What’s going on with Red Bull’s Christian Horner controversy at F1 testing

[@benjisurf]

everyone yapping about inclusion during press conferences in the middle east is so embarrassing lol

[@maht0x]

it's embarassing anywhere by anyone

[@aboodhart1399]

the middle east is just as inclusive as anywhere else now a days get the western propaganda out ya head

[@Bigchuckers]

And 3 races in the U.S., what hypocrisy.

[@jeanpierreiratwibutse119]

😂😂a real theatre

[@jenidu9642]

Even THE RACE is hypocritcal often being sponsored by Aramco

[@charmingpeasant9834]

Formula 1 still preaching about equality while taking money from and racing in countries where it doesnt exist. Truly a role model.

[@stusue9733]

I wonder how it will go down when a female driver it put in F1?

[@Left4Coragem]

Anyone who believes any company cares about "equality" is naive as a child.

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

Female drivers have raced in f1 before

[@trappenweisseguy27]

How about the hypocrisy of using “turbo hybrids” in an effort to be “eco friendly” while the whole circus has to jet around the planet to an ever increasing number of races ?. All of those tires require a lot of fossil fuels to produce as well 🤷‍♂️.

[@alias19]

@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Such a useless comment. How will they treat a contemporary female driver?

[@Spike-sk7ql]

The only awkward thing about this whole thing is the so called journalists salivating around it.

[@jordanw24]

This ^ They WANT drama and scandal. It’s disgusting. Whether or not he’s guilty or innocent he DESERVES the due process and to be considered innocent until the FACTS come out.

[@zipzep]

common jos paid a lot to ignite it, show some respect to the MAN behind

[@gollese]

Yeah wtf is going on. What jordan said.

[@TheAmazingCowpig]

Honestly. I just keep forgetting about the whole thing. Just let the thing happen in the background until it finishes, geez.

[@joshaviles1131]

There are reports that he’s gonna announce his departure on the 28th. So I won’t be surprised if it does happen

[@kennetha6594]

It seems some people have given him a guilty verdict. The journalists should be ashamed of themselves for the treatment of Horner.

[@Milkydrummer]

@@thegotterdammerung😂😂😂 👌🏻

[@jacobitosuperstar]

How is he getting the guilty treatment while keeping his job. I am certainly curious

[@Payaso9]

🤡🤡🤡

[@inahole2678]

@@thegotterdammerungthe journalists worded their questions like they assumed he was guilty? Why would he step aside until the investigation is over?

[@ghjk193]

​@@inahole2678 you have no idea how journalism works do you either that or you didn't actually understand the questions that where asked . Neither of them painted him as guilty... And he would step aside to the simple fact that it's kinda difficult to ask people about their experience with their boss with said boss basically in the same room

[@spartanghost9865]

Not awkward at all, everyone needs to shut up & let it play out.

[@fragdude]

100% agree that it needs to be played out first. But it is kinda awkward to have this sort of thing hanging over a team principal

[@biggusy25]

@@fragdude So people can just drum up BS allegations and force a team principle (or anyone on a team) to take a leave of absence? Good on him for sticking it out.

[@chrisc475]

It's awkward as it's a distraction. Nobody wanted to be talking about this on Day 2 of preseason testing, hence F1 itself writing to RB and urging it along fairly.

[@swl0323]

Propgranda from The Race to make Red Bull look bad in Formula 1 world. If this happen to Toto or Hamilton, their script will be totally different

[@daarom3472]

​@@swl0323we all remember the Toto Susie saga from last year 😂

[@morzee94]

Red Bull are dealing with a sensitive HR issue in a professional way. The media need to show some respect to everyone involved and wait for the outcome of the investigation.

[@Michael-ll7tt]

Media showing respect? That will never happen 🤣

[@gabrieldias3479]

It's not only the media. It's the fans, the other teams, the sponsors, the FIA and F1 that are asking for more transparency and quick resolution. Considering many other accusations of harassment, I think the media has been doing a nice job of giving Horner some time. But we can't really ignore the subject.

[@zainmalik1872]

​@@gabrieldias3479not all media outlets have been fair. Some of the less professional and more ambitious ones have said some audacious things. You can see from the questions Horner has to maneuver around that people aren't being fair to him if it means a good scoop.

[@jebidiahcarlyon3543]

I think it would be more professional if Horner was to step aside until the investigation ends. The pointed questions and criticism only seem more appropriate with the CEO continuing "business as usual" despite his current situation. Red Bull don't seem like they could replace him if the allegations are true - which should worry any RB fan.

[@duncanidaho9153]

Redbull should get on with it.

[@evan55056]

There is 9 other teams at testing many with various different concepts on there car that you have not talked about. Maybe make a video about those instead of an ongoing investigation with definitive conclusion

[@jimkeane]

This is tabloid journalism, could you not make a “what we learned from day 2 of pre season testing video” that would be far more insightful

[@UncleSalie]

No the fuck it isn't? Go look at the statements made by Viaplay. That's tabloid journalism and Mitchell-Malm was first in line to report that they are wrong.

