What Not to Make in Classic Sonic Simulator

After playing CSS for a while now with the custom levels you people make. There some levels that makes me question why to the point I felt like making a video.
PLEASE NOTE
DO NOT ATTACK ANYONE AT ALL THAT MAKES LEVELS THAT WAS MENTIONS ON THIS VIDEO. I TRUELY DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GET HATE FOR A LEVEL THEY MIGHT HAD MADE FOR THE FIRST TIME. FEW OF THESE ARE ALSO JOKES SO DONT GIVE HATE TO PEOPLE WHO ALSO MAKES JOKE LEVELS. thank you lo
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Part 2: • What Not to Make in Cl...
credits for the people who gave me ideas:
@Bitto1070
StrawLock
@vhproductions (he also did the thumbnail and voice on something aswell.)
extra credit to VAdePEGA for the sonic sprite in the thumbnail since i didnt know about this and I feel stupid for not noticing. my bad please don't murder me
yeah didn't expect a sonic video (well it a roblox video but does it count as one tho?) i been busy with rl stuff like school but i'm trying here to think for ideas lol. this is prob a one-off video for css on this channel. any other videos related to CSS will be on other bush cus that the channel i post random stuff.

[@BashyBush]

PART 2 IS HERE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4Sam3h3mpyLjcU&ab_channel=BashyBush please read the description aswell lol. (and also this pin message lol) yeah didn't expect a sonic video huh? well this one i made cus i felt like it. just gonna mention about the end part from the 1k video. yeah i didn't really have a great idea for it so yeah. sorry lol also if ur gonna complain about the grammar i dont care i was lazy lol Edit 17.8.23: Since i noticed there was people who does actually use mobile which i wasnt really expecting. Some info I had mention about not recommending using mobile/tablet, I do not agree about now lol. Honestly, I'm completely fine if you use mobile/tablet to make your level. :v

[@JuanSegundoPerera]

I just have a tablet and i cant make levels :(

[@jaygames2021]

To be honest, as someone who takes pride in how I make my levels, can confirm most of this. Like I've seen so many bad levels with arrogant creators, and here I am after spending months honing my craft being told that my levels "are too empty" because I didn't spam stuff everywhere.

[@ashleinepierre6479]

Exactly!

[@J8KE_creator]

My levels are pretty short but I usually try to do something with them. I have one called white highway and digital base. They are far from perfect but I'm trying to improve 😁

[@Just_another_Taiream_fan]

I feel you brother.

[@Su_tarman6-Bio]

This will feel like pain when I begin making good levels.

[@kacpersobieraj5421]

Well Yeah, but also NO at The same time. You see, while i do agree with you when it comes to you agreeing with The Video that you are watching just like i do agree with it and respect your Oppinion in GENERAL, i do Sometimes side with The guys that Say that your levels are too empty because…….well, to be honest, they kinda are. If ya wanna be cool in Classic Sonic Simulator on Roblox, you gotta occasionally „spam” Enemies by making them follow each other like a badnik conga Dance line and just have The same ENEMY Patterns as an Arcade Shoot-Em-Up, so that you can kill multiple Enemies at once with a Spindash, but remember, don’t do it too often, or it counts as spamming. Off to make a stage where sonic MAKES a shish kebab out of badniks via a Spindash, a literal JOKE level that’s a refference to this Comment. Happy Sonic-ing! (Badnik Shish Kebab Zone - best name for any sonic level EVER.)

[@Luiki491]

3:38 That's looks like a Super Mario World reference where at the end of the Special World there is a text made out of coins, and idk... I kinda think that's cute, taking your time to thank the player for playing is really wholesome to me

[@trollsansofficial]

Still, prob should shorten it to just THX

[@Auragaming1642]

Remaking 1-1 of Mario is actually kinda....genius! Your remake at the end is really cool tbh. 6:45 sisyphus zone

[@miraclejack8736]

You forgot the iconic "Hill" levels where its just walking in a straight line with sonic CD boss music

[@obbycreatorwasnoob]

probably because they’re inspired by the sonic.exe hill creepypasta?

