What QAnon followers believe now - BBC News

[@robotone2812]

“ It’s Easier To Fool People Than To Convince Them That They’ve Been Fooled”

[@guacamolekid3899]

So wake up!

[@Ste-The-Leo]

@@guacamolekid3899 Its better to be though of as a fool, than to open your mouth and prove it.

[@guacamolekid3899]

@@Ste-The-Leo then keep your mouth shut

[@pissiole5654]

ahh the standard quote at the top of every comment section when its a video about these nut jobs hahah

[@jaaksavat7916]

@Robot One "Nothing is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" Martin Luther King.

[@tim01263]

I'm starting to believe that the internet wasn't a great idea.

[@ogbillity]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dreamlandnightmare]

Humanity wasn't a good idea.

[@sleekoduck]

The problem started with talk radio in the late 1980s and that Aussie fascist who bought up half the news outlets.

[@LuisGera1911]

Hahahahahaha

[@miamitten1123]

Was life better before it? I don’t think so.

[@Reine343]

Jacob is not a "kid" as referenceed by his attorney. This is a grown man that knew what he was doing Jan 6.

[@jimjimgl3]

Right. He was 19 in 2006, so yeah, hardly a child.

[@jodajoda2863]

I know lmao he's 35

[@ejiroamadi499]

Kid. I faced palmed at that. Guy is a grown ass man. That said I think his mental issues should have been taken into consideration

[@theobserver9131]

Anyone under 30 is a kid to me.

[@devilsolution9781]

@@theobserver9131 i think thats the point, he just got a big age difference. Probs younger than his son if he has one

[@iCuretheWorld]

My mother has unfortunately fell into this and it ultimately led to the divorce of my parents. It’s incredibly sad but let me shed some light. My mother is brilliant. Graduated #1 in her class in both undergrad and med-school. Her knowledge of math, chemistry, medicine, and science is actually incredible. People who fall for this are not all stupid people. I believe she was depressed, alone, and in denial of the death of multiple family members who lost their life to COVID. They pry on these type of people to give them an alternative reason to why things are the way they are or why things happened. Not wanting to believe the reality of the situation ultimately led to a spiral of absolute absurd conspiracy’s. For anyone wondering this group is still strong and growing and the conspires they spout are getting more extreme. They are totally fueled by fear and I genuinely believe the people (like my mother) who are deep into this now genuinely believe the world is going to essentially end once a month or once a week, its always something new. It must be an awful way to live. Anyone can fall victim to this group and it really is sad. My heart goes out to all who have to deal with friends and families like this.

[@ireignsupreme2355]

The reason your parents divorced is due to COVID fam, the lockdown made many families break up because they were forced to deal with each other .,the divorce statistics went higher and your family just happened to be one of them don’t blame Q anonymous

[@ent1311]

What med school did she go to?

[@realtalk7547]

I’m sorry to hear about your family’s losses. I know very little about the Qanon thing except for those things being highlighted in the news. To give your seemingly intelligent mother somewhat if a pass here, most conspiracies have their core in some elements of truth that make some sense and then those truths are extrapolated upon so that the truth is even muddled. By that time those who “ believe “ are trapped by the truer elements. I find it wild and sad that your parents let it break their oneness. That is cultic stuff right their. Perhaps it’s deeper than Qanon.

[@jaeboogie2786]

Im sorry that this Q mess has torn your family apart. We must fight back against this poison and venom that's being spread through our people, and by that I mean chop off the head of the Q snake

[@cameronhart816]

I actually read this

[@bartoncarlin3245]

I'm not afraid of their doubt; I'm afraid of their certainty.

[@therenegadepianotechnician5170]

Dunning /Kruger effect

[@301rekkz]

Couldn’t say it any better !!

[@sarah3796]

Yes yes yes

[@therenegadepianotechnician5170]

@rivir phoenix = Q8 How come Trump lost the election and never arrested and hung the alleged Satanic pedophile network ? How come Jfk Junior never showed up in Daily Plaza in Dallas ?

[@P5YcHoKiLLa]

Exactly, that's what, in their minds, will provide them with the reason they need to attack people.

[@TheNefastor]

"I'm a deep thinker". Said no deep thinker, ever.

[@gazpachopolice7211]

I think she was talking air the time she was under meth.

[@bigdixxie3289]

She voted for the stable genius who is the least racist person. 🙄

[@wwsuwannee7993]

Ya, she must have a very big brain... good words too.

[@Llkc60]

"posting commonplace wisdom in youtube comment sections" - no smart person ever.

[@blastermanr6359]

They should know the proper term is "Big Think"

[@MissAshten]

This is why in America we need to be so worried about education and mental health treatment. Failing at both has consequences for all

[@zzeegermantube]

And realising that freedom of speech is not an absolute. The spread of toxic and simply factually wrong stuff needs to be stopped. Making the denial of the Holocaust a crime in Germany hasn't reduced our freedom of speech in a sense worth mentioning.

[@ryanellsworth7246]

Yep, ignorance gave birth to the progressive movement.

[@ogapadoga2]

I am QAnon member and we are growing and ready for the next civil war.

[@ryanellsworth7246]

@@ogapadoga2 If you knew anything about Q you would know that the movement is a peaceful one. No kid, you are a fake. We are growing worldwide, true, but this war is being fought in the hearts of every man woman and child. And we are winning.

[@warrior7038]

If the education you're talking about is leftist propaganda, then no, we don't need any more of it.

[@mgzcom]

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.” ― George Carlin

[@stephenmiller559]

even George Carlin Told us multiple times that we are run by a 2party tyranny with the illusion that we are free.

[@hm3drake35]

REPUBLICANS.

[@theliamofella]

100%, this has become so apparent in the last few years, it’s actually very shocking and disturbing

[@mgzcom]

@@theliamofella Truthiness has replaced reality , facts and logic. Stephen Colbert called it on the first episode of his show, The Colbert Report, back in 2005.

[@johnrittel6129]

@@hm3drake35 you mean the satanic woke lefties

[@lalakuma9]

People should be taught starting middle & high school how to do proper research and think critically about their sources of information. You can't just believe some "news" that someone posts of social media, and yet a lot of Americans are getting their news on Facebook.

[@tracesprite6078]

Worse still, they get hypnotised and muddled by Fox News, owned by the most cunning old Fox of all.

[@MKR5210]

I think the misuse of the word "research" needs to be addressed first. Ordinary people do not do research. They can educate themselves, about their countries history, politics and the humanities, be open to different points of view, but that is not research. Research is the creation of new knowledge and/or the use of existing knowledge in a new and creative way so as to generate new concepts, methodologies and understandings. This could include synthesis and analysis of previous research to the extent that it leads to new and creative outcomes. That does not describe surfing the net!!!!

[@jayjonah83]

If people are taught critical thinking skills, which is called liberal indoctrination by the Conservative Elites and their smooth brained followers, they can't be held in fear and subsequently controlled.

[@tracesprite6078]

@@jayjonah83 Yes, employing good quality teachers in schools for the poor is a really worthwhile investment.

[@sierralovat5498]

Younger.

[@vhead612]

“Why not” is the favorite defense of Qanon. BECAUSE OF CRITICAL THINKING

[@christiananderson4909]

Yep. What do you even do with a response like "Why not?" Makes me want to scream.

[@daven4895]

@@christiananderson4909 that is a fallacy, you presented a claim, you should have an evidence to support it. Saying "why not?" Is not an evidence but rather the lack of a counter-argument, there won't be a counter-argument if no argument is put into the table.

[@christiananderson4909]

@@daven4895 I think the counter argument is pretty intuitive for anybody with a conscience, namely; that young man should not justify the adoption of ludicrous conspiracy theories, backed up with spurious misinformation and outright lies (fueled in large part by preexisting political biases). It's especially ludicrous to respond to a simple inquiry into why he believes those things by simply saying "why not?" Clear enough?

[@daven4895]

@@christiananderson4909 exactly what I'm talking about, I'm not against you Hahaha, just backing you up.

[@christiananderson4909]

@@daven4895 I couldn't tell. Text without the aid of vocal inflection or facial expressions can be tricky for me, sometimes. My apologies.

[@Obironnkenobi]

I heard someone describe this with: "What do you expect from a society that went from the space race to flat earthers in 1 generation?

[@kb2x172]

So a question MUST NOW BE ANSWERED.... Feel free to comment... If you consider free speech a "danger" to free society, are you as a individual opposed to Freedom of Speech, choice, ideas, religion, etc.??? You do KNOW you can't have it both ways, either "freedom of speech" is an essential pillar of free society or it isn't. There are ramifications within either choice. You choose.