[@tl924]

Brits literally invented sensationalist tabloid journalism, they're just doing what they know.

[@AlizioHerman]

I bet you didn't give the Wolff's this same tolerance. This isn't about respect guy. If there is an investigation of this magnitude, its the media's obligation to investigate, that's what The Race is doing. Stop pretending the man should be completely immune from conversations surrounding this and stop pretending we all called him guilty. Slow down.

[@TimPaddy]

I can save everyone 11:24 of their life. Nothing has changed and there's no new information.

[@illbeV.]

They gotta get those sweet sweet clicks though 🤷‍♂️

[@martinvagnerpind6302]

Thank you @TimPaddy

[@Invin_cibles]

This is probably the worst video I've seen from The Race and they've been quite terrible lately. The clown also tried to imply whether Ferrari are faster than RB because Charles was 0.7s quicker on softer tyres IN TESTING!

[@TimPaddy]

@@Invin_cibles I agree with your entire assessment

[@illbeV.]

@@Invin_cibles eh? If anything The Race are always s***ting on Ferrari. No one's implying Ferrari are faster than RB, stop going off tangents

[@elemenop718]

Not awkward. Just you guys with your click bait BS

[@garythefishable]

It is kind of awkward.

[@elemenop718]

@@garythefishable you were there you fruitcake?

[@alias19]

@@garythefishable What is it about? You cannot say because YOU DO NOT KNOW. Stop being a mouthpiece for something you know nothing about.

[@garythefishable]

@@alias19 It's the elephant in the room my guy, not much you or I can do about that I'm afraid.

[@jebidiahcarlyon3543]

@@garythefishable The "elephant", to me, is the fact that RB seem to consider Horner irreplaceable. If the allegations are true or not, during the investigation it would make RB look better to have a stand in for Horner. That way if things go really bad, RB doesn't look completely screwed and bereft of leadership

[@alicekoppenol-pitti6257]

If the " evidence" were that strong he wouldn't be there. Calling it "awkward" is more for the media than for Horner himself.

[@boom2055]

well often times evidence is not needed to defame or blackmail people. Especially when a female accuses a male.

[@kylegerbrandt]

@@boom2055 ahh yes all those high profile stories you definitely didnt just pull out your ass

[@squelchedotter]

Conversely, if there was no evidence, they wouldn't be turning this into a PR nightmare for themselves

[@alicekoppenol-pitti6257]

@@squelchedotter never said there was no evidence and the PR nightmare was started when it was "leaked" to the Dutch Press. I said " the evidence was not that strong". Note the difference.

[@soundscape26]

@@boom2055 Conversely many women don't come forward for fear of not being believed and potential retaliation. Each case is a case.

[@susanhenderson2322]

Christian looked calm and relaxed to me, this seems to me that its just journalists trying to stir the sh1t as usual

[@sliqwille]

Allegations do not equal guilt.

[@FabledGentleman]

Well, Horner's lawyer recommended a 650.000 pound plea deal. That sounds pretty serious to me.

[@kenchen704]

Zak Brown and the journalists comments were mad disrespectful, Mclaren needs to tell Zak to shut his mouth.

[@pouification]

Why? Horner would be the first one to badmouth any other team if their principal would be in the same position as him.

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

​@@pouificationHorner would probably have the intelligence to not open himself up to a potential lawsuit

[@illbeV.]

Oh yeah, poor Horner, he's always so restrained 😂

[@Pkpedals]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sam-nariman6236]

Zak is so bitter about other teams' success.

[@True60RS]

Happy to come to the comments section and see other F1 fans share my same sentiments. Today’s video effort would have been much better spent on a Testing Day 2 round-up.

[@andyrules999]

I hope 'The Race' read some of these comments and get the point

[@AlizioHerman]

You think an F1 media outlet shouldn't report on topics of this magnitude because it makes you uncomfortable. The most political and legally involved sport on earth and you think we should ignore this because you're sick of cancel culture. Talking about F1 has never been just about the racing. If this was any other scenario, like The Wolff's you'd be quiet. @andyrules999

[@andyrules999]

@@AlizioHerman Would you like it if someone falsely accused you of sexual harassment and your name is smeared across the front pages? Lets just be fair and wait for the actual details insted of this nonsense. Doesn't matter if it is Wolff or Horner, maybe if it was Guenther I'd be desperate for details, maybe he fu**ed the whole team after all

[@LongbowAdam]

@@AlizioHermanyou are 100% right. This should be the leading story until resolved. I’m frankly surprised and disappointment this isn’t discuss and talked about more.

[@andyrules999]

@@LongbowAdam will you be apologising to redbull and horner and paying back all the losses they have sustained thanks to these lies????