[@bookishgamer890]

Every ‘Hill’ level I came across had the Waterfall music from Undertale

[@moreedcola6837]

And a player pretending to be Sonic.exe at the end hoping someone will RP with him

[@sonicwithdrip6767]

I used to make these levels 2 years ago

[@Inf3cted_W0lf]

@@moreedcola6837 LOL

[@mark_is_him]

this is VERY accurate. there are too many "kiazo" levels that aren't hard, but have poor design lol

[@liquidthefox]

one i encountered was enemy spam, one thing i think was a decent kaizo is i think “epic” ball zone

[@noaxhmr]

6:21 One must imagine Sonic happy.

[@camilo.605]

Yes

[@paaji1]

*Shows Sonic pushing a block on Marble zone*

[@Plaguedocwhoneedsabreak]

One must imagine Sonic Prime.

[@franklinclinton2560]

7:16 the average CSS level you find in public servers

[@A_Stigly_Person]

This is why I am mostly in the test servers

[@Steven-wn6np]

I for myself sure as hell wouldn’t make a level like this but I definitely agree

[@el_tails_argentino]

I A G R E E

[@HyperMurder]

I wish classic sonic simulator makes a browsing system so people can play my stages without me afking in a server forever.

[@loghf718]

5:56 the worst part is that in the spanish servers of css the dinner roleplay levels are more played than normal levels.

[@hypregg]

as a "Classic Sonic Simulator" player, i can confirm that this video is really accurate

[@Colong078]

That's not bad enemy placement, it's just Dr Robotnik being smart 0:58

[@TailsSupremeYT]

Big brain

[@BashyBush]

facts

[@tophatmonkey3584]

Ivo robotnick was banned from css for spawn camping

[@moreedcola6837]

diabolical traps

[@brandonpolanco7781]

Use the - and + buttons to zoom in and out so you can place stuff perfectly.

[@brandonpolanco7781]

On mobile

[@Zecolarii]

It’s also on PC

[@sonc_]

When i test a level, i always avoid the end ring until i’m sure it’s ready to release.

[@undeleteduser8053]

same

[@L.T.H.7032]

That is what any sane person would do

[@RedGhost2008]

Same

[@riniabraham5579]

Great tip thanks so much!

[@just-dashin]

I just put it in the ground until the level is ready.

[@cha93chon1]

1:53 actually looks like hell- how the hell did you capture the feeling correctly 0:31 also, I am ashamed that I accidentally made the beginning of my level exactly like the default layout

[@Ertto54]

Yesss!!!!! Tysm for this video! This is legit what literally everybody does in this game. It’s annoying how bad chunk placements won’t fit together, and there will just be random spikes and monitors floating in midair. Don’t even get me started on all the collision-less lava chunks in marble. Like they don’t hurt you! Please cover the spots! It looks weird when there’s just a giant wall of lava that you can walk through. Of course the worst part is the infamous diner/restaurant levels. Like can’t anybody put some thought into their creations?

[@FieryN8]

Been around the CSS block for a while and can definitely say that these shine true 💀 Great video by the way, I dont think ive seen anyone else cover the odd things ive seen made countless times on that game or its testing servers, and I used to be right there doing it too so I know it all too well

[@RedChaosEmerald]

every timestamp: 0:00 disclaimer 0:05 intro 0:31 walking simulator 0:57 0-star enemy placement 1:13 too many monitors! 1:42 weird level names 1:52 poor level layout 2:24 unnecessary event triggers 2:49 a level that’s STILL in the beta stages 3:04 no decoration, not even a ring 3:28 bad character door traps 3:40 text-2-ring 3:55 creating a level on mobile (sometimes it’s hard, sometimes it not) 4:38 dev items 5:00 unfitting music 5:12 remaking already existing levels 5:32 using the default test layout 5:46 *_diner_** levels.* (They steal popularity from other levels sometimes) 6:13 goal rings at the start (common in diners but you’re in front of the ring) 6:22 push a block to get your goal (the goal is too high up! 7:00 broken level intro 7:17 all the things you shouldn’t do crammed into one 10:54 outro

[@varganyamuvek]

As a certified level designer KHM KHM, I have seen many bad levels, that really annoyed me. Like they didn't test the level with all character abilities, enemy spam, literal unplayability, or messed up and hurting object layout.

