What on Earth is going on with the used car market?!

[@johnerrington4072]

Geoff, unfortunately, you are wrong. I followed your suggestion and searched for a 320 diesel estate from 2021 and there are NONE, ZERO. The one ordinary bloke has bought it already.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

😳 wow. You’re right!

[@G58]

@@GeoffBuysCars 2:21 That’s actually almost 20%, not “almost a quarter”. We don’t need to exaggerate these figures, they are actually revealing enough as they are. Peace 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@DaveAber9999]

Take out 3-series: 2021 onwards, BMW, Estate, Diesel - there are currently (19:42 12/09/24) 2 available. A 2021 Alpina D3 at £55k and a 2024 D3 at £70K. Ordinary bloke need not apply!

[@YegoYTP]

@@GeoffBuysCars I think the reason might be because all of the 2021-2024 320d's are down as Hybrids since they made them a mild hybrid after the 2020 model year which I had no idea about until now

[@craigwithey]

No manuals either all auto

[@chargeriderepeat7024]

Im old now, just pleased I lived through the glory days of complete motoring freedom, unmonitored internet, security free flight and smartphone free childhood. The luddites were sooooo right.

[@Beliefisthedeathofintellect]

Still free!. No corporate has power over you. Only God has that right. You have full rights until your rights inflicts another's. Any wally who tries to make a claim that a civil breach is a crime. Are infact committing a crime upon the land. Trust law rules. Contract law protects. Only a contract that has consent is lawful.

[@melviniq1169]

Interestingly the guy across the road is high tek goes all over with his job and will not use a smart phone for lots of reasons and now neither will my family he will not even answer his door unless he knows that they are coming.

[@megane230f1]

​@Beliefisthedeathofintellect they have control if you buy into their bullshit

[@steve-r-collier]

@@melviniq1169 smart phones also cause most accidents..

[@GT380man]

@@BeliefisthedeathofintellectI share the theoretical principle. In practise we’ll lose freedom if we won’t go along with their control agenda. If we do go along with it, we’re not free, anyway.

[@Trevor_Austin]

Everything turns to shit when politicians and civil servants get involved. The car market is one example. The NHS is another. Then we have the Post Office, the “green electricity” fiasco, domestic refining, immigration, the rail network, the Millennium Dome, the Scottish ferries, The Department for Transport Shared Services Centre, Libra System for magistrates (another one of Fujitsu’s finest), NHS National Programme for IT (£10 billion for nothing), etc. I don’t think there has ever been a success. Now we have mass release of prisoners. What could possibly go wrong?

[@SalemikTUBE]

There are no qualifications required to be a politician, not even to be a cabinet minister. A sensible person might think it a good idea for the minister of health to be a doctor with 30 years experience. The minister in charge of energy does not know what an Amp is or where to find one. We are doomed.

[@markstarmer3677]

@@SalemikTUBE that intellectual Rayner is a prime example of knowing f- all .

[@davidcoleman6032]

​@@SalemikTUBE There should be degree qualifications for common sense, then only being allowed to be an Mp with a doctorate in common sense!

[@andreaallsopp7043]

I was one of the trainers who delivered Libra courses - a while back but if I recall correctly it had been about 8 years in development and was only half done, the finance side was still "green on black". Fujitsu also did the Immigration and Asylum software in 2000 (delivered that too). In the 80s the emerging IT guys were paid very well and it was suggested that a computer grade be added to the Civil Service, but they would have had to pay them more than the Exec grades, so instead they outsourced......and here we are.

[@Rugbyman269]

The well meaning but daft as a brush elite eh ? What would we do without them .

[@molly-gz1gd]

In the UK you can't drive your diesel car into town to go shopping but it's ok to drive your "low emission vehicle" to the same town to buy grapes from Kenya and apples from New Zealand.

[@rosen9425]

hold on, illegal logic detected. £500 fine immediately pending a 900,000 year jail sentence.

[@markrainford1219]

@@rosen9425 Don't worry the SStarmer police will come knocking.

[@Jack-lo1uc]

That get shipped on a massive diesel boat😂

[@MargaretWilson-r4m]

Do not forget the avocados

[@bobstirling6885]

I don't go into any towns that try and charge me to use my diesel.....

[@TooOldToCare-kl3co]

I feel so sorry for you, living in the UK, with these ridiculous ev mandates, we are getting close down under, thankfully it hasn’t happened yet, yeh , they’re trying to, but ev sales are declining here, as consumers realise how crap they are- we drive long distances, not much charging infrastructure. All the fanboys have already got their ev, no one, and I mean no one else is interested. And to anyone who thinks ev’s are green, you are absolutely delusional.

[@hadtobe4502]

Declining yes, however still more year on year.

[@StellaAsh]

@@hadtobe4502 The only ones buying are fleet vehicles which get large discounts -

[@megane230f1]

Britain has been sold out that is the problem

[@michaelgodbold6247]

Future my arse

[@113msaunders]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@keithfarrell3370]

Its no longer a case of searching for the best car you can afford. You are now searching for the least crap car you can barely afford.

[@muckle8]

Truth. A lot of useable and affordable cars went in the scrappage schemes , a very different buyers market now.

[@kderules]

It's never been about the climate. We need to organise and fight for ICE.

[@rocketmunkey1]

The story they've been spinning is that infrared radiation reflects off of a certain gas in our atmosphere, the only problem is electromagnetic radiation does not reflect refract or transmit off of homogenous particles within a media, you need a surface (a boundary between identifiable collections of matter) This is proved beyond any doubt by pointing an infrared camera at clear blue sky, which appears black the complete absence of back radiation off of thin air !

[@scaryfakevirus]

Nothing we do will affect climate anyway. It's all about control, making us depressed and anxious and pushing us over the edge.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

@@rocketmunkey1 They lie for a living.

[@COIcultist]

I don't like to quote him as half the time he sounds like a lunatic, but as Scotty Kilmer pointed out EVs will also come at the cost of the destruction of the American and European automotive industry as well.

[@scaryfakevirus]

My reply has been deleted even though I tried to avoid their ridiculous algorithms. Maybe I said too much about the climate sakm.

[@forrestrobin2712]

Fiat just announced today that they are "pausing" production of the electric Fiat 500 due to lack of demand. Well what a surprise…😂

[@john1v6]

Range will be c**p. Probably uses a couple of AA cells🤣

[@iggysfriend4431]

​@@john1v6And the E version will be twice the price of the petrol version.

[@gooble69]

Here in Australia the Fiat 500e EV cost $60k AUD for a tiny 2 seater with a real world range of about 200kms. You can get a Kia Picanto which is slightly bigger for 1/3rd of the price, or pay a little more for a Mazda 2. What drugs do Fiat execs have to be on to think a $60k microcar with terrible range would sell?

[@DS9FANINDADEFIANT]

@forrestrobin2712 they're pausing all fiat 500z, the EV was the last one to go.

[@DireW0lf0]

Volvo said they were going to only produce EVs after 2030, but they have now shelved that idea as it is only the ICE models that are selling in any volume!

[@chrisbarron5861]

The reason there's so few diesel 320's for sale is because the owners are keeping them. Hanging on to them because they're cheap to run, useful, comfortable etc

[@hadtobe4502]

Or, not many sold in the first place.

[@GeorgeAusters]

There wouldn't have been many new diesel's sold in the first place.. Old diesels are great but I wouldn't have a new one!