[@matthewbarber13]

Not a Horner fan by any stretch of the imagination but it’s just idiotic to expect anyone connected with the situation to provide any update on it, whilst the investigation is ongoing no one will be at liberty to speak of it for fear of something becoming prejudicial to the outcome. Maybe Horner & Red Bull should have taken a different approach to Horner being front and centre knowing full well that these questions as dumb as they are were coming.

[@rogerblackwood8815]

Maybe due process needs an update where BOTH PARTIES remain anonymous until the case is proven. This one really gets my piss boiling! What's the other parties name? Where do they work? Are they causing a distraction in their line of work etc etc? No, a big fat NO, because no one knows who this person is, but the man is always hung out to dry before any evidence whatsoever has been heard in public!

[@matthewbarber13]

@@rogerblackwood8815with all due respect the other party isn’t a public figure like Horner, their name coming out gets them in an even worse situation than Horner, the abuse that person would be opened up to just by reading comments on places like this would be horrific. I think that this other person is being used as a pawn given the tensions growing between Horner and other people who want him gone. I do agree that this just shouldn’t be played out in the media until it’s been resolved.

[@GloomGaiGar]

@@rogerblackwood8815 So you're just hungry for GOSSIP lol. The truth will reveal itself in due time. Just shut up and enjoy the season. It very obviously does not concern you.

[@kylegerbrandt]

@@rogerblackwood8815 always, okay. post links to prove it.

[@simonb4757]

​@@rogerblackwood8815it is regrettable that Horner's name got out but that is always a risk with such a high profile figure and it was always a risk. It's one that comes with the job and Horner has to take the rough with the smooth, he's made plenty of money from his role and his public image, you can't take those benefits without the risks that if something like this happens it won't get picked up by the press somehow. But just because Horner's name leaked does not mean the other person's name should be given out at all, that's ridiculous to suggest for all the reasons already mentioned by people.

[@barrymitchell1488]

Why I didn't surprise that ones who talk is Zack Brown?

[@gilangrizkiaulya8664]

??? Im no fan of him but he was asked? Did you expect him to say "no comment"?

[@esavage8855]

He was asked in this case but the media asked him on purpose because Zak loves to talk shit. The media is trying to stir up as much controversy as possible because that’s what gives them clicks. This is a reason I can’t stand reporters of any kind!

[@barrymitchell1488]

@esavage8855 so it's media fault that Zack is talking shit about Red Bull every time he could do this?

[@barrymitchell1488]

@@gilangrizkiaulya8664 so basically you saying that it's not his fault?

[@esavage8855]

@@barrymitchell1488 that’s not what I said at all. What I’m saying is they called on him because they knew he specifically would give them a juicy quote to use in their articles. Honestly he probably would’ve done it even if they didn’t call on him but they wanted to make sure

[@JusticeSheperd]

Not awkward for me, I think it's just media outlets like you that seek to make it this way 🤷‍♂

[@jordanw24]

Toto and Brown’s comments are totally inappropriate virtue signally. PITIFUL.

[@Hypersonik]

I think they're great! They will try and hire for diversity and go backwards down the grid whilst everyone else hires on ability :)

[@maxx6282]

Do you know what virtue signaling is

[@IAmKry]

I'm so sick of seeing these headlines. You guys are better than this bogus "journalism."

[@F1jones]

Please document your prodigious expertise regarding journalistic standards, methods and ethics.

[@IAmKry]

@@F1jonesAh, yes, the good old "you can't have an opinion if it isn't your profession." Buzz off with that, mate. You're a target demographic, act like it.

[@maxx6282]

​@@IAmKryyou think they shouldn't be talking about it because they're not in the investigation. The hypocrisy is shocking

[@IAmKry]

@@maxx6282 No, I think you shouldn't report on things that are unsubstantiated and still ongoing. It will be as embarrassing for all involved as the reports that prematurely spewed out on Toto and his wife. Reporting without evidence is simply hearsay.

[@markroman8227]

Why do people keep saying "investigation" but never elaborate what exactly is being investigated?

[@rocket69218]

Nobody knows, other than some kind of 'inappropriate behavior' accusation.

[@sprinkleofthyme]

Somewhere it said something about chat messages of a sexual naturw

[@aimankamil4818]

​@@sprinkleofthymesome women getting yelled at because she doesn't do her job, the investigation is taking longer because RB new ceo doesn't particularly interested in f1

[@sloppynyuszi]

@@sprinkleofthymethat’s just some gossip. The more serious players say it’s more of work bullying incident. Think Ellen DeGeneres more than Harvey Weinstein. The complainant I think is a woman, why people are running with the sex stuff.

[@charlesdarwin7253]

Because it's all bullshit. It's internal politics that nobody outside Liberty Media or the FIA cares about. It's honestly infuriating how journalists are constructing a story with zero content.