[@deevnn]

@@kb2x172 Much of this is about religion that brainwashes you as a child so your open to this conspiracy theory nonsense, also many of these people are poor, hopeless and uneducated so they are grist for the mill for these conmen. A truly free society does not foster this type of crippling mania. You can pretty much say what you want but you can't do what you want particularly when it means killing someone or treasonous behavior.

[@lll9107]

Yeah, 200 people tripping on mescaline and dressed up as fantasy characters definitely represent the entire USA. Good call.

[@kb2x172]

@@deevnn So with that being said... are you for Freedom of Speech (knowing what comes with it), or do you oppose one's right to speak freely? I will remind you... How can one properly protest without the right to speak void of penalty. What mechanism in society fosters new ideas and invention if it isn't free speech. If one can determine a legal space for "hate speech" what will the Bible be considered. Can it be banned, merely by someone's offense or disagreement of the message. Limiting speech limits ideas.

[@tristanmenifee5783]

Lmao

[@faithpearlgenied-a5517]

It must be so difficult for their loved ones, imagine watching someone you care about ending up that lost and broken.

[@jasminer.6721]

I have a much older brother who's in this , i hate it.

[@VelcroKittie]

@@jasminer.6721 I can imagine. It must be absolutely awful. Honestly my heart goes out to you. From time to time I will go on their Forum to check and see what they are saying about current affairs and it's just so off the wall it beggars belief. Given the content, I imagine that it must be quite difficult for these people do do normal every day tasks without reading into things and drawing the bizarre conclusion that something they see must mean something absolutely huge when in fact it's just completely normal. I imagine the trip to the grocery store is total chaos for some when everything means something and patterns are there to give us clues into nefarious underworld cabal activity. The biggest problem is the arrogance. They are so convinced that they are right that they feel sorry for those who flat refuse to buy into their nonsense. The more you try and explain to them that what they are buying into isn't real the stronger they become, because they use the experience as a form of persecution. i.e I am being persecuted because I am red-pilled and the "sheep" are trying to pull me back into the world of lies. I find it mesmerizing that they openly refer to people who do not buy their nonsense as 'Sheeple.' You are not going to get a more sheep-like community than Qanon. They all speak the same language, use the same slang, share swaths of the same beliefs and follow the guidance of an anonymous poster who is vague at best and incorrectly predicted numerous things. They're totally lost but not beyond reaching.

[@katelynngonzales1837]

My mom is heavily in it and the sad thing is that she dragged my dad into believing it too. It sad to see her talk about this conspiracies and let this stuff consume her entirely. I don’t recognize her anymore as she tries to convince me that all this crap is real. Even if it is, what can I do anyways?

[@Cub__]

@@VelcroKittie You sound quite arrogant yourself. So your telling me that you don't think there's an ouch of possibility that everything you've been told is nothing more then a pretty little lie and that there's so much behind the scenes that you cannot even fathom? The media has done a great job dividing we the people and social engineering... Former KGB predicted this.

[@Cub__]

@@katelynngonzales1837 It's about living in reality and not some little delusion.. news flash is life isn't a Disney movie.

[@Turd_Ferguson538]

"These people are nuts" - a sane American.

[@roxie_the_rockmonster4892]

I say nucking futs

[@RachelRampage88]

American here and I hate living on the same continent with these freaks.

[@patrickmcglonejr8163]

Id say they are nuttier than squirrel turds.

[@edwsc3]

There are so MANY and they seem so unstoppable !!

[@MYRIAMLATEUR]

And evil!

[@GGiblet]

I'm not an expert but I think qanon attracts the same kind of people that would be drawn to many cults. I hope and pray they come back out.

[@yoloswaggins7121]

Like cults, anyone can be drawn in. Peopld who have low self esteem or are going through difficult times are always vulnerable to these sorts of movements.

[@M1ggins]

My friend got lost to Qanon over quarantine, not sure if it's linked, but it seems the ones she's sucked in with are all herbalife 'reps'.

[@dreamlandnightmare]

Qanon IS a cult.

[@karencski711]

One difference is they don't even know who the "leader" is! That still boggles my mind. Q could be a teenager in Russia, or a hacker in Egypt, or anyone of any motivation anywhere. Why would anyone put their faith in this faceless person?

[@jslick5084]

You guy's all sound absolutely stupid and are obviously still blind to what is going on in our world

[@dubplateriddim]

No matter how far we progress as humanity, we cannot seem to shake our vulnerability to mass hysteria.

[@elizabethfigueroa6159]

Or mass idiocy

[@RelentlessOhiox]

You have to remember there are 7 billion people on the planet. Combine that with global ease of access to shit like Fox News and social media, throw in a bit of below-average-level intelligence, and there you go.

[@jamaya730]

Holy shit! We're doomed🥺

[@christineperez7562]

I do not think we have progressed at all. American's have been brainwashed just as much as people who live in communist countries. Our government is letting this nonsense happen. Right now they are winning. I think covid is making us wake up and hopefully we will come together again. At the same time one long lasting side effect of having covid is it effects your brain. Mental health needs to be talked about a lot more.

[@karencarpenter5845]

Usa citizens are stressed overworked and do not on any level feel safe. Maybe if usa got universal health care and 6 to 8 weeks vacation they could start relaxing and feel better like European countries.

[@Fergusbaddog]

Qanon Kim said "... I would love a physical battle" this shows us what's in her heart.

[@notcherbidness501]

I’ll take her on in a boxing ring

[@immitchy931]

and she looks frail and her dog's fur is dyed purple. like come on with this bs

[@hm3drake35]

until the war breaks out and you're the first one running for cover.

[@gdiaz8827]

How is she any different than members of the BLM or antifa

[@immitchy931]

@@gdiaz8827 antifa gets active. They don't sit and daydream. Proud boys and oath keepers are scared of antifa.

[@andyroo9381]

Yes, these people are as crazy as they sound and appear. I am worried for my country's future.

[@support_theory8754]

@rivir phoenix = Q8 interstellar medium TroLlolololLOLOLOLlloLOLLLOLOLO TROLL.

[@joseortega-us6rn]

They are mentally and spiritual challenge .

[@masonplank6627]

It's really sad how impressionable and under educated a huge portion of the US is it's truly just sad I hope these people can move on eventually and in healthy ways.

[@Red-Brick-Dream]

Generations of Americans have been stunted - intellectually, emotionally, nutritionally - by the feudal dystopia they live in, and this is the result. This is third-world sh$%.

[@lauranydb7979]

Maybe we have to build a wall around each red state and ban their podcasts and all rhetoric from the "Intelligent American Educated Internet"

[@guapelea]

@@lauranydb7979 Compared to those people you don't feel intelligent, you feel extraterrestrial. Well, talking by myself, anyway.

[@genome616]

It is sad you think that is the case from a biased report of QAnon that showed the odd looney tune that claim to follow it and made out that is what it is about, how do you think some of the biggest scandals were exposed like Epstein's pedo island or CCP blackmailing some very high end political figures, these were all part of QAnon at one point and people laughed yet now we find Epstein sudden suicide because he could have buried too many people with what he knew and no one doubts now what went on on his island with kids. PS - I do not belong to any QAnon group but when real evidence of corruption and other illegal activities gets into the public view you can often guarantee QAnon has been part of the exposure, I suggest you ignore the crazies it attracts and realise there are alot of very high figures scared at what may be revealed by QAnon and that is why there is a massive attempt to silence them and paint them as ill educated morons.

[@guapelea]

@@genome616 good try. But it just don't add up. Only ill-educated people would find your allegations convincing

[@ArturMorgan7491]

I don’t doubt there’s an incredible amount of shady stuff people have no clue about but these people are nuts.

[@kaha6987]

The world need a another failed Austrian artist

[@ArturMorgan7491]

@@AT-bq1kg one can differentiate between people who are nuts and logical questioning. These people are talking about Satan worshipping and one said the Suez Canal was for this purpose. Is this not behaviour of someone one could accurately describe as nuts?

[@Etaoinshrdlu69]

It's fair to say that there might be some eccentric rich people worshipping the devil or partaking in cannibalism. It gets sus when people claim that these devil worshippers/cannibals are only Democrats or that those in question have secret tunnels underground Washington Dc. Also don't they belong to the party that defend rich people endlessly. Why do Republicans want to defend wealthy devil worshippers/cannibals?

[@guff9567]

@@alexleanh BBC = Operation Mockingbird. Controlled by the pharmaceutical cabal

[@WhichDoctor1]

That is the trouble. They see a lot of the bad outcomes caused by fundamental problems in our society, but then the people who’ve caused those problems come and whisper poison in their ear and suddenly they’re blaming babe eating Satan worshiping lizard people for their terrible lives. Rather than the crony capitalism that’s actually causing all their problems

[@Metalliicmurder]

My grandma is a full fledged supporter of Qanon. It’s cause so much turmoil in my household. From morning to night it’s her reading up on “secret fbi files that the public doesn’t know of”. Trumps family being told to reign over America and save the world from the words of the Bible. Everything is something to her. Everything is a conspiracy. She is such a smart and educated woman. It hurts my heart, it hurts my sanity. I really don’t even know what to do anymore. I don’t even know how have a normal conversation with her because at the end of it, it resorts to Qanon, or trump for the coming of God.