[@Mistabushi]

Bingo, as a 2.0L diesel car owner I’m about to keep it as long as it takes. Euro6 and £35RT, 64mpg motorway and 44 in the city. Too poor to go EV but they are shit quality anyway, interiors are cheap plastic with ipad strapped to dashboard. F that

[@chrisbarron5861]

@@hadtobe4502 ​@hadtobe4502 possibly but they seemed popular, from memory

[@chrisbarron5861]

@@Mistabushi totally agree. 2.0 tdi here too. Happy days :)

[@KovietUnionDefector]

Better than BBC flagship primetime TV.....Geoff is on fire!

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Nothing more dangerous for the mainstream than Geoff with a spreadsheet 😂😂

[@sportyv1k1ng]

not entirely sure that's a very high bar tbh...😂

[@alanthomson1227]

Hope he doesn’t have any lithium ion batteries in his pocket if he’s on fire.

[@KovietUnionDefector]

Lol, yes, it sounds simple doesn't it, Geoff. But we have to remember folks like Mariana Spring have been brainwashed at the very highest Academic institutions in order to lose their ability to use common sense ​@@GeoffBuysCars:) I think you need to contact Sonia Poulton. She has a show 2 x a week here.and her followers have mentioned you already. She would certainly give you a slot on her show :) Bless ya Geoff. I still need to email you regards pro's & cons of cheap farm life here in the land of 18k lakes and 5.5m people ,)

[@sksx9269]

Rust in pieces 25 year old 1.9 TDI 55-60 mpg 200,000 on the clock. Died of ULEZ

[@ddoherty5956]

As Mulder said, "The truth is out there!"

[@TooOldToCare-kl3co]

Ah, but don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story!

[@ddoherty5956]

@@TooOldToCare-kl3co that must have been Scully. 🤣

[@Starlight22215]

People don’t want to know the truth that’s why we have shit world in your face.

[@andrewnevermind4902]

Geoff Thompson - the only youtuber who's videos i NEVER miss. One of us one of us one of us. Feel like we're buddies.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Yes! Love this comment.

[@andywrollo2915]

Couldn't agree more.

[@STAYALIVE2024]

Agreed... Unlike the clickbaitmeister and his Porsche 😂

[@Jamcabur]

We never miss a Geoff video! When someone is genuine, like he is, it just shines through. Thanks Geoff.

[@ChubbaStun]

LoL

[@peterc2248]

I drive a 2016 Hyundai i10 with the one litre engine. I bought it outright for cash back then. According to my MoT record, I do about 5000 miles a year. I service it myself. It's not a rocket ship of course but it suits my needs. I sold my previous 2009 Hyundai i10 to a friend with 45k on the clock and it’s still going strong at over 110k. My point is that the longer we keep cars (or anything) working, the better for the environment. It would be more effective environmentally for the Government to fix the roads to reduce damage to existing cars and offer tax incentives to keep older cars going, than to force us all into EVs. As others have said, it’s not about the environment, it’s about freedom of movement.

[@loonaticsrunningtheassylum]

If only the government were there to actually make life better for the peasants. They're corrupt as fk and they do exactly what the corporate bribes (lobbying) has paid for..

[@shorty5346]

But the whole point they want is to keep buying new cars not to keep old cars so they can keep making money it's all about money

[@RichardASK]

@@shorty5346 There's nothing wrong about making money, that's called an economy! However, it's the direction of the economy's travel that is wrong in this Country under this shower at present and to be fair, the previous lot weren't that much better, but they weren't the manic control freaks this lot are! I say shame on those who didn't vote, look what we've got now?

[@melvinplant8637]

STARMER is tying to stop your freedom of movement by installing,PAY PER MILE ,AND THE WILL JUST KEEP INCREASING THE COST PER MILE TILL YOU CANT AFFORD TO GO ANY WHERE. THE BAR ,STEWARD.

[@BeaHindebars]

It's exhausting pretending to be a normal person 😩

[@GeoffBuysCars]

I know I’m shattered now!

[@natmol1595]

Pretending would be exhausting. Normal is a concept.

[@ddoherty5956]

Especially when the voices become insistent...🤣

[@stevewest131]

Conspiracy theorists struggling to pretend to be normal. That comes as quite a surprise 😆

[@ddoherty5956]

@@stevewest131Theorists? Critical observance is what leads to the postulation and proof of every theory. I'm a critical observer mate.

[@mototoki]

There's only 10 BMW 3 series because no one who has one would sell it given the alternatives

[@chrisattwood8701]

You are right, I'll be keeping my 2016 335D for the foreseeable. Much prefer the interior to the modern ones and everything else is similar

[@paulgee1355]

I wouldn't sell my 2012 318dSE estate, which has had a 320 remap. In fact, the timing chain went and having it rebuilt, with a modified and improved chain fitted, was cheaper than trying to replace it with another one of the same year and model so, a year ago, it had a full engine rebuild and I intend to hang on to it for as long as possible because it's a great car. I'm hoping to get it, at least, to moon distance mileage. It's on 186,500 right now. It broke even long ago, carbon wise.

[@georgerubypoppy1063]

@@paulgee1355 Just had to say goodbye to my, much loved, 2005 118d of the last decade`s ownership. 254K+ on the clock and runs like a dream, but cost of rectifying MOT failure is more than a like replacement. She`d probably broke even before I got her. Great, reliable, little workhorse.

[@SuperDeadlen]

I'm keeping my 435D convertible for the same reasons, don't like soft tops and it's a modern as I ever want to get. ​@@chrisattwood8701

[@jamie0193]

@@georgerubypoppy1063I’ve been wanting to take a diesel like that to moon miles but been worried about timing chain, did you have to do one?

[@cdrone4066]

I in the US, I have a 2010 Subaru Outback with 110,000 miles. I won’t buy a new car because I don’t want to be tracked. I live in rural PA, no EV for me, I don’t have to worry about snow or when the temps drop, my car does what it’s supposed to do, turn on and go.

[@MargaretWilson-r4m]

Yes, but you are living in the Land of the Free.

[@robalexander7348]

So true, i have so much enjoyed my Five new Subaru WRX cars since 2005, NO EV for me 👍 Au

[@loonaticsrunningtheassylum]

wrote a paper on EV's for my mechanical engineering degree. A 30kw battery (just producing the battery in a factory not including the mining side or the rest of the car(nissan note when I wrote it)) would need to be charged only on renewable (not actually possible) and driven for 9 years before it becomes level with a small hatch (fiesta/Corsa etc) that was worked out at 12k miles a year.

[@Tom-dt4ic]

Probably not even good information for the 80's. You're a card carrying Luddite. Congrats!

[@veracitysleeps]

Yeah I'm very suspicious of any kind of whole of life figures for EVs VS ICE. You can't take into account EVERY extra bit of pollution created by EVs, or the fact that in the real world they are having many additional problems that were never factored in (mainly centred around issues with the inherent danger of the batteries).

[@Tom-dt4ic]

When was your paper, twenty years ago? And probably not accurate even then. Really it's just a math problem how much better EV's are for the environment than ICE cars. But stepping back and doing a very unscientific sniff test, of course EV's must be better than literally burning hydrocarbons at the point of use millions and millions and millions of times, and dumping their wasted products into the air we breath.