[@biggallcaps]

The current state of the world with cancel culture, specifically against men with accusations from women, is really dangerous and has an overall negative effect on everyone involved. As soon as an accusation is made, regardless if it is true or not, causes all kinds of doubt about the company they work for, the people closest to the accused party, and anyone associated with the accused party all gets thrown into turmoil. And if the accusation is false, there is no meaningful repercussions applied to the accusing party and the accused's reputation is irreversably damaged with no compensation. I'm not saying if this stuff is going on that it shouldnt be stopped, but the media, the governing body, and anyone with guns and pitch forks need to canceled for the irreversible damage they cause to everyone else as a result of these things happening. You shouldn't burn a house down to kill a spider. You just hit it with a fly-swatter.

[@BallinCock]

Based

[@Spike-sk7ql]

This comment should have more likes. Bad mouth the media in the first part to keep everyone reading the rest, which is what they should be reading.

[@optimusprime028]

Men are lowkey also the ones who made those rules. 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂🤷‍♂🤷‍♂

[@mpow3r972]

I agree with all the above. So many women in this "Me Too" world are trying to cash in on anything they can regarding men above them. This man has children, a wife, and so on, and it seems like it's more someone he rejected than anything else. People are always looking for the next paycheck when they aren't capable of earning it themselves. And this comes from a Mercedes fan btw........

[@Sahil.Thomas]

Agree

[@Brucefulness]

If they had any clear cut evidence at all he'd already have resigned or been fired. So obviously they don't. The way the racing "journalists" are handling it is pathetic

[@simonb4757]

Your lack of understanding of appropriate HR process is understandable, most people aren't HR Professionals, but don't go shouting about stuff you don't understand. You are perpetuating a false narrative just as much if not more so than the media. The investigation will deem the outcome and your baseless claims of lack of evidence are as unhelpful as the media's rumours. The only odd thing is that he isn't suspended pending the investigation, that would be normal HR practice in these circumstances and it is concerning.

[@soundscape26]

Now think the opposite... if he were 100% innocent the case would've been closed by now.

[@idislikemyhandle]

@@soundscape26 The issue is, in those kid of accusation he essentially should prove he is innocent, which is quite a trick. I personally have zero ideas how i can prove i didn't do shit if other side don't need to prove i did.

[@soundscape26]

@@idislikemyhandle In this particular situation? Well, calls and messages leave trails, I don't think the case involves anything physical otherwise the police would probably be on the scene already. We have to put some faith in the investigation.

[@maxx6282]

Learn what an investigation is

[@GarryOffroad]

I expected more from The Race

[@4rdF1Hunny]

Media doing its best to create tension and drama.

[@adamjoy429]

The irony of Toto sitting in the middle east and talking about equality, transparency and the grid being role models...

[@ua697]

Petronas = Putin

[@subbiasrinivasan]

Oh yes instead he should be in the US which will never step on women's rights or would ever commit a genocide .. Oh wait !!

[@soundscape26]

Well, probably the right place to talk about that.

[@F1jones]

The irony of this story being about Chris Horner and the RBR bandwagon trying to redirect and project it into something about Wolff, still living rent free in their heads.

[@patepulkkinenvtec2403]

​@@soundscape26If Toto is truly the soldier of justice, maybe he should boycott all the races in the middle-east? Yep, not gonna happen.

[@tailsneon556]

I hope if all this ends up being false allegations he sues the crap out of everyone who is dragging him through htis

[@43Disciple]

The press has falsely weighed in on this so much they should all expect lawsuits from Horner. De Telegraf and ViaPlay both need to feel the burn for false reporting.

[@olivialambert4124]

There's nothing to sue. In this instance they'd need to prove that the media both knew the statements were false and then said the false statements with the intent to hurt his reputation. That's an incredibly high standard, and asking questions whilst reporting on part of the story doesn't even count as a statement let alone both of those requirements. Yes it feels unfair, yes we both know what they're doing, but legally they've done nothing wrong. Morally on the other hand, well we're all free to vote with our feet and avoid this media platform. People seem to be quite vocal about their stance on this and if they ignore the viewers the next step would be avoiding their content and allowing them to fade into obscurity as we are seeing happen for similar reasons to many other media outlets.

[@PncK64]

@@olivialambert4124 What you've said is not even remotely true. Intent in libel or slander cases is not relevant. It's either libelous or it isn't, simple as

[@olivialambert4124]

@@PncK64 I suggest you work a little harder on your legal knowledge then. There are two different standards depending on if a person is a public figure or not a public figure. Horner is obviously a public figure. In cases revolving around public figures there is a far stricter requirement which indeed does involve intent. You're clearly stuck on only the more lax standard towards people who aren't public figures where indeed intent does not matter.

[@alotl1kevegas860]

Toto calling for "transparency" while the scandal involving him and his wife got swept under the rug is laughable.

[@barrymitchell1488]

And somehow, Toto thinks he is a victim after that.

[@rickfewtrell8843]

What scandal? His wife working at the FIA in a capacity that has nothing to do with F1?

