What Players Really THINK about the Hero Equipment Balancing Changes (Clash of Clans)

[@SharyK-_0]

I'm not angry about balancing, I'm worried about what is gonna happen after this. They'll do the same thing what CR does, make them op stuff, nerf ,release more op stuff

[@KennyJoGaming]

let's hope not.

[@ayushbarua6797]

​@@KennyJoGamingSpiky Ball nerf gave me heart attack . I have all epic maxed now even magic mirror is level 26 I didn't complain about any equipment nerf but Spiky Nerf 😠 is unnecessary

[@goldenlol5354]

@@ayushbarua6797 Of course it was necessary, every single one of the nerfs were. There is no debate around it.

[@elnewbie2611]

​@@goldenlol5354 Warden ethereal tome is an unnecessary nerf because it defeats the whole purpose of the warden main ability

[@Nu1InYourHearts]

@@ayushbarua6797I don’t even use it and I agree

[@indian_shreyansh626]

The problem is not nerfing, the problem is them not balancing them out before release. Also, they are releasing so much equipment, I believe we should get only 2 epic and 2 common equipment per year or 2 years. It makes upgrading and enjoying the equipment even more accessible to majority players

[@David-m8z]

Max players can not defend at all

[@kaitok1d731]

I agree with everything except for 2 commons, more commons, less epics! Commons are very easy to upgrade unlike epics due to starry ore scarcity and abundance of glowy and blue ore

[@indian_shreyansh626]

@@kaitok1d731 I see your point, I think that the players getting more time with a equipment is the right way

[@LetsArctix]

I agree but, how should they be able to balance the equipment before the release if they don‘t know how it‘s used, win rates etc.

[@indian_shreyansh626]

@@LetsArctix they have so big team they can release it as a beta test to creators and proplayers launch it in specific regions maybe if needed to see the player base response

[@DreadLock835]

As a f2p player i say that in order for the community to forgive supercell abt those nerfs we need a good content in the update that is not directed for th16 , and a way to make ore grinding easier and easier

[@Ilysage]

I agree 100 percent as someone that’s been playing this game since I was 13-14 years old (I’m 24 now) and been a f2p.

[@David-m8z]

Max players are defenseless

[@Hamza20078]

💯 percent true Update would make sense if the ore situation was handled better

[@KungFuWizardOfJesus]

@@Ilysage what th are you now?

[@tristanvliet]

Yeah definitely that would definitely take the sting a lot I came back to the game a week ago and immediately bought the frost arrow and then paid a lot of money that I didn't exactly have only for them too say they are nerfimg it in September

[@potato0fdoom267]

I think a good solution would be if they implemented a refund system for equipment. Let people get all the resources back that we put into something so we could adjust to balance changes and not feel like we wasted our resources.

[@Gravy4]

If they're nerfing equipment, might as well nerf the costs of ore to upgrade equipment

[@samirkamjo]

Supercell also should reduce gem cost when we buy equipement

[@tharunraghav9744]

They definitely won't reduce the cost now. But how about reducing the cost after 1 year of release of equipment

[@skeptikmavi6743]

Yeah 1000 would be good

[@samirkamjo]

@@skeptikmavi6743 no 600 is good because game doesnt give you 1000 in 3 or 4 month

[@thegamingking1972]

Exactly, imagine a new player wanting to try out new equipment, guess what he'll have to pay around 10k gems to get them all

[@darkness.gaming]

Honestly if they just removed ores system from the game and made Hero equipment upgradable through gold, elixir and dark elixir it would make everyone happy including new and returning players. I honestly dont see myself coming back to playing coc if the current ores system continues.

[@thibaudda]

Exactly, that's the main point. We didn't need a new currency system, this only exist as a way to force players to play everyday and to incite them more and more to pay when they cannot follow

[@vaibhavgupta8681]

I left COC 2 years after playing it for 4 years and now that I see it now, they are making it more and more premierised.

[@Rizzmon1405]

I mean its not a bad thing to balance things, but do you think they didnt play test these equipments hundreds of times to make sure they are not op and are actually balanced. My only point was that all of this is intentional from supercell rather than "we are listetning to the community🤓" thing. Why did they nerf eternal tomb after 10 long years just before a next big townhall level ? Because they can just add back these nerfed stats as new levels for the new equipments levels to get maximum profit. Earning money out of game design and the core gameplay that is attacking is really bad and didnt expect from clash of clans devs atleast

[@SUTH_33]

good comment

[@alicepbg2042]

do you think everything is caught in playtest?

