What Really Happened Between Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat | Trade Saga Thoughts & What's Next

[@anthonyd_heat]

What percent of the blame do you put on Pat Riley vs Jimmy Butler?

[@AlexAugustin-th6gv]

75% Pat Riley and 25% Jimmy Butler. I don't like when the players quit on their teams. That's disrespectful. Jimmy Butler has quit on us and it hurts my feelings cause I was rooting for him and wanted him to win a championship with the Heat badly. Jimmy Butler has a player option for next year. He could prove to Pat Riley that he deserves a max contract by winning a championship this season and going crazy in the playoffs once again, but instead he quits on the team. That makes me sad. I love Jimmy Butler and will always be a fan. I want him to win a championship so bad whether it's in Miami or somewhere else. I'll be rooting for him either way, unless he plays us in the Finals then I'll be rooting for Miami to win. 😂 Life ain't always fair. I wish Jimmy Butler nothing but the best. I still wanna see the Miami Heat compete and make the playoffs and give it their all this season with or without playoff Jimmy. Nothing last forever. Always remember that. God is good bro. #GoHeat

[@Whatsdopey]

Most of the blame goes to Pat

[@Montro_Full]

75% on Jimmy Butler, here's why. 1. Jymmy wanted Kyle Laury, and Pat brought him here. They brought Terry Rozier, it just hasn't worked out. 2. Pat let Jimmy be Jimmy. 3. Jimmy has been injury prone. 4. Jimmy has missed a lot of games every season. 5. Jimmy doesn't put the effort into the regular season. 6. Jimmy talks trash on the sidelines, not respecting his teammates or the organization. 7. Jimmy has been paid his money regardless of all this. 8. I don't believe he will get paid more by another organization than he's getting paid right now. 9. Pat just got tired of the trolling DIVA. He likes professionalism in basketball. That's why Bam Adebayo is the team Captain.

[@StevenHughes-hr5hp]

@@anthonyd_heat How does anyone know? Was Jimmy being stubborn and sticking to his numbers refusing to negotiate or was the Heat management?

[@HiaLeo]

theres no blame in us not winning a chip, we got close. if it was easy everybody would do it. but jimmy’s exit is total bullshit and a shameful way to end your tenure here. punishing his teammates and fans over pat riley’s words.

[@HiaLeo]

i wanted jimmy to get his extension, but his attitude is showing me exactly how right Pat is about him.

[@mohamadoumbaye8249]

Sorry for your loss Ant. Prayers to you and your family

[@michaelschoo2730]

Seems to me that the weirdness started when the Heat did not get Lillard, but got Emo Jimmy instead. The problem started with the bad Lowery deal. Not sure who to blame for all this.

[@julioinfanteramos6535]

Pat for pandering to Jimmy

[@Fixing_the_system]

I said quite a few times in your comments last season how Jimmy didnt seem to be playing hard and that the Heat should trade him sooner rather than later.. Heat confirmed I was right.. its visible on the court.. you getting paid 40 million to play basketball.. i dont care what else going on, as long as those checks clearing, he should be playing hard.. "i just wanna play basketball".. and make commercials.. i dont take him seriously anymore

[@rushainegordon]

Agreed bro

[@julioinfanteramos6535]

Yup, he spend all last season filming a Netflix show, recording a country album, opening a coffee shop and commercials, while the rest of the team focused on playing ball 🤷🏽

[@alexdrakeus1772]

​@@julioinfanteramos6535Don't forget that cringe cowboy fall out boy music video.

[@tonygumbs3429]

Pat gets most of the blame. It could have been handled better, the communique, the rebuilding and deconstruction of the team in the past 2 years. This is something we are supposed to be better at after unburying our heads from DWade. But we”ve gotten worse, Pat has gotten worse and he has to reflect on these huge communication mistakes.

[@rushainegordon]

U play at a high level u get paid at a high level simple

[@Gamingcollector123]

I blame jimmy imma be real man Pat did try in the trades but it never worked out is what it is that’s what happens when you have to rely on trades tbh Not gonna lie jimmy making a stink is very annoying like play out your contract man you’re making 50+ mill a year and crying about contracts like it’s insane to me… Let’s get great young assets and some draft capital and get this man outta here.

