SEAL candidates choose to drop out of the program, and some are forced out. Candidates who fail to complete training are reclassified to other jobs in the Navy. Lowering the standards should be an insult to anyone that wants to truly accomplish such a calling.

[@brandona4618]

Right dont be a jesse ventura

[@omegaskittles1551]

They're not lowering it so...

[@jrc0004]

@Justin credible Stop talking out of your ass if you don't know facts. He deployed with ST 5 to Iraq.

[@ffryan]

The failure statistics themselves pretty much eliminate every excuse to not allow women to have a shot at BUDS. Hold them to the same standard and see how they do. Or are people afraid that some of these women will actually make it?

[@Animal_mother_actual]

@@jrc0004 yes and he ran instead of going out out in patrols and multiple ops. Source- his Troop LPO and Chief. Fuck that guy

[@donaldmartin4980]

If a woman can meet the standards…and has the desire . When she shows up, I will be cheering her on.

[@billcipher3946]

Sorry women well never be Navy Seals, never will.

[@alenaadamkova7617]

Its like the Casino making an advertisement......how people are winning money making it easy to win... But Casinos emlpoyees are told to make sure that 99 percent of the time Casino wins. so if people are winning due to their intelligence of card game and strategies, they ban the wiiners from the Casino. Its a scam.

[@gregogresky4286]

You're 6'4", 240-pound Marine, and you're injured, and you need a Marine next to you to carry you back to safety, and the Marine next to you is a 5'4" woman who weighs 115 pounds. It's relevant."

[@LtRiot]

Gregory Kalinousky I spent every ruck literally carrying the girl behind me and she still fell out every time, whereas if I fell out for any reason I had to talk to the Captain. This shit is lunacy and one of the reasons I got out. It’s a fuckin joke

[@sageagbonkhese4091]

The average Marine is not 6'4 240lbs. Watching too many movies or playing too many games. But even a guy 5'9 175 is going to be hard to drag for a 5'4 130 woman who is fatigued from battle.

[@ProudFilthyCasual]

Okay but hypothetically the type of women that would be in this situation probably aren’t average or 5’4” and 115 lbs. It’s not like they all come in one size or that every Marine is that size.

[@thereelaccountant9246]

@@sageagbonkhese4091 do you understand how much heavier you are with full uniform and gear? Exactly.

[@brentsaylor1725]

A strong grown man isn't going to move a guy that big alone. Not a chance.

[@SoccerVJ2011]

The USMC $36 Million dollar study on Female Infantry: Within the research at the Infantry Training Battalion, females undergoing that entry-level training were injured at more than SIX-times the rate of their male counterparts 27% of female injuries were attributed to the task of movement under load, compared to 13% for their male counterparts, carrying a similar load. During the GCEITF assessment, musculoskeletal injury rates were 40.5% for females, compared to 18.8% for males All-male 0311 (rifleman) infantry squads had better accuracy compared to gender-integrated squads. There was a notable difference between genders for every individual weapons system (i.e. M4, M27, and M203) within the 0311 squads, except for the probability of hit & near miss with the M2. Male provisional infantry (those with no formal Infantry school training) had higher hit percentages after movement to contact than the 0311 (school trained) females: M4: 44% vs 28%, M27: 38% vs 25%, M16A4w/M203: 26% vs 15%. Accuracy diminishes with fatigue. All-male infantry crew-served weapons teams engaged targets quicker and registered more hits on target as compared to gender-integrated infantry crew-served weapons teams, with the exception of M2 accuracy. All-male squads, teams and crews and gender-integrated squads, teams, and crews had a noticeable difference in their performance of the basic combat tasks of negotiating obstacles and evacuating casualties. For example, when negotiating the wall obstacle, male Marines threw their packs to the top of the wall, whereas female Marines required regular assistance in getting their packs to the top. During casualty evacuation assessments, there were notable differences in execution times between all-male and gender-integrated groups, except in the case where teams conducted a casualty evacuation as a one-Marine fireman's carry of another (in which case it was most often a male Marine who "evacuated" the casualty). All-male squads, regardless of infantry MOS, were faster than the gender-integrated squads in each tactical movement. The differences were more pronounced in infantry crew-served weapons (such as Machine Guns) specialties that carried the assault load plus the additional weight of crew-served weapons and ammunition.

[@jibarjibar5741]

How dare you...

[@Baghuul]

We need to change the playing field to even out the results. That is the only answer to this issue. The training must be changed!

[@weswilliams4995]

it's almost as if there are fundamental differences between men and women. who knew?

[@andrewofaiur]

Shut up you sexist pig

[@kingjamestres]

Men have denser bones and denser muscles there didn’t need to spend 36 million. Fucking stupid besides it should be open if they want to let em anyone who can make it out is a certified badass.

[@davidgraney3413]

I love how in this day and age stating facts can get you potentially labeled things like sexist.

[@davidgraney3413]

@Kill Team Charlie bigot is the one I hear constantly and constantly used incorrectly

[@ambassadoroftruth99]

David Graney - Bigot!! I couldn’t resist.

[@DippyCS1.6]

And voting for an orange man makes you racist.

[@daveg4236]

MrIdoitforFun exactly

[@gamercatsz5441]

It is a FACT that women CAN get trough special forces training. You are ignorant, I litterally saw it first handed that a woman could handle the tests where a lot of elite strenght and conditioning men failed. The woman was 1 of the 6 people that finished the test. You are somewhat playing victim here like people labeled your "facts" sexist.

[@bujkaizack]

Equal opportunity demands equal efficiency. I would absolutely love to see a woman that rises to this inhumane standard! And I’d be absolutely horrified to meet her

[@trequor]

It could never happen... unless drugs were involved

[@TheSanityMachine33]

Simp.

[@ghanaboyz]

@@trequoras for SF worldwide, obviously a reality check fail on your part. I guess you have not bothered to actually check? Public sources would be enough.

[@billcipher3946]

@@ghanaboyz never gonna happen

[@animatedant]

​@@ghanaboyz It will never happen. It is and always will be very much impossible. Pls stop.

[@deckacards]

Imagine standards being lowered just so you can get into a program, also imagine being proud in that situation.

[@scenopiachannel]

That's women for you. Every day.

[@zraybroske2416]

That’s affirmative action. Congrats on doing less and getting more.