[@adalsegu9670]

it wasnt swept under, it was literally front and center that week. the issue was resolved and so you stopped hearing about it.

[@northman77]

It's Toto 🤷

[@tenej6992]

It wasn't. There clearly was no foul play, also why didn't the issue come up when she got elected to be in that position?

[@LookSpec]

someone should tell Zak Brown that having a loud mouth doesn't make up for his teams lack of wins

[@therealquaid1694]

Remember Fat Brown is an American so he knows no better.

[@sam-nariman6236]

My thought exactly mate 😂😂 He's so confident that he will not face such accusations as a CEO. You should be careful because your words would be used against you in the future.

[@F1jones]

@@sam-nariman6236 most CEOs aren't accused of such behavior. Maybe because most don't give reason of such. Horner has admitted to liking to play psychological games before, seems right in line with his bafoonery. When his wife has to cry that he did nothing wrong, we can easily infer that something did happen, it's just a matter of "right or wrong." Meanwhile, I love all the snowflakes crying for this guy. Team bosses lose their jobs all the time, he'd just be the latest. So what.

[@GustOfWind-go]

You can’t imply the investigation isn’t serious because he hasn’t been put on leave. There’s an underlying assumption there that he did something wrong. The whole point of an investigation is to prove guilt. Y’all are some silly reporters

[@SilverWolfXIII]

Toto and his wife's situation seems to be a more clear cut obvious conflict of interest while we haven't seen any evidence for Horner's so he needs to stop barking. As for Brown he brings shame to the McLaren name by being the attention seeking shoulder parrot for Mercedes rather than the respectable owner of one of the most legendary teams in F1. Bad taste from the media on sweeping some cases under the rug and highlighting others. The Andretti case is still fresh as well

[@maxx6282]

RB owns two teams talking about "clear cut" conflict of interest

[@julianz7450]

Innocent until proven guilty. Let red bull do its investigation and don't stir the pot for no reason.

[@roberthak3695]

also notice how its a company internal investigation, not a legal LAW investigation. meaning this is some sort of modern feminist accusation. I personally dont care and dont want him to go because of this sort of propagandistic accusations

[@ivnflo-Carfax]

7:50 Why does the RB keep getting hammered by the media when HAAS has been doing a parts bin special from the start?

[@lamatakbertemu8197]

Maybe they fear RB 19.

[@Switll72]

Because other teams cant do a proper job they have to find some excuse !!!

[@mvh996]

because Rb cud get much better than haas....

[@barrymitchell1488]

Me:Can't wait for videos about testing. Race: Give us a video about politics Me:🤔

[@steveo_80]

Politics where?

[@barrymitchell1488]

@@steveo_80 🤔

[@B__L]

Testing teaches us almost nothing. This is a huge story within the paddock.

[@steveo_80]

@Uranswer-yu5kp Better answer than I thought I was going to get. ty good sir.

[@starbase218]

OMG. Anyone can make an accusation at any time. If someone needs to step aside for that, that seems like a very convenient way to be able to hurt them, under the guise of political correctness. Seems like Zak Brown is more concerned with image, than with truth.

[@garythefishable]

Honestly I like Horner, he's good at giving us entertainment off the track and genuinely comes across as a sound guy. I really hope he didn't do the dodgy stuff though especially for his families sake.

[@Pidea14]

What did he do?

[@garythefishable]

@@Pidea14 The rumour is s*xual harassment of a female colleague within the Red Bull F1 team but nothing is official so take it with a pinch of salt for now.

[@slopat2503]

No surprise that Zach and Toto are the only ones to offer a comment. Really starting to dislike those two.

[@janabozic2603]

The "elephant" in the room wouldn't be there if journalists had respect for the process at hand. Regardless of what you think about Christian he is still a person who deserves a chance to defend himself against these claims, these kind of videos, articles and reports make it impossible for him to do that. Asking him questions when you know he legally can't answer, picking words to rile him up and goad him into saying something just so you can get a scoop for your article is deplorable. Not to mention involving other team principals to create more stories, adding to the speculation by talking about his tone and body language, that's what's creating a tense situation not Christian trying to do his job and be there for the team he has devoted 20 years to.

[@kylegerbrandt]

just say you dont understand what journalism actually is

[@janabozic2603]

@@kylegerbrandt I know exactly what it is, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of journalists criticizing Christian for "creating an awkward situation", without any accountability for the role they play in it.

[@maxx6282]

​@@janabozic2603journos are not their friends. Not every day does someone get investigated for harrassment

[@janabozic2603]

@@maxx6282 you completely missed my point🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Kbandz313]

The media keep saying he’s under “Investigation” but never actually say what he’s really getting investigated for. We don’t even know what he did if anything at all

[@gabrieldias3479]

That shows how the media has been pretty respectful to Horner. Otherwise we would be seeing a lot of rumors floating around, we would see heated debates and so on.

[@kylegerbrandt]

thats how it works. Also not true we know that it's management and harassment related

[@soundscape26]

Because Red Bull didn't disclose any further information.