[@Impactor-it1pl]

The block push is a Sisyphus moment

[@cowgaming7186]

actually, having no nothing other than floor can help make a pretty good platforming centered or speed centered stage

[@Swagpion]

Yeah, no stupid enemies. Just pure platforming skill.

[@nblade]

6:37 for these levels, just use a character like Metal Sonic or Knuckles to get up there.

[@BashyBush]

if they forget to disable them ;v

[@whoreallyisjoe2542]

rouge, tails, and robotnik have left the chat.

[@Nadabrecords]

​@@whoreallyisjoe2542Amy rose almost left the chat

[@kaosagamerreal]

appreciate this video a ton as someone who's planning to start making stages in the game soon thinking about recreating the cyberspace levels from frontiers 👀

[@GunHedgehog]

4:42 Like bro, I wonder why I couldn't beat that much Kaizo zones. thanks for the tip man,

[@BashyBush]

np

[@SanicTheHegeh0g001]

6:43 One Must Imagine Sonic Happy.

[@Walnut64]

When it comes to bad level layout I sometimes have to make sure that the players don’t get trapped in the wall so I usually put spikes there

[@Fluxuation]

I just wanna let you guys know: the best way to make a level is wow the player. Make some super cool spring chains, play around with objects, and most importantly… BE CREATIVE WITH CHUNKS AND OBJECTS! Use them in unintended/unconventional ways! For example, if you have a part of your level that you don’t want someone rolling through, then at the bottom of the ramp, put a top-right facing spring, then a bottom-right one just above and ahead (↗️↘️), followed by a speed booster, which should get them out of the roll and give them a speed boost! Or, if you want to manually edit the height that springs launch you, put a balloon where you want them to stop! :D It’s these small and creative ways you can make your level more fun. And just remember to mix speed sections with platforming sections. Test zone is EXTREMELY good at this, with its geometrical shape and insane ramps, you can legitimately go FLYING if you build it right, zipping up and down and all around. :3 Personally, I believe test zone is the best editor, and it’s NOT EVEN CLOSE. Since every chunk has its own width, and each width has its own matching group, INCLUDING RAMPS, you can run on ceilings, which allows for some INSANE level design where you aren’t just going left and right with occasional jumping and loops, you go can ALL OVER THE PLACE. Speed boosters are extremely good at helping you of this. :v Combine this with creative object use, max width and length, and a good theme+color pallette+music, and you legitimately make some insanely replayable levels. Just remember that every now and then, get people to playtest! Ask people in chat or get a friend! That’s how I was able to get good feedback and make player friendly and replayable levels. (If anyone here has seen my level Speed Fortress or Carnival Chaos, you a homie :>) And of course, be sure to to use the block object in test zone to make custom chunks, and make sure to optimize it by replacing unnecessary blocks in said custom chunks with existing chunks! You should probably already know this though ;> Just have fun! Think of something that will make someone go “wow, that was cool” or “damn how did they do that? Maybe I should use that in my level!”. Thanks for reading

[@Den_Ukrainian001]

Your video pretty accurate, but with new update in Sonic Classic Simulator V12 it's easier to make good levels on mobile!

[@BashyBush]

well while i was working on the video. the mobile part was done on v11 and after i done that, i noticed that v12 came out of the test server which fixed a few stuff so yeah. i havent tested if mobile still had the camera bug but im prob guessing that fixed now.

[@Den_Ukrainian001]

@@BashyBush camera bug still in Sonic Classic Simulator V12, yea

[@sonicultimateyt1090]

Thanks for your great ideas! Ill be trying to make a level with all of these creative ideas.

[@XeriffGDaRBX]

Suggestion for what not to make: Blank Tile Hole Traps (use labyrinth zone for this one) Basically holes that is an entire tile line through the floor.