[@deckacards]

@@zraybroske2416 Ahh affirmative racism. Remember when you could look at a doctor of any color and be confident they were held up to the same standards?

[@MrStolboy]

that is future america for you

[@oST0LENo]

Well that’s blacks/minorities and college degrees. It also applies to the work force like cops, firefighters and everything else. It doesn’t matter if you are white and more qualified. Same thing is happening in the military with the PC and all inclusive movement.

[@susie7336]

Whenever this is the topic, it’s always a GI Jane image. Always. The idea of lowering standards for inclusivity is innately prejudice. You can’t have it both ways. Men and women are not equal, nor will we ever be. There’s so much beauty in that; it’s outrageous there’s such an offensive and twisted perspective instead of realizing the truth in our nature.

[@NaniiRey]

Christian Lopez fuck being unequal IF A WOMAN CANT DO IT SHE CANT FUCKING DO IT

[@bobtheyob]

@Christian Lopez I wouldn't say basic human biology is unjust.

[@terrencetysor9956]

Just leave it as is and open to who ever is qualified. Just like some try and fail. Let whoever do the same. Got me remembering full metal jacket and the girl sniper.

[@perryhowell9107]

@Christian Lopez It's an equitable inequality. It's not at all that they're less. Just different. It doesn't help anyone to enable the small group of men and women insisting at everyone else's expense that it's otherwise.

[@tSp289]

@@NaniiRey And if a woman CAN fucking do it (there will be one or two who can), then lowering the standards just means no one will believe she was up to it and will blame her for the standards having been lowered. Let her try, but don't change the standards at all. She's pass or she'll fail.

[@grandmaoil2079]

14yr old BOYS destroyed the Australian Womens Olympic soccer team 4-0..... We are equal in value, but nowhere near the same in capability.

[@jammadan]

What I reads was 15 year old boys, and the score was 7-0

[@Curbstompextraordinaire]

How many women have gone through buds? “0” *triggered

[@howmuchbeforechamp]

What is buds?

[@texascorby]

@@howmuchbeforechamp kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIbSeGhvbLGBq8U

[@1969plato]

Exactly. And it's instrumental to also point out the VAST majority of men can't complete BUDS either.

[@KrisH-bt5cm]

If you listened further into the interview you would have also heard that no woman had actually been allowed to try yet. * just saying

[@howmuchbeforechamp]

@@KrisH-bt5cm and also there is a difference between vast majority failling and everyone failing

[@gutz1981]

Feminism = "We are so equal to men, that we need the standards of entry on highly difficult career choices to be lowered because we can't be expected to meet the male standard."

[@Michael-xn6tv]

Thats exactly what they say all the time

[@duaneacarterii]

Lmao

[@zacharyconfer3830]

Only the lowering of standards is only being suggested by dumbasses in these comments who didn't bother to listen to the conversation

[@lottiegallagher2774]

Who the fuck said anything about lowering standards u fat fuck

[@niks983]

This

[@naimamusique]

Zero men went through giving birth. We are meant for different physical performances.

[@jaironunez7196]

Well... it is not like men can apply for that job... 😂😂😂

[@naimamusique]

@vinod siba I have 3 kids, a men that loves me and I run businesses.I have it all without the resentment you seem to have.

[@naimamusique]

@vinod siba Try to heal your anger problem.

[@naimamusique]

@vinod siba Not interested. Anyone who says to me stfu is out of my list. That is my last reply.

[@Naked4Jesus]

Not fair! They should lower the standards for "giving birth" so men can do it too! Maybe if I change some dirty diapers it should count as giving birth?

[@jcerrano98]

Lowering standards for an elite team is kinda make them lose what made them elite in the first place.

[@ironmanandspidyroc]

as mike Tyson once said, everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face.

[@JOHNNY-zx1lc]

How is that relevant to this podcast?

[@atomicalien4]

@@JOHNNY-zx1lc terrorists prefer punching over shooting you u never knew? Jk idk ppl just love this quote and I swear I've seen It in every comment section like this where it dosent even make sence but pre great quote tho

[@ironmanandspidyroc]

@@JOHNNY-zx1lc and everyone else on this comment you're thinking to literal, think outside the box for once, its a metaphor, meaning you all want to become something (navy seal) until its crunch time and you have to put in the work, then its wooo wait I have to put effort into this?

[@JOHNNY-zx1lc]

@@atomicalien4 I know lol, they think they're being whitty and original but in reality it's just some shit they regurgitated from a meme lol.

[@JOHNNY-zx1lc]

reid even as a metaphor it makes no sense to their conversation lol. Stop regurgitating memes you've seen and be original.

[@flynnmorrow6945]

As a woman (who is a stay at home mom, so I probably don't "count" because I'm giving in to the patriarchy), being a Navy SEAL is probably the last thing I would want and the last thing that I would do well at.

[@trequor]

Im a working dad and i wouldnt want that job. It's a job that only a tiny minority of insane men can fill.

[@m-moneymgt8055]

You do count. You are raising the next generation, not giving into the patriarchy. Fck what the woke crowd thinks, I admire your choice and it holds a precious responsibility

[@rutherford7820]

I am a girl that wants to be a navy seal so I'm a bit confused about Trevors logic behind saying that women just don't want the job. Has he done a survey or..?

[@jammadan]

Raising thew next gen is a very important job

[@jammadan]

@@rutherford7820 Women in the military knows the score, you'll change your mind once you're in that environment

[@seekthao]

Don’t lower the standards for women. This job can cost you your life or you can cost someone else’s life. It’s not a bucket list item you check off. It should be taken seriously and the political agendas need to be left out.

[@bradharrison7572]

Being in the fire department in Sydney Australia, a mate of mine had a female firefighter standby at his station. Being near 60 he use to drive the pumper pretty often. He’d done the hard yards. Anyway, they get called to a building alight with persons reported. The driver operates the pump and as he’s getting it ready, the female firefighter just stood there. He said,”hurry up and get your air set on, there’s people reported”. She turned to him and said, “I’ve got three kids at home I can’t go in there”. He asked if she could operate the pump and when she said she could, he got his air set on and went inside. When I told some senior officers this, they asked if “he had reported it”. I just laughed. True story.

[@greyelkwilliams]

Thats why american fire fighters dont have two different sets of standards. One set of requirements period. Every woman I have served with would never do this. Looks like you aussies need to re evaluate your standards. Could be why you are short handed for wild fires.

