What's inside a BROADMOOR SIREN damper/shutter control box?

[@michaelturner4457]

A giant solenoid, a strong spring, and a lot of grease.

[@xuanbui6946]

it’s a horizontal 3T22 with no cones, solenoids work different, and different voltage

[@Godzilla20191]

Thunderbolt 1003 and 3t22:

[@polandball7482]

It is

[@Waberner]

Anyone noticed the van says Transhit instead of Transit @ 5:35 ?

[@childishtombino1275]

That's amazing i want one

[@qeelevators2960]

Hahaha

[@LukiRudaka]

Waberner LMFAO

[@mrmattandmrchay]

I have only JUST noticed that lol!!!

[@qeelevators2960]

mrmattandmrchay - loooool

[@Egress.]

you should consider saving one of those sirens. it would be an amazing part of history.

[@seanjuth]

It doesn't matter how much money you try and throw at the guys removing the siren, Even if you offer more money than it's worth than scrap value they'll still take it to the scrapper

[@Egress.]

@@seanjuth the sad truth

[@olivere5497]

They are probably Crown Property or HM Gov or something similar, its posible they will be cataloged and left in a warehouse somewhere until they are auctioned off, maybe a bulk sale of scrap.

[@stephencleaves]

Built to last back in those days, love the giant solenoid !

[@HelloKittyFanMan.]

The ones built now are too.

[@cebruthius]

One remaining mystery for me is how these sirens were controlled remotely. Maybe do a video on the control infrastructure?

[@michaelturner4457]

I guess it's a phone line, and a box of electronics and relays.

[@dyl46225]

Phone line or 'P.O. Line' as named in the control boxes.

[@cebruthius]

@@dyl46225 And then what. Relays? Microcontroller?

[@MichalM]

They are connected back to the hospital via telephone lines.

[@cebruthius]

@@MichalM What are the SIGNALS

[@JustAnotherBuckyLover]

So simple, yet so effective. Beautiful.

[@BritishLifeSafetySystems]

To accurately work out the times they’ve opened and closed, the first test was on the 8th December 1952 at 10am They used to do pulse as the home office was using Hi-Lo for fallout warning grey (fallout expected within 1 hour) But once the Home Office retired this signal, broadmoor switched over to the more infamous Hi-Lo signal we know today

[@randomores]

My girlfriend’s 23 year old sister made a POINT of being weirded out by my interest in sirens when it came up in conversation. I love this though, definitely more going on in there than I thought!

[@spugintrntl]

Some people just don't understand...

[@cheetawolf]

I figured this would have just been identical to a Federal Signal 3T22, but it's interesting to see how the actual damper is at a 45 degree angle.

[@BritishLifeSafetySystems]

I never knew that the shutter sits at a 45 degree angle. That’s cool

[@ajs2120]

Likewise, I never knew either!

[@al66class59]

Certainly doesn’t look like it should be!

[@brianrigsby7900]

1:04 looks pretty tall. Would it work standing up like that, or does it need to be mounted sideways to get airflow?

[@Roostertailin]

5:33 *TRANSHIT*

[@S-CB-SL-Animations]

🤣🤣🤣

[@patrickwigmore3462]

Interesting to see inside that mechanism. If the siren dates from the late 50s, then it must have been moved onto that particular roof half way through its life, because the shopping centre was built in the 1980s (according to Wikipedia and the architectural style of the building). I wonder how long it was out of service.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

According to some people that I've spoken with, it was originally on the council offices. You're quite right that the shopping centre appeared way after the siren was first installed.

[@jezcolborne6329]

@@mrmattandmrchay did you know that the old 2ww sirens had shutters. Not all of them but in some places on the south coast they had gents and carter sirens with shutters in WW2. They sounded what was called the cuckoo signal because of surprise attacks on the see front by German fighters but still sounded the code red and raiders past signals so they must of sounded a faster hi lo sound than the broardmoor sirens

[@jezcolborne6329]

@@mrmattandmrchay they had a cuckoo siren in Margate and other seeside towns

[@jezcolborne6329]

@@mrmattandmrchay and Eastbourne had one

[@lbsiuk]

So here is what I can see. A solenoid pushes a hinge (on kind of a doorhandle of sorts to minimize pressure on the solenoid. The turning point of the hinge is where the flap is connected. The hinge is held in a position by a spring. This holds the flap in a closed position. When the solenoid is engaged it moves back, the hinge moves and flap opens up. This is operated to a timer relay. I do not think that this is a great explanation. Matt, would you like me to create an animation of this or a practical demonstration with a functioning mechanism? I am very happy to help. Plus I can subtitle this video for you.

[@FSM_Reviews]

Couldn't they use those sirens for natural disasters or civil emergencies? Our Civil Defense system in the US was repurposed as natural disaster sirens.