[@smoklhoe]

I have a friend like this, every single thing is a conspiracy, it's exhausting!!

[@samwrought5650]

I feel for you the both of you and your families

[@focofox37]

They have to say "I believe" because they can't honestly say "I think"

[@lexruptor]

Exactly, because they didn't think. That's the true gravity of the situation. We have a problematic group of believers instead of thinkers.

[@Ste-The-Leo]

@@lexruptor Then there's the problem with the Q anon people too...

[@striker44]

Roots of it goes back to believing in one book and one book only. It stops the seeking and critical thinking process.

[@fedm6296]

The desperate need to "believe" in something when there is no functioning brain. What's new?

[@Ravenelvenlady]

From "I think" they could very well go to "I have studied and experienced" to "I know and conclude from all this..." which is a process not encouraged in this culture.

[@curtisthomas2670]

The thing is their very limited idea of what is "research" and "evidence" is what leads them down a rabbit hole to lunacy, paranoia and violence

[@lauranydb7979]

Podcasts like Joe Rogan and Alex Jones and so many more sucking them in for clickbait, the internet has turned to a big rotting garbage dump.

[@jesusisdead]

@rivir phoenix = Q8 our country worships the Gods of Greece and Egypt and yes I believe they sacrifice children but all world powers have been doing it since Bible times. Abortion is sacrifice in plain sight

[@syasyaishavingfun]

@rivir phoenix = Q8 why do you like the Matrix so much? I understand that you support trans right thus your love for the movies but you shouldn't support something just because they are made by trans/women/etc.

[@YamCherie]

@@lauranydb7979 What does Joe Rogan have to do with the rotting garbage dump?

[@ewokwarrior2656]

@@YamCherie why not? Because. It is what it is and he, Rogan, is. So, that is how is, is. Now you know.

[@lchjr]

We are deep thinkers... We only believe the most obscure, uncorroborated, information we can find on the sounding board.

[@Jack_Stacks]

"Do your own research" lol

[@luis9639]

you're just a clown

[@ryanellsworth7246]

You only believe that we believe it. We on the other hand, laugh at your stupidity.

[@kris2672]

@@ryanellsworth7246 does that make you feel better about your worthless existence though? What are you gaining from laughing at other people? Still waitin on the swamp being drained and remember when trump called Ghislaine Maxwell a good person? You seriously need to check your surroundings and reflect, laugh on but know the only joke here is yourself

[@aClownBaby-]

@@ryanellsworth7246 Uh same.

[@savagesweetheart90]

I got out because I noticed that I've been getting more irritated, stressed, and depressed. Once I left fully and blocked everything and everyone, I felt tremendous relief and now am open to learning new things especially things that I once disagreed with and still learning.

[@ADPDIGITALMEDIA]

That's awesome. Congratulations on your recovery

[@DanielVerberne]

Anyone spot the almost sweet, humanising moment of cognitive dissonance when the dog groomer woman spoke about how she can't wait to go into armed battle against "...elites, the media" and then the journalist points out that she's part of the media and the woman immediately carves out an exception for her. To me this is almost sad, it shows this poor woman is still human, still cares and yet her mind is struggling to contain this fantasy that others have imposed on her and many others like her.

[@edwsc3]

I can see what you're saying...but these q's are EVERYWHERE now! She grown WOMAN and should be able to decide for herself...but is incapable of doing so

[@communitygardener17]

It may not involve other people. Most of our lives are not exciting. Thinking of yourself having adventures, doing heroic, important things that are larger than daily drudge, is seductive.

[@katwalkable]

Very dangerous cult.

[@facepalmdeath3785]

That lady couldn't fight her way out of a geriatric hospital let alone against people who make war a business.

[@jennclark7988]

It’s called mental illness. Period. Full stop.

[@russdanger448]

Its so sad to hear that they blindly believe all this nonsense without a shred of actual evidence.

[@justiceitself]

Maybe they were already primed to believe without evidence by religious indoctrination

[@RayW....]

@@justiceitself or Liberal Academia...

[@codeinecowboy8607]

@@RayW.... sweeeeeet home incest

[@ourmine2349]

I'm only just hearing about this topic now, but I think it's more sad that billions of people blindly trust their governments

[@russdanger448]

That isn't as sad. Just think, the government explains to you why you should believe it. There is no reason to believe QAnon, that it is real or legitimate or its agenda. I'm not saying to trust either one. But definitely not one that is always wrong on predicting anything.

[@sharongillesp]

The problem I have with them is they SAY “everyone is lying to them,” but then they support one of the biggest liars that’s been president.

[@american11asshole]

You mean Biden right...

[@jaxcoss5790]

@@american11asshole No,30 000+ lies Trump. An absolutely disgraceful human being.

[@american11asshole]

@@jaxcoss5790 You obviously don’t live in reality.

[@jaxcoss5790]

@@american11asshole You need to take a close look at yourself. You have issues.

[@Catwhisper175]

@@jaxcoss5790 Biden is corrupt

[@mikemacneil9319]

I have a theory…….remember as a kid wanting to understand and be apart of a grown up conversation? I think these people have remained as adults on the outside of a intellectual wall. Feeling left out, stupid or small. But these conspiracies have made them feel like they finally know something others don’t. They feel important finally. And being in the know is something desirable. Wanting to belong is natural,

[@8WHITROOSTER8]

😂 Have you done ANY research into the satanic child sex trafficking elites? All of that information must be a figment of their "child" like imagination. Its right in front of people's eyes. Yet can't pry themselves from the mainstream media's narrative.

[@8WHITROOSTER8]

I bet Epstein hung HIMself. CNN said so

[@mymia731]

Any time a person tells me that they are deep thinkers, I walk away.

[@GazB85]

"You're like, just not a free thinker, maaan!"

[@nicholasrobertson9006]

you must be a close minded sheep. makes sense

[@theobserver9131]

@@nicholasrobertson9006 deep thinkers don't feel the need to point it out. If you need to shout it out, you are compensating for a lack there of.

[@theobserver9131]

@rivir phoenix = Q8 hilarious!

[@xtinkerbellax3]

They're the same people who claim they're "alpha".

[@russelljackson2818]

"I would love a physical battle" - middle aged dog groomer with no battle experience

[@idellaspencer-miller2751]

lol...hilarious

[@Itoshimi]

Right lmaoo. The same backwood hicks who are overweight and/or underweight, with no battle experience thinking they can take on the US army with only AR15s.

[@marcogiulivi7595]

she wants to fight the UN...the frikking UN...after the morning walkies tho

[@Earthbound369]

They live in a fantasy world.

[@bq1013]

Only battle she has is to see the manager

[@davidfl4]

Props to this journalist. Extremely professional, thorough and even respectful of these troglodytes

[@sayno2lolzisback]

Well that's the way to do it. A confrontational style only draws up the barriers. Sometimes if you give people the noose, they accidentally hang themselves.

[@tecnique000]

Qanon is clearly a dodgy cult but If anyone is interested in a neutral approach to this strange phenomenon, search 'q shaman prison interview', you'll see the situation is more nuanced that you expected. You might think the 'shaman' is a complete idiot but that isn't the impression I had after hearing him speak first hand.

[@terryhaircastle5702]

😂

[@kb2x172]

So a question must now be answered.... Feel free to comment... If you consider free speech a "danger" to free society, are you as a individual opposed to Freedom of Speech, choice, ideas, religion, etc.??? You do KNOW you can't have it both ways, either "freedom of speech" is an essential pillar of free society or it isn't. There are ramifications within either choice. You choose.

[@mkh29mail]

@@tecnique000 i thought that interview was very good, but I wouldn't go so far as to call the shaman "not an idiot". That isnt accurate

[@carlosh2390]

“Elites or whatever” scary to think there’s people in this world who think like this insane lady

[@nothanks9503]

That stood out to me more than anything that’ll be on the epitaph of this country “the elites or whatever”

[@justinboddington9242]

Dose ANY BODY HERE NOT AGREE WITH THE MAUN STEAM MEDIA @!!!!!!

[@houmm08]

"My research" 😂😂😂😂😂 "I'm a deep thinker" 😂😂😂😂😂 Who are you gonna fight? "The UN" 😂😂😂😂😂. You could not make it up

[@MKR5210]

Anyone who has to loudly claim they are "deep thinkers", "very smart", etc., You can guarantee ARE NOT!!!

[@johnshaw4140]

If she's a deep thinker , why has the dog got a purple mohecan haircut ?