[@hanoitripper1809]

Had the gas pipes changed today at my house. 7 am outside my window 2 guys digging not talking. All i heard was loud gasbagging on the ohone about the weekend. Some chick next to my window blabbing away ffs, woke me up, i just lost my job yestersy went outside and said can u keep the noise down, the bitch glared at me i siad obviously youre not working but taking the same cash as these blokes. The boys laughed as wpshe walked away. Oz is turning into fkin dump.

[@nybirdman]

Deerjaw Williams not everywhere in America unfortunately. Look up the story of the FDNY chick. She went out early with a back injury during training or something. My fire buddies were all complaining about it.

[@mito._]

She should be reported. If she can't do the damn job, then get someone else who can.

[@darkhorse5232]

Well, that's what happens to every nation where Liberal politics thrive. It's a self defeating mindset and world view. Just look at American cities with extremely so-called "Progressive" views. They are falling apart under the weight if poverty and inflation and homelessness.

[@Wowreally42]

WOMEN AND MEN ARE NOT THE SAME. Thank God. Everyone trying to make them the same.. please stop.

[@devote]

No but we're both human beings. There is no one type of man or one type of women.

[@devote]

@Marcus W that's not true either. Even those involved all have their strengths and weaknesses.

[@gromhellscream4487]

@Pat McCann Damn bro you killed him.Have mercy.

[@JP-zh6qt]

@Pat McCann hahaha

[@jamesjordan139]

The radical feminism bs and identity politics is the core of weakness and why Russia and China are beating out USA in most academia . It’s basically the ‘jack of all trades master if none ‘ syndrome taken to the utmost level when trying to make everyone equal as opposed to developing a persons unique strengths and talents .

[@DP-fq7iy]

The real sexism is of low expectations. I refused to quit until I met the male standards when I was in MTI.

[@tonyskybravo3269]

Wow so brave

[@nickfantini1555]

Lol

[@miselzorg2081]

Thank god u quit, men don't need you, they can protect country on their own.

[@luxeayt6694]

@@miselzorg2081 Bad opinion

[@dcastillo1503]

@@miselzorg2081 "I refused to quit", moron.

[@christianlandgrave5796]

"Why don't they want that job?" reminds me of a quote from Jordan Peterson wondering why it is that there are men crazy enough to want jobs like that.

[@gablo1089]

@Ammon Herrera Sources?

[@kickthecompany1211]

@Ammon Herrera LOL Psychology is anything BUT the softest or farcical science out there XD. Clinical psychologists (Jordan Peterson is one of them) help couples that are about to divorce, drug addicts, and people who wrecked their lives to heal their trauma and advance in life. Just hearing the stuff they help people with (e.g. sexual assault, harrassement, childhood abuse etc.) would tramautize a normal human being. Jordan is also not "pampered" in any way, he had a rough upbringing as a kid and was physically small through school. I believe I remember him saying he was bullied for this. You clearly do not know the facts about science or people unlike Jordan Peterson who does XD

[@trequor]

The higher male variability hypothesis would explain this

[@gagetaylor192]

@@kickthecompany1211 Hasn't Jordan Peterson been widely debunked as somebody who doesn't really know what he's talking about?

[@christhepatriot4621]

“Don’t change the program just to diversify the lineup”! Truth!

[@hamzaelazami2825]

Will smith is not gonna like this

[@Warrior1Spartan]

"There's this thing where they want to show that they're not sexist." "And the people who want to prove it are the ones who aren't in the ring." So, in other words, politicians are being keyboard warriors about it.

[@louie5581]

Always have been

[@verychristianboi3584]

Enticing the masses with hollow convictions is how they keep being politicians to begin with so

[@ghanaboyz]

If you care to look around some in SF forces world wide, the answer kind of is no. It is not an issue, standards are NOT lowered, and it is not a political thing at all. Are very vvey few woman qualified? yeah, but what an asset they are.

[@grandmaoil2079]

@@ghanaboyz yea, a physically weaker, more brittle, more emotional operator.... what an asset....smh.

[@Anonymous18817]

Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. What advice would you give for women that want to be SEALs? If you had to go to BUD/S again, how would you prepare differently? What books or workout programs would you recommend? Most female SEAL candidates struggle with carrying the boats and logs, doing pull ups, having grip strength and completing the “Dirty Name” on the obstacle course. Also, a lot of female SEAL candidates break their legs or develop stress fractures.

[@a1919akelbo]

Doesn't matter what he thinks, only thing that matters is what the enemy thinks, and they'll be happy we're sending them women.

[@jonesreviews4613]

Being special forces is an insane job for a person mentally. I don't understand how anyone handles killing people the way they have to

[@ayy4262]

Women would destroy the dynamics of the seal teams. Men act different around women.. PERIOD.

[@kanervatie]

Periods?

[@yvonnehollis6199]

Never change standards

[@3dheadcreeps87]

Oh please. That’s retarded. Once we accept that women are different, we can place them in specific positions in the military. Your way of thinking is basically “everyone has to do the same thing”. That’s so dumb considering what else women can do. They don’t necessarily have to do the same thing, they can help in other ways 🙄

[@armstrongaddy1155]

@@3dheadcreeps87 You never been in the military

[@3dheadcreeps87]

armstrong addy - okay... so what? I can still criticize cooking even though I’m not a chef in the same way that I can critique the weird admiration America has for ANY veteran. Please....

[@armstrongaddy1155]

@@3dheadcreeps87 Am getting a feeling you do not like the military

[@KakashiHatake-sv1vb]

@@3dheadcreeps87 war =/= cooking

[@trivialfreedom5374]

There’s a dude who talks to the pavement in my town, let’s drop the standards so he can join.

[@tracieyudichak2315]

Yeah, sure your funny

[@spaceninjasteve3356]

tracie yudichak his comment made me laugh

[@tracieyudichak2315]

@@spaceninjasteve3356 that's good

[@LambeauLeeeper]

Lmao.

[@energeez]

keep your ear to the ground

[@yesman3316]

I would totally support female navy SEALS if they went through exactly the same selection and training process as male ones.

[@bighands69]

The moment the political activists can get women to go into the service is the moment they will lower the standards.