[@saludariverwalk1965]

No They Can’t Because Someone Will Steal It

[@sirenfreak57]

So these really are basically a horizontal Federal 3T22 in the way these operate...of course these were in service long before the 3T22 existed so I wonder if Federal Signal got the design from them or just tweaked it a bit...

[@Vigilance108]

now we know how the shutter mechanism works. Thanks Matt

[@samschannel531]

Very similar to a 3T22 Siren shutter mechanism, another dual tone siren we have here in the states..

[@WJCTechyman]

The solenoids are similar to the ones in an American Federal Signal Thunderbolt 1003, but the linkages have to operate rotating butterfly valves as opposed to sliding valves.

[@ArgaTheRexouium]

You should ask for the siren control panels

[@Palpatine001]

Wow now there was history recorded right there. Very thankful to the de-commissioning crew for allowing a good once over on the siren

[@donaldduck2855]

Social Media Is Nowhere Near As Better Than These Amazing Sirens

[@wesselvermeer8358]

Why didn't you take it home? 😂

[@Dave-ji1hv]

They are property of the hospital. He can't just take them.

[@MichalM]

@@Dave-ji1hv Correct.

[@trainzinnit9232]

@@Dave-ji1hv plus where would he put it?

[@jakeeves2149]

he couldent he would have had to ask broadmoor to take it

[@alfonsgamingtornadosirenfan]

Why

[@DonaldDuck-hl2zs]

The Whole Siren System Was Working Flawlessly After It Was First Installed

[@sirenealertedu1ermercredid256]

when is the siren F video from castairs village coming?

[@nthuziasTWO]

hey matt, i'm working on an informative video on the klaxon cs8 sirens. do you mind if i use some of your videos? i will give credit in the description. thanks!

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Hi. Thanks for your message. Normally I'd have a look at your channel to see what type of content you're creating before deciding. If I allowed everyone to use snippets of my videos, then it'd get out of hand and my videos (which I work very hard to film and produce) would start appearing everywhere on youtube. This is why I don't automatically say yes to everyone. However, your channel has no content at all for me to make a decision on. Crediting me in a video on a brand new youtube channel, is unlikely to give me many (if any) further views on my videos. Therefore on this occasion, I'm very sorry, but I'm going to have to say no unfortunately. I do appreciate you asking first though.

[@TheTechnologymachinery]

Sweet! the solenoids kinda reminds me of a Federal Signal 3T22.

[@WJCTechyman]

Or the Thunderbolt 1003, but the linkages do a rotary motion instead of linear.

[@HSETM]

It basically is but its at 50 hz, it has no horns, its on its side, and the solenoids are different

[@ajs2120]

How long ago did you film this Matt, I wonder if they've got them all back at Broadmoor now?

[@al66class59]

That was maybe three weeks to a month go. I was invited (as I know both Michal and Matt) but was unable to go due to family engagements. Apparently the only ones left now are sirens F and G which haven’t been removed, but nobody knows for sure.

[@jackhewitt7902]

Love this old stuff I really get a kick out how simple things were back then but I’d say it’s overdue for re greasing still I suppose maintenance Is difficult when parts aren’t available anymore.

[@notanuser-sorry]

Hey, i also have bought a similar siren like this in my garden, it's name is Cs8

[@claudehermann9300]

Beau démontage

[@FEDERALSIGNALTECH]

That's how the FS 3T22 and the THUNDERBOLT 1003 work those are soleniodes that operates the shutter .

[@HSETM]

This is a federal 3t22 except no intake stands, no horns, sits sideways, different solenoids

[@CorollaChronicles]

So basically completely different.

[@HSETM]

@@CorollaChronicles Y e p

[@SirensAndAlarmsOfNorthernIL]

Well it looks like a Federal Signal 3T22, or Thunderbolt 1003 solenoid, but a 1003 has smaller solenoids. And this siren has a lower pitch than a Federal Signal 3T22, probably bc U.K's alternating current frequency is 50hz so the motor spins slower and in u.s is 60hz

[@Jeagles]

I’d love to just have one

[@vi1368]

Thats brilliant.

[@jp-alarms]

TRANSHIT van 😂, a classic haha

[@Electronicsandsirens]

I hope these sirens aren’t destroyed when removed. It would be great if they used them for something else. You should see if you could buy one off them

[@Jeagles]

Flamethrower guy unfortunately the NHS have been adamant on their destruction to prevent them getting into the wrong hands

[@Electronicsandsirens]

@@Jeagles thanks for letting me know, a sad end for these sirens but a valid reason for their destruction all the same

[@TheBoysTopSecretisOrganization]

They're called Hi-lo and were used for fire calls in the US.

[@darkenedsoul3425]

Did you get to keep one

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Nope, despite many requests from many people they decided not to make any available. I can't blame them, if someone rigged one up and activated it, then the management at BMH would take the criticism from releasing them in the first place.