[@AndrewRidley-m5o]

The electric vehicle would have been better promoted as an alternative to ICE. instead, people are told they are being forced to purchase an item that has so many defects from manufacturing to practicality.

[@LOOKINVERTED]

If the market wasn't to be rigged in favour of something that isn't ready yet the EV would be able to compete against our existing rolling stock. Only way to get the numbnuts to buy something worse than they've already got is with the market fix.

[@stumps8672]

When you force someone into buying something, it immediately puts people off buying it. I don’t like being told what I can and can’t buy.

[@reececollison5101]

@@stumps8672I guarantee that if the government bought EVs in and didn’t put a deadline on and force people into them, they’d sell more. The more you try and force it on someone, the more a large amount of people just dig their heels in as much as possible

[@CrusaderSports250]

The mistake was to make it car sized, a small tandem seat vehicle as a scooter alternative, with full weather protection, would have been far better, people don't make long trips on a scooter as a rule so a limited range would not have been a problem, the small vehicle would have helped with congestion, and being primarily town based a 30 mph top speed would have been more than enough, the Danes had one in the early eighties called a MiniEl, still in production in Germany I believe, now with a lithium battery to extend the range, unfortunately the disastrous C5 came out at the same time and destroyed the market for a generation. A scooter alternative that you could use with just everyday clothing and you couldn't fall off would have been far more justifiable.

[@AndrewRidley-m5o]

@CrusaderSports250 they're trying to tell us now that people previously drove to work are now using e-scooters and e-bikes. In reality, they're being used by people who used to walk. Effectively putting more demand on the grid and increased consumption. Also, it is increasing people's waistband.

[@rakido7388]

When you buy your burger or chicken bits from a supermarket, and vege activists hang around outside, showing you the conditions that cows/chickens are kept in, I think we should do the same. Hang around EV dealerships showing the conditions that EV's and batteries are produced in, because the eco-mentalists ( (c) Jeremy Clarkson) don't think about where they come from.

[@infinitijourney]

I was standing in that crowd of vege activists with my banner stating: no cruelty to all animals including bugs and worms. all life is as much equal as important: mammals, birds, reptiles or insects. or are they discriminating? who decided that you can't eat chicken but you can kill bugs for food?

[@melvinnnamah9040]

@@rakido7388 I think you should Google what the oil fields in Nigeria and Venezuela looks like. Far more damaging to the environment and the people that live there than any cobalt mine

[@Nelson_Churchill]

Is Clarkson an eco mentalist? I'm confused

[@rosen9425]

@@melvinnnamah9040 cobalt mines are about slave/child labor being swept under a rug having "net zero carbon" printed on it. Also trusting google with sources is highly questionable these days. They control all information and can hide whatever they want, which they absolutely do.

[@casualcausalityy]

​@@melvinnnamah9040So we should encourage petroleum extraction in developed countries with better regulations and equipment, clearly

[@stedlocks]

My 13 year old vw caddy emits zero emissions on the MOT test…..it gets nearly 700 miles from a tank of diesel, it looks nice, yet people would rather I scrap it, to get something I can’t afford, nor do I want.

[@AlanMynah]

"My 13 year old vw caddy emits zero emissions on the MOT test". lol, mate, there is a reason, but it's not the one you think.

[@johnharrison373]

If it's a diesel, which I presume it is, the emissions test on an MOT Test is smoke opacity. This means just testing the amount of visible emissions. It doesn't mean it has zero emissions. It will still emit NOx, CO² etc., as these are not tested (yet) in the MOT Test.

[@BauregardSenior87]

I will argue with you that ev drivers suffer from never-enough-itus and will continously reclassify what is a pollutant, what is an acceptable level and what is a diminishing return.

[@al6346]

Get real dude

[@loonaticsrunningtheassylum]

@6chhelipilot but your EV battery creates about 20 times the emissions a diesel does even after being driven 12k a year for nearly 10 years.. (I wrote a paper on EV's for my engineering degree) EVS are absolute destruction to the planet

[@iggysfriend4431]

The whole EV thing is like a cult. The cult will accept no questions about anything related to EV.

[@elduderino7767]

resistance to change is normal, some people thought about their horses the same way

[@iggysfriend4431]

@@elduderino7767 Change is good, so long as it's an improvement. I for one do not want to be waiting at a charging station for an hour or more to refule my car, when I can do it in 5 minutes. There are many other issues, such as if you car has a damaged battery it ends up either being written off or it's an eye watering bill. The fact that it's almost impossible to repair your car any more. The list goes on and on.

[@elduderino7767]

@@iggysfriend4431 yeah i'd charge my car at home for free and never pay for petrol or electricity ever again as for repairs, not really a thing on EVs, you change tyres and the in cabin air filter, eventually the brake pads and maybe in a few hundred thousand kms it might be worth looking at the suspension battery? any EV with proper battery management will outlast an ICE vehicle even if you follow the ICE maintenance schedule religiously by the time the ICE car fails you could have bought another EVs on servicing costs, parts and petrol lol

[@johnstudd4245]

@@elduderino7767 Are you delusional? I will answer my own question. Yes

[@elduderino7767]

​@@johnstudd4245 haven't paid for fuel/electricity in more than a year - sucks to be me 😅

[@grahamconnolly3241]

A friend of mine has a EV from work for tax reasons, but his wife uses it for the school run and he uses his diesel for work.

[@69spook]

Your point is? ........ 🤔

[@AlienLivesMatter]

Tax fraud or not fit for purpose. Your choice

[@Loz-oh3us]

😂👍

[@globaleye8]

That's all EVs are fit for, the school run - providing it's not too far 🤭

[@gingerjessy]

@@globaleye8 Billy. Where's your homework?! Miss. My dad's EV caught fire and it was in the boot.

[@glassfibrespecialists.]

Have a gander at the prices of a new Mercedes esprinter and then compare the ones that are between 1 & 4 years old. £30000- £50,000 depreciation on 3 year old vans with 5000 miles on the clock. Also, my vans are derv and can all carry 1500kg, the esprinter can only carry 750kg, so by the time you have a spare tyre & a rear step fitted then your labourer jumps aboard, your payload can only be about 500kg.

[@sullivanrachael]

So you need approx 3 Esprinters to do the basic job of one diesel. Not much planet saving going on is there? I cannot understand how the E-*van*gelists harp on about ‘efficiency’ of EVs - they aren’t capable of the same work so they aren’t truly comparable.

[@johnpassey3176]

On holiday at the moment in my SAAB 9-5 2.3 auto estate, 3 humans, 4 dogs, mountain of stuff in the boot, average 36mpg 👍

[@Teebat316]

Great video. Completely blows the net zero argument out the water.

[@SusanBell-dl5gr]

The Net Zero argument has been High and dry for a long time, billions taken out of the motor market to make 15 min cities attractive.

[@elbuggo]

It is a religion, so to them, facts do not matter.

[@DS9FANINDADEFIANT]

It doesnt, because the reason the 320d is not appearing is because past 2021 it was a hybrid. So really this video is a non video

[@antonyjh1234]

Net Zero argument still remains. A whole summer with the air con going in an au summer is equivalent to the energy in one tank of diesel. Saying diesels last longer or that we even should have cars going into the future is based off your past and not the reality of net zero going into the future.

[@elbuggo]

@@antonyjh1234 China is burning 4.2 billion tons of coal each year, and increasing fast. India is right behind, and is increasing even faster. How do those facts affect the idea of your Net Zero?