[@Wonmanbanned]

Me too, but it’s like saying I’d support a baboon joining if they don’t lower the standards. The reality is that women can’t pass. It’s elite level and women cannot get anywhere close to men physically so there is as much chance as a woman passing as an ape. There was an international women’s soccer team complaining about equal pay and then they played an under 16 league boys side and got absolutely hammered. I’d be all for a woman playing football, rugby, cricket or whatever team sport they want alongside men, but they have to compete on the same rules with no amendments made to accommodate them. For the same reason we don’t see women playing in NFL American football or international cricket or even league soccer is the same reason they won’t get into the elite military units. They present way too much risk.

[@JustSendMeLocationPlease]

Many tried. I think 26 of the best female marines tried to do it and they just.. couldn’t. Most men can’t. Guys who are marines and trained their whole life to be a SEAL.. they fail. Lowering the standards just makes it more dangerous for the woman.

[@PlumpHotdog]

It'll never happen unless the standards are completely lowered. Biology is real, we are very different physically. This is not a knock on women, unfortunately however, we now live in a time where feelings are paid more attention to than facts.

[@pissgobbler9406]

​@@Wonmanbannednah I'm just different and I'm gonna be able to pass the test

[@engineco.1494]

I can't speak for the military but we have this problem in the fire service, standards are either lowered or instructors and testing facilitators are turning a blind eye to let them through and turning down more capable and qualified males to fill their numerical quotas.

[@leox7963]

"People that wanna prove it are the ones who aren't in the ring"

[@americanosbadassius9292]

Remember that woman that made it through Army infantry training and went AWOL? ... The female officer that made it through Ranger school - she's still dope. The female that made it through the Green Berets training had an accidental discharge on the civilian side of things - still too early to tell with that one - I say we help her tighten up her shot group and give her another chance. I don't suppose too many people know this, but there were four women that were trained as Delta Force operators in the 80's, but the discrimination coming from the men was so high that it was a failed program.

[@chiefreficul9774]

u might want to look into the one about the rangers.

[@americanosbadassius9292]

@@chiefreficul9774 Oh no, I hope it's not bad news, but if it is, then that might be good news to further establish, on whether women are a good investment for special operations. They're doing a soft urge on the entire military right now anyway, so it might not matter - it all seems to be going the way of the clowns. Communities should start to look seriously at providing their own security from enemies both foreign and domestic.

[@chiefreficul9774]

@@americanosbadassius9292 they received help from the males and were allowed to start over as many times as they needed to in order to pass. the whole thing was a publicity stunt for some politicians and virtue signaling for the military. even after they "past", they will not be used in any actual combat. it was decided.

[@chiefreficul9774]

@@americanosbadassius9292 what u said about the military being soft now and it not mattering, i completely agree with.

[@jammadan]

All of them went tru a modified watered down course, lowering standards increases casualties

[@dizbang3073]

which airline would you fly - one that boasts of the "best, most experienced group of pilots" or one that boasts of "the most diverse group of pilots?"

[@mos619]

The only way a woman is making it through BUDS is if she used to be a dude

[@dannytonnessen6896]

*NO! YOU'RE WRONG!* SHE COULD HAVE BEEN USED >BY< THE TRAINER AT BUDS TO GET THROUGH! LoL

[@dll7658]

@Meister Incognito 😂

[@AmericanWithTheTruth]

Not even then. You would have to have elite male genetics to make it through. The top 1% of all male athletes in the world. A typical trans athlete has subpar testosterone and hgh due to hormone regulations and estrogen dosing. Estrogen absolutely destroys muscle density and strength.

[@monicatran9042]

As a female muay thai fighter for 4 years I agree, men just have a higher muscle percentage then females do and it's just a fact. Men can come in and train for the first time and out power me in a few months. But goddamn have I learned a lot of different strategies to work around power differences. There are different things females can do in order to strive for greatness, we don't need to be equal in every thing because we're not. The Title IX law just passed in 1972 to allow women to train and play sports in school unlike men who have been doing it for decades before. So women and sports is still relatively new but every year that skill ceiling raises for women because we're figuring out different things that work for us and our body types. We're not equal, we don't have the same body types as men and that's just a fact. Find your own way, don't try to meet their skill ceiling. Push your own.

[@moparu]

well said Monica! I love you🤗

[@user-qr2tf8vl4k]

We don’t churn out enough surgeons as is. Just easy general practice shit

[@skyh2394]

If only was about higher muscle percentage...

[@bonganipeter9433]

He's truthful you can tell. He answers immediately

[@jaychi9884]

Remember back in the day when SEALs just did their jobs and didn't want to be seen or heard....

[@ahmadillo4959]

What is it with ex-special forces and them writing autobiographies recently?

[@legbiter1462]

Ahmadillo After the Bin Laden raid the teams were thrust into the spotlight. The name is now a household one and some guys want to capitalize on it. I know lots of teams guys and they all have varying opinions on it. Some don’t care what a guy does when he leaves and some do. Same goes for the other services but the teams especially.

[@Yor_gamma_ix_bae]

cowboy navy ads cuz americas youth won’t make it into non com nat guard.

[@jaychi9884]

@Jos Pickering some need, mostly those that want need

[@hi-q2261]

Women in the Navy Seals I'm just thinking if they're in a firefight and someone shouts at the her I need mag and she turns around and says "don't yell at me" 😆

[@1madinjun]

During a "driver down drag" scenario I saw a female soldier unable to drag or even get the male out of the Humvee so they put a second one with her. BOTH couldn't complete the exercise. Average 185lb soldier plus IBA, magazines, helmet etc is about a 210lb soldier plus they're dead weight so..... AINT HAPPENING!!!!

[@allieryan1348]

Southie my mom could do that after two years of weight training. Is the strength training in the military terrible?

[@bradwurst8141]

@@allieryan1348 two years of training vs. men who likely could pull this task off from the rip. This is simple math, Allie. Two years of pumped resources so your mom can feel like part of the gang, good for her

[@IanGeda]

Especially if they we’re getting shot at. Sometimes you won’t always have help and she can’t just Icant pull him

[@bobbah676]

The Navy Seals is like the rich jocks at the school, not the best. But their mom and pop makes sure they got the newest and best.

[@jammadan]

85%+ drop out rate......they are a rare breed

[@justinnguyen2605]

There was 1 female Green Beret. And a female SWCC operator. The GB was kicked out after NDing her personal handgun in her house like a few weeks after getting to the unit. I think the SWCC operator is still in. There's also a female Ranger captain that's a beast

[@brendenkiper4707]

Joe “women are gonna feel like your a sexist” Rogan

[@SzczypekPlay]

If you wanna have an opinion, you have to risk offending someone.