[@houmm08]

@@johnshaw4140 hahahahaha

[@kb2x172]

It is very sad how many people's mind has turned to mush. Yet a question MUST NOW BE ANSWERED.... Feel free to comment... If you consider free speech a "danger" to "free society", are you as a individual opposed to Freedom of Speech, choice, ideas, religion, etc.??? You do KNOW you can't have it both ways, either "freedom of speech" is an essential pillar of free society or it isn't. There are huge ramifications within either choice. You choose.

[@daviderickson8699]

Not to mention that taking up arms against your fellow citizens, "the elites," is your "Constitutional right." That seems like something the founding fathers would've put in there

[@dontbothermeimjust12]

It's really funny to see those people going off about their lunacy from outside, but I'm sure it's quite sad and terrible for their family and loved ones.

[@bbcisaids6727]

To laugh at the sense of men, is privilege of fools

[@jogon6660]

You belive this BBC ACTOR ?

[@dontbothermeimjust12]

@@bbcisaids6727 and to be an idiot is to willingly be laughed at. Keep it up buddy I like laughing at people like you, it provides some entertainment for the test of us

[@bbcisaids6727]

@@dontbothermeimjust12 👈twitter nazi

[@itookallthenames]

@@jogon6660 write a book about it I’ll read it

[@kaushikvarma9887]

Why do u believe in nonsense? --"why not" Can't argue with that

[@BrightBlueJim]

That's kind of what belief is all about.

[@kaushikvarma9887]

@@BrightBlueJim belief or superstition ?

[@BrightBlueJim]

@@kaushikvarma9887 The only difference between the two is whether or not you agree with the belief. Calling something a superstition just means you disbelieve it strongly enough to not understand why anybody would believe it. Guess what? Those people who you think of as superstitious think of you the same way.

[@watertekmusic]

So like......who were Ghislaine Maxwell's clients then? Noone wonder why we're still waiting on that?..........

[@user-ed1yx2fq7l]

Exactly 😂

[@justinboddington9242]

1 person who is not affiliated with the msm

[@sumbodyreal]

This is my first time learning of this group. Do you think this has anything to do with Diddy and the current politicians indictments?

[@randomheadful7190]

I’ve worked for the federal government and trust me when I say, they couldn’t even get my paycheck right. I highly doubt they’re responsible for any kind of massive cover up!

[@duanepigden1337]

So true.

[@NicolaiCzempin]

Yes; never attribute to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence. None of these conspiracy theorists seem ever to have worked for an organisation of any considerable size.

[@juulee]

@Wayne Technically the researchers weren't hiding what was being done to anyone except the participants themselves. It is one of the most infamous unethical studies yes. The person from the US Public Health Service who first formed the study group actually resigned before the project was extended. Funding was also pulled, but the researchers continued the study anyway. It was corrected by the government with other oversight agencies to curb the worst impulses of those in positions of power from taking things too far i.e. IRB, OHRP. Here we see yet again the government is trying to curb the actions of an ex-president that has taken things too far and is promoting outlandish conspiracies without merit for his own personal gain. We should be learning from Tuskegee.

[@88godson88]

This Q stuff seems very dumb but at the same time the government definitely does cover things up. It’s very well documented. Is your assumption that the government has full transparency with its citizens?

[@TheDarkNet-.-]

But, that's exactly what a federal government agent would say 🤔

[@chesterwilberforce9832]

Kim from LA, in just a few short sentences, encapsulates all of the false logic upon which Qanon is predicated. What bothers me the most is the self-righteous condescending smugness of these people, as if only they are smart enough to figure this stuff out, and they need to be patient with those of us who can't think as well as they do. There ought to be a short logic test you need to pass to access the internet. She would flunk.

[@williamkeys5701]

It's part of the appeal of Q. The Q drops are always cryptic messages and then these people get to dither out the real meaning. Think about good video game puzzle design. They get a feeling of accomplishment for decoding the message and then can congratulate themselves for how smart they are for having done so.

[@xtinkerbellax3]

The grasp for superiority is the main appeal, it allows middling people to feel a sense of superiority they will never get in other aspects of their life. They know deep down they'll never be rich or smart, but now they have one over on those who are, and it makes them feel good.

[@MomMom4Cubs]

@@williamkeys5701 Underrated Comment Alert! Yes. This!!!

[@sledzeppelin]

It's unbearably frustrating.

[@MomMom4Cubs]

@Titanium 147 What are your sources? Or is this just supposition from another armchair psychoanalytic circa 1960?

[@arnoldhills1865]

This is what the BBC should do and do more of, informative and investigative journalism.

[@Khemith_Demon_Hours]

@Hugh Mungus Yeah we should get our "informative and investigative journalism" from nutters who think Jewish space lazers are out to get them and that Hillary drinks adrenocrome.

[@TomAZ1984]

Informative? Ten minutes long. Two of it was interviews with the subjects.

[@edwsc3]

These Q's have CONVINCED people BBC and cnn are FAKE news !

[@an0970]

@Hugh Mungus oh here come the weirdo republitards with frog pics, seek help your lost boy.

[@damienkarras8552]

just please stop with that kind of narrating voice, it sounds like an online yoga training

[@catherineboyd1539]

Just for the record Spock never said "It's only logical" He did say however " Logic is the beginning of wisdom not the end." and "Without followers evil cannot spread."

[@the_kombinator]

Fascinating (raises eyebrow).

[@saxoncrow2500]

Live long and prosper sister. RIP Leonard Nimoy

[@tortillawhisperer5811]

For anyone looking for hope, I just graduated high school and in my government class we focused on media bias at least once every week. We had weekly projects in which we had to search for 2 articles about the same topic from 2 different political POVs. Then we had to highlight every time propaganda was used, and how it could effect someone who was not fully educated about the topic. Basically by the end of the course we all knew which media sources were safe and which ones weren’t, and how to detect propaganda. My class was split 50/50 dems and Republicans. we had many class discussions which showed me that both sides were actually quite level headed and willing to work together, however media was tearing us apart.

[@Just.A.T-Rex]

What a great teacher you had

[@amandskelley4333]

That's an awesome teacher you had 😉 this is kids should be taught to think leave all bias behind and do research and have conversations without ripping every ones heads off 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Galworld761]

Rage equals profits

[@BiG-JuPO1O1]

Yep it's the media and politicians.

[@N3n4000]

We had these type of lessons in High School all the time. I’m still wondering why many people don’t use what they learned. Maybe they never learned. What many fail to realize is that today’s “mainstream media” is built by random people’s opinions and beliefs being pumped into social media day in and day out. We’re the ones molding the most consumed form of media, let’s face it some of us aren’t the smartest or most sane.

[@mdeac48]

"Not everyone with a mental health issue stormed the capital" I suspect that nearly everyone who stormed the capital has a mental health issue though.

[@ewokwarrior2656]

Soon there will be a trumpism spectrum as a mental health issue.

[@edwsc3]

ABSOLUTELY !!! Normal People dont STORM things !!

[@gbeachy2010]

Lewis Carroll logic exercises.

[@the_kombinator]

@@shaquillebiffee So tempted to put in a "your mom" joke here....

[@expermentes]

@@edwsc3 normal or brainwashed? They're pet now completely under control 😉 .

[@circa1890]

Sadly, a lot of this could be avoided by being properly schooled in researching and critical thinking. This should be taught in our school systems at the grade school level. Also, teaching people to "self-soothe" and community development.. no one should feel lonely or lost - it's easy to manipulate those who do.

[@jolfc9602]

Totally agree. We cant blame the people believing in irrational and weak theories if the education system is poor quality.

[@tacitblue1973]

It's not in the interests of the rich that the human capital stock be educated beyond their immediate needs. Obedient workers accepting slave wages. That's how America was from day one.

[@fedm6296]

What is happening in the US culturally is saddening in many ways. At the same time all these people who feel that they are "at war", whether on the streets or on the keyboard, should not be ignored.

[@fedm6296]

@@jolfc9602 Well you're certainly not doing anyone a favour if you start teaching that the blame is with the system and grown-up individuals do not have responsibility.

[@circa1890]

@@fedm6296 Agreed. Each person needs to take personal responsibility for their actions. Though the hope is that we can keep play and curiosity alive in people. These traits instill thoughtfulness and dispel fear - a driver of rigid thinking and a me vs. them mentality. No one should ever feel dismissed. In short, character-building to create a more well-rounded individual, thus society. This actually wouldn't be difficult to implement.

[@isabelateixeira3713]

This is the perfect storm. Increasing polarization + unaddressed mental health issues + algorithmic echo chambers + lack of media literacy + widespread misinformation + bad education systems + economic crisis etc… the list is endless.