[@mh518]

Take the video down

[@illbeV.]

Alright Dutchie, calm down

[@Real_Shawn]

​@@illbeV.Go away

[@AlizioHerman]

Why take it down. It's hilarious how conservative white dudes always want media suppressed that makes them uncomfortable. The Race did nothing but report on a potentially historical off-track conflict. No one called him guilty and the situation is objectively awkward, even if he's innocent. You're not a fan of cancel culture, we get it. We weren't on the ground in Bahrain, we deserve updates.

[@DannySB991]

Yes we get it, it feels like you mention this or find a way to add into the thumbnail of every single video at the moment. Give it a rest and focus on the cars, that's what we want to see as formula 1 fans. If Horner is found guilty, then good riddance.

[@mrzachwright]

I like Zak Brown, but where does he have any room to comment on the situation? Toto calling for transparency when every scandal he’s been part of has been swept under the rug is also laughable.

[@Gizfreek]

What's really awkward is that despite RB trying to handle it in a professional way, some media outlets can't wait to milk this situation without any verdict or information. Wait until the matter is resolved and then you can talk about what happened and not only speculate.

[@awdgsx415]

The only awkwardness is making a whole video about it, and the media making it more than what it is. Honestly could care less. Why not make more videos on other cars testing on the grid.

[@greenman717]

The corporate PR in F1 is unbearably cringe now. I'm just watching it out of masochism

[@TurboPumperX]

DEI this DEI that🤮

[@Sahil.Thomas]

​@@TurboPumperXhonestly man , fuck this shit 🤢

[@ianaquila1858]

Journos making more out of nothing. They don’t even know the details but scream GUILTY. Reporters are a joke these days.

[@AyyFuji]

Only thing awkward about it is the media drumming it up as such. There’s been no verdict so far, and the investigation is ongoing. Until there’s a definitive decision, he’s allowed to still continue his job. People are way too soft, I’m sure if he is found guilty, RB will do the right thing and punish him, if it’s found to be worthy of dismissal and all that. In no way am I excusing his potential actions, but until it’s been proven, the company can do what they want (like others that decide to remove someone if any bad news gets out, these companies can go about it however they want

[@andyrules999]

I wonder if 'The Race' read these comments? Well done to everyone below for taking the correct stance unlike the hypocrits in the media

[@growsustainflourish8911]

The idea that anyone should have to step aside from their job at the whiff of an accusation is simply ridiculous. It’s only a story because the media keep talking about it. As a viewer of this channel and F1 these videos are a waste of time until some official actual news comes out.

[@qbond007]

Horner haters are being incredibly unfair. So all that has to happen to destroy a man’s career is a woman making an accusation against you. This is absolutely disgusting! Toto and Brown are hypocrites and extremely pathetic. Any persons accused of inappropriate behaviour is innocent until proven guilty. Why should Horner step aside? Red Bull must conclude this investigation asap. It’s a bad situation to prolong this unnecessarily.

[@roberthak3695]

yes its all it takes. where have you been in the last 20 years mate? ... I never liked Horner, too cocky, but I stand with him on this

[@stusue9733]

@@roberthak3695 "where have you been in the last 20 years mate?" I'm not sure you meant that this way but yes, men need accurate records of where they were for the last 30 years in case they need to prove they weren't where someone said they were.

[@chrisc475]

The acusation has got to be investigated, of course it does and that's what they're doing. If there's nothing in it, it'll conclude and be back at his Jon.

[@stusue9733]

@@chrisc475 So you are happy with guilty until proven innocent?

[@chrisc475]

@@stusue9733 Of course not, but they're not treating him like he's guilty. He wouldn't be there for one.

[@Haviickx]

Crazy that in the midst of testing, this is what a video is about?

[@edusszfx]

Asking the person being investigated how long the investigation is going to take, is just so dumb!

[@Jack-fd8cx]

Massive loss of respect to the Race for the tone of this video. Gross.

[@peterusher8384]

Says a lot about Zac Brown and Journalists all talking bollocks

[@glennbranton623]

It’s “business as usual” because justice operates on the principle that you are innocent until PROVEN guilty, a principle we as a society seem to be losing sight of.

[@bfoote9909]

This is media Yapping. You should be making videos on the test itself. Wait until the investigation is done and ask questions in which you would actually get a substantive answer. this whole video amounts to " Christian horner was jabbed by some journalists, and told them he couldn't comment on the investigation"

[@qbond007]

Having women at a certain level must require CCTV to record all interactions between women and men. If accusations are the only evidence required for women to taint or destroy men’s careers. Please record EVERYTHING! No private conversations must be permitted between men and women.

[@nessuno5403]

But apparently there's inappropriate messages from Horner to the alleged victim

[@zippo5294]

I agree

[@AKA87BE]

@@nessuno5403 just rumours

[@Sahil.Thomas]

​@@nessuno5403just rumours without any proofs

[@Switll72]

@@nessuno5403the key word is "Apparently" ..... just like Horner "Apparently" had controlling behavior ..... If there was a text he would have been fired by now !!!!!