[@matthewmbober4426]

You're

[@doomfathertm8771]

If any women ever makes it through you know thats gonna be the kind of women where you cant really tell if its a women, like the most masculine women ever!

[@claydud271]

Being a infantrymen in Australia when they forced the females into inf that’s when I pulled the pin.

[@niks983]

U pulled the pin but where did you throw the grenade?

[@melclarke64]

its hard being gay

[@AstoundingAmelia]

Mate I used to be a member of the cadets and the women were not to be messed with, they could break your back if you even blinked, remember that raw strength isn't everything so don't take it as such

[@niks983]

@@AstoundingAmelia hahahaha dude there is no substitute for raw strength. I did the MMA thing for 5 years when I was in my 20's. I trained at ATT in Colorado and there were bad ass chicks, but for instance when I was a yellow belt I could dominate brown belt women. Now there's a crazy difference between a yellow and brown belt when it comes to skill level. But the girls can't finish a kamora or triangle if I can power out or stack it up. I'm 36 years old now and have a beer gut yet I guarantee I can still fuck up a 20 something "badass chick". One clean punch or a couple solid leg kicks and it's over. It's just plain old biology women are built different, whether it be skelatol structure or the massive advantage of testosterone.

[@tracieyudichak2315]

Congratulations pussy!

[@Nick-vg1bn]

who else got a joe rogan ad of him talkin about grills at the beginning of this?😂

[@NeoN-PeoN]

I was Navy. Our physical requirements are not all that tough for a regular squid. Even still, women had it even easier. Women had to do something like 8 pushups to pass.......

[@HooyahPeacock]

If you're a fat nuke standards are cut in half lol

[@FoxLocked]

As a female myself, I say if a woman can pass the training, then let her in. But I do agree with what most people are saying, don't lower the standards just because she's a woman, or even for a man that has a physical illness or such. This is war we're talking about, a literal life or death situation. If you can't make the training, regardless of who you are, then you shouldn't be there.

[@portee9113]

I would honestly love to see all female units be a thing. Like the sisters in warhammer 40k. Their missions would reflect their abilites, and you wouldn't have to worry about the huge disparities in physical ability.

[@StewartLucrative]

😂🤣 I don't really think the military takes Warhammer 40K into consideration when deciding who will do what.

[@trequor]

It's a better idea just for the hormones. You dont want females in male units because of how they affect the brain chemistry. You're introduce sexual competitiveness and extra risk-taking behaviour into the males.

[@remiremsar5946]

@@trequor then tell the men to behave, ok? They're soldiers for God's sake

[@trequor]

@@remiremsar5946 *They're* It doesn't matter what you tell them. These are deeply embedded instincts, older than humanity itself. They will negatively impact rational decision making due to simple nature of sexuality.

[@remiremsar5946]

@@trequor what you are telling me is that gay people can't fuction in the army

[@mathematics5573]

I have heard seal budds and sas selection described. Seal selection buddy sounds very hard. But I think sas selection actually sounds harder. Psychologically harder!

[@johnbull1568]

My cousin served with the Royal Marines, which no woman has ever qualified for. He then served with the SBS (the naval equivalent of the SAS), which most Royal Marines couldn't qualify for. The only way a woman ever qualifies for a serious special forces unit is if they drastically lower the requirements, and then they wouldn't be serious or special which defeats the entire purpose.

[@bradbutcher3984]

I met some seals at my brother's retirement ceremony and party from the Corps in 2017. My brothers old master sgt. got shit faced and one went to help him to his condo on the beach at the base. He showed back up an hour later but it should have been a 10 minute walk. He had carried him on his back but the MS was to drunk to tell him where he was staying. He jogged with him on his back 4 miles down the beach. Then had to come back with him because he passed out and couldn't tell him where he was staying. I have utmost respect for them.

[@nikitakucherov5028]

If I were in buds I would immediately ring that bell that says Im out. Salvation Army would be recruiting me every Christmas...

[@DRus-mo6cz]

a woman would get extra shit for being a woman. just like a guy with glasses would get extra for wearing glasses. a very pale guy for being pale and so on. the training is supposed to try to break you, the instructors are trying to call out every little thing they can to make you choke up or stumble. mental strength is a huge part of this whole thing

[@BrandonMartinez-be3tw]

Why was this recommended to me after the oscars

[@SamScicluna]

I went to Uni with a friend who now plays on the Australian Woman’s Basketball team. She’s 6’5 a professional ball player, I’m 6ft never even played at the American collegiate level. We played 1 v 1 after a shootaround at the basketball courts once, I beat her 11 - 4. Afterwards Lebron James tried to recruit me to come play for the lakers, then I realised he was being a cunt because he was laughing at how gullible I was, thinking that beating a pro women’s player was some kind of accomplishment

[@drake128]

Can you design a driving test around my inability to be bothered learning?

[@coffinsmoke1385]

When i was in the navy the women had it way easier than we did.

[@alexnorth3393]

Nice anecdote and almost certainly false.

[@royalknightcommander1097]

@@alexnorth3393 They literally do though? Less of a physical standard for them.

[@LtRiot]

Facts

[@chocolate4135]

Women are not equal to men, we are not the same as a man, end of story

[@cameronspence4977]

Yeah exactly. Or there would only be 1 gender

[@ametrineambrosia4929]

So men are superior to us?!

[@pastordoogie8438]

4:38 says it all: “The people who want to prove it (that B.U.D.S. is not sexist) are not in the ring.”

[@sly11benal7]

Rain.....if it raining we ain't training.

[@matthewwolff3729]

Men aren't sexist. Nature is!

[@DH-rq7gw]

Imagine being in the seals ready to deploy for a mission and you learn the fill in member for your team is a 5’7 white chick....

[@ii2654]

LOL ikr. Talk about a liability

[@johnhunter7386]

Really? It would matter what race she is?

[@tracieyudichak2315]

And.... Keep going. I want to hear how horrible you think it is

[@HooyahPeacock]

Fun fact: everyone who says this branch is better than this branch most likely never served.

[@Erin-bd6jg]

I was Army infantry. I can tell you with certainty that each branch has advantages over the other. As for which is best.... best how, in what way? It's just dick-measuring.