[@ayushbarua6797]

Correct 💯%

[@Rizzmon1405]

@@alicepbg2042 I dont care, its their responsibility. Nobody told them to release a new equipment every month or two

[@ludwigxvii356]

No, playtest aren't enough, balancing in every game it's always done whatching the players use the new stuff

[@devilhex2802]

Supercell doing damage control by forcing youtubers who earn money from them to make videos defending them 💀

[@Not_Laci]

Imo to ease the tension amongst the community, supercell could give us the option to deduct all ores out of all equipment ONCE (a button that says "reset all equipment") after the update. That way if players feel cheated out of money, they can just pour their resources into different equipments. SC can still release new broken equipment after which would still bring in money.

[@arceus756]

Very polite way of saying you are afraid of supercell

[@shady5923]

Yeah his opinion is always biased even itzu is also biased

[@saphymew4627]

I can't say I blame him, Supercell has developed a reputation for silencing their critics with copyright claims​@@shady5923

[@arceus756]

@@shady5923 every content creator now a days biased..can't do anything about it

[@shortsoflaughter1]

Exactly, and why wouldn't they? At the end of the day, they are paid for it. And Jo didn't reply or liked this comment even. The thing is, suoercell is intensionally doing such things and paying creators to make contents on their side. If not, they have the card of "copyright" to play with...

[@revenge977]

How? He literally said that he doesn't like where this is going? He couldve just defended the situation and got closer to supercell.

[@YOUR-BRAIN-IS]

They nerf healing and eternal tomb for the upcoming heroic torch so everyone can put their money on it and they will nerf that torch again

[@Rolex77512]

My only problem is that i have to play and farm so much as a th14, these upgrades are so expensive and are relatively short

[@gamingsatt]

yes in the long run they want you to grind more and spend more time which is kind of stupid in my opinion

[@modelname]

I gave up the game when I was in th15. Without time, effort and gold pass, it’s hard to play at th15

[@0LLy796]

We know what the immediate future is going to look like. Heroic torch and Electro boots. The former is almost definitely going to be a direct replacement for a couple of equipment that JUST got nerfed

[@Rizzmon1405]

Yep, so people will actually care to upgrade them cause they will most likely be better than the current nerfed equipment. Or how they nerfed hogs and haste because people were using them instead of using epic equipment

[@SharyK-_0]

Also super archer puppet and a tome that release skeletons after troops dies

[@0LLy796]

@@SharyK-_0 this is new to me😂

[@0LLy796]

@@SharyK-_0 seen just one video of the super archer puppet and even that was unimpressive. Can't even find anything about the other leaked equipment

[@s.......]

​@0LLy796 yeah super archers outside of the blimp are useless

[@ivantxic7870]

KennyJo: Hero equipment is pay to progress Supercell: I think he meant “make hero equipment pay to win”

[@David-m8z]

With the complete lack of defense…ALL attack 3 star…. The game balance sucks

[@tharunraghav9744]

​@@David-m8zwhy not just buff defenses ? No one would've complained

[@David-m8z]

@@tharunraghav9744 All defenses need a 10% boost and the attacker would STILL be grotesquely overpowered

[@tezzaskayakfishing]

Supercell don’t care. The last 6 months have shown they only care about money. There’s so many bugs as well. Hire a bigger team throw out a worse game but make more cash. Coc is about to die big time.

[@andreasaltmann1972]

2:17 630 purple Ore cost $5,99 same offer in Germany is 6,99€ Thx Supercell

[@gurmanbrar1278]

Thanks Kenny for raising our voice. If big creators like you speak about the negatives of the game and make our problems reach the devs... A huge Respect....

[@MaxItAllNoww]

The problem is they kept GG op for so long and as soon as they are releasing new equipments they nerf the old ones so that we have to get those bcs if not we are going to fall behind. It's clearly Buisness.😶

[@dineshsinghkshatri6573]

I think around 70% of the player base are not hardcore sweats (endearingly) who spend all their time on the game, but regular working people who wants to have some relaxation, so now you are taking that away and telling him/her to spend more time and resources here if you want that relaxation AND THATS NOT FAIR

[@supersonic4429]

I feel like people are overreacting to the nerfs themselves. I doubt a 5% nerf to the giant gauntlet will change much about the meta. The bigger issue is the precedent that this sets of releasing op equipment and nerfing them later. Supercell should focus on releasing equipment in a balanced state while also slowing down their release after the gw and rc get their second epic equipments.

[@jackdarrow3011]

actually, i used to use giant gauntlet when it had the bug with eternal tome. it was the best seeing the king didnt die. after the bugs getting fixed i didnt use giant gauntlet anymore. keep using spiky and vamstace

[@Manva-te4cq]

Come out of your stupid comfort zone of positivity and think of the bigger picture. They nerfed all the equips that most of the resource + TIME + money was spend on and buffed all others. Doesn't this sound bad to you. Helllooooo?