[@smarvysmarv8735]

POR literally came out and said they were not interested in herro for Dame because they already had young guards (Which I think they missed out because Herro is out balling their guards now). The Blazers then got a worse deal for Lillard. Not saying that Pat is right, but he did try to get Dame. POR was just didn’t want Dame in Miami.

[@jareddickerson5127]

Jimmy is an Opp now. We've finally come full circle

[@mohamadoumbaye8249]

I guarantee this has nothing to do with jimmy having no help (which is a myth but thats a conversation for another day) if the heat gave him the max but downgraded the roster even further, hed still be here. He literally just wants his money (which isnt a bad thing but lets not act like its any more than that)

[@Sienna12756]

Why is that a bad thing?? Yawl act like you wouldn’t be asking your corporate ceo for money if it was possible to get the max salary. God forbid he wants his money, what’s so wrong?? And it’s not rocket science to see this roster is far from a contender roster? He doesn’t need to say it out loud for anyone to see.

[@weswith360s]

​@@Sienna12756He's getting paid $48 million this season and has a $52 million player option and he wants another extension at his age? Yeah not the way he's playing

[@mohamadoumbaye8249]

@@Sienna12756 literally said “which isnt a bad thing” in my comment. But yes, i agree, Jimmy has every right to ask for the max money he can possibly get (which is looking out for himself) and the organization has every right to not want to give him the max he can possibly get (which is looking out for them) Jimmy doesn’t owe us anything and the organization also doesn’t owe him anything. Just dont like the narrative that he wants to leave cause of the roster cause its clearly just the extension

[@mohamadoumbaye8249]

@@weswith360s agreed!!

[@uniteusone]

Still sorry for your loss ant,lost my dad recently too …talk about feeling empty…hope you’re taking time to focus on yourself

[@antdarant1]

Imma say 75% on Pat and the FO and 25% on Jimmy. To be honest Pat did everything he could to try to get Jimmy help, especially the Dame situation and y'know how that ended. Even Adam Silver prevented another miami superteam. I really hate how Jimmy is handling this. I get you want the extension but at the very least be a professional like how Dame is doing with the bucks. You don't just quit on the team like that. It's very disrespectful and it hurts my feelings alot cause I was rooting for him. I have his jersey and wanted him to win a championship with the Heat that badly. If this is how Jimmy wants to go out then you have to trade him and this breaks my heart. If the Heat can get Fox then it'll be a fresh new start to pair Bam with Herro.

[@dred9174]

With how Herros playing I'm glad we didn't get Dame.

[@josematos6579]

Sorry for your lost my friend. 🙏🏻

[@blackcitywhitelights]

"The 80 year old man" you reference has been here for 28 years and if you're going to reference taking the Heat out of mediocrity and winning titles then you should be siding with the "80 year old". The 80 year old brought us our first ring as a coach and guided us to 2 more in the front office. Jimmy has been here 6 years and the only time he's sniffed the finals is in a Heat uniform, not in Chicago, Philly or Minnesota. Jimmy would be singing the Heat's praises if they guaranteed him 60 million a year on the extension so this talk about him caring about getting help is irrelevant. The time he asked for help he forced them to get an overweight and out of shape Lowry. We can all appreciate what Jimmy has done in his time here but it isn't even close to what Pat Riley the 80-year-old has done. Not even in the same galaxy.

[@RobertWatkins-xu9xw]

Jimmy Butler practice with them young guys he know they're coming up

[@pigeonbass11]

Im sorry about your dad. Condolences.

[@solracblonde9480]

Condolences 🙏 Anthony DiNardo. Im sorry you lost your pops.

[@randynemenzo9110]

I disagree with "you win rings with superstars". That does not work anymore. The teams who have won championships lately have been those who built around their drafted players. GSW, Nuggets, Celtics, and yes even Miami and Toronto with Lowry as a centerpiece.

[@StevenHughes-hr5hp]

Is it not obvious? Just like with Dwyane Wade Pat Riley lowballed his contract negotiations and Jimmy got pissed.

[@rushainegordon]

Bro ingl to u wade didn’t do shii after he left Miami he realized his mistake and came back players want a big pay day when they won’t be able to maintain that style of play they were once on wade realized his mistake and came back to the Heat the reason LeBron and Curry get pay days is cause they prove they can maintain their style of play for a prolonged period of time even after age Jimmy hasn’t and he’s jus not them or him let him walk basket ball is a business too

[@StevenHughes-hr5hp]

@rushainegordon Did I say Riley was wrong? I said that was why Wade left. He was the one who made the mistake of opting out just because LeBron did.