[@ilichio]

The only problem is that this has become public. There's no C level or director at any company that would be left on the side during an investigation. F1 "journalism" is just ridiculous.

[@christurner68]

the only people that are making this awkward is the media vultures

[@timoooo7320]

Of course he can't comment on it, he is the highest figure in Red Bull F1 racing team and he is there in these press in that capacity, what do you expect him to say "yeah so we've investigated me and we didn't find anything wrong"? Obviously not, he is being investigated by the parent company Red Bull, as it should be, so obviously any questions about the investigation need to be directed to the parent company.

[@CrimsonHiroX07]

Calling it now: Internal Red Bull power grab.

[@tiegedolly]

It’s giving me Little Carmine vs Johnny Sack vibes!

[@withextrapickles]

Wish you had some information but you used a title clicky and had nothing to add. Didnt expect this from the Race

[@Shifty_Malone]

It's awkward because it's being reported on. Innocent until proven guilty. We don't need another Trevor Bauer situation. We shouldn't hear a word, make any assumptions or have any disciplinary action until it's finalised.

[@dopy8418]

Racing fans don’t care about tabloid gossip.

[@ElGuatequero]

I dont like Horner in any way but if you have to stop everything you do every time somebody said something about you to finalizing to be false you couldnt have a life. He should retire and stop appearing if the investigations show that those accusations are true.

[@HBLight8891]

Why not let the investigation play out and talk about the testing? Stick to racing and non of this clickbait nonsense. Every team has spent hundreds of millions on their cars and popular news outlets want to talk about tabloid topics. Talk innovation please, your channel is much better when you do that. Dont be skysports 2.0

[@dantheracer16]

If Christian Horner is able to be at Formula 1 testing and the launch of the RB20 then it should tell you all you need to know about the investigation and where it's headed. I'm reasonably sure the person who the made the allegation is going to be a given a more than fair settlement to make it all go away so that Horner can carry on like nothing has happened? Does that make it right? Hell no. But is that how the corporate world works, you bet it is.

[@quigglyz]

Imagine taking fake allegations seriously 😂

[@soundscape26]

How do you know they are fake?

[@brianzoowab]

Honestly, it’s always been awkward when it comes to Horner and his behavior over all these years. Nothing new from this character.

[@mubbasherniaz8082]

Get Scott Mitchell a clip on microphone and balance the audio between the two clips. Some tiktokers have better audio balance lol

[@Banyo__]

For all the people going, but why should he step aside during the investigation...well.... A) you don't know what the allegations are---stepping aside is NOT being fired without cause, it is stop gap measure between investigation and the eventual truth B) this is literally common practice in business because this person may be causing harm to the company/brand/employees who work under them and to not have them step aside if actually proved guilty may lead to feelings of mistrust amongst employees in how seriously any potential future claims would be taken if that person is just allowed to continue on as if nothing is happening. Horner saying "business as usual" will definitely be the line the media run with IF anything does come out of this. C)Most companies have THICK AF packets of ethical morality clause paperwork that one must sign in blood-- again, extremely common. These can even extend to activities you do/don't do outside of work as you are a representative of that company-- it basically is designed to save a companies a-- should you do any wrong doing according to said documents and make it super easy for them to fire you. Remember a certain junior driver who dropped a certain word in a livestream---how quickly was he disappeared.

[@olivialambert4124]

Why are journalists so upset over the idea of innocent until proven guilty? Yes there has been an accusation, should every single person be punished and the team dragged down over every accusation? If he's innocent and being removed as principle then what? The team is at a great loss, a new principle has to replace him. Is it fair on him, the team, the fans? If he is guilty he will be punished when that is proven, what's the problem? Also, for what it's worth this doesn't meet that standard either.

[@cesarlopez4907]

Why is everyone condemning the person when Horner is innocent until proven guilty! So stop asking why he hasn’t been taken out of redbull team.

[@F1Alex90]

Which piece of music is being played at around 5:18 to 5:20?

[@thatsjustprime8096]

Innocent till proved guilty. And I don't like the man. Shame on you, the race

[@levegohang]

This episode sponsored by Mercedes and McLaren. How to be anti Redbull ... The Race. Hold my "jurnalism" :)))

[@AugmentedGravity]

What a joke this all is. People treating Horner as if he's already been sentenced, not giving him the benefit of the doubt as he should be given. Then people like Toto and other senior figures in the F1 paddock preaching about equality and inclusion while racing in _problematic_ ccountries and continues to put money before absolutely anything else. Ehm ehm *Andretti* What a show.