[@mikidelasislas]

I think the overreaction is a reflection of the problem with the ore economy and not with the nerfs themselves. Unpopular take but for me it's about time we get the equips nerfed. For one, you can 3-star high TH levels with the OG abilities using the right strategy. For another, what's the point of setting up base designs with good defence if you get 3-starred anyways by players with rushed heroes but with maxed equipment? My biggest gripe right now is the lack of nerfs to the most commonly spammed troops and the lack of buffs to defences. I get that they're trying to appeal to casual players, but I find it annoying that I try to set up a good base only to get 3-starred most of the time by Edrag- and RR-spammers with Rage-Gemmed GW as support (my base isn't rushed btw). Also, it's about time they get the ore economy fixed. For starters, how about an ore mine that at max level produces 14.2 ShO and 1.4 GO per day, then have it placed in the BB? If they're generous enough, why not also make it produce 0.3 StO per day? That way, not only it increases BB playability, but also it frees up the Trader from having to give GO each and every week. I'd rather have a free TP for trophy push/farming than a bunch of stones.

[@khaled-tk-14waled21]

They should make a "ore reset function" so players can enjoy different equipments without the need to waste ore

[@thibaudda]

Well in this case they better just remove the ore system entirely... Which would actually make a lot of sense considering that everything in the game was previously upgradable with normal ressources. But of course they wouldn't do that since the main goal of this new currency system is in fact to push people to play everyday and make them willing to pay more and more since it's almost impossible to keep it up

[@ericleal4931]

let's be real, that is never going to happen. honestly they just need to make ores less scarce and available enough for people to feel they can always get more without having to spend months to get where they need to be as far as upgrading their equipment. it won't feel nearly as much of a waste if you could get the ores in half the time it used to take

[@CheeseMan_13]

I can really appreciate your honesty with this video man, good to see a transparent creator

[@King_Vangelis]

The way I would fix it is give us ore mines. They could put it in the builder base to give it some value. Getting shiny, glowly and starry ore passively would be awesome.

[@thibaudda]

Just remove the ore system entirely then. We could just upgrade the equipments with normal currencies from the main village or the builder base like we used to do for absolutely everything until this new unwanted currency system came out. The only purpose of this new system for Supercell is to give us an incentive to play everyday, and push us to pay when we cannot keep up.

[@King_Vangelis]

@@thibaudda The solution would be very simple. Make the ore mines kinda similar to the gem mine. Where you can get it passively but it is pretty slow. That way it keeps the value of the ores a good amount.

[@thibaudda]

@@King_Vangelis The main difference with other resources is that you can't farm them. You need to play every day. That's why the mechanic exists. Making you play, not because you want to, but because you have to in order to maxed out your equipments which, very conveniently, happen to increase in number every two months. And now they even get nerfed to make you use the ones you couldn't maxed out before since, even by playing every day, you could have never got enough resources to do so. There is no secret here. It's a pretty common game mechanic in free to play games and other gacha games when the editing company needs to increase its revenues.

[@ren-livewire]

I really think, as a f2p player, that hero equipment's are really OP. I can 3 star a TH 12 as a TH 11 with it, even without a siege machine. I think the real issue is the players Skill Issue. This game is out for 12 yrs and most players don't know any proper good strategies, mostly just spam drop E-drags or such. The nerfs aren't even that Bad, except for the Royal Champion Haste + Hogs, I think it's a well deserved nerf since it can mostly clear 1/4 to 1/3 of a base. Edit: I own multiple accounts, and been playing for 12 years. I'm nearly max on main and I gotta say, with Hero Equipments, the game is so much easier. The game is easier now compared to back then.

[@lucastol1069]

Finally a good take

[@Zawnpuia1640]

I hope it will bring less drawn War😁

[@Soul0408]

As a th 11 you don't have the experience of higher townhall I respect your opinion just showing my pov

[@midhuldas3977]

I don't have any problem with other equipment but I have problem with etarnal tome it got too much nerf

[@ren-livewire]

@@Soul0408 No, I have multiple accounts, including a TH11. I'm nearly max on main and I've been playing for 12 years.

[@dmgrimes69]

The most devastating nerf for me is the nerf on Eternal Tome! Because soo much ores spent just for a a few milliseconds and no passive effects.

[@saphymew4627]

Another aspect about neglecting the defensive side of the game is since equipment was released, it was established quickly that equipment was extremely strong, yet we have only seen sizable defense nerfs. I remember as close as June they released an update where they nerfed a lot of defenses across the board specifically to make attacking easier. People are so upset about this update because it feels like they are being punished for investing their hard-earned resources well, and now their main strategies or playstyles could be in jeopardy because of it

[@versusgeorge]

hear hear!! good one no defending supercell

[@Cascada194]

The nerfs may sound upsetting but honestly speaking how many players would actually ditch the gauntlet and go back to babarian puppet? Probably no one unless you want to attempt a creative attack. The base equipments for every hero (besides eternal tome) got buffed and the other equipments are the bonus that came alongside the th16 update. Attacking meta for heroes has been in a much better place since th16 so the negative reception seems really overexaggerated.