[@andrewmorton3177]

You’re right enough! Only 1! 😳 I’ve got a 2015 335d touring that I’ve had for over 7 years, it’s fantastic & the longest by far that I’ve ever kept a car & I still have no intention of changing it. I suspect there is a lot of people doing exactly the same thing 🤔 On another point I’ve recently qualified for a motability car (bmw is being kept) & we’ve been going round the dealers the past couple of weeks, must have been in 7 or 8 different dealers Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Kia, Ford, Renault, MG & Nissan….. As it’s been a long time since buying a car I was fully preparing myself for a big push towards getting me in an EV but it hasn’t been like that. In fact only 2 salespeople mentioned EV (Renault & Nissan) to me & when I told them I wasn’t interested in an EV in the slightest both of them basically said “I don’t blame you” 🤦🏼‍♂️🤷‍♂️😂

[@chrishart8548]

I'm holding onto my diesel estate. They are virtually useless now so I'm just going to hold onto it. Everyone wants a petrol car so probably getting half the value for any diesel now. The euro 5 cars will be banned from everywhere soon. And the ones using add blue are more trouble than there worth.

[@andrewmorton3177]

@@chrishart8548 The 6 cylinder diesels still seem to be holding their own value wise at the moment. A m8 of mine just bought a 19 plate 335d because he liked mine so much & paid 26k (which is more than I paid for mine at 18months old) from a BMW dealer 😳 which I thought was a bit steep but after checking, it was around the going rate for a nice one. My car is an early LCI that according to the checker is Lez compliant but fortunately it’s not got adblue. Don’t know how that’s happened but I’m not going to complain 😂

[@chrishart8548]

@andrewmorton3177 sounds like you got lucky there. I keep getting told you can get euro 6 without add blue but it's not easy finding out. Most people I know bought diesel cars and later found out they had to put add blue in.

[@DwaynePipes]

I'm glad to hear about your Mobility buying experience. There are some people in the comments on this channel and others that insist on saying that EVs are being "forced" on clients by Mobility. However when challenged they can't actually substantiate the claims! Probably because they have no idea as to how the scheme actually works!😂

[@GeeBeeMike]

2006 A6 3.0TDi Quattro Le Mans here. Bought new by me. Cost me less that £2k in parts in almost 18 years excluding tyres and brakes and oils. Best car I’ve ever had. Starts on the button every time. Never broken down. Can do 700 miles on a rank of gas with full 4 wheel drive in the worst of weathers. Looks like new, drives like new. …..here’s to the next 18 years motoring in it! You can shove your EV where the sun don’t shine.

[@sarcasmunlimited1570]

It's simple. Electric mobility can only work for light things, like phones and electric bikes (and even then there is risk of fire). The number of battery cells required to power heavy things multiplies the risk of fire by that many times, while decreasing the energy available by the ratio of the weight of the total vehicle (including the battery) by the weight of the battery.

[@mikeolly67]

I bought a brand new Hyundai Santa Fe diesel in 2021, after dealer discount and a deposit contribution it was £33000. Now it’s done 32000miles and is worth £28500. I went to Hyundai to look at the new Santa Fe, it’s a hybrid only and £55000 for an equivalent spec to what I’ve got, it’s also unable to tow a caravan, which is the main reason I bought mine in 2021. So now I have 2 choices, 1. Fork out £26500 to change to a car that is incapable of doing what I need it to do. 2. Keep the car I’ve got which is perfect for my needs. 🤔

[@davidwatts3495]

The agony of choice 😎

[@stevewhitmill2037]

You know the answer. Keep yours.

[@Belfreyite]

People buy new cars because they are hooked into the status crap. Most of them are shallow. There are a number of highly reliable cars out there, in particular Japanese, that will just go on and on with regular maintenance. I've very little sympathy for anyone who wastes their money for sheer vanity. These people have no environmental credentials whatever.

[@NJTRAF]

One thing to remember around the overall Used Car market here in the U.K. was the Government Scrappage Scheme which ran from 2009-2010 to try to boost the economy by giving you £2000 off a brand new car by scrapping your old one. If I remember correctly, that lead to either 400,000 cars being scrapped (or thereabouts) And they weren’t bangers either! You had to have owned it for 1 year, and it had to have a Valid MOT. That removed 400,000 possible Used Cars from the market, which in turn has killed the Used Car market in the U.K. because the prices have gone up a lot! I started driving in 2003, my first car was a Fiat Uno, I bought it for £100. In 2004 I bought a VW Polo for £800 and in 2006 I bought a MK III VW Golf GTI for £1200. Not flashy cars, obviously, and even my Golf was 12 years old by the time I bought it… but if you compare that to a 2012 VW Golf GTI now you’re looking at anything from £6,000-£15,000 if you want one that’s not been in a major accident and had massive repairs, or one that’s done less that 100,000 miles

[@Phiyedough]

I once pretended to be a normal human but I was not very convincing.

[@fredfred2363]

Yes yes, and how much CO2 does a normal human emit over a week? So a whole family actually emits more CO2 than a car driven for an hour. Think about it.

[@ddoherty5956]

@@fredfred2363 Yeah, the thing I don't get is why they want to get rid of cows and sheep, but say nothing about cats dogs etc. well except for the fact we are the carbon they want to cut

[@Starlight22215]

I didn’t bother trying. Who wants to be normal?

[@RickBlaine]

@@fredfred2363 Normal? I can't imagine haw awful that would be!

[@Jules-kv2sf]

They're making cars bad on purpose, making cars expensive to buy and run on purpose and not ficing the roads on purpose, if you drive anywhere now it takes twice as long as it used to due to cameras everywhere and roadworks that are not fixing but bodging, all done to stop you and put you off having a car and going anywhere

[@loonaticsrunningtheassylum]

Plus every bellend and their brother has bought a fashion statement SUV that's far too big for our roads and car parks. There's only ever them in it.... Oh and their massive ego 🙄.... Traffic queues would be half the size if people bought the car they actually needed rather then the one to.. impress strangers/neighbours

[@sullivanrachael]

They want us ‘working at home’ and not leaving it.

[@victoriahamilton6939]

Yep. Stuck in our delightful 15 min cities! I agree too

[@RichardASK]

Pretty well hits all the bases there!

[@GallAnonim-jx2cz]

I live in China and EV+PHEV reached 52% of the market. They are selling great and nothing can stop it. The difference is in China we have low prices and true competition on car market. Actually best selling category is long range PHEVs, something that doesn't even exist in the west 😅.

[@theodorgiosan2570]

You should look at the market in the US as a comparison. Because it might be even stranger. There are brand new EVs that are heavily discounted. There are also Teslas with 100,000 miles or more. There are also tons of new gas cars at ridiculously high prices that nobody is buying. The distances driven are much higher and there are many more cars so there's a lot more to look at. If 10,000 miles a year is normal for a business driver in the UK, that's pretty average or even low for a personal car in the US. I drive around 50,000 miles a year in my personal car (1979 Subaru DL) That's high but not so unusual I think. My friend drives around 35,000 miles per year in his 1982 Oldsmobile Toronado diesel, which has 650,000 miles on it.

[@turokforever007]

If the US went all EV it will be a S show.