[@pratyushthakar6749]

He might have done something wrong, but until he has be proven guilty, he shall not be treated like a monster. You can't just fire (or even ask him to leave) the team he built from the ground up, on some supposed "ALLIGATIONS", at least not until he has been proven guilty. If he would not have been the team boss from the start, Red bull would never have reached the heights it has.

[@TravisHi_YT]

This is disgusting, for all we know this is a competitor trying to sabotage RBR and Horner. Why don't you wait for, you know, actual evidence, before speculating. We're in very disturbing times when a mere accusation is enough to end a career, and others pounce on it for views.

[@Wedgeman_Riley]

If Christian Horner goes, I think Adrian newey is next. He did say the reason he went to redbull was becuase he likes how Christian ran the team. If he doesn't retire I hope for a return to mclaren

[@garythefishable]

Yeah but what about the Red Bull hyper car project? That would be hard for Newey to walk away from.

[@foryousten]

Some dreams that he goes to Ferrari, to work with Lewis, 🦊

[@Switll72]

Newey is basically family of Horner, his the godfather of his children

[@wonjoomin]

Unsubscribed ty

[@SilverScarletSpider]

why does this video even exist? there is a 45% dislike ratio on this video for a good reason: your viewers know it’s nonsense

[@prutz9092002]

Oh man. Netflix is gonna be all over this like chum in the water.

[@SillyMonkeysLikeApples]

I get it either sexual abuse or any similar/related crimes are serious, but he is on a legal process, he is still not guilty, we cannot judge someone just because he has been accused of a crime, we all should have the right to remain innocent until proven guilty... I have no idea of the case or if he knows he is guilty, and I dont even like the team or him personally, but judging him as a criminal when it has not been proven I think it is something not acceptable nor logic

[@AugmentedGravity]

For those who can't see the dislike ratio, this video has 4,2k likes and a whopping 3,2k dislikes. Thats the highest ratio i've seen in a while.

[@pauldaulby1062]

Red Bull is investigating Red Bull. That will be totally non transparent, and as clear as mud. But we all know the outcome. Fixed springs to mine.

[@doctorknow]

I am ashamed of what F1 has become. Social media has destroyed all sportmanship and honor. Toto and Lewis won for 8 years but now RB is too much? Has to be taken down? Diagraceful

[@shu6037]

rb is winning only thanks to social media. also it is rb who destroyed sportmanship in f1.

[@unioncreativeREmedia]

Innocent until proven guilty, or guilty until proven innocent. You media folk seem to already have picked your side.

[@jahvheadgawn]

Let that man work! If he is guilty in the end then he should step down

[@roberthak3695]

also notice how its a company internal investigation, not a legal LAW investigation. meaning, this is some sort of modern feminist accusation that otherwise would have held NO weight under a penal or civil tribunal. I personally dont care and dont want him to go because of this sort of propagandistic accusations

[@andyprice4696]

We’ve all heard about this investigation but… what’s it all about? What’s he actually accused of doing? What is the reason for the investigation? Has that been made public? I’ve not seen that stated anywhere

[@shauryasingh1308]

The accusation is made by a female employee in the company that’s for sure from trusted media sources. Some media hubs are saying it’s because of Horners aggressive management whereas some journals are saying it’s a Sexual Harassment allegation. We will only know what’s the real deal after RB completes its investigation as they are taking it seriously. We can’t villainise him until we know the truth and let him do his job

[@LucasKingster]

Kinda bored of the witch-hunt tbh. Let’s focus on the cars please

[@santono2310]

In short, its not that awkward. There was a singular complaint about how Horner would adress this person/a group of people in the team. Due to the competitiveness of F1 and the aim of trying to win the championship it is understandable that emotions and regulations play a huge role in achieving said goal. The real awkwardness comes from all the media attention, who blow up the entire issue so much more than it has to be. There is an investigation ongoing and with all due respect, there is a real chance that Horner is deemed innocent. The man has received so much backlash about a thus far unproven situation, that I believe he should be receiving some sort of monetary compensation for the destruction of his image due to a possibly false claim.

[@bobcharlotte8724]

Thanks to RPM, I can't stop thinking of "investigayshon" lol

[@MrPwncake]

Cucumber

[@Sederiq]

If any accusation against any team's principal would cause automatic suspension from his role, tomorrow every team principal will have to deal with some kind of accusation, sourced by competitors, so that he is forced to step away for some time, thus damaging team's performance. Neither of the Wolfs stepped down, not called for investigation, when they had to deal with their own scandal, so...

[@TerribleFire]

I'm no CH fan but i think the investigation needs to take as long as it takes to get right answer. The era when we just believe any allegation against a man just because he's a man is over.

[@mrw1783]

What isnt heloing is there is no deadline or timescale available. I realise theyre not going to talk about everything but an epected completion date completion isnt too much to ask for.

[@vandalsgarage]

Zak Brown weighing in on an internal Red Bull matter is absolutely inappropriate and unnecessary. Brown is jealous of Christians success.

[@eliasmora715]

the media invents the drama.... talk about the racing not personal matters