[@KennyJoGaming]

exactly, well said

[@DCG-w9g]

Salutes. You gotta remember if they buff the defense a ton of players farm -1,-2.-3, sheesh no heroes. Now that would be a problem..

[@Lonelysoul2105]

Let's see after the upgrade... If we can still 3 star the bases with the nerfs, using a better strategy it's all good i guess, like COC was and is a game of strategy.

[@ritiksharma6031]

Eternal Tomb and Healing tomb reduced cuz New Equipment Hero Toch is comming else people won't spend money on the new. The new spear of RC is shit no one was spending money on it so they reduced the Hogpuppet and Haste Vial too cuz the lone buff on spear wouldn't help and when the new equipment for RC Electro Boots comes they gonna reduce Seeking shield too. Gauntlet is reduced cuz almost ev1 has it maxed it's not milking money for SC.

[@tharunraghav9744]

Tome* . Tomb is an object in which mummies are put in

[@noobclashofclan8498]

I DON'T HAVE ANY EPIQ EQUIPMENT ,I LEFT THE GAME FOR 1 YEAR.

[@PeacekeeperGaming7]

I was expecting the nerfs to equipment they where needed in a way The game has changed in a big way when the equipment came to the game

[@deltathelegend8526]

What is the point of nerfing when Upcoming epic pieces of equipment are literally trash 1 is for grandwarden which will allow troops to jump over walls and take less damage and 1 is for royal champion which is like electro titans aura

[@gm_oyaji]

I really think that this was a good thing because i want to be able to have a bunch of preferred equipments that i can swap for different strategies and different bases and they are trying to do that and balance these so we guys wont just max like 2 equipment for each hero but still they gotta make ore grinding and buying easier to max every equipment bcz as new epic equipment comes itll get harder and harder to max every equipment.

[@ValToadstool]

I don't mind the nerfs all that much. None of them seem significant enough for me to stop using that equipment. Buffing equipment on the other hand gives an incentive to start upgrading equipment that I don't use now, thus costing me a lot of ores

[@tasya7508]

Could have made defence as strong as th15 or even stronger instead of nerfing equipment and also th17 almost here

[@sakibkhandaker7279]

balancing equipment is needed from the release of the equipment, i saw that coming. But this backlash from the community indicates poor ore economy. Releasing this much equipment in a short period of time and not increasing ore income created this mess. Two step is necessary to equipment and ore economy balance. 1st...equipment lvl should be capped at certain lvl to achieve proper balance accornding to th lvl.. 2nd... ore income needed to connect directly with th lvl

[@IZ4DAYZ_]

Thank you for voicing our opinions, I'm all for not slandering supercell as running a game as big as clash is hard but I think if we give them critical feedback that will be more useful and having the largest creators like yourself will help with our problems!

[@thobanimqadi]

Jo is one of the few clash KZbinrs who are actually in touch with the community and is honest about it in his videos. Love it. JMO

[@Big_T173]

I think the defences should have been buffed. I mean look at the th15/16 scattershot. you barely get any DPS increase

[@alejandroponce7946]

As a F2P this is worrying to us. They need to come up with something to bring back the Hype again. BTW Love your Videos!

[@StrangeJoe]

Lol if f2p leave there profit still goes up from new equipments bye bye

[@eugenew6717]

We need to all stand up and not spend any money to prove a point

[@md.sifatsarkar2775]

Dark elixer used to be the most expensive resource but at leat we don't feel any limit to how much we can get it depended on our grinding but limiting daily ores based on trophy and only source is not the right thing . It limits progression .

[@MeliodasDKL]

Personally current meta really is easy but It really is tough in higher legends for me. I am not good player but on the other hand seeing every pro player's base getting -320 is not ideal you know. It's hard ofc to see those nerfs but I welcome the game being tough

[@carolosduty7314]

I think the changes they are going to make will balance the game, I have a maxed th14 and th11 and the attacks are a joke with my th14 I make 3 stars to any th14 with yeti spam and in th11 it is even worse I make 3 stars to th12 with zap quake dragons only because heroes' equipment, and they are not going to nerf either the queen's arrow or the warden fireball. The changes they are going to make will not affect the intermediate town halls in my opinion.

[@formidableplays4750]

Finally, someone on youtube with a reasonable take and isnt just complaining about the nerfs like other videos i watched.

[@MdAdnan-yw8vr]

I only purchased once goldpass from last three years. I feel for those who spent for event pass and gold pass regularly.

[@ToofyxBoi]

You have to consider they are going to add more levels to the equipment, as well as we don’t know how much equipment there is going to be in a certain time period. We may not get a new equipment for 1-2 years after December. They can’t make it so everyone maxes equipment in a couple months. Think 1,2,5 years from now.

