What's Bad About Julia | Jeff Bezanson | JuliaCon 2019

[@samuelokon8842]

I love the sincerity

[@kamilziemian995]

The funniest talk about Julia that I have ever saw. 😂

[@UGPepe]

"time to first plot" sounds awfully specific for a general-purpose programming language :)

[@Stopa42]

You're probably just joking, but in case you are serious: plot() from package Plots.jl is a very widely used function that is quite infamous for this compiler latency issue, hence the name. To put it another way, it is a general problem of julia with a meme name due to it being especially bad for the plot() function.

[@UGPepe]

Honza Stopka the joke's on programming languages that pertain on being general-purpose yet insist on only one way of compiling and running your programs be that AOT, JIT, interpreted, etc. I hope that in the future we'll have truly programmable compilers that put the user in control. Some languages that go in that direction are Terra and the upcoming Jai language.

[@VijayaGopala]

Not even a mention of the memory footprint: it takes 250Mb to calculate 1+1

[@kamilziemian995]

At least "compiled code is too big" is mentioned at 06:04.

[@brauliobrunaud53]

What's Awesome about Julia... So many things!

[@marc-andrebrun8942]

BUT it reproduces the legacy "bad choice" with &&, || , ! instead of "and" "or" "not"; it's awful, unreadable, have no respect for programmer who have to live in this dirty spell; I wonder why that? is it suppose to make people cleaver, speaking and awful gibberish?

[@marc-andrebrun8942]

@XiKLeR 30 years ago, I was Pascal programmer with a very nice syntax; then I learn and use some C and python, for fun; i don't like it so much; finally i discover scheme and racket; a real gem; the boolean "and" "or" "not" are now functions working on built-in list! i love it!

[@nexovec]

What's awesome about Julia is that its authors are critical thinkers

[@kamilziemian995]

I agree.

[@ingframin]

Select a symbol for xor that I can actually type for example?

[@UGPepe]

22:21 smells like CSS... will you add !important ?

[@joescan-madeforsawmills]

Anyone have a source for that crazy animation at 18:27 ?

[@edwardsmale3977]

It's one of the Grow Island flash games.

[@kamilziemian995]

@@edwardsmale3977 Thank you.

[@kamilziemian995]

I love this talk. It is so funny. 😃

[@AdamsTaiwan]

Does not seem to have good vsCode support.

[@kamilziemian995]

6:42 👏👏👏

[@HungNguyen-lz5xb]

19:28 it started as a joke, then some crazy (and crazy good too) dude actually do it...

[@JobvanderZwan]

Seriously? Got a link or a search term?

[@HungNguyen-lz5xb]

@@JobvanderZwan lol, no man. I'm just pointing out that we will never know if someone actually do that. Maybe you can be that one dude.

[@kamilziemian995]

@@HungNguyen-lz5xb Is this now work in progress? I'm ask seriously.

I choose Python because good modules, Pytorch and documents. Julia or any other language doesn't own it like Python. Is there any thing to collect all dependency to production? I think you should focus on research to production "BRIDGE". As i researcher i don't want to struggle types.

[@walkerjian]

ah! now I get Julia! (well a bit) Julia is like SQL for a the nuts and bolts of the language. What you need is query analyzre/optimiser... And think about the parts explosion problem, as dealt with by pigs ears... And as far as transitivity goes, ask Cohl Furey kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZfKaWCBn9uhpq8

[@kamilziemian995]

Julia is array based language, but I don't know if this mean that it is like SQL.