[@ub-06austin40]

To be fair, that level you made on mobile is better than most of the levels I’ve come across while playing

[@TheFlamingWarrior2021]

Enjoyed this! gave me a few laughs very well made man :)

[@davidalejandrointriagoaria1475]

As someone who has created levels in CSS, I have accidentally did some of these (The most recent being I let a WIP Flying Battery recreation slip as a public level, whooops).

[@BashyBush]

not for a long while or something lol.

[@Acroflame]

As someone who outright made a level called terrible bad evil zone this is some great inspiration >:)

[@soouG.]

would be funnier if there was a random guy in a secluded spot in the "everything you shouldnt do" level saying "welcome to annoying diner do you want a table"

[@claudiorosa3647]

The best video that helps you what not to do in CSS :D

[@gammaboost]

Meanwhile me getting this video in my recommendations randomly, finding out that there's a classic sonic engine in ROBLOX of all things and has super accurate physics

[@lorigamer8736]

this video unironically helped me making my own "creepy" level. Thanks for dem tips

[@with_ered]

theres a reason why i hate spring yard zone in CSS and 1:52 is the exact reason

[@BashyBush]

To be honest I seen Emerald Hill Zone being worst than Spring Yard Zone but in my opinion, Spring Yard Zone isn't the greatest aswell. Aleast it ok than Emerald Hill Zone

[@gammaboy4568]

@@BashyBush Honestly, I have to wonder why Vyriss doesn't just throw out those level sets and just merge them as Test zone palettes. They're rarely ever cohesive (somehow more obnoxious than using labyrinth/marble sets). What's even more upsetting, I've seen more effective levels made from metropolis than I have from emerald hill.

[@cornwall22]

the inaccurate part about the last level is that it's still playable

[@BashyBush]

and beatable

[@blaketheboy8776]

Trust me, I made levels on mobile, one of them being a remix of green hill with character specific pathways, and i think that level turned out okay imo.

[@afartingguy8541]

Im also a mobile creator, i still do some of these mistakes such as publishing unfinished levels as a beta and still having one diner at a usable state, yet i dont use it as much now

[@ViberNOT_hereALT]

10:05 **computer noise**

[@BashyBush]

blame windows defender

[@geo7576]

Children, take notes.

[@ImNotCjdust22]

I will dad

[@Echolovania]

This right here is why I have more fun making Blue Sphere Stages. I can't make a good stage for anything.

[@PhantomOfficial07]

You can make Blue Sphere stages? goddamn count me in

[@GavinArtster]

All jokes aside, this helped me make some good levels!

[@Megaclaw54]

6:51 YOU FOOL, YOU FORGOT ABOUT MY TRAP CARD…(switch to metal sonic, double jump):all done :D

[@Whimsykit]

or use tails and fly up there or use knuckles/rouge and climb up there

[@Megaclaw54]

@@Whimsykit there’s a lot of characters that can pass that but I put metal sonic bc 1: he is my fav 2: the others It feels to cheesy, metal sonic is just sonic but better in gameplay, aka I love the double jump lol

[@Inky5]

6:46 one must imagine sonic happy

[@JuliRocket]

It’s actually easier on mobile with the zooming feature. You don’t need to move your mouse to the scroll to move the camera.

[@sanstheskeleton1.]

A very huge downside, your fingers might accidentally slip and move a Object. Happened to me MULTIPLE TIMES, i tell ya.

[@TheTotallyRealSegment]

@@sanstheskeleton1. Also the stupid scroll problem

[@SIG7Pro]

Since when was zooming ever possible?

[@JuliRocket]

@@SIG7Prosince when did you forget that it’s a thing?

[@JuliRocket]

@@TheTotallyRealSegmentwhat scroll problem on mobile?

[@thaias9654]

That broken intro level reminded me of my first level i made around 2018 (i think. probably not) and came back to around 4 years later only to find all of the springs didn't really work or barely did at all. (Like you would barely make a jump to another spring or couldn't make it at all.)

[@user-yx3px1uy6z]

Yes, agreed to the nth degree! Funny thing though is that one of my older levels has the start be mostly default level flat ground, and yeah, I wish I knew better lol.