[@Ravencroft138]

The biggest slap in the face for me is the fact that they had the balls to offer ore for purchase and then announce they are nerfing shit. Kinda like saying, “Since you put all your effort into this piece of equipment, we are gonna need it so it’s useless, but don’t worry, you can give us more money to upgrade this piece of shit equipment that no one uses that we are gonna buff!” My thoughts to that is 🖕

[@applebee-sd1yb]

A lot of people asking for the ability to refunds ores but there's a big issue with that. How many times would people be able to refund? only once wouldn't make sense since there will still be balance changes in the future and people will ask for more chances to refund, or players will just constantly refund resources and never have to farm more ores again which supercell definitely won't let that happen. So I think supercell just need to make ores easier to farm for f2p as simple as that but they want the money so who knows if they'll do anything.

[@akashronanki8138]

Honestly not mad about most of the nerfs. I think the game has become too easy, and there needed to be some changes. The only nerf I think is too much is the hog puppets losing two levels (I think 1 level would be enough) and the rocket spear buff on top of that. I think it's pretty clear that because of how strong haste vial + hogs were, people weren't dumping resources/money into rocket spear the way supercell wanted for an epic equipment.

[@AtikYadav-jk7yc]

Supercell just woke up at that morning and decided to do chaos amongst the community 🗿

[@brewc11]

Dec everyone was all about the equipment and the new troop that turned walls into little more then decoration. What everyone forgets the defenses across the board got a huge nerf across the board... TH IT xbows and eagle all nerfed. Not to mention defensive heros don't have equipment so those are nerfed on defense. 4 defenses got removed from the board... now those RR have 4 less places they have to go and thus easier to funnel. Then and endless stream of more equipment. While everyone says everything is OP while forgetting a big reason behind it was TH16 basically have th16 offense and th15 defense

[@-0-0-0-0]

I think everything is fine. Supercell wants us to give the same priority to every equipment. All Players are using almost the same equipment.

[@bigsmoke248]

Fr.

[@manofhoff2623]

yeah ​@bigsmoke248 but pouring all your resources into certain equipments just to have them nerfed sucks

[@DreadLock835]

And after those nerfs every body is going to use the same equipments also , that's because some of the equipments that received buffs became the best for their heros

[@bigsmoke248]

@@manofhoff2623 dude i have them maxed out because they were op as hll. Just because we are upset doesn't mean they were "balanced"

[@brandondean5680]

​@@manofhoff2623 how do you know the nerf is gonna be bad? Your overreacting like a female 😂

[@kylehartman04]

Hot take: i acually don't have a problem with the equipment getting nerfed even though I've spent my time and effort to upgrade them, I think for the overall health of the game this is good

[@SUTH_33]

release a op stuff to forced everyone spend money on it and nerf it later is good for you? why not just they balanced it before releasing? people can choose which one they want and not regrets later

[@hagenkillman4205]

They have a 40 man developing team. They also have 80 million concurrent players a month, and over 1 million in legends league. What more do they want? Do they need record breaking profits every single time? When will they be happy? They fix the game now, because their pockets are full. We can see it, and I’m glad it’s getting called out. They should have fixed the game months ago.

[@Musterkartoffel]

​@@SUTH_33what do you mean "forced"? Nobody forces you to buy them

[@SUTH_33]

@@Musterkartoffel thats just an example. bought a mercedes amg with 300hp engine, 8 months later they swap your engine with the 200hp. huh that just a cheater

[@themulticourse2460]

​@@Musterkartoffel nobody forces? If you release an op equipment why won't we buy? After we grind they will nerf it so we can buy another equipment and same cycle.

[@HarsHSharmaDP]

DEFENCES are too POWERLESS in the game at the moment ........ I am getting an average of +280 in attacks in LEGENDS .. without using King and Queen ..(both of them are on upgrade ).... TH16 . (warden and RC are maxed ) ...... I don't think IMBALANCE is only due to Equipments ........ from my opinion defensive power of bases is too low .....

[@Saud-g8m]

I think the best course of actions would be to give us every single ores that we spent and all equipment return back to lvl 1 so we can choose upgrades again, but it should be a one time thing.

[@ConClasher3]

Thanks for making more videos regarding this change Jo. Personally I just don't like how they didn't target strong equipment (hence fireball being left alone) but rather hit rates (even Itzu said this). So they literally nerfed the equipment that affected the majority of players and that the most people had spent the most ores in which is super lame

[@sudeeptakataki8684]

Don't worry, fireball will be nerfed in future once everyone starts succeding with it.