[@fredfred2363]

Even on Ebay there are so many Evs for sale, with just a few miles on the clock. There's a 'new' Honda E advance with just 1mile, for the same price as a private seller's 2YO 13,000 miler. It really shows how people are dumping leccy cars. Great vid!

[@topmarques]

I’m in transit in Dubai and got picked up from the airport in a Tesla Y. The driver told me the 500km indicated full charge range on his car becomes 200km when it’s hot (like today, 43c outside)

[@Applepie409]

Doesn’t like the cold either.

[@finesoul677]

I’d be worried about sitting inside a ticking time bomb. Can you imagine the heat stress that big ass battery is under in that heat in places like that.

[@KristijanBelosevic]

About the BMW 330e...I've owned one for 2 years in Croatia. If you do short distances and charge it regularly you will almost never have to visit the gas station. When the battery runs out you still get around 5,5l/100 economy in hybrid mode while driving like most of the people do. However, if you do long distances on a motorway this is where a diesel has a clear advantage because you don't get much regen. My economy on a motorway doing 180-230km/h was just under 10l/100km. So it's perfect for some people and a bad choice for the others, it all depends on how and where you use it. Oh, and did I mention that it goes like hell. 😊

[@jamesbull890]

Back in the 1980's my brother in law had a small haulage firm and he had two VW Transporters the first did 350.000 in under three years and the second did over 400.000 in three and a half years they were both serviced privately and sometimes driven by different drivers for days at a time just stopping long enough for a check over top up and off all over the UK. Can't see any EV managing that sort of use because time off the road for whatever reason is money lost. Five to fifteen minutes for fuel and bog break and off you go, EV hour plus to charge and then looking for the next charge point 😂😂.

[@David-tt2mt]

Very soon, it really will be cheaper to buy a used EV, run it for a year or two, then take it to the local tip. With a note on the windscreen telling them to invoice the gov who forced these on the motoring public.😂

[@liberty0758]

I'd only get one if they paid me first, and after I'm done with it they pay me to get rid of it.

[@michaeledwards8079]

I currently lease an EV, list price is £34,000, it is now exactly one year old, 3560 miles on the clock, it is now been valued at Between £13500 to £15000 and there is one on autotrader with less miles for £15490, HPI clear glad I will not be taking the hit on depreciation next year

[@oliver90owner]

Just carry on driving it. It cannot depreciate ate that rate for long, can it?

[@ollyrukes]

@@oliver90ownerhe doesn’t need to. He’s leasing it so depreciation is irrelevant.

[@ace_55581]

Yes, it comes up as 1. But the 320d is a MHT and of those there’s 88. It’s a diesel engine with a tiny lithium battery that doesn’t provide any electric only drive. It’s merely there to smooth out start/stop and pad out the power curve with a little 8hp boost to negate the turbo lag.

[@neilwhite9826]

Exactly. The ‘Fuel Type’ of the 320D on AutoTrader after 2021 is ‘Diesel Hybrid’ because it has the BMW Mild Hybrid Technology.

[@ace_55581]

@@neilwhite9826 which is a tad misleading in my book. It’s not a hybrid. It runs exclusively on diesel.

[@colingenge9999]

Once you get beyond 4 numbers, people’s brains fog up. Hard to make a point. Saying numbers is worse than showing numbers.

[@rogerthedodger5788]

😂😂😂

[@nat75kemp]

Morning Geoff, whow awesome research , im still driving a 2003 yaris one litre , still goes , can still get parts ..... zero pollution. .... i think their mechanism is broke not ours , goodluck with the loonacy .

[@martynromaine8518]

I would rather have no car at all if the only choice was an EV

[@tonylittle3508]

That is their plan.

[@rosen9425]

I'm not falling for that trap, the choice is not binary according to their rules. I'll channel my inner american and copy the 2nd amendment if I have to. And import a US V8 while at it 😆

[@dougsaunders8109]

I am a EV business user. If the government removes the EV incentive come 30 October, budget day, no business user will have one. Costs a fortune to roadside charge, against 10p a mile chargeable back against business miles

[@esm7708]

@@dougsaunders8109 you're forgetting about home charging

[@DS9FANINDADEFIANT]

That's why buisness users (like mine) have installed EV charging at work so you destination charge. Even the guys in sales have enough range on their EV to destination charge at my work. I've only ever "topped up" at rapid chargers, and only then enough to get myself home

[@esm7708]

@@dougsaunders8109 exactly

[@paul756uk2]

My son in law is a partner in a company and one of the directors has a Taycan on lease. Well, they must be losing money on it as he's only paying something like 400 quid a month when you account for the subsidies and that includes tyres and servicing.

[@esm7708]

@@paul756uk2 well that's net deductions rather than gross. By subsidy I think you're referring to the 2% tax rate on company cars that are electric. £400 a month for a Taycan? I thought EVs were u affordable eh...

[@martinhudson2552]

Brilliant video as always. I have done my research and am sticking to our two petrol cars and my old Zsara Picasso 2.0 hdi diesel. I am in the process of spending a few hundred pounds on this car. New rear axle. Repairs to sills and front brakes. I’m a cheap skate and it still works out far cheaper to repair my old Picasso that I’ve owned for 7 years than to buy another car and having a car on PCP or finance is out of the question.

[@LeonieHall-c4o]

Thankyou for doing all that research. I have never found math class so riveting. Pity the political class can't count. Or read. Or logic

[@summittodo]

I've got a 2015 BMW 520d touring..£35 road tax, 45 mpg in town and 60 mpg on the motorway... best car I've owned..drives like a dream and it's ULEZ

[@DougalR]

Its begs the question though... why are there 40.000 EVs for sale with virtually sod miles on... People have discovered how bad they are.... As for the BMW 320d... well its clear people are keeping hold of them as they are brilliant...

[@DS9FANINDADEFIANT]

No its because the 320d is a hybrid past 2021. The reason why there are alot of EVs is because there are alot of cars on sale this time of year, it won't be till the end of next month that you'll start to see that change again. As for EVs being shit, as a car enthusiast that has many cars, EVs are far from shit, the infrastructure is.

[@ChubbaStun]

BMW is a life guarantee of making you busy fixing it.

[@rosen9425]

@@DS9FANINDADEFIANT And where will that end-of-month change come from? A revolutionary re-discovering of absolutely nothing leading to a mass buying of EVs? 👀okay

[@piquat1]

Its not the raw numbers, its the percentages of them. Nobody wants them, because they're trash in comparison.

[@finesoul677]

@@DS9FANINDADEFIANTas Clarkson said, “Ev’s are just shit” End of conversation.

[@ceriwilliams6931]

I dont actually need a car as have free use of customers cars, but I can see 2nd hand values rocketing in the next few yrs. I prefer old cars, so bought a 2000 Celica this week while they are still cheap. 180k runs like a dream.

[@CarlosFandango1975]

Best advert to sell your diesel estate for big money and get yourself a cheap premium EV I’ve heard, cheers Geoff👍🏼

[@paulinglis2976]

Brilliant show, geoff. Everyone needs to know this

[@Cotictimmy]

I was going to say that there's NO WAY I'd buy a battery EV, but Kier Starmer's government appears to be very authoritarian-minded, and intolerant of diversity - so who knows what I might be forced into when a financial gun is pointed straight at my head? As a freedom-loving citizen-voter, I'm screwed because the current Tories are weak, useless, woke, for mass immigration, & Net Zero (in practical terms barely different than Labour) - so voting for them in their current form is of no help whatsoever.