[@Maw3c89]

You hit it on the head with Jimmy having toxic endings with teams being similar to Pat having toxic endings with superstar players. They are probably too much alike

[@smackpopevevo6000]

The best trade Riley made to help butler was crowder and iggy trading for oladipo wasn’t really good considering he was already damaged goods the Lowry signing was years late and rozier simply isn’t working

[@pigeonbass11]

I question Pat for letting Jae and Iguadala go. Including especially Derrick Jones Jr.

[@16eyez]

@@pigeonbass11 also Caleb and Vincent

[@dred9174]

We can't forget that we got outbid in basically every situation because of those 2 first round picks we owed because of the Dragic trade.

[@RaulMartinez-iq8kx]

Jimmy b has been a cancer everywhere he has gone:Chicago,Philly,Minnesota and now Miami

[@benzel1811]

Jimmy is mercurial. But he did lead us to two NBA final appearances. Would’ve won a ring if he had the right support, let’s not quickly forget that.

[@joefried6604]

Don’t get me wrong .. There are many talented Miami Heat Shows out there on KZbin - Podcasts . Over a Dozen My Ranking 1) AD Hands NUMBER 2) Wes Goldberg ( Locked On Heat )? 3) Brenden Tobin (Heat Best Reporter)

[@ratmoneyg]

Same but switch 2 and 3 for me. Love Tobes

[@SocialJWA1Love]

You ghosted? Jimmy got suspended 7 games

[@anthonyd_heat]

@@SocialJWA1Love I saw

[@joefried6604]

I am an old Head . 56 . Pat Riley Fan since the Show Time Lakers show in the 80’s Riley old school HIGE EGO . It’s Pat’s way or the Highway which is old school ! 1995 he told the NY Knicks to KICK Rocks with a Fax with his Resignation ! Pat and LeBron Parted ways in a very TOXIC way Pat told Wade to Kick rocks

[@LeonCook34]

Y’all don’t get it it’s not just about the money. Jimmy likes feeling wanted every stop before teams was always valuing other players he comes here it’s the same thing the heat didn’t put the proper team around him.

[@whotheproducer]

2:40 see how his arms are crossed . He’s uncomfortable

[@Sojourner12]

I say let Jimmy Butler sit at home until he gets his trade. Until that time, he will be a constant distraction. I enjoy your work ... a little emotional from time to time, but at least you don't drown yourself with a bottle of whiskey.🤪

[@poppahoggg2587]

If you think about Miami,turnt Jimmy Butler into a Diva

[@juliogonzalez4764]

For the past 2 years and 32 games the Heat are a .500 playin team. Lowry was on Jimmy.

[@Link_aura]

You don't tell a grwon man to shut his mouth unless you tryna fight

[@rushainegordon]

He should of shut up fr

[@jareddickerson5127]

How soft do you have to be to get this butthurt over a "keep your mouth shut" from the Godfather himself

[@flave3453]

The front office did the right thing. The only Star we had a chance to get was Dame. If they got Dame they would have thrown away their future n Dame hasn’t moved the needle with Gianis. I like our young players. If they clear the books, they’ll be able to get a star. Riley or Butler…. Riley 100%. He created this organization. Jimmy is bi polar. Good riddance.

[@erwinvarela1309]

Road to 6000 subscribers.

[@Steve_305]

If Jimmy gets traded for Paul George shit is going to be ridiculously hilarious if that happened

[@vatsal2189]

2020 run hurt this team more then helped them. I don’t think the Jimmy run was failure.

[@Sojourner12]

The Heat have been robbing Peter to pay Paul for so many years now, and it has finally caught up with them. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[@robb5289]

Pat waited too long to trade Jimmy. Now they are negotiating from a position of weakness, no leverage. Another screw up by this front office.

[@HiaLeo]

16:13 to 16:37 is exactly how i feel.