[@tempo9641]

thanks for keeping it real Jo, and giving a voice to the players 🔥

[@nighthunter3824]

I'm with you on this one Kenny. Instead of complaining, people should get ready for the next OP items coming to COC. Shock boots for RC, torch for grand warden which is damage reduction.

[@YOUR-BRAIN-IS]

The nerf should only be for th16 coz that’s the easiest town hall 16

[@cowmania6196]

the th 10-12 seige machine nerfs were so unnecessary

[@KennyJoGaming]

Yea, I was very surprised that was done after it being the way it is now for so many years

[@Hex05]

Good change, I have only 3 stared at th11 in war because my rushed account just donates a level 4 log launcher and I take out an inferno tower plus an air defence, then giant arrow another two air defences and 3 zap spells destroy last one now it's guaranteed win.

[@Musterkartoffel]

I do not support that at all. The log launcher is way too OP for th 10 and 11, it 3 shots basically everything

[@ritiksharma6031]

Problem #1 Hero equipment were OP they should have done it at the start..But they were waiting for players to spend money on those since now almost ev1 is maxed on those equipment they nerfed it.. So that people now again spend money on other equipment to max them. RR unnecessarily got nerfed

[@tharunraghav9744]

I agree with everything but the rootriders. They're still too OP . They need another nerf imo

[@robertmetz3547]

You notice they didn't nerf the mirror because not enough people have put money into it to max it they will nerf after everyone maxes it

[@robertmetz3547]

Also every troop that got nerfed was a ground troop and the op air troops are untouched

[@mattjw08]

​@@robertmetz3547 also hard to nerf if you don't have data if is OP.

[@sanuverma7608]

That's not good for any f2p players

[@KrisRogos]

We used to get 1 or 2 new troops a year. They take a week to upgrade to a new level, and you can farm elixir without limit. Now we are getting 6+ epic pieces of equipment a year, and they are instant to do, but even in higher leagues it takes 2+ weeks to get the ore for the upgrades as you can just farm ores. We want new features, and we want them to be "better" than the last. The Root Rider, Spirit Fox or Super Miners being more powerful made sense. The Frozen Arrow or Rocket Spear being more powerful also makes more sense. The problem, and many people, myself included, highlighted this from the first epic, is that SC can't keep this power creep forever, not at this rate. The only way to make new equipment in 2025 better than what we have without making the game too easy had to be to nerf the 2024 equipment. The other frustration will be that a lot of people are only now getting to play with the new stuff at high levels, I started this year in TH14, and I'm spending $10-20 a month on my main CoC account, and I only just hit TH16 and had most of my main equipment to level 24 recently. I've had 9 months of watching Pros and YTrs do cool stuff with maxed-out heroes and armies, and just as I'm getting to this level, it all gets nerfed. F2P players will never experience this power level.

[@ggwp8615]

If they want to make equipment that we farmed ores for a long time to max then they should introduce an ore refund button so we can re distribution ores on the new bis or else this is just a shitty business tactic

[@BIGSTACK40]

Supercell didnt learn from what made the original builder base so bad. They should already know that players dont like having a finite limit on how much they are able to grind on a daily basis.

[@TRIGONN_]

As soon I saw the comments for the last video, I knew a video about it would come

[@aliashurricane9349]

I’m not thrilled about the balance changes but they’re not terribly ridiculous for most of us casual players. I appreciate some of the buffs and I’m bummed about some of the nerfs but I’m incredibly happy to have the equipment at all! I don’t want to go back in time to before we had it. I don’t care about the money aspect because it’s a business. I love you Jo. You’re a great guy for everything you do for your community. I hope you know how much I appreciate your honesty, humor and enthusiasm for this community ❤

[@jamaul1391]

I'm used to this tactics from a game called free fire, they regularly nerf the character and weapon every update so that players can switch up play style and it'll be new each season so you won't have people mastering one skill and using it over and over cause it's powerful, i think supercell is doing this same and this is nice because it means we'll have to learn new strategies each season

[@jordan_cagle]

One thing I feel is that if you start at the beginning of the game you would have a more even time playing. The equipment would be upgraded evenly where the top people who have the maxed out equipment spent $100s to max them out because they had a few years of time to spend upgrading them unless they were to be weak compared to their opponents.