[@justbe1451]

It's super, super important to educate our children to be independent, rational thinkers. America's education system likes to keep them dumb & desperate.

[@Justusson]

School, companies, politicians,..

[@Moamanly]

I think we are seeing the results of a society that has spent over a century worshipping money, power and celebrity and merely pay lip service to health and education.

[@bigdixxie3289]

I love how they say it's all the media, but not the media they're talking to at that moment.

[@floydpulley3509]

I thought they made it clear it was the owners of the platforms and not every average Joe who worked there. They might be very misinformed but they won't change their view if you twist their words.

[@tankgrrl]

@@floydpulley3509 That then implies, according to that woman's 'not you' words, that this video is now also a lie. Because the BBC published it. It can't be both things. They can't have it both ways.

[@floydpulley3509]

@@tankgrrl its not about lying. It's about shaping the truth in a way that sells or pushes agendas. There will be honest media too.

[@craigblyth783]

its funny they say its all the medias fault....but use the media to put there point across....hypocrisy or what

[@floydpulley3509]

@@craigblyth783 banks are corrupt, doesn't stop me using them to store my cash. Media may be biased but it doesn't mean they can never be used for your own means.

[@mymia731]

Leaving any cult is hard. It always is. Because to leave, you have to embrace uncertainty and as human beings we hate that.

[@Kick_Rocks]

If you are a liberal that is also cult.

[@user-yl3dr1bz8f]

@@Kick_Rocks he was talking about the insane Qanon cult, stop the whataboutism and keep on topic. What’s your take on the insanity of Qanon? And who do they vote?

[@Plethorality]

@@Kick_Rocks so is staying stuck in either / or thinking.

[@TamNguyen-wf1uk]

And they said Religion in Middle East was Extreme and Violent. Now look at our country

[@standinginthegap7118]

Honestly, I have very conservative views most of the time, but this stuff is really ridiculous. I have a close friend of mine that is all into this stuff. I just don't understand how she can believe that there are body doubles in political offices. Lizard people, Donald Trump is really secretly president. All 2o21 every couple of weeks to a month she would text me that the country's power grid was going down. She believes JFK jr isn't dead. It really makes me so sad. I worked with her for a year and she's intelligent and generally a very grounded person. At least she used to be. I just don't understand it.

[@nikeventus3756]

Hmm I see, I know a fact that mainstream media is a joke I would suggest to avoid it about these topics because all they do is a show, deceive people, tell some truth and mislead you so you’ll never see a real picture. It’s been done for decades and now we live in polished system with massive propaganda and censorship. I don’t know much about quanon but it may be some sort of controlled opposition to mislead those who are aware that something is not right in our world and make them to look insane because there are lots of people around the world are waking up. I have different sources about what is going on and yes there are satanic rituals, killing kids, 911 is an inside job, JFK is probably a joke but most funny is that many conspiracy theories are not theories, just lots of misinformation in media, fake news, etc. Like come on people when you’ll wake up?

[@Nikkk6969]

I really started looking into it and had to use duck duck go to even find anything besides what seemed like hundreds of news articles. I have common sense, so I thought it’s pretty weird it’s suppressed so much in the first place if it’s all false. I found a pdf with all the posts and it’s actually scary stuff, I’m not sure how much of it is real but whoever it is really knows their stuff. But they are supposedly intelligence / government insiders, a lot of it is true sadly.

[@standinginthegap7118]

@@Nikkk6969 there is a lot going on. Our governments are all in it together. Believe me, I know. But some of this stuff, it's just crazy. I think that's how they keep people in it.They acknowledge the real problems instead of censoring it and saying it isn't happening. But that's how they keep these people in what I consider a cult. You have to remember there are lots of podcasters making a fortune off of spreading this information. Making money selling firearms, survival gear. If they say the truth, no lizard people, Pelosi is alive and well, Trump lost and is eating a Trump burger in Trump tower licking his wounds, and socialism is a serious threat to your current way of life everyone stops listening to them and their income is over because they aren't real investigators or journalists and they don't have anything else to peddle.

[@sarfaraz.hosseini]

@@standinginthegap7118 It's not really a conservative issue, but cultural. After the Revolutionary War, there was fear in New England the British were secretly using sheep to recolonize the nation. Great conservative writers like George Will have outlined the threat this new right wing ideology poses to both Conservatism, and the Republic. Conservatism used to have lots of policy ideas, but the GOP is more a personality cult, which enjoys trolling. Trump and Q are not causes, but symptoms of the center right's failures in both parties, and the failures of American institutions like the free press to earn the trust of the people. There's no easy solutions sadly.

[@Khemith_Demon_Hours]

@@nikeventus3756 Your whole post is gaslighting. "If you see bias in the media then cant trust them but you can trust a bunch of nutters online who think Hillary drinks blood!"

[@littlechickenfarm2436]

Showing this man a video of a Qanon conference is like giving a drink to an alcoholic.

[@CuttinUpGetGapped]

Spot On

[@Thomas-kj1fk]

And calling it a "Qanon conference" demonstrates this video is fake.

[@fatsilver5905]

When a mix of extreme anxiety and ignorance happen you get this. Poor (dangerous) people

[@scintillasparkles]

I agree. The concept of amygdala hijack, as espoused by Daniel Goleman and further described by cognitive neuroscientists such as Leor Zmigrod at Cambridge, explains a lot.

[@VelcroKittie]

A certain personality type is drawn to Qanon. The same personality types were drawn to cults over the past decades. Many of them are genuinely good people who feel a little lost in the world and are trying to make sense of it, but Qanon has a very nasty, anti-social element to it. In another place and time people may have joined a cult because there were searching for meaning. They didn't specifically harm anybody, and more than likely harmed themselves but Qanon is an entirely different beast.

[@lovespurpleflowers]

We are all doing great out there, are you? Wait for it……….‼️

[@f.m8550]

I was on a date with an unknown Trump supporter. The minute it was out that I disagree he walked off. ✋ it was hilarious 😂 😄

[@udonnomi6958]

Mission Failed Successfully! 😆

[@b.a.r.3687]

Trump supporters can’t find dates because no women in their right mind want to date someone who supports, racism, lies, misogyny and domestic terrorism. That should be a question on dating apps. 😂

[@fieryheadedgirl]

I met a man on a dating app and we'd been chatting nicely and arranging to meet. He acted super keen. I suggested a nice spot which I said "has outdoor seating..." and his tone flipped 180 and he asked me "you don't really believe in covid do you? You're not gonna tell me you're VACCINATED next, are you?" Moments later he called me crazy and stupid, then he deleted and blocked me. (And for anyone wondering, I didn't say anything mean-spirited / confrontational / I didn't argue my stance... all I did was confirm I'd been vaccinated).

[@RuleofFive]

@@fieryheadedgirl You dodged a bullet with him.

[@RuleofFive]

@rivir phoenix = Q8 Yes "Q" lies all the time: 1. Pizza gate: children in the basement of a pizza shop. Only the shop has no basement or children. 2. Wayfair sex trafficking is completely false 3. Trump would arrest Biden on Inauguration Day and go back into the White House......LIE. It's followed by delusional people. Get some help.

[@Dapper_Dean]

Dude has a tattoo of JFK and a Trump shirt. JFK would never have sided with these crazy people. 🙄 JFK was a logical person and a humanitarian. Trump, not so much. So much contradictions in one guy.

[@Ukraineaissance2014]

I always find it insane how Fox news and republicans lionise JFK. If he hadnt become a martyr of sorts by being murdered and existed nowadays they would call his political position 'communist '

[@floydpulley3509]

Didn't JFK expose the elite controlling the banking system creating the corruption system we're in then get assassinated? I'm not a believer of this stuff but I did see that speech.

[@benjones8977]

I myself don’t believe in Q. There’s been too many promises by this group about Trump getting back in office, about certain things and certain people in the government and none of it has come true. So if you were going to go by the timeline they all were pushing, all of it is a fraud! So what we do know. We know that our government is controlled by the federal reserve and the central banking system. We know that the WHO and the UN are also controlled by this group. So is it so hard to believe that they have a PSYOP in pushing Qanon in order to make sure that society won’t act to change things, but we’ll just sit back and wait for somebody else to do the dirty work! The real question everybody needs to ask themselves is who are the real players pushing this agenda and why! It’s the same players like the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers, the Wahlberg’s and other names we probably never ever heard of. The Rockefellers sold most of their gas and oil reserves a few years before they started pushing this green agenda. Then they brought in the crypto currencies, because they knew the dollar would eventually collapse like every single other currency in history has! We all know that Jeffrey Epstein was murdered in order to keep those who participated in certain evil practices to keep their names out of the press. Which is pretty easy to do considering the press is good controlled by the state, and those who had any doubts about this soon found out after the last election was over. So yes there is a deep state who has the number of neocon players in every aspect of our government and then lots of other governments also. It goes way back even before Kennedy was assassinated. I suggest everybody read the coming collapse of the petrodollar system by Jerry Robinson. This is free on the Internet. You have to really understand economics and history to know what’s happening. There is a conspiracy against the people by these oligarchs, but it makes sense that they would put the CIA up to creating QAnon in order to make people look crazy. You know you hear it all the time your a conspiracy theorist if you believe in not just the Q, but any of what I’ve mentioned. I would suggest that everybody also listen to Nelson Walters video channel, he explains a lot of what’s happening. I would also listen to the Ice Age farmer. 🖖

[@Dinomrgandr]

just watch Fall of Kabala and than talk stuff pls..