[@SRanked-oc3vp]

What about infinite loops? "just put a loop inside a loop. but inner loop must have the same ceiling as outer loop" Put it right next to a goal that you just passed on accident with a dash pad forcing you in

[@NeonBobert]

as someone who has played this game for many many years, all of these are accurate. especially the monitor spam one and the bad level layout one, there's so many levels like that and it genuinely makes me sad. the diner level one just gave me nostalgia to when every server would have a "tails diner" the last level was just a level that you usually see at the top of the custom levels page lol

[@Bitto1070]

best level making tutorial i've seen

[@Tech-187]

Surprisingly that level you made at the end isn't so bad after all

[@SillyBillyVsSillyBilly]

Nice vedio dude and also now good thing part 2 is out

[@silly8492]

funny how ive played css for nearly 3 years now but still consistently break some of these rules

[@Adrian.R850]

I haven't played Classic Sonic Simulator in years, ever since I finished the few levels I had in mind. I'm glad to see nothing has changed in the long run.

[@Countsmegula]

I'm always going back through levels I'm making and checking to see if I'm actually enjoying what I'm making. I have a high personal standard and while making something may seem like a good idea, actually playing it might turn out to be dreadful, so it gets scrapped. Only problem is that it takes ages for me to make a genuine level.

[@sonicx2.0577]

Yes, I unconsciously spammed one of my levels without realizing it XD I tried to make a level with decoration, without any enemy, the level is public, called unknow laberynt, and its just a laberynt zone un color grey, like Scrap brain zone act 3, with Undertale waterfall ost. I think i made It well :)

[@Superkirby982]

Mhm... ...yea I'd say that's fairly accurate 💀💀 (Love the editing btw 👍)

[@BashyBush]

thank you lol

[@loghf718]

Something annoying that happens mostly in the spanish servers of css, is that the most played level is a roleplay dinner level with the giant ring at the start.

[@REAL_NOLAR]

I use water triggers randomly to tell a story. Ever since eggman took over chrome city he has accidentally flooded the town and broke the water system with his bad pipes lol. I agree with you on the text but I have mastered the art of making maps on mobile Mr.

[@FlashGlove]

6:20 i already made a level fully based on those blocks, as one of the only puzzle levels in css. I had made one of those but like, half of the example one and ppl pointed it out so much, i reworked the long push part into a one u must kill some badniks (i didnt spam them) then push the block. I showed it of to some of my friends which pointed the long push out, and they really liked it. After that, i never made long pushes again.

[@ThamyRose19]

Well, I think only one of my levels has these kind of problems, "Nightmare Zone". There's rings but you need to be really careful, no ennemies but spikes, water always rising in a vertical Labyrinth Zone with US Boss theme.

[@MiffoKing]

The only one I don't really agree with is the don't use mobile version since I only use a tablet or whatever but the rest of the video was amazing! It was so enjoyable and relatable hope you're happy for the new subscriber

[@BashyBush]

i actually disagree with myself about the mobile one 3 days after part 1 came out lmao. thank you anyway!

[@Stxrlight820]

5:44 BRO FR, DINER ZONES ARE LEGIT ATTENTION GRABBERS. IN EVERY DAMN SERVER THERES A DINER But yeah, making Levels on a Phone can be a bit annoying.

[@tituswaugh4367]

6:42 "One must imagine Sisyphus happy."

[@phanterseo]

5:42 me too I don't want dinner role-playing level

[@Slaymisi]

I sometimes upload WIP levels because I playtest them when they are not finished yet and then exit the editor

[@CrepTheCreator]

5:30 XD Yeah. I thought of that a while ago

[@VouleterAlt]

3:28 I have used those doors but the doors I didn’t want them to play as because I played a while back. also I am now just seeing this. Im 10 months lats D:

[@spongeboi2021]

so true, this all peeve me so much

[@licenseplate3522]

I actually made a level to portray and make fun of stereotypes that make silly stuff. Some things you mentioned have been included, some have not been thought of in the making.

[@riniabraham5579]

You made a good level!

[@TailsSupremeYT]

7:57 by the time I saw that water I'm finally convinced.