[@01YA36]

"I am not going to bash thr developer as it's not good for my pocket"

[@darki4951]

like please guys basicly every game has changes in the metta every COD gets buffs and nerfs to guns and people who baught the skins dont go crying when their guns eventualy get nerfed your equipment will still be usable but you can still tripple and maybe in the future your equipment will be buffed again

[@lukebrowning1384]

Im a fully maxed th16, fully maxed equipments, i do spend money on the game and the way i see it, yes its good we finally get a balance change to equipments but i do see why the f2p community can complain about it, the balance changes were always going to come it was just a matter of time, the real question that needs to be addressed isnt buffs and nerfs its what is a way we can increase ore income, thats the biggest question that needs to be answered, yes the nerfs suck but you cant act like it wasnt ever gonna happen, we just need to adjust, people cant just stick to the same thing and expect it to always work, change is good and broadens your experiences. To sum up th16 in a nutshell is that offence is simply too strong for defence and im its absolutely frustrating from a high LL player as myself, wars are always draws, esports is just who can do it quicker, really hoping th17 is better and hopefully hard mode gets implemented in other areas of the game

[@umbertofabbietti962]

i reckon the perfect balance would be decreasing power of equipment but increasing the power of hero levels, so heros arent so impacted by equpiment and its the level that provides most of the dps increase

[@yggimnoelde]

Nerf if they want to nerf... Bring back unlimited heroes permanently

[@skarhn6215]

Yea, Reddit is always complaining about every single little detail ever made about the game😂. Yea I don’t like the changes much either but I’m not throwing a masssive baby tantrum about it, I do hybrid attacks and use the rocket spear so I’m happy about hybrid being essentially buffed and rocket spear seeing more game time at the very least.

[@dylansuperbad622]

Glad I wasted all that time on the most limited resource in the game for the equipment to get nerfed into oblivion forcing me to repeat the cycle for the next decent equipment. Then this cycle will repeat over and over again because they don’t actually play test their equipment like they should. Didn’t even want the hero equipment in the first place to make it all even more annoying. There is no real positive here. It’s a crappy move by supercell. I understand that you have to do whatever you have to do to keep your professional relationship with them.

[@ludwigxvii356]

They're not nerfed into oblivion, it's just balancing the game. It's annoying only because you're not choosing what you like but just the most recent OP stuff before they fix it. There is no way to playtest perfectly this type of items, they need to observe how players use them

[@ItsYaboyNOLSY]

Even though the equipments were OP, they were going to balance it out eventually and we all know it.

[@evanwoolson525]

I'm mostly free to play, and I don't mean to diss on people, but since you don't truly know what will get nerved or buff, evenly upgrade the equipment. That's what I do and yes it's annoying not being able to max everything, but eventually you'll be able to max everything and have the OP equipment eventually.

[@aleciagentry2949]

I believe it’s best to see how the changes affect our attacks after the update releases. We’re all judging something without testing it yet. Maxing an equipment is a choice. I have a member who is brand new th15. Maxed th14 heroes. Low equipment. Using a level 14 fireball, for example. He 3 stars almost (about 95%+ of the time) every fully maxed th16 we challenge him with in both fc (with defense cc troops) and in clan wars. With mass druids. He is the literal bottom of my roster and 3 starring the maxed opponent in #1 position. Endless draws in perfect wars does nothing to work towards win streaks. We needed the change. Else people would get bored with no real challenge. My 2 cents.

[@manitirkey5111]

I'm using only one type of attack scene Hero Equipment added 😅because I'm want upgrade best equipment soo I can't wast ore 😢 And fan of your content ❤

[@JestemMuerte]

As a casual f2p player I am not too worry about the nerf, although it took ages to bring those equipments close to max. It is so hard to keep balance with so many variables at play, that the best decision was to nerf the new and op points rather then introducing butterfly effect by messing with something well established. Latest TH is probably the easiest to 3 star then any other in the past. As much as I like winning, where's the satisfaction in easy wins? One can only hope, developers will have more luck with getting any new additions tuned just right at release. Take care Jo, keep up the good work 👍🏻

[@LeonPacurar]

If we're lucky they will listen to us and rethink the changes before they release them or fix them with another set of changes. If they nerf the earthquake boots after this, hopefully it won't be a big nerf, because they're about to make them op.

[@bigman5334]

i already see this in clash royale ..when the monk/Phoenix update they were so op that every one wants it and rush to upgrade it then after that they nerf it and also when the slash royale event it almost the same thing

[@realace8699]

Everyone is losing their mind bc an op item is a little less op. Every item that got nerfed is still very good but now you have more options.

[@xxomegaxx5427]

Exactly. The game is too easy and now its a little bit less too easy and people are freaking out, suddenly requesting refund and wanting to leave.

[@themulticourse2460]

More options more grind more money they get. That's the tactic sucking money

[@realace8699]

@@themulticourse2460 Nothing has changed for you, just grind the same item like before and your fine. You don't need the other Equipment, just the one that you used before.

[@jonathonssegura2383]

I think since theyre going to do this. Maybe they could implement a recycle feature of resources such as all the ore you put into a piece of equipment and recycle it and put it into a different piece of equipment.