[@benjones8977]

@@Dinomrgandr Yes that was appalling! The neocons are back in charge after Trump left. Remember Trump never started any wars, but Biden did within a year! They left Afghanistan because they had a bigger agenda. Trump has slowed them down four years! If you’ve noticed you see that this administration is against the United States people also. The Federal Reserve and the central banks along with WEF are pushing for one world government, one world religion and control with E.S.G. in social credit scores. This is modern day slavery! Notice how the media is now totally controlled in the US. The food supply is being decimated in order to control the citizens. The borders are wide-open, because they want the United States to not be a sovereign country anymore. The societies morals are under attack from every direction. Trying to tell people they don’t know who they are anymore, man or woman or? They’re trying to get all the guns from the people, and they’re willing to do anything to do it. All you have to look at is Australia and Canada to see what’s happening! If you’re from another part of the world, the citizens of the United States are not your enemy, it’s the oligarchs who control the central banks in the federal reserve who are! Our own government doesn’t give a rip about any of its citizens. All you have to do is watch them try to inject everybody with the poisons they’re pushing! The government and economy are about to collapse, along with the currency. 🖖

[@ericgill5069]

Man this wasn’t nearly long enough. Amazing production overall, needs to be a full length documentary.

[@Dave-te5bs]

I agree

[@nicodinisi]

THIS

[@mustafasaed7766]

I really liked the observational nature.

[@mrsapplez2007]

AGREED

[@britneyvibes]

Agreed

[@RScott-g7s]

It's sad and scary that people are so easily led around.

[@killharrypothead]

Learn to Think... Then Think Again! -Q " Sir, you've had a bit too much to think. "-The Thought Police i.e. Your Local Government

[@joermnyc]

“You are a strange, sad, little man.” Buzz Lightyear to Q-followers.

[@missannthrope7395]

They call themselves Christians

[@guacamolekid3899]

we have 2 choices- one is globalism the other is populism- globalists want a one world government modeled after the Chinese social credit system- there would be no such thing as rights in their 'utopia'- populism simply means we govern ourselves by our own Constitution- Trump and Q are simply on the right side of history.

[@guacamolekid3899]

@@missannthrope7395 What do you mean by that?

[@Ste-The-Leo]

@@guacamolekid3899 Actually - if you want to be accurate, globalism has nothing to do with a single world government, or a social credits system, nor has globalism reduced the rights of citizens. That's just what people who don't know better, have been led to believe. Globalism is enacting trade and foreign policy on a global basis. Any nation that trades internationally for mutual profit, has diplomatic envoys, allies and agreements with other nations for mutual benefit, is acting as a globalist. Also, populism is actually defined by a belief that their society is split into "the people" and "the corrupt elite", a populist leader therefore claims that their campaign is the will of the people. It has nothing to do with the American constitution, in fact, a populist leader could rip it up and change everything, and would still be populist. Even ex-prez Trump, who never actually won a popular vote, is considered populist....

[@guacamolekid3899]

@@Ste-The-Leo Everything you just said is wrong- globalism is a ideology- what you are talking about is fair trad and getting along with other countries- Globalists want a ONE WORLD GOV- they are not shy about saying this- they want the chinese social credit system and their vax lies and madates- vax passports are PROOF- Populism is simply wanting to govern our own country by our own Constitution- And Trump won the popular vote if you don't count fake and illegal ballots- wake up

[@lowellpack9465]

Wen u vote for a clown u get a circus

[@rngboy1392]

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[@sirchriswitlessjesuitpuppe5804]

“If voting made any difference,they wouldn't let us do it.” ~ Mark Twain

[@jay0726]

100% Yes!"

[@Ste-The-Leo]

@@sirchriswitlessjesuitpuppe5804 Ironically, your quote is a fake one from years ago. Mark Twain is actually quoted as having said "In America we have a privilege other countries don't have. When a thing gets unbearable people can get rid of if at the ballot box". But instead of literary scholars, I'm assuming you're the sort to gather your knowledge from twitter or facebook posts?

[@sirchriswitlessjesuitpuppe5804]

@@Ste-The-Leo 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@markhand4530]

that women interviewed was so paranoid with her fears she was highly strung and aggressive people like her need mental health help but won't get any.

[@a564-c3q]

Mental health in the USA, a huge issue.

[@jacksonbauer5199]

This journalist deserves immense praise! I personally couldn’t sit through 10 seconds of a conversation with a Qer without bursting into uncontrollable laughter. She does a tremendous job of making Qers feel heard and that gives the world insight into the insanity that is trumpism

[@barrieparker200]

But why? You don’t have to believe what they say but it harms nobody to listen and understand why they may believe ?

[@GizmoGremlinDog]

@@barrieparker200 my mother is part of this whole Qanon cult and one does not simply "have a conversation" with them. It's always patronizing and shouty

[@ZiqM4]

​​ @Barrie Parker They've been programmed to completely dumb down the idea of conspiracies being real, its a fail-safe in their programming that allow them to completely bypass logical & rational thought even when its right infront of their eyes & ears. I'm not saying people should believe it to be true, but its nice to entertain ideas even if you find them silly.. might actually learn something outside your own ego-chamber. I'm completely unvaccinated(Pureblooded) never had the 'rona or any complications.. everything is open again. No one wears or even mentions the mask or that they had the vax. "the unvaccinated are not a threat to society. they are a threat to authority". Which brings me back to my original point that people are being programmed & doing exactly what Media, Government or their Golden Calfs in Hollywood tells them. If Media tells you to laugh at Qanon.. then you better laugh!

[@Flygsand]

@@GizmoGremlinDog Yeah, true. My mother is part of it as well.

[@lauraquigley1548]

Same

[@thisbushnell4824]

"Elites or whatever" I just want an excuse to turn my self-hate outward.

[@JB-hj7dm]

"If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's, but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other." -- General Ulysses S. Grant

[@squadnft5176]

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[@tigertiger1699]

Pretty logical that👍

[@Ste-The-Leo]

Your nation has a rich history of people using the term "patriotism" and "patriots" as terms to separate their followers from those who disagree with them.

[@EchoBravo370]

Trouble is both sides will believe they are the side of patriotism and intelligence.

[@tigertiger1699]

@@EchoBravo370 Yeap & the true test of reasoning skills😂👍

[@theresedavis2526]

"I've always been for the underdog." Lady, if you were for the underdog, you wouldn't be supporting the Conservative party! Conservatives are not for the underdog!

[@Kick_Rocks]

Yes they are. Who controls the mainstream media? It has a strong left wing bias, and you know it.

[@shaw12222]

@@Kick_Rocks Fox News is conservative, and also the most viewed cable news network, by far. They literally *are* mainstream news. Also, look at democratic policies: increased funding for early childhood education, relief for victims of predatory lending, expanded Medicare coverage for seniors - these are all policies for the common people. Trump passed a big tax cut for corporations and the corporations just funneled that into stock buy-backs, which benefits the investment class.

[@Kick_Rocks]

@@shaw12222 Democrats promise a lot, and never do anything. I know Fox is MSM. Did I say that I watch tons of Fox? I watch ALL of the news so I can formulate my opinions. I understand the whole story. The big picture. You can keep blaming Republicans for Democrats never fulfilling their promises. Hopefully one day you will leave your left wing bubble, and see that the UNIPARTY has no interest in serving the American people. Watch Jimmy Dore.

[@ShirleyTimple]

@@Kick_Rocks yes, the heroic conservatives and their little man god kings: the "Job Creators." Don't be an idiot, cuntservatives

[@alextric2812]

@@Kick_Rocks you didn’t even respond to the poster’s comment about how much of trumps actions and policies benefited corporations over the average man. Wouldn’t that be the opposite of an underdog? You want corporations to get bigger, more powerful, control more of the economy, and pay less taxes?

[@TheMcKenzieHaus]

A physical battle with who? The girl really said UN and I burst out laughing 😂 😂😂😂

[@Moamanly]

"girl"?

[@MaryMPringle]

Fundamentalist Christians don't like the UN--they go on about "one-worlders" as evil conspiracists trying to prevent the second coming of Christ, or something like that--it's not clear.