[@RobertWatkins-xu9xw]

The truth is Jimmy Butler quit on his teammates

[@danielbrown4395]

I find it interesting how Khawii Leonard has his first action after a long time out right around the same time that butler is making a stink. Clippers/HEAT trade coming soon

[@PointJovic]

Here’s my trade Jimmy idea that I think you would dig. GSW gets Jimmy Jaime and J Rich MIA gets Kuminga, Schroder, Peyton, and Lonzo Ball from CHI CHI gets Wiggins

[@Just__Denis]

Tell me if this trade makes sense to you. Miami Heat get Ben Simmons expiring and a 2027 1st rd pick from Brooklyn, Tre Jones expiring from the spurs and the 2025 hawks 1st rd pick, We send Jimmy, Love and J Richardson to the Spurs and the nets acquire Harrison Barnes and Keldon Johnson. I say we then tank for a top 5 pick and hope the Hawks not make the playoffs and we get another lottery pick. Then either target someone from the 2025 free agency class (Kyrie) or hold on til the 2026 free agency class (Fox)

[@louisitoprado9155]

Heat is not a culture guy. He wants money. He deserve it but show it in the court.

[@MrblacknPurpleDFW]

We should have traded Jimmy this offseason and this could have been avoided. We could have got a great package from Brooklyn or Houston. I WISHED WE GOT KAT FOR JIMMY AND DUNCAN.

[@RobertWatkins-xu9xw]

There's about four games he played and he tried to make them lose

[@bennygoodnight]

“Superstars” don’t complain about their role. They demand the ball and take over. Jimmy has not been a superstar for 2 years. Good riddance.

[@RobertWatkins-xu9xw]

Jimmy Butler is jealous of Christopher and Johnson he know they're coming up 2 years from now Miami heat will be back up there with those young guys

[@JoycelynSimmonds]

Honestly...i think jimmy feeling some type of way that tyler herro getting more attention then him.. he see he's not the number one scoring option no more. Speaking on pat this is a grown mans game.he deal with alot of egos .even thou stars left mad at pat they still respected him. He just don't back down too nobody, & he's not with pampering a star because they get mad

[@Halfull47]

Heat Culture is not about one player! Jimmy mad at Pat, He constantly yelling at his team, mainly a calm weaker Duncan, He doesn't want to mentor the younger players, He takes every off season to do all kind of shit n not rest or offseason training with any of his team, Then expects to load manage while we loose games and fall in the standings, Dude is 35 yrs old making 50 mil and he has lost his joy, Please that's a PUNK move bruh .......We the Heat team & Fans want to see us get our Joy back too!!!!

[@juliogonzalez4764]

Earlier this year Jimmy said that he has plenty of money and now it's all about respect equals money. He needs to go. The guys is beyond greedy. He's wash and can't perform consistently for the past 2 years and 32 games. I'm glad he overplayed his hand and is on his way out. If I were the Heat I wouldn't play him another game. Even if it means he sits on the end of the bench.

[@Kingofleos822]

My homie Ant 🚨 BREAKING NEWS 🚨 🗞️ Jimmy Butler suspended 7 games

[@WhoPaysTheTariffs]

I QUIT THIS TEAM! Sell the damn franchise.

[@rushainegordon]

Yall remember when Tyler got to the heat he dropped historic numbers and record breaking numbers right so the Duncan Robinson and Bam so how didn’t he have help yall a focusing tooo much on Jimmy and are not paying attention to guys that were actually doing good it wasn’t jus Jimmy guys and shiii like this is wat demoralizes teams yall make it seem we not shiii without jimmy well i think it’s reverse Tyler had number with Larry bird and LeBron and was on a short list of rookies to avg over 20 pts a game Bam was Dominant and Duncan was basically a cheap steph curry he had all the help not because he didn’t have a big name like Durant and Kyrie means that he didn’t have help we even had a career best performance where it was confusing who deserved MVP Caleb or Jimmy that’s right 2 mvps on one team and we didn’t win he had all the help he needed he states he can turn any team into a winning team he had monster pieces around him he’s and couldn’t get it done simple he wants to strong arm the team and pat won’t allow that

[@Jhokher-bd6jy]

Just trade Jimmy Butler let him walk and go whatever he wants him to go,,, i'm so tired of this saga! 🔥🔥🔥

[@Mr.Alkebulan]

Pat Riley is dog shit since that 2013 off-season the Spurs were catching up to us and made minimal tweaks . Complacency is their forte now it’s sad . Bad cap management and the fixation on one way players is disgusting you had a whale and folded .