[@darkenedsoul3425]

@@mrmattandmrchay I want one

[@HSETM]

They use solenoids, and a shutter valve. All of that is connected to a flasher in the rcm

[@J19_vlogger74]

The inside of the solenoid is remarkably similar to the solenoid of an FS 3T22

[@Sipex6484]

What happened to the siren afterwards? I want it.

[@AmorDeae]

It grew a body and became siren head

[@Jeagles]

It got turned into bean tins

[@BSC_PRODUCTIONS]

Looks similar to a 3T22 damper but in a different layout

[@johnang700]

I love your videos

[@Vint_2003]

where do these siren go after they been taken down

[@abysspegasusgaming]

Depends on the location. Most end up in waste while either partially or fully assembled, left in a city's garage, or fully dismantled/destroyed for the contents.

[@Jeagles]

In the case of broadmoor, the scrap yard

[@rhodesami]

What happens to these old sirens? Do they sit somewhere forgotten about or re-sold elsewhere?

[@RODALCO2007]

That is a very heavy-duty solenoid. Pity you couldn't save the siren. Offer the guys a couple of boxes of beer. (well-greased up mechanism)

[@simontay4851]

So why did some of the shutters not work? Mechanism siezed or something else? What do you think Matt.

[@battytec]

My theory is that the ones that stuck shut didn't receive power and ones that stuck open had snapped/damaged springs.

[@ajs2120]

Possible that the winding's on the transformer were burnt out.

[@al66class59]

The shutters worked off 240V so I don’t see a need for a transformer if you’re going to use such a big electromagnet.

[@YourAverageMODude145]

Some very similar aspects between the CS8 and 3t22

[@olivere5497]

Wait, they put one on a shopping center??? Count Dankula should report on this madladdery.

[@Chevy_Camaroz28]

2:07 looks a lot different than the 3T22 solenoid

[@ThunderboltSiren1003]

Keep it !!

[@slorznovitch]

Solenoid energized to open the shutter - de-energized to close it.

[@J19_vlogger74]

5:33 "Transh!t"

[@willthetrill4849]

They better not be scrapping those sirens

[@JakeMiller-wc4ck]

what did they do with the siren? destroy it? or sell it on a auction website or something like that?

[@ACAAllertor125]

I Hope they save one of these Beauties.

[@noahandrewsandrews7830]

Why didn't you ask if you take a siren home?

[@mrmattandmrchay]

Hi Noah, It's not as easy as that. These are not the type of thing a high security hospital will give away. I did ask about 4 years ago, and the answer was always no.

[@thatonelonelyeagle5398]

You should save it!

[@Nico93]

Is it possible to ask these people in taking it home?

[@positionlightproductions6187]

You need to nab one of these.

[@coolcrafter3d690]

Why are this great sirenes decomisioned? thats so sad :(

[@rainyrec]

For reverse 911 or 119 where ever the emergency number is and Phone Warnings and TV too.

[@zackdow95]

Miss hearing those sirens on Monday 10:00

[@colbywhitmore564]

Cool technology back in the 50s in United kingdom.

[@AraceliMedranoCarrillo]

I love tornado siren

[@sebastiannielsen]

Why don't they just use a gearbox connected to the actual siren wheel which picks up the siren rotation, and which then brings down rotational speed down to 3 rps (half a turn on 1.5 s) which converts to 180 rpm. Then just a mechanical linkage connected from that cogwheel to the shutter door.

[@cliffjockey]

The more mechanical moving parts, the higher likelihood of a mechanical failure .

[@sawyerislesministryofdefen1845]

did you buy the siren?

[@F71Andrixx]

but where did the siren go?

[@AussieBlueWolfVlogs]

Playing with the flaps reminds me playing with a fidget

[@jakeeves2149]

what type of sirien is that

[@jakeeves5935]

You know when a sirien is very ild when even the techs have trouble opening the control boxes

[@KvisTwig]

I would love to have the privilege of inheriting a siren intended for the scrap yard…

[@adamfletcher4262]

What happens to thiese sirens after decommission

[@rainyrec]

scrapped or restored

[@Jeagles]

Trap Star just scrapped unfortunately

[@omanasahmed9729]

5:35 RIP

[@Lighting_Desk]

So what's their future after they get moved on?

[@Jeagles]

LightingDesk the bin

[@HelloKittyFanMan.]

What's the point of actively removing a siren just to run the decommissioning program? Why not just cut the power connections from it so that nobody can turn it on?

[@ACAAllertor125]

Can you save one?

[@mrmattandmrchay]

When they were removed, they were all taken back to Broadmoor hospital. Many people asked, no-one was allowed. But it would be irresponsible of them to give them away, else people could power them up, create a nuisance and Broadmoor would be held accountable for giving them away in the first place. At the time, they were receiving so many emails 'can i have a siren' that I think they got fed up of the subject ;) I guess my channel probably didn't exactly help either.