[@magatexan126]

@@MaryMPringle You don't have to convert to Christianity or join Qanon to see that the globalists engineer world crisis, commit crimes to humanity and make millions doing it. You've kidded yourself If you believe for one second Bill Gates, The UN, or the Rothschilds give two shits about the greater good of humanity.

[@BrightBlueJim]

I didn't hear anything funny in that.

[@turdfurgeson517]

Are you still laughing?

[@NashiHeartSoulSpirit]

If you take politics out of it; All you have is a group of people who are angry about the fact that they feel their choice doesn’t matter and the government will find a way to do what they want regardless.

[@Cecilia-ky3uw]

A lot of people dont want to vote

[@rando-w5h]

And now they dont sound like far right terrorists lol

[@MadCatLady28]

You don't need to make up some batshitinsane conspiracy about child sacrifice to argue that fact. The reality is that these abject morons undermine sane discourse about the problematic nature of government. They're HELPING the "elites" by being so bloody stupid they hamper any efforts to resolve issues.

[@PhillipAmthor]

So basically like half the black population of the usa because gerrymandering and their "democratic system" makes votes in certain states more valuable than in other states

[@ShirleyTimple]

Don't forget their obsession with the genitalia of children...

[@jameshaynes8300]

This is not journalism. And she did not provide facts about anything nor refute the remarks by supposed Q even though these ideas have been around far longer than the Q group. The comments on this video are also very bland.

[@desmahebiton4534]

They are on a par with people that get sucked into religious cults. They are all looking for something in their lives.

[@Ste-The-Leo]

Or just religion, as a whole really. If most of your people decide to follow the bastardised words and teachings of some Arab who died centuries ago, you must have a pretty gullible base to work with. Then there's the Muslim faith too...

[@dougreimer2912]

This was hard to watch and very troubling. We castigate North Korea, China and Russia but infact the US has become the craziest place on planet earth. Biden is not the answer. America's problems are beyond solving by one man or party. I don't know the answer and it leaves me despairing the future of this nation.

[@wandamatthews4271]

TRUMPS definitely not the answer!!!!!

[@dougreimer2912]

@@wandamatthews4271 Agreed!!

[@bnmbg731]

End of the Empire

[@rackbites]

Jacob claimed in his defence that his mental health issue impacted his decision that caused his actions on Jan 6th. He pleased with the court essentially asking for mercy over this issue and then when they showed mercy with a lenient sentence he took it for 2 months and then went straight back to what he was doing and had claimed was a result of a mental health issue. This is the proven behaviour of the spiritual leader of Q ... the role model he wants to set for others behaviour.

[@EH23831]

Once you convince people that everyone is lying to them (“don’t believe what you see or hear”) they’re gone - there’s no getting through to them. 😢

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

There is just as little hope trying to convince a person that governments do lie

[@EH23831]

@@julianciahaconsulting8663 maybe- but I’ve never met anyone who believes that the government is always truthful

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

@@EH23831 The real danger in this issue comes not from "conspiracy theories" but from those who have the power to both decide what is a "conspiracy theory" and what is "misinformation" and to be able to censor what is deemed to be a "conspiracy theory" or "misinformation". History shows that those who exercise that power always abuse that power by extending it to include any news and information that threatens their having that power. Never trust a censor because where there is Censorship there is someone lying to you or someone hiding something from you. Once you have a government directing censorship nothing ever good comes from it- especially for the average citizen.

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

@@EH23831 Dont you see though where this is going....the MSM has now convinced many people that all "conspiracy theories" or alternative explanations to the Official Narrative are dangerous and wrong and to be automatically dismissed...the MSM brings up totally laughable theories like flat earth etc to depict all such theories as crazy....never mentioning the many many so called conspiracy theories that were proven correct...the end result is that the message being driven into people is that the Official Narrative is the Truth and any other explanations are crazy and that anyone who questions the Official Narrative is thereby crazy too..and that is not good in a Democracy at all.

[@julianciahaconsulting8663]

@@EH23831 i have never met a so called "conspiracy theorist" who believes in Flat Earth or because they believe in one specific "conspiracy theory" that they believe in every "conspiracy theory"....& when it comes to "conspiracy theories: that have been proven false well its the Mainstream Media that promoted the two biggest one that being RussiaGate and that Hunter Biden's laptop being "russian disinformation". Two false conspiracy theories pushed hard by the MSM (and the US Democrat party) that greatly influenced the outcome of a presidential election. Now that is far far greater real harm done than any con theory pushed by so called "Qanon" has ever done.

[@jkfdkjjd]

I think this is what happens when you have maybe the most powerful person in the world validating and encouraging these sorts of people and ideas. I mean as an example think of mid 20th century Germany... exactly the same sort of effect on people, I am sure there were some similarily whacked out people walking about the place after ww2 and the removal of that regime.

[@tagb1107]

Q is a division psyop. Wake up. Is is there to divide and pen people into different groups. The left right paradigm. To make those who believe in any conspiracies look crazy. How can anyone still not see through this nonsense.

[@guacamolekid3899]

you don't know your history very weil. Hitler was a globalist funded by globalists.

[@t1n4444]

@David Mass formation psychosis? Does this exist in reality? Or is it a term coined by some poor person suffering from psychosis?

[@t1n4444]

@Mike Kane Indeed, conspiracy theorists don't need any help to reinforce what others describe as their delusional behaviour. However, consider a constant stream of support, as in disinformation, from some entity under any name, feeding the anxiety of conspiracy theorists. For all anyone knows these entities, say QAnon, are the "weapons" deployed by outside agencies, eg Russia, to destabilise another country, eg US. Russia is just as adept at "psyops" as any other nation, perhaps even more so. Underestimating Putin would be a grave mistake. Ditto Jinping. Ditto Kim Jong-un. Nobody really knows who or what QAnon really is. Theories within theories suggest QAnon is not "a" person as such and could be several persons, but not necessarily acting in concert per se. To have different factions within a country at each others' throats can only benefit putative enemies. We now see factions within factions in disagreement over such issues as the Trump we see "today" not being Trumpian enough. Some of his once followers considered his admission to having a booster vaccination as something of a betrayal. It may be if Trump is found guilty of fraudulent financial activities more of his erstwhile followers might consider they are, or were, supporting an alleged crook. Simply being a conspiracy theorist does not imply they are dishonest, misguided in our eyes perhaps, but sincere in their beliefs. In other words they are inately honest and may be very disappointed should their old leader be convicted of dishonesty. We have decidedly similar feelings towards Boris, who appears to be pathologically unable to answer any question with entire honesty. It is almost as if he is "acting" the role of PM and is perfectly content to rewrite his "lines" as he sees fit ... or forgets his lines altogether. The entire planet is now aware that Boris feels as if he can busk his way out of embarrassing situations by ad-libbing, not forgetting references to "Peppa Pig". Most of us feel he is supposed to be running a country ... not doing "stand up". How soon will we see him feature on "Live at the Apollo" or "Mock the Week" ... specialising in "self parody"?

[@TheytellToomanylies]

Epstein suicided, maxwell, guilty of her part played in international child trafficking ring 🤔 who were the customers?

[@AmedeeBoulette]

I’m a Canadian and you have no idea how terrifying and repulsive it is to have such a scary country as a neighbour….

Get over yourself. They are your best defence from invasion by Russia or China - and provide you with the security to not train an adequate military of your own. Even North Korea could probably stroll in and take your country

[@nantturi]

@ The fact you think that is nuts... Canada has defeated the USA in 1 civil war we also burnt down the white house once. But underestimate us more please :D

[@selurxelpirt]

@ Canada actually has some of the best troops in the world besides the US Marines, and for many years the longest-distance sniper kill world record was held by a Canadian man, Robert Furlong. But keep talking shit.

[@wisegal88]

🇺🇸 🇺🇲 🇺🇸

[@happyjonn9242]

@@nantturi what's that all aboot?

[@sarag1158]

I would feel sorry for these people if they weren't a walking health hazard

[@tazzmaniandevilboy42]

What's your problem?

[@boblotoldo3051]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@floriantesto4925]

@@tazzmaniandevilboy42 the problem is that these people storm the capital with riffles and try to kidnap democratic politicians and try to "rescue the children" in Pizza restaurants 😏

[@snootyfox.indahouse]

How about now...still feel sorry ...or are you still blind. Look at what has transpired since your comment. Smh

[@Yippee-kiyay-Mclain]

Just scrolling down this thread, I’ve seen people start to argue. I don’t even know what to do anymore.

[@rickmitchell7835]

Q'anon is make believe.