[@robertmobu7556]

Buffing defences is not the perfect solution. If you buff them only people with max hero equipment are able to cope with them an the rest (the vast majority of players) will feel like they cant 3 star because they havent spent money in hero equipment and that may make them feel worse than just accepting a small nerf to their current equipment. Also, new levels of equipment may be introduced with th17 (epics up to 30 maybe?) and nerfing current levels is needed in order to keep the power creep at a minimum for future equipments/equipment levels. Thank you for attending my TED talk.

[@mels_life1]

Great! This saved me $45! I was planning on buying the gauntlet, frozen arrow and fire ball but not anymore :)

[@gund3637tm]

As a previous passionate player ( multiple accounts, doing wars farm, etc on all those accounts) and having been both f2p and a G-pass buyer, I knew this would happen eventually let me explain. Back when fan concepts of hero gear or equipment were out in the community I never really liked the concept, I liked the idea of variety but I knew it would be the strongest equipment would be at the top. Ideally, this would always happen with a few other pieces being for certain bases/attacks but the problem is that you would have to upgrade them like the other 99% of the game. Most of the time, it would be vertical progression instead of horizontal making you dump the ore into the strongest equipment and pray for them not to receive a Nerf. Also if you miss the event for the equipment it would be more money/time to get the gems to get it in the first place making the nerfs have a bigger impact on the player since you worked harder or spent more to get it. this is all coming from a player who hasn't experienced the th16 meta since I haven't played the game too much after the equipment update, but I do like the idea of buffing defense or even better other equipment. It would have had similar effects with players feeling their time and money being wasted, and it would allow different equipment to shine on certain bases/ attack Strats. Btw- its been a while Jo you look good man and you crossed 800k! Cant wait for you to join the 1 mil club!

[@macheadg5er]

Balancing was needed but how they did it was flawed. Buff the defenses so that average hit rate is 60%. Good attacks 80% and excellent attacks 100%. If that causes outrage in players because too hard THEN buff the equipment. This way you never nerf the equipment (only buff) and everyone is happy. The getting ore pain is much less if we get buffs ONLY. So 1 and a half years from now TH18. Now what? buff the equipment back to its current levels because TH 18 too hard? They are going to have to buff the equipment sooner or later. Also they should give 1 starry ore in the daily. Then you get 30 a month and get some progress at least even when in a non warring clan or one that loses a lot and of course FTP players.

[@abhinandan1441]

Trust me. There is a major chunk of players who want the game to be easy. Buffing the defense will make them drop the game. I would say a good strategy with only 2 heroes should be able to get 3 stars 80% of the time (for above th12). So people are happy while heroes are upgrading.

[@paulonetto9652]

There is a very simple solution, which is adopted in other games, that is when something like those items are nerfed, they should also be reset to level 1 and the player should receive back all the resources spent in the nerfed item. This way they have the option to simply level the item again, if they're ok with with the nerf, or to redistribute their resources differently if they think the nerf impacted them negatively. Any other way of dealing with this situation is just moneygrab.

[@kjordhenriquez3799]

To me i don't understand why eternal tome. The eternal tome goes so well with every gear the warden has. Also it's one of the important equipment to bring in most attacks

[@AnimeSnips_]

the only thing we are angry about is that, we grinded and waited to days to upgrade the equipments, and then they just nerfed the equipment, and at the same time they buffed other equipments

[@kianbx6529]

They reduced the ability to balance a foreseeable future increase in the cap of levels - I believe more levels will be added to the equipment once th17 is out

[@DustehUtd]

If they do all the balancing and continue to release new equipment, it'll be fine if they make it possible to reset equipment level and get back resources to spend elsewhere for example 500 gems to reset all equipment to 0 and return all resources.

[@SANJAY-ve9ub]

Let's wait for the update. Once it's out, we can see how these nerfs affect interactions. But Eternal Tome is unnecessary and I can now itself visualize how this 1.5s decrease will affect the game. It's my only hope against TH deathbomb especially those with poison effect.

[@patrickn2360]

The thing is, much like many fashions, coc meta is circular. The beginning of th16 quake boots were awesome for super barch which is what i was pushing with. As meta changed so did the equipment, that's natural. It looks like the next update buffs quake boots so pairing it with spikey ball looks op. Even though i haven't used quake boots since archer blimps was nerfed i have no regets maxing it out as it has come back into fashion.

[@Abhishek86532]

Just give us more ores or just add a ore generator or make it a resource that can be loote from other majet it somewhat common

[@RealKaffy]

Supercell can do 2 things to make this situation better 1. If they wanna nerf the epic equipment they should lower the cost to 1000 gems rather than 1500 gems and refund the players who have already bought it. Or, 2. They can just implements the nerfs on the equipment only on hard modes (aka wars/ competitive clash) and implementing the buff (only) on the under performing equip to original server example being king's eq boots buff, by doing that it kinda balances the game at competitive scene while keeping the avg player base happy. They are just my opinion and would love to hear feedback on this "solution" from kenny and other clash player.