[@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440]

That was the one that wasn’t working

[@jonuthinslawncareandconstr7772]

Looks almost exactly like a 3T 22 shutter control

[@jonuthinslawncareandconstr7772]

FYI 3T22s to look exactly like that just with horns on it

[@HSETM]

@@jonuthinslawncareandconstr7772 and they are right side up, Solenoids are different and its at 60hz

[@budgie508]

why is the siren kinda old and rusty and the chopper is scratch up with gray and red

[@Jeagles]

Sirens And Air Conds because it’s 65 years old?

[@michaelturner4457]

Because it's been outside in the British weather for 60 years, and that can take its toll.

[@Vint_2003]

what will happen to them

[@al66class59]

Hospital decided to scrap them all.

[@martinstano888]

This is a very big solenoid

[@budgie508]

this CS8 is like a hornless 3t22 but with no conduits Lol and its flipped over

[@TeimonKauppa739TeimoJake]

that siren without working shutters is sounded like a German war siren

[@LadyCleo1]

I HAVEN'T GOT TIME FOR TISSUES, thats a bit rich.

[@blue9husky]

it looks like a 3t22 wiht qut horns

[@incrediblemichael]

yesss big solenoids

[@Watertowermaps]

Make to hi lo

[@HelloKittyFanMan.]

"Giant electromagnet." No, not really. Want a giant one? Try the ones at metal salvage sites! Here, man, this is called a _solenoid._

[@zackdow95]

Don't forget to use the drone

[@BurnedNoodle]

Feels so weird, but in the intro, I think I hear moaning, and then a hear the guy screwing of the cover, *sex sounds*, I don’t know why

[@mrmattandmrchay]

haha this comment made me laugh!! I'll put my headphones on tomorrow and let you know what I think..! :D

[@giemli1]

Matt, i wonder why you not asked for permission to take both sirene and All control equipment with you home 😆 what about the Main controller, was you able to record a video of that inside?

[@Lift.Tracker]

Great video. It's very interesting to see that big electromagnet. Also, it'S RD. I made a channel with some videos on it. I will likely use this channel from now on. i just wanted you to know i'm the same person. Thanks for your Email by the way.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

cool. Just a note, you could be limiting your video content by your channel name. I mean, if you upload Schindler, then it's not a Express? Perhaps I'm over-analysing it as usual!! :)

[@Lift.Tracker]

mrmattandmrchay Hmmm, you could be right. I’m not planning on only uploading Express lifts, just a thing old or interesting. I genuinely couldn’t think of a name. Do you have any ideas? Oh, and I think I found an amazingly rare lift in Edinburgh yesterday. It’s a Smith Major and Stevens lift which was modernised by Express in the 50s/60s.

[@mrmattandmrchay]

@@Lift.Tracker That lift you describe sounds wicked! About the name, how about using the word Express as per dictionary definition: "express definition": 1. to show a feeling, opinion, or fact: 2. to communicate what you think or feel, by speaking. You could play on that by making it something like "Express lift interest", hmmmm I must admit that was a crap attempt you shouldn't rename it to that, but you know what I mean? I'll have a think...!

[@Lift.Tracker]

mrmattandmrchay Channel name changed! I don’t know why I didn’t just think of this name in the first place! Thanks for the suggestion to change it. I’ve got a reply back from the guy at BSM. He’s invited me to a tour of plant rooms, lift motor rooms, the basement and staff passages. Unfortunately it’s probably too late for you to come along, but I hope that you will be able to get the arrangement of seeing the lift motor room! :-)

[@mrmattandmrchay]

@@Lift.Tracker That sounds fantastic! Your channel is showing some good content so keep up the effort. Always worth trying to go the extra mile then uploading it, rather than doing the 'short cut' and just uploading anything. Well, it's always been my way of doing things, as you know, I prefer to spend loads of time on videos to get a good reputation for doing quality videos. But this is just me, and you should make your channel what you want it to be. REALLY looking forward to seeing your BSM videos, but my advise is TAKE A WIDE ANGLE CAMERA AND TORCH! Would have liked to meet up and enjoy the experience with you, but how about making this YOURS and own it? - I mean, you made the effort to contact them, so you should get the reward and views? Let me know when it's up.

[@ScarOne314]

It's for Hi-Lo.

[@acap-5030]

Klaxon CS8

[@budgie508]

nothing is in the damper the damper is just a flat circle the solenoid is just a box

[@therailcat9790]

This is a CS8

[@Cheese145b]

Broadmoor siren

[@Googlemapsirens]

What a stupid air raid siren low mounted at 1:26

[@xiaomong8]

This is Siren K

[@jaydenpokemonsanriolover7271]

This siren is siren K