[@alexscott7943]

Absolute BS. We literally all make fun of each-other across the board.

[@KodyEFT]

Yep, serving navy and I can say hands down, the best is clearly the Air Force.

[@hybridtech8058]

@@KodyEFT Benefit wise AF yes

[@HooyahPeacock]

@@KodyEFT I mean they do get the nice shit lol

[@philk9717]

Gazelle, I am sick of this standard of perfection that is demanded of us...Lion, I agree.

[@marcwanagas1234]

Far more impressed with Trevor than Joe in this clip

[@iamticklebot]

I’m sure all of my exes could make it through. They all meaner than hell.

[@theonewiththename5867]

Nah just bitches

[@plumlogan]

"... which, who knows?" We know We all know

[@Malibu7Seven]

1 reason women cannot be in the SEALS: We get periods. That was straight from a SEAL I met who explained besides the inconvenience of it, you could be tracked easily. Just what I was told.

[@cleeks5549]

Because the guns would get slippery?

[@miekaash6831]

Do enemy’s train sharks to track people? Lol unless you’re leaving a trail of blood in the water... how are they tracking you based on your period?

[@Malibu7Seven]

@@miekaash6831 SEALS are in the water A LOT, also dogs can more easily track on land. Again, this came directly from a SEAL's mouth who I met on Guam back in 2011. (& it was NSWC on his business card he slipped me... Naval special warfare command.) He turned out to be an asshole!

[@Charlemagnetheman]

@@Malibu7Seven Also because the other seals want safety. Sorry, if I’m caught in a fire in my house I want the 6 ft 4 ex linebacker to save me over the small female who barely passed training

[@HybridSpektar]

Makes sense in all honesty.

[@TedBackus]

the issue in my eyes, is that military has lowered its difficulty for females to pass in the past, if they do that for BUDS, they might as well lower it for others too. maybe a BUDS for fat guys, or a BUDS for guys who identify as 13 year old girls? its silliness. if a woman can do it right along with the men, she 110% deserves to be there & she deserves as much respect as the first guy to do it. if she requires anything different , she will always carry that 'easy mode' badge of shame. handing out runner up trophy's, & good try trophies, only serves to weaken the individual who receives it, they might like it at the time, but as they grow, they will regret it. you reward excellence, not adequacy

[@bighands69]

There are no women that can do the training and be operational it is that simple.

[@MrWhatYT]

I read an article once about a former SAS soldier who went around doing selection for some of the worlds other special forces. He said the Navy Seal was one of the easiest

[@Pirosbor]

Super.......Army..........Soldiers! Lol

[@MrWhatYT]

No, Special Air Service. He wrote a book on training with with other special forces, and went through the selection process.

[@cronezone787]

Not many woman can carry the extra weight of their gear, let alone possibly having to throw somebody over their shoulder.

[@coltondavis7022]

If a woman can pass then let her in , just don’t change it to make it easier for her.

[@michaelharder9737]

Exactly, this is about the ability to do a job. If she can do the job, we let her do the job.

[@terryfeynman]

@@michaelharder9737 yea but this is the problem at the moment we are not doing that, as he admitted himself, none was allowed to try. Why is that ? Well if we do allow them in and they cannot make it would be a huge problem for those that claim that women can do everything a man can do. If they do make it it would be a huge problem for those that claim the opposite. So both sides are kinda scared to try. But if we lower the standards both sides could sell that to their camp, one side could say say see they make it, the other side can say see they needed to lower the standards. Both sides are happy. So I really fear this is what is going to happen. Both sides do not want to risk to piss of their camp if they can guarantee a "victory"

[@MSEEViking]

The fitness standard for females are much lower today in the armed forces than a man.

[@Easyincal]

Bullshit! This isn’t an experiment. Same reason women don’t fight men in the MMA...

[@coltondavis7022]

Scott L I say let women fight men in mma too if they want to. I just don’t want to hear complaining when 99% of women vs men matches end with the dude winning.

[@markrichardson2512]

I now understand what joe means when he said "not even men can do everything men can do". I'm a marine myself, and honestly there's no way I'd make it through something like buds. Boot camp is one thing, but being able to power through broken bones and shit... No thank you

[@bighands69]

BUD/S is a very specialized program that requires a certain type of physiology that other special operations units do not. Combat diving like being a fighter pilot requires a very special body type that not everybody has. And on top of that the training is as complex as a whole as the likes of Army Special Forces and Rangers. It makes it very unique.

[@remiremsar5946]

Playing videogames about Battlefields doesn't make you a marine.

[@markrichardson2512]

@@remiremsar5946 alright man

[@TheSanityMachine33]

@@remiremsar5946 go make sandwiches.

[@Thforklift126]

I think you're underestimating yourself.

[@stuckmannen3876]

The purpose of the army is not to be as diverse as possible, its to win a war...

[@nkristianschmidt]

Mmmno, it's to serve the State.

[@bonojennett]

But "diversity is STRENGTH!" haha

[@stuckmannen3876]

@@nkristianschmidt sure :) whatever u like

[@nkristianschmidt]

@@stuckmannen3876 very good, transfer all your money now.

[@LetsPlayKenny]

But why is the USA in a constant state of war? Cause they have to create new ones all the time

[@kate1674]

I’m a woman and I wholeheartedly think the standards should stay the same and if whoever person can do it than great- male/female. No coddling. So irritating. This is life and death stuff.

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

Problem is that they're eventually always lowered. Women are allowed in, yet none make it. That's "sexist", so what happens? They lower the standards. Look at the SAS for proof of that.

[@boastfulsquid2285]

Unfortunately so.

[@jgp1294]

As a millennial woman, and sister to a retired SEAL....10000% agree. The standard is the standard, whoever can qualify should be allowed in, but if you don’t tough shit.

[@nmarrs8539]

Agreed. You have to be able to do these things because it could be life or death out there. Your life and others are on the line. There’s nothing wrong if you’re not that quality that’s the point of the training. They need that quality and frankly there’s tons of men who can’t even reach that brass ring. Let alone look like at it.

[@beckyparkes7182]

I agree, but you have to remember that 80% of military roles are support, not actual combat. You don't need to be doing 20 mile ruck marches for a desk job analyzing air traffic. A consensus could be cutoff standards that fit the conditions of the job, with no extra coddling to forcibly 'diversify.' SEALs meet SEAL standards, infantry meets infantry standards, deskies meet deskie standards.