[@hadtobe4502]

The rot started long before this Government.

[@JamesWilliam70]

Political parties... The illusion of choice under the same system.

[@esm7708]

@@Cotictimmy intolerant of diversity? So the ones putting the windows through of Shoezone were Labour voters?

[@loonaticsrunningtheassylum]

There's your problem.... Your gullible enough to think "voting" is anything but theatre to distract the peasants. The entire system is corrupt to the core. We'll never vote our way out of tyranny that's been obvious to me for at least the last 30 y

[@amazer747]

that's why patriotic sensible people vote REFORM

[@RobinOsborne2312]

We have a 3yr old Mercedes CLS 300 Diesel 4-matic with only 11,00 miles on it which we have owned since new. The car was recently in the dealership for its annual service and they have since been on the phone to us numerous times offering an extremely high part-exchange price against any new car. We are not accepting any of their offers and are keeping our car for many years to come. We took out the service plan and Mercedes extended warranty (which is very good by the way - previous experience) so should have no surprise large repair bills. Great channel Geoff.

[@jamesbowskill362]

Yup ! I have had the same phone call from my local MB dealer offering a 'very good s/hand deal' on a new ev in exchange for my 6 year old E220 Cabrio.......NO TAKERS.!

[@davearmstrong2296]

Great research Geoff. By the way, the original Saabs were a really great car. The 95 Aero was the downhill design for Saab and was no near as good as the Saab 9000.

[@forrestrobin2712]

I’d agree with you on the post 2006 "Dame Edna" but not in the first generation. Great cars, I’ve had 2 and would willingly take another if I could find one. I currently have a 2004 estate. The "sweet spot" for me is 2003-2005 production.

[@johnrose-mh5mc]

Thanks for the stats,I think I will stick with my 1923 Ford model T!

[@suecharnock9369]

Ha ha. When my 2013 x trail finally dies, I will be heading to the classic market too. Although I am expecting those vehicles to be rather expensive by then!

[@mikegarvey5948]

Geoff, the news seems to be more and more car manufacturers are stopping building EV’s. So if, when we get to 2030, there are only Chinese EV’s, how will governments ensure only electrics are bought?

[@KovietUnionDefector]

Eat ze pet bugs time 2030!

[@LadyNuts]

I feel the IF

[@fredEVOIX]

they alread have started years ago, raise or create taxes on older cars, make them illegal to drive on the roads because too old, before that prevent them from entering towns highways etc...with fines (thus all your cameras) for example in my country they made "classics" unable to do more than x miles per year, forbidden to enter towns etc. because of noise and emissions

[@russcattell955i]

Try protest & civil disobedience. The French are very good at it.

[@SierraNovemberKilo]

You'll be in a 15 minute ghetto - if you survive the culling. Electro/magnetic fencing aka geofencing will control your movements whether on foot or on/in any wheeled conveyance.

[@christopherdavies8839]

I own a 2013 BMW 320d eco motion and get 63 miles per gallon. Ive owned it from just under three years old. It has never, i repeat never gone wrong and is the best car i have ever owned. 2013 model now with 115,000 miles. Its incredible.

[@chrissmith2114]

Volvo did a big study a few years ago on 'break even mileage', and because they were building both ICE and EV in the same factory they were in an ideal position to do it. They said 80,000 to 100,000 is the break even point depending how the EV is charged... and they are proper engineers, not EVangelists, ICE enthusiasts or greenies, or politicians

[@urmasterjohn]

Volvo’s study used kilometres not miles as was misquoted in this video. 110k KM for a global energy mix 77k KM for a typical EU mix, converted to miles that’s 68k and 48k respectively; much closer to the news article’s figures.

[@k9killer221]

If this video is just the result of your brief research and is sort of on the fly, I can't wait for the next video. THIS video is one of the most interesting and informative I've ever seen on the EV market. Very well done. PS: I just watched it again.

[@nickjp264]

The service to the public the Geoff Buys channel provides is off the scale… to fact-check this would be churlish… thank you 👍

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

The very fact that you don’t “fact check” this clickbait scammer is the very reason he can continue to garner revenue from YT for his clickbait, deliberate misinformation.

[@motormad750]

It's true Geoff, it took nearly 18months to find the black diesel estate car I bought last week and very few cars came up for sale that were any good.

[@joetodd7944]

Public transport is no good if you work shifts you either can't get there or get back

[@FlyingFun.]

I can buy a pre reg so brand new EV in pretty much any flavour I want for half price and yet ( even though I secretly do like the idea of an EV and it would actually suit our situation) I still can't make myself part with £15k for any car let alone one that has serious range limitations and very questionable depreciation/lifespan. My honda civic does 60 to 70mpg no hybrid tech to go wrong😊

[@DS9FANINDADEFIANT]

I've owned 6 cars over the course of 10 years, (2 of which are electric, and both I still have, I also havemy Honda civic type R and honda crv) I will say to you this, if you buy an EV, if you can charge at home (this is important) you'll never regret an EV. They've been more reliable, cheaper to run, better performance and for (ironic) longer journeys, just easier to drive. If you get a second hand EV with 300 miles of range, which I'll admit are mostly teslas right now, if you do any serious kind of mileage (I do 25000 a year as a service guy) then youll earn back any depreciation or fuel cost in how cheap the electric is. (I pay 7p per kwh on a night time charge tariff)

[@RogueTrader-]

You should see the price of the VW Transporter E's. They cost over 50k new and you can pick them up from dealers (not even private sellers) for under 10k with less than 10'000 miles on the clock. So the buyer has lost about £5 per mile. I would consider one but they only have a real range of 45/ 50 miles which is unusable even locally. I dont even know how they managed to get 10'000 miles on them in a few years, it must have been a nightmare having to constantly pamper it to use everyday.

[@dizzydella1]

Just looked, cheapest one is 16,000

[@RogueTrader-]

@@dizzydella1 There's plenty of wiggle room in there, offer £10k. You'll be driving home in one, well at least 45 miles of it.

[@mpersad]

Geoff, whether he likes it or not, is fast approaching national treasure status!

[@XX-el4bv]

Already has! 💪

[@Penninebloke56]

DEFUND THE BBC, VOTE REFORM, DON'T BUY AN EV....!

[@lukemclellan2141]

Two out of three ain't bad

[@John-hf5hi]

And k- starmer

[@logicumkapernicus7919]

​@lukemclellan2141 What, You'd keep the BBC !!!😮

[@showmytime9177]

BBC? that means Big Bla... Coc.

[@highdownmartin]

@@John-hf5hihe’s already knighted.

[@maalmaha]

What I want as a normal human. That bit got me😂

[@timjackson1904]

I saw some comments about how EV's become carbon neutral in relatively few miles. I think these figures are based on what people want to see...why? because world oil production increased by 1% in 2023 and gas by 0.7%in 2023 (and continues). Given motor users/manufacturers (and supply chains) are resposible for a large part of this and the world economy is in recession, I surmise that a lot is being ignored to push the narrative.

[@elbuggo]

Global oil consumption has increased with 10% since 2010 or so. Even when cars are using less fuel per mile, and also added a lot of EVs to the car park. For some reason, the global oil production is still increasing. How come? China is also burning 4.2 billion tons of coal each year, to manufacture the EV batteries, among other things.