[@Cap1001kyle]

4:50 hey I do that although not in unfair levels but to unlock secret paths in my levels like secret fire shield box in a wall to unlock the path in the wall lol

[@2pplin1channel]

I know I'm late and in the wrong video, but you're good at survive the disasters 2!

[@HyperMurder]

I take pride in doing my stages and even if I have to erase my whole stage to rework it because it was horrible then I'll do it.

[@Dorkish_Draws]

That green hill remake is impressive tho

[@BashyBush]

made out of boredom lmao

[@GSFigure]

I remember when diner levels were genuinely popular. Heck, I even made one and it attracted quite a bit of people.

[@IcedOcean]

When I play this, I actually tend to make good levels on mobile. The only rule is be patient, and DONT SPAM. I understand your point for lower end mobile devices though.

[@tails_nine1]

Honestly, i was like this in 2022. (That's when i started playing). But now I'm actually evolving!

[@gabesonic2]

5:43 I'm Sorry, I already made one, :((((((((((((((((((((( also I made a cool zone with the sky chase concept but vertical

[@Sonic.ALTtheEMPOROR]

Me too… It is still a Work In Progress by the way, And it’s basically Green Hill Zone but all levels (INCLUDING ACT 4), And it’s remastered

[@Sonic.ALTtheEMPOROR]

Wait a minute, Opps wrong comment shit…

[@_Dud4_]

3:53 i feel the pain making an level on mobile🥲

[@mertkocyegit4400]

3:53 not bad in mobile but i think its hard in pc

[@BashyBush]

mobile is harder just because of the camera bugging out so pc is easier lol

[@mertkocyegit4400]

@@BashyBush but i think pc harder mobile easier

[@BashyBush]

@@mertkocyegit4400 have you tried making a level on pc?

[@mertkocyegit4400]

@@BashyBush very very very before

[@Sonic.ALTtheEMPOROR]

@@mertkocyegit4400 Yeah mobile easier

[@user-kh4uz7bx6h]

those would be very effective placement and really challenging

[@SplendidRedHead5]

You are so right

[@connieng9808]

2:47 i use them for plp to playtest them and have no friends locally

[@Anon4]

As a classic sonic simulator i agree with everything in here

[@blu4presidnt]

I imagine this guy rewatching the entire video just to know exactly what not to do to create the last level

[@Thelast_alter]

For the tablet part, yeah it's really fucking buggy because I sometimes couldn't move the object where I wanted, also there is this screen bug where it kept dragging to the start of the level, forcing you to restart the game Classic css jank

[@BashyBush]

Yup. It still possible to make a somewhat ok level on tablet/mobile. But because of the screen bug where it just drags you to the start until you reload the level is annoying.

[@foxlime286]

@@BashyBush hey have u ever had this weird bug where everything is blurry?

[@BashyBush]

@@foxlime286 something like this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/faiYlHhjqNWCkMk

[@mertkocyegit4400]

I maked some levels I MAKED 7 LEVELS ON MOBILE LOL

[@foxlime286]

@@BashyBush yep

[@just_a_dude691]

Omg i putted a secret electricity shield just because yes, and niw after you mentioned the dev only shield, man some ppls might think it's a dev only shield, ffff*****cckk

[@hoggersytv2]

As Someone Who Made A Diner Level That Had A Bit Of Effort Into It And Actually Uses Not Bad Music This Is Pretty Much What Some People Say.

[@markfaites]

this makes me want to rip my eyes out, especially the end of the vid, but nonetheless, it is accurate...

[@girlbyeatornadoisforming]

cant wait to make my next level with the iphone 5s, default layout, and with bad enemy placement /j

[@basedalternativeisaac]

3:53 That hasn't stopped me before

[@ironmetal3779]

No badniks or rings can be acceptable if the level design is good. Using test zone would only be good if it's your first map (but as your own spin to it).

[@danaelpollitopiopio6634]

6:20 one must make sonic happy

[@amyrose6333]

I trolled so many people with my level (it’s called Angel Titanic) they kept going right which punished them for exploring, it was the cream’s death in Sonic.exe and the ring in top middle

[@doubt2022]

0:31 nice sonic.exe level