[@JayZumOwner]

"The people who want to prove it, aren't the ones in the ring" - on point, man 👌

[@bobproctor5562]

Imagine lower the standards to be an eye surgeon.

[@demonicinfusion]

Blind surgeons can now operate on eyes cause "muh discrimination". Fking stupid shit the West is going through.

[@maxphilps4253]

Or just a surgeon in general "oops sorry i just removed the wrong leg"

[@tano99999]

I'm sorry, but I just can't see your point

[@jonrad2001]

@@tano99999 is that Because you are a blind surgeon?

[@melclarke64]

Silly comments lol they don't lower standards for eye surgeons because they are equal.lol

[@sabrinafair35]

I am a woman, and no offense taken. He is absolutely right. I don’t want standards lowered for women.

[@PlanetLovingMom]

I read a memoir about a Navy SEAL going overseas before and during his military career. He explained with a lot of detail what happens during Hell Week... I thought to myself, "Ha, no thank you! Men can try. I'm staying home with the kids" 🤣

[@sharoncohen318]

And I think most women will agree. As you see here it's ALWAYS men complaining about how women want standards lowered when we never even see women asking for that.

[@sabrinafair35]

@@sharoncohen318 interesting!

[@timorhyridgway3003]

@@sharoncohen318 it's like white people looking for racism in situations where it isn't there

[@inzagee6216]

Yeah i agree! This is not a sport where you simply put females with males. This is life and death. If my husband is gonna go out there risking his life then there sure as hell be alongside the best of the best. This is not a game. Going to war! people actually dies! you don't lower the standards of training just to get more diversity. If a woman pass the test then sure let he through. But you don't lower the standards in order to make her pass the test. Theres alot of lives on the line here.

[@areyouthicc9947]

“Don’t pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a hard one.” ~ Bruce Lee

[@iliveinsideyourhouse3943]

Still the best quote I ever heard.

[@iliveinsideyourhouse3943]

@@KZbin_is_complete-total_shit Cool story bro

[@andrewodinson3726]

@@KZbin_is_complete-total_shit Sounds like you've spent your entire life researching the guy. Good work, bud.

[@andrewodinson3726]

@@KZbin_is_complete-total_shit lmao go back to r/iamverysmart and learn what an exaggeration is.

[@lordtachanka5512]

Are You Thicc? “Do not pray for easy lives, pray to be stronger men” - JFK

[@_SeaH0rse]

Imagine if politicians argued that casualties weren’t diverse enough.

[@D0W666]

Give it a few years

[@ivanichianus683]

That’s actually really funny. Nice one

[@D0W666]

@Insufficient Funds well that's obviously 100% bullshit.

[@ivanichianus683]

Insufficient Funds ...insufficient brain more like it

[@D0W666]

@Insufficient Funds you have a picture? Let me guess. You have a meme with a statistic on it, right?

[@northpappyflappy]

Imagine if the we lowered the standards to become a surgeon just to appease people that couldn't cut it otherwise.

[@bowlofsoup12]

We would have a lot more ER horror story tv shows lol.

[@robertsilva7158]

Well he said there not lowering the standards to let them go in just allowing them to sooo..

[@miketheyunggod2534]

northpappyflappy 😯

[@BandytaCzasu]

Those standards probably WERE lowered.

[@darthmalak190]

OP: is that not what affirmative action is?

[@SpiritualIconoclast]

When I went to BUD/S I didn’t prepare enough for the stress of running. I got shin splints in pre-BUD/S and pretty much had to just deal with it throughout BUD/S until my legs finally adapted around third phase. Many guys who got shin splints way later than me developed stress fractures and most of them didn’t make it. A couple years after I made it through training there was an opportunity for the guys in the teams to do a DEXA scan. The result showed that my bone density was in the 99th percentile meaning I was in the top 1% of men with high bone density which explains why my bones were able to withstand the stress of running with shin splints which puts additional stress on your legs. I have no doubt that my bone density prevented many injuries that I wasn’t even aware of that you can’t really prepare for. Sure a female runner is not going to get shin splints in BUD/S but her lower bone density, weaker immune system etc will likely prevent her from staying healthy. A woman who is a better runner and a swimmer than a man might look like a better candidate but no amount of specific training regimen is going to bring her body up to speed compared to a man. She’s going to need a lot of gear and even that’s not likely to work because taking gear causes damage to your body and you need to be a very healthy person to get through BUD/S.

[@earljohnson2676]

I joined the army when I was 35 and I told them I want to have the same standards of the 18 yr olds or it’s not really accomplishment for me . I did really well top 20 in the company. That’s also sad these kids today aren’t built like us older guys who grew up playing sports n being outdoors all day I had a great time as a kid miss those days

[@Anonymous18817]

Hi, I’m a woman in her 20s and I’m training to become a U.S. Navy SEAL. I’m a civilian and I want to go enlisted. What advice would you give for women that want to be SEALs? If you had to go to BUD/S again, how would you prepare differently? What books or workout programs would you recommend? Most female SEAL candidates struggle with carrying the boats and logs, doing pull ups, having grip strength and completing the “Dirty Name” on the obstacle course. Also, a lot of female SEAL candidates break their legs or develop stress fractures.

[@SpiritualIconoclast]

@@Anonymous18817 Women are not going to make it through BUD/S. Your body and mind get tested at the most primal level and we live in a world today that preaches that women and men are the same which is absolutely false. I’m not going to tell you not to do it but I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that first phase will break you psychologically and physically and not in the cliche way you hear all the time. I have seen plenty of elite female athletes who are good at one thing they specialize at but they’re below average at other physical capabilities compared to average men. If you have to find out for yourself go do it but if you fail there will be a price to pay.

[@kk-en8ns]

@@Anonymous18817don’t.

[@kylebarrettz]

This sounded like you were master-baiting to yourself 😂

[@jameslang7794]

I want to see Brock Lesner make a come back in the women's division.

[@TheSpacemannspiff]

And see him get punched in the gut ? Dude can't take any body hits anymore that's why he's wrasslin

[@goji059]

@@TheSpacemannspiff he was battling diverticulitis.....gastrointestinal disease.....2 surgeries to repair it.....