[@DS9FANINDADEFIANT]

Manufacturing (of any kind) is mostly electricity, that is why car manufacturers have to work out where they want to manufacture to be "green" Most EVs are mined, manufacturered, and built in coal producing economies (china) so it makes sense that EVs are worse, however china is a world leader in renewables and within the next decade may be approaching carbon neutral. I think the important thing to realise is, EVs can get greener the more EVs you have, (transport etc) A combustion engine always will burn gasoline/diesel, you can't stop that fact. So you'll never make them much greener over a 10 year lifespan.

[@timjackson1904]

@@DS9FANINDADEFIANT I limited the scope of my comment since the talk is of EV's. But the idea of carbon neutral is pie in the sky because we (the world population) will use crude oil , natural gas, wood and coal till they run out on economic reasons. All of the products in our economy are dependent on crude oil and gas, the chemicals in the EV battery, the plastics within cannot be recycled due to loss of properties so will use 'carbon'. Tell women to only have enough clothes to fit in a suitcase and 2 pairs of shoes. so they can reduce their carbon footprint! All the drugs we depend on rely on chemicals made from crude oil. The sensible thing to do would be to go nuclear asap to 'spin them out'. I laugh at the 'stop oil' faction who dont turn up to demonstrate wearing leather and wool having arrived on horseback. But they are often seen clutching their 'plastic' bottle of water. The lack of understanding of the knock on effects of carbon neutrality is shown by the fact that most of the EV batteries and motors RM's come from china and the US is trying to start an economic/kinetic war with them. The chinese had a policy in 1958 that lacked thought, when they decided to kill all the sparrows because they eat grain. The result was a locust plague and starvation that killed 15-40million. Our politicians are not STEM graduates, oh and generally corrupt.

[@suecharnock9369]

Oh yes, absolutely. The whole ev story is absolutely full of ‘convenient’ statistics! I don’t believe any of it.

[@rosen9425]

@@DS9FANINDADEFIANT China being carbon neutral? oh they are so absolutely not on track to be that. They love telling the world about such things and everyone believes them for some reason. Fact: China is the unequivocal global leader in CO2 emission on the planet @ 12.6 gigatons/yr, _and_ rapidly climbing not decreasing, outpacing everyone else by a stupid margin The rest of the entire world would have to cut their emission by at least half to offset one country, and that's an immediate right now action. More likely by 80% in the medium term. Ludacris claims from whoever is pushing that about China. But there's an even bigger problem here. It would require several countries to go net zero carbon forever. Uh-oh doesn't that sound very familiar 😳 yeah, the rest of the world goes zero carbon while China keeps on keeping on. What a strange "coincidence" 😑

[@reececollison5101]

Love this style of video Geoff, just plain hard facts and evidence with no flimflam

[@NeilKinnerley]

Yep just 1 straight diesel Geoff, It appears that the 320d moved to a mild hybrid in 2021 157 of those for sale

[@fluffycotton4683]

Brilliant channel Geoff, can’t argue with FACTS, EVs are a joke, even SStarmer more popular than them.

[@zingzangwallawalla]

I'm happy with my 1997 Nissan Elgrand 3.2 diesel. It's just passed 100k, and im looking forward to many more miles. If diesel is banned, I'll run it on veg oil :)

[@itisabird]

I just checked a Spanish site. There are 6,000 electric cars on sale of which 2,000 have less than 2,500 KMS (1,600 miles). There it goes the "green" fallacy...

[@voivod6871]

Why are they less green just because they are being sold while still low mileage?

[@urmasterjohn]

This doesn’t disprove anything, the cars don’t just disappear once they’re being sold on with low mileage. Someone else will buy it and continue to drive it just like any other car.

[@cjpnaturally1867]

Easy to see why I had no trouble selling my diesel Panda last spring. Anyone who does enough miles to warrant one, knows that diesels are the best! I never would have let it go if my commute wasn't just 3 miles each way - it wasn't liking that - but it's new owner does loads of miles and loves it 🐼 💙

[@eddthirty4065]

you're the ideal case for an EV !

[@cjpnaturally1867]

No thanks! I like to own my cars and don't do debt, I save up and get something with character, that I can fall in love with and keep for donkeys years... Don't usually spend over 3 grand 😊

[@eddthirty4065]

@@cjpnaturally1867 So do I. I bought a Nissan Leaf 10 years ago. Still have it, done 72k miles in it. Don't owe a penny on it. Still does 70 miles on a charge. I've got a 2005 sporty car, weighs 850Kg and puts out 280bhp. Own that outright too.

[@fredEVOIX]

can't beat the Porsche story, they want you to buy three 161'400£ taycan "turbo S" EVs if you want to buy one 192'600£ GT3 RS in american terms a 484'200£ "dealer markup" 🤣 if you havent seen it Life imitates art: This EV cartoon was SPOOKILY accurate from mguy australia (fun fact my Focus RS has 100Nm more torque than the GT3 RS lol)

[@robertewins1112]

Interesting video. I just returned from a 400 mile trip to Northumberland in my 2019 BMW 330d which averaged 70 mpg before hitting the lake district. I was considering selling but now maybe not!

[@redpillnibbler4423]

70 is a lot! Keep it!

[@SuperDeadlen]

Don't sell it you'll regret it.

[@hamshackleton]

I have been thinking of exchanging my bank balance for a new car, before the government takes it off me - so looked on Car-Wow for a new diesel manual estate, red or blue colour, near me. I got ONE offer in my price range - in Basildon. I'm in Manchester! There were two in Europe, but as I don't have a passport - - ! (plenty of electric or hybrids) - - IF it stops raining, I'll be going round my various local dealers, to see what they have or can get!

[@graemejones9707]

There was a point you could write off 100% of the cost of an EV against your corporation tax. Rather than handing cash to the government, people bought these things and barely used them

[@zubeystinzen540]

Correction older diesel's last longer,your modern spec euro4 onwards are shockingly weak engines 👍

[@esm7708]

@@zubeystinzen540 Geoff often forgets that EU6 onwards are utter rubbish

[@suecharnock9369]

That will be the ‘adblue’. It is designed to eat the metals in the engine. Why I won’t have an adblue diesel. Inbuilt destruction with the con of improved efficiency/ emissions.

[@john1v6]

@@suecharnock9369 Yep. Adblue contains urea (a constituent of p*ss). Slowly rots hoses and metal components.

[@Jack-lo1uc]

​@suecharnock9369 the adblue isn't injected into the engine, only the exhaust

[@zubeystinzen540]

@@suecharnock9369 I'll stick with my Mk5 transit di, no ECU no turbo with a mechanical Bosch ve pump that'll run on anything 😂, it may be slow but it is a campervan & at my age speed is something that only mattered in my youth 😂👍

[@yoseagle6464]

The reason for this seems to be that BMW only sells Diesel X model cars not any hatchbacks, saloons or estates anymore which is complete madness, the reason given is falling demand 🤔

[@hamishlovesit4731]

Does this remind anyone of Sir Clive Sinclair C5 or whatever it was , but on a grand scale 😂

[@DanielW-x4v]

Didn't the whole diesel thing in Europe start to crumble after they were found to be not nearly as clean as advertised? It would account for a shift away from newer diesel sales

[@jonsnow6741]

And the losses on the EV cars only equate to a 2/3 bed terraced house in many areas . Can't think why workers can't afford one !