[@livingpurgatory3]

Most so called "conservatives" don't believe in q. Much evidence it was staged. As genuine as 18 guys from Saudi taking down us on nine ll. Then go in and take out 2 countries not involved

[@ItAlwaysEnds]

There were big BLM social media groups ran by an Aussie who made it rich, just saying 🙃

[@lemdixon01]

Psyop

[@niblet112]

No such thing as qanon. There 2 separate things.

[@ColonelCarnage]

Q’anon hasn’t really been a thing in years. By the time the left started screaming about it it was already irrelevant.

[@cartoonraccoon2078]

Lost me in the first 7 seconds when his argument was "Why not?".

[@Xavier-Denis]

It reminds me Charles Manson's followers but in a bigger scale. Scary isn't it?

Alec Baldwin killed more people on a movie set than all the Capitol Hill rioters combined but ok

[@Xavier-Denis]

@ You were on the Capitol Hill ?

[@montycasper4300]

@ One police officer was pepper sprayed, suffered a stroke and died, 16 others were injured, 3 others have since committed suicide. Then there's the deluded woman who was shot trying to force herself through a window into the house of representatives. What isn't measured are the irreparable damage done to America internally and externally. 12% of democrats think future elections will be fair and accurate, 34% of Republicans think the sane way. That's the goal of totalitarianism, they hold elections too, but few bother to vote. Donald Trump didn't start this, it's been part of the republican playbook since the 80's and Gingrich took it to another level, but Trump was the first openly authoritarian republican president seeking to stage a coup. He won't be the last.

@@montycasper4300 As I said - The Capitol Hill rioters didn't kill anyone. The only person killed was unarmed 14 year air-force military veteran Ashley Babbit. The lie that the rioters killed a policeman is just that - a lie. Alec Baldwin killed more people on a movie set

[@montycasper4300]

@ OK, that's your mantra, stick with that. Babbitt was a victim of the echo chamber media and lies piled upon lies, hopefully you aren't similarly self programmed.

[@wheres_bears1378]

My friend is still well and truly stuck in the abyss, lost all his friends and believes q is some Jesus like figure …… very sad. Lost a friend of 30 years. The common thread with these people I’ve noticed is that they aren’t content with their lives and this gives them a sense of control and purpose

[@MrRazorblade999]

And they are very often not very bright, to put it mildly.

[@geniodiez7432]

That guy just took you for a ride . He just wanted his time in limelight. His clinging to q’anon is never and will never be shaken . He’s a dork .

[@jeannietarantola8173]

There's an older guy in the naborhood that had a Biden bumper sticker on. His car. So this Maga, Q guy starts screaming at him. This guy is a Vietnam veteran. He's telling him you a traitor and that he's a patriot . This guy has never served in the military lives at home with his mom. So older guy is a marine and has had enough. But he's 70 years old and in poor health. By this time there are several people outside trying to reason with q guy. That didn't go well. This is my example. There are so many people that have been suck into this madness. The cops should up took the guy to jail. As they were putting him in the cop car he screams convert or die. There's a lot more to the story I won't bore you with. This is serious .

[@t.h.8475]

These people are in the same boat as cult members. I would hate to think I was that gullible.

[@skinnydog4]

Well anybody listening to main stream media needs to do research. There is no Qanons. There is Q and there is Anons. They are not combined. Its.the current administration that came up with this stupid qanon shaman crap. Q is a special force military group. Anons are people just forwarding the Q drops or Intel. That's when you know the media is lieing. Many people do need to dig deeper in research, many of the conspiracies are true. Look at senators quitting, senators getting fired, head of corporations quitting or "retiring" , you gotta follow the money of the elite

[@Kick_Rocks]

If you are a leftist then you are in a cult as well.

[@lobbyboy7997]

If you believed that stuff about Corona originating from bat soup in some dodgy market, turns out you actually are.

[@cbot375]

@@Kick_Rocks Listen to your conspiracy theory, say it outloud in a normal social interaction with people you've never spoken to or met. Say it outloud, now tell me you're not crazy.

[@Kick_Rocks]

@@cbot375 What conspiracy theory? I haven't even said anything that is a conspiracy theory. If you are saying that the right is a cult, it's clear as day that the left is a cult as well. The group think, casting out people from the group that disagree etc.

[@bigvwfan]

Sad, tragic, underachieving human beings desperate to appear edgy and relevant even if it means ditching dignity and self respect in favour of propaganda and falsehood.

[@deborahmorales7096]

These people are case in point why ignoring America’s mental health illnesses was an exquisitely bad idea.

[@ethanvilla4418]

Imagine thinking that Trump, a guy with multiple accusers (one who was 13 at the time of her claim of assault) is some kind of savior figure in this equation? These people need help.

[@southpaw8924]

If you ask idiots questions you have a good chance of idiotic answers... just saying 🤷🏿

[@justsomegirlwithoutamustache]

Still makes for an interesting video

[@Whitey_Ford]

I don’t think this is a conspiracy. I think it’s 100 percent accurate.

[@TheRobel101]

It took me a while to find a comment like yours. But we know that youtube filter comments. To think most people here dont think a elite classs exist…

[@hankherchiv8301]

"Stop hating each other because you disagree " Great sign

[@nityovlogs]

"I'd love a physical battle" said a deep thinker.

[@jonhamilton5789]

A stiff breeze would take her down.

[@Plethorality]

never.

[@LatinaChef1986]

As an American, I apologize for this hot mess express. Not all of us feel this way and I find these types of folks to be outlandish and in need of some mental help.

[@tommy1273]

Hot mess express 😂😂😂

[@jasonstevenson110]

More obsession with Trump. Forget him and worry about your policies. The farcical Afghanistan withdrawal is an example what happens when you obsess over this many and don't focus on executing policies.

[@marklapena854]

‘I believe wholeheartedly.’ ‘Why?’ ‘Why not?’ That pretty much sums up conspiracy theorists. Here’s something to believe. Why not believe in it?

[@BD4-ManchesterIsRed]

"We cannot change the world without changing our thinking." - Albert Einstein

[@warrior7038]

@@BD4-ManchesterIsRed Why, when it's you who's having a flight in the comments. You both need to grow up.

[@BD4-ManchesterIsRed]

@@warrior7038 Says the guy who only sees left and right and if you're not agreed with it's lies or propaganda. You need to grow up too and improve your IQ.

[@BD4-ManchesterIsRed]

@@warrior7038 I see you're racist too. I'd bet my last penny that you're too much of a whimp to admit it. I'm right, aren't I?

[@warrior7038]

@@BD4-ManchesterIsRed No, you're not, I have friends from multiple backgrounds and I love them, and you can bet all you want, it's your problem if you immediately resign to tell anyone with a different opinion that they're racists, maybe it's a way of you coping with reality and and find yourself morally superior to others, which unfortunately, you're not.

[@BD4-ManchesterIsRed]

@@warrior7038 So why do you say that George Floyd's death wasn't murder?

[@shwicksdad]

You can tell these are all, as they saying goes, "Weak minded people" Their thinking and compression skills are undeveloped and they are easily manipulated and convinced of things that any person with fully developed thinking and comprehension skills would dismiss as outrageous and senseless. Their lack of thinking and comprehension abilities make them easy to exploit.

[@matthewbartz1346]

Chansley was never locked up. That video was made 1 month after j6

[@murdermuseum8280]

I like how they lump all the conspiracies into Qanon to discredit it. There is something strange going on.

[@KS-xd8zi]

I thought the same.

[@pete3122]

Ooooooo spooky, let’s all upgrade the thickness of our tin foil guys. Trump 2024

[@MF-Rell]

​@@pete3122You so feel that way a year later?😂😂😂

[@88mphDrBrown]

"They"??? Q drops make cryptic references to uncountable different conspiracy theories and the qanon community has lumped every conspiracy theory imaginable into Qanon nonsense. Flat earth ✔ reptilian aliens ✔ JFK ✔ Rothschilds ✔ NWO ✔ and on and on and on.

[@astolfo-official]

Well, yeah obviously.

[@brooklynnchick]

The cognitive dissonance created by trying to understand how intelligent Americans have been hoodwinked with this paranoia is crushing me righ’ now.

[@iconoclasttastic9258]

No-one that falls for a 4-chan trolling can be considered intelligent. You have to be a special kind of stupid for that.

[@uriituw]

It doesn’t matter how crazy an idea gets, they’re people who’ll believe it.

[@MM-iy7gz]

Remember when we ignored crazy people?

[@teohorereruwhiu1875]

i am not apart of this cult nor did i know about it till now but everything they are saying i have always believed in...tell me why i think that. wake up people

[@teohorereruwhiu1875]

There is so much proof you just need to see.

[@teohorereruwhiu1875]

i don't follow donald trump i do not trust anybody in the system or the law but i believe the theories are true i also think the media is totally corrupted and is used to brainwash but might as well take advantage of it and study up and put it out there to build up the community