[@ProReid03]

Shaq took less money and won, Lebron took less money and won. DWade never been the highest paid player and won all under Pat.they all let Pat build a team around them. Jimmy took max contract after max contract. you can’t expect to signed a max contract and surround you with another 2 max contracts to play along side of you.

[@jimmyjay689]

Dame.....

[@zanckpods9078]

They suspended him and now they gonna trade him and I’m sorry about your dad

[@Link_aura]

I also understand that this is a business but something about this rubbing me the wrong way (PAUSE)

[@knowledgeseeker1528]

Time to blow it up. Keep Herro, Ware. Trade everyone else, including Spo. Riley retire. Mickey sell the team

[@mauriciomedina2679]

Stop it....just stop it

[@knowledgeseeker1528]

@mauriciomedina2679 They're cooked. Its over.

[@mauriciomedina2679]

@knowledgeseeker1528 they've won games before without him? Not saying they're nba finals bound but a 6th seed is not crazy to think!

[@knowledgeseeker1528]

@@mauriciomedina2679 A team lead by Herro and Bam is not winning a playoff series.

[@mauriciomedina2679]

@@knowledgeseeker1528 bam herro and coached by spo can definitely win a playoff series

[@Link_aura]

So if jimmy did not come where would we be jimmy was the best thing sense lebron and after this no one is gonna want to come here you dont tell a mafn that proved himself to shut up

[@mskcnicole]

Pat needs to be fired! Pat is the reason for the Heat's struggles. The Heat have wasted Jimmy's best years.

[@WhoPaysTheTariffs]

I QUIT THIS TEAM! Sell the damn franchise.

[@RobertWatkins-xu9xw]

Jimmy Butler's jealous of Tyler hero

[@antlive3761]

Gotta trade him hes just not there anymore he wants out so trade him and try to get the best offered deal u can hes just becoming a distraction to the team I like Jimmy I effs wit my guy but his whole game and body language aint there he even said it in the post-game interview he wants out and it could never be the same playing for the heat again. Just trade him and move on its best for both sides rite now. Just my opinion

[@AntcmbHeat]

You are delusional if your really honestly thought that the Heat would resign Jimmy to the max a $60 plus million contract for 5 seasons, injury prone, when he does play he half asses it, and hasn’t shown any signs of that he can really stay healthy when it counts. Why would you want the Heat to be strapped into Jimmy Butler late 30’s early 40’s? For you to still complain ok why the Heat signed him to a big contract? You guys act like Jimmy Butler is Michael Jordan, or Kobe Bryant, he’s not even a healthy Kawhi Leonard!! Please stop it!!! Jimmy Butler is an all star player who turns into a star in the postseason! He’s nothing but a cancer to all the organizations he’s has played for yet you wanted to keep that and keep the mediocrity. It goes to show how y’all would not be good business owners/business men because you’ll make emotional decisions and damage the product!

[@rivy8487]

I Blame The Heat! What Jimmy did in the 2020 Finals alone, was truly amazing. I said after that season the Heat needed to get Jimmy Help. Here we are 4 years later with the same ooo. So I too would be upset. No help and no money!

[@rushainegordon]

Firstly how can u blame the front office when the office did wats best as I said before in order to get the type of players u wanted we’d have to Trade our whole team it didn’t work for Brooklyn u think it would’ve worked for us if Brooklyn didn’t win a chip with Kyrie Harden and Durant u think we would’ve won if we traded Bam and Tyler our main pieces bro think think jus F”””@ think man we had a good team a really good one that beat Bucks in their prime and Boston for years one player can’t do that it was all of the team Tyler goes off everytime against Boston and Milwaukee so does Caleb and don’t u remember the playoff both Jimmy and bam apologized to us

[@koranbestmusic88]

Once again, it's not Jimmy's fault. Teams backed out on trades that they had with Pat Riley, and Pat Riley was stuck with the roster he had. Nowadays, these kids shoot threes like layups, so players like Jimmy Butler are not the focus, rather their defense being more important. All we have to do, is trade for a real Center for Jimmy or for others, and we'll be okay. Keep Tyler, bam and Jimmy and K. Ware. If Jimmy wants to go, then we should get a good Center for him. We have all the guards and Shooters in the world. LOL

[@vardogarland1184]

Jimmy is not worth 60+ million dollars a year

[@josematos6579]

Sorry for your lost my friend. 🙏🏻