[@oliver90owner]

Buy second hand?

[@jonsnow6741]

@@oliver90owner The point was that the working man can no longer afford such items ! I have had second hand everything all my life .

[@oliver90owner]

@@jonsnow6741 Nothing stopping you buying a second hand EV is there? They cannot depreciate, at the rate you claim, forever? And I know that lots of ‘working class’ used to buy glittery new cars on hire purchase just to appear affluent. I note you qualify your claim with ‘many areas’. I have always paid for things, at the time of purchase, for the last 40 years (apart from the house on mortgage). New or second hand is immaterial. Second hand is recycling, these days, but many don’t consider it as such. I personally don’t care whether I buy new or second hand as long as the item serves its purpose. By the time I change (if ever I do) my EV, it will have likely depreciated to the lowest form of recycling. That would be far better value to me, with the full life cost of the vehicle. Far better than buying another fossil burner that not only depreciates but also pollutes both the local environment with noxious chemicals and the atmosphere (with carbon dioxide) and is likely to make life much more difficult for my grandchildren and their children. Selfishness is not a characteristic that I admire in people.

[@jonsnow6741]

@@oliver90owner spend 5 mins on auto trader and ebay the math is not difficult and I like my diesel car .

[@davidllewellyn5168]

Hi Geoffrey, You are really hitting the right button, you cannot ignore the numbers. As you say, as a normal bloke using your own hard earned cash, why would you buy an EV?

[@xDAAAZEx]

Even if you compare from 2020 over 100k miles: EV - 16, Diesel - 258, Petrol - 132.

[@minayowitz3268]

Well, the autotrader stats regarding EVs paint quite a devastating picture. Once the incentives are removed people literally ran away from them. I didn't Know many of the Ev on the rood are company cars. Thanks for making that point clear.

[@daveb2wright]

Hybrids don't make any sense as you said about the BMW. They will surely be on the government list to be culled along with all fossil fuel vehicles. Grrr!

[@6chhelipilot]

Hybrids are useless for people who travel mostly on faster roads. They work better in city environments.

[@bsimpson6204]

I’ve said this for years, why haul around both petrol and electric systems, makes no sense to me 🤷‍♂

[@loonaticsrunningtheassylum]

Can you locate the evidence that proves our fuels come from fossils please

[@DwaynePipes]

​​@@loonaticsrunningtheassylum Can you locate the evidence that shows how they are actually formed? Please.

[@michaelmcwilliams5403]

I think it depends on your use case. Most hybrids have short electric range so perfect for a grocery go getter. Then the odd road trip can still happen without planning your life around chargers.

[@goodplbad]

Will keeping my 17yrs old 2l x3 diesel. Maybe mpg its not great but with 114k on the clock so reliable. Doing service on my own every 10k, putting Miller oil and engine not taking oil, no leak. Can’t hear anything about owning newish car

[@chrismaund2134]

Brilliant video Geoff ,ev cars are shite ! I'll stick to my v8 petrol 😊

[@andrewmack2161]

Journalists should be asking the 'Pro-EV' politicians if they own/use/rely upon an EV themselves.

[@jonjo6886]

When you think about it, most people charge overnight. That means solar energy doesn't do anything for charging cars. So, unless it's wind, you are going to be using gas generated electricity. Biomass generated electric is a joke, worse than coal!

[@melvinholland9656]

I've had two EVs for two years. I also have solar and Powerwalls. I charge each vehicle overnight about every 7-10 days. It costs me zero dollars. My electricity bill is the grid tie-in minimum of $19/month for roughly 9 months a year (when it's not snowing). When it is snowing, I'm paying less than $10 to charge each vehicle. Road trip charging on the Tesla network takes 25 minutes every three hours and works flawlessly. And no, it hasn't burned the house down. For me, the convenience, acceleration, handling and little maintenance (washer fluid, tire rotation, etc.) is why I'll never go back to ICE. Perhaps EVs are not for you. Fair enough, drive what you like.

[@elbuggo]

@@melvinholland9656 How much has that Tesla depreciated in that period? Why are they depreciating so much? Why?

[@DS9FANINDADEFIANT]

​@@elbuggo Technology, ask the same about your mobile phone. A petrol or diesel car hasn't relitivistically improved since the 90s (unless you count eco shit) An EV is constantly improving year on year, so you get to a point where people are like.... if I just wait a little longer till it can do X.... then I'll get one. As a result EVs are cheap as piss and I drive a cheap EV that costs me nothing in electric or maintenece and Its hilarious.

[@Born_Stellar]

@@DS9FANINDADEFIANT if that was the case people would still be buying them. car lots full of 2023 models say otherwise.

[@DS9FANINDADEFIANT]

@Born_Stellar please tell me where you're seeing these 2023 plate cars? I've heard and seen car lots being filled with cars while waiting for shipping/delivery... however this is all cars. Teslas are flying off "shelves" and tbh with you, I couldn't care less about any other manufacturer other than bmw and the chinese brands for EVs right now, because most legacy auto is failing to create decent EVs, so you're seeing EV sales of these cars slowing, If their sales are shit, that's their own fault for driving home the fact that EVs are shit for 15 years. Unfortunately, they can crash and burn for all I care.

[@Mrxiamclassicx]

One reason for the high number of Taycans is that to access the elite Porsche models, buyers often need to purchase multiple Taycans first. Many of them buy these cars and immediately resell them without even driving them, sometimes owning 4-10 Taycans just to secure the more exclusive models.

[@simonmillard8337]

Only 1 for sale, I checked. 😂 Good work Geoff.

[@olivethrush7450]

I went to a grand meeting of EV Fanatics. They made me their leader.

[@eartheart3694]

The first 5 comments were spam. They are very keen, aren't they.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Seeing more and more of em

[@Jonny_The_Organism]

Not supposed to notice..

[@SierraNovemberKilo]

​@@GeoffBuysCarsIt's the only employment opps for the yoof these days. After all they've been raised to be keyboard warriors, ain't they.

[@RigmodsModding]

Bro I subbed at under 1000 subs, you are cooking the algo man well done!

[@markbray2988]

Brilliant! I love facts, you cant argue with facts... Great video Geoff

[@suecharnock9369]

Just be very careful about statistics, especially by someone peddling their view (evs and their spontaneous combustion rates being one)

[@urmasterjohn]

Some of these facts are just straight up wrong, you can Google the Volvo study yourself for instance and see the figures were in kilometres not miles; that’s a massive difference to the arguments that follow.

[@willrogers3702]

You know why there’s so few for sale with high mileage? It’s because most are company cars, and all the higher mileage company car drivers are avoiding them. I had a 2020 Tesla 3 as a company car, it was great for short journeys in covid to a local site but useless for a thing else. Now Im fully field based, almost nobody has an EV because there’s no affordable EV that can carry all our tools and do 200+ miles in winter. The only people with EVs are managers who barely drive anywhere. They just enjoy the perks of almost free motoring.

[@VelEire_]

No surprise they’ve no mileage look at the EU numbers, certain % of sales per manufacturer must be electric etc climbing every year until 2030… they’re pre registering them to stop fines from eu

[@john1v6]

UK is not in EU but I take your point.

[@tims9434]

Excellent content Geoff. Much appreciated 🙏

[@blsboom-ff1fq]

How much do they pay you to take over an EV with over 100’000 miles?!