[@tristannolan85]

Cock Lesnar

[@tomwallhead6950]

If thats really your last name i envy you

[@glocklesnar713]

tristannolan85 Glock Lesnar

[@umbraemilitos]

No need to lower the standards. Whoever has the willingness and ability to pass the program should be allowed to complete it.

[@iLLWiLLTheMiCK]

yeah, thats pretty damn logical

[@historygeek7779]

But biology says no

[@iLLWiLLTheMiCK]

@@historygeek7779 says no to what? lol

[@dentonet2]

Right! If they need to lower the standards then it will just make the men weaker and then it will start to be considered rude to outperform the women. They only want this because they are so starved of genuine affection and respect from their fathers and/or husbands. Motherhood is seen as pathetic and as a low accomplishment, as if children would learn to grow up on thier own without any parental support, guidance, and nurturing and love. But people only think that because it makes sense, having seen the state raise thier kids 8 hours a day.

[@iLLWiLLTheMiCK]

@@dentonet2 you replying to comments where no mentioned they should lower the standard genuine affection? father/mothers motherhood, man, that some straw man argument bullshit

[@ItsTheMunz]

I swear everyone who thinks you have “the right to serve” must have never watched an army show or been through a basic aptitude test. You physically have to be capable of this job. You can’t just want it. It has to want you.

[@michaelsix9684]

exactly

[@seriwilliamhansseneka5346]

You forgot the most important aspect. MENTAL STRENGTH!

[@Sequence0_Paradox]

@@seriwilliamhansseneka5346 (not) sorry to say, but mental strength won't save you when you're retreating against enemy fire while needing to carry your gear and equipment that weighs a fuckton, and also carry a wounded troop to safety with his equipment on top of that, all the while your physique isn't helping you not crumble like a fucking crouton.

[@JustforNow777]

I am not offended. I want the most Bada$$ exceptional humans in charge of my protection and that of our country. Man or Woman. Do not lower the standards, if they can make it, then cool!

[@redomega24]

So basically a Man. lmao

[@Terrapin47-s8y]

I like your spelling of badass

[@ryanvogel9610]

You sound like a racist

[@josechavarria6140]

Well Navy seals get shot too they ain't superhumans, they're badass but they're not immortal

[@gw2102]

@Sean Macguire don’t feed the troll.

[@pyromidas]

Don't lower the test. If a woman makes it through, don't make a big deal of her, all it means is that she is as capable as her battle brothers. Which is something expected of any man in the unit. It may be exceptional for a female, but her being female isn't important, being seal material is important.

[@DisemboweII]

But combat effectiveness shouldn't matter as long as a woman FEELS accepted and comfortable in her role, even if she's had to cheat to get into the same position as a man! (sarcasm)

[@creepycraft45]

@@DisemboweII Not funny tho but you tried

[@ohhsplashkrs3149]

Lbot beenthere would need to be a genetic freak, most women can’t even do a pull-up now.

[@ohhsplashkrs3149]

Chaos Burrito wow you’re an idiot lmfao I didn’t say women can’t do pull-ups I said most can’t (which is true) and yes a woman would have to be a genetic freak to pass the navy seals tests your fucking moron.

[@SteveDonev]

That's not how the loud people on both sides view it sadly. On one hand you have the idiots that want to lower standards just to let women in for diversity's sake, not realizing that will get people killed. On the other hand you have the idiots who say that it's a boy's club and no girls allowed regardless of their capabilities because they don't want cooties. These are the mouthpieces of both sides.

[@mattcoleman5532]

“And the people who want to prove it are the ones that are not in the ring.” - Perfect summary of people who shout for equality but have no idea what they are actually talking about.

[@fabclark123]

vasquez

[@acceleration4443]

Fun fact a multiple foreign women hold more confirmed kills than any US infantry solider in history.

[@joshuasmall2076]

Having kills doesn’t mean shit. Any crazy taliban member can fire an RPG into a crowd of the enemy and get 100 kills. We’re talking about enduring the tests to become a Seal.

[@nickshelton8423]

Acceleration there is a difference between what they did and what SEALs do

[@70stunes71]

Fact

[@ritikmishra3643]

"Women are gonna feel you're a sexist You should lie!" Probably the thing every man tells himself many times a day but our boi Joe spoke that out loud!!!

[@SupernaturalLove100]

Really? Cause I think he sounded stupid..🥴🙄

[@thefool1086]

true

[@respectedlocalgentleman7108]

Considering he called Rhonda Rousey "the greatest fighter ever regardless of gender", I'd consider hopping of his feminazi placating cock a lil bit there, sport.

[@chrish4439]

@@SupernaturalLove100 Found the dumb easily offended woman 😂

[@growingweedisfordummies4190]

its boy. or you can say man, buy def not boi, w/e the **** that is

[@ChristinaWintherLolk]

Serena Williams who were the former rank 1 women's single tennis player, bragged about how she could defeat any man in the top rank 200. She lost badly during the "Battle of The Sexes" in 1998 to a rank 203 player, Karsten Braasch and the guy was just done playing golf and drinking cold beers and he was a rank +600 player few months prior and he even stated that he played like a rank +500 to keep the game "fun" so it wasn't a one sided massacre, not only that, he also defeated her sister Venus Williams, also a former rank 1, *now think about that and this situation.*

[@guillermoletsworkitout3522]

Well she did say she would lose

[@Heldarion]

@@guillermoletsworkitout3522 Serena got like 1 game, IIRC it was 6-0, 6-1. Against an out-of-shape guy who wasn't good to begin with.

[@jthreefingers8445]

Any videos or...

[@Heldarion]

@@jthreefingers8445 Not sure if videos, but here's a Wiki excerpt: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Sexes_(tennis)#1998:_Karsten_Braasch_vs._the_Williams_sisters Apparently it was 6-1 vs Serena and 6-2 vs Venus.

[@jthreefingers8445]

@Frank Castle Not to say woman are weaker then men... BUT, this is exactly like Ronda Rousey saying she can beat Mayweather or any man.

[@ifranrodriguez]

Let me share a shocking fact: Men and women are different. Let me share another one: We don’t have to be equally good in the same stuff. *corrected a typo.

[@chngguangze7895]

Damn I'm shook.

[@motomav6964]

let me share a shocking fact: singular and plural nouns are different

[@gooble69]

@@motomav6964 😂🤣😂🤣

[@punctuationman334]

Hey, you’re speaking sense.

[@JBtheWeightlifter]

thank you