What's My Line? - Edgar & Candice Bergen; Steve Lawrence [panel] (Sep 12, 1965)

MYSTERY GUEST: Edgar & Candice Bergen
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Steve Lawrence, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
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[@donsmith8705]

My goodness, I had almost forgotten how breathtakingly beautiful 19-year-old Candice Bergen was

[@ajpisharodi]

I grew up watching Candice as the cynical, huskier voiced star of Murphy Brown and the "one minute two minute" Sprint commercials. I was surprised to find she was a gorgeous model in her younger years. I absolutely love her here!

[@isacandersson7650]

As a swedish man, it’s so cool to see Edgar Bergen actually talk swedish during an American television broadcast in the 60’s!

[@rmelin13231]

Jag håller med dig.

[@kingdoc3262]

Was wondering if it was real or made up words. Thanks for clarifying 👍🏾

[@isacandersson7650]

@@kingdoc3262 No problem!

[@bbailey7818]

That's America! Or was. All I know of Swedish is Jeg elsker dig.

[@isacandersson7650]

@@bbailey7818 Why just ‘Jag älskar dig’?

[@Kim-mz8co]

Gave me chills when Dorothy Kilgallen said, "So, I'm dead," in this episode that aired less than two months before her death.

[@CabinFever52]

wow.

[@rossw9764]

Eleven months after this show aired. The first guest died when her helicopter crashed.

[@mlr4524]

@@rossw9764 Oh no....so sorry to hear that.

[@lindaloe]

How Horrible!!

[@PROUDCANADIANGIRL]

@@mlr4524she was murdered like Marilyn Monroe. Sickening.

[@TheWriterWalker]

Dorothy and Arlene are so beautifully styled.

[@TheWriterWalker]

@Lukas Lennon, I had never heard of Flixzone. Thanks for the tip.

[@kevinconners2283]

This was almost 55 years ago and Candice and Steve are still with us. Mazel Tov!

[@RonGerstein]

Steve has dementia now (12/23)

[@randysills4418]

Unfortunately, Steve died about ten days ago (early April of 2024). He was a talented, nice man...❤

[@pomposus]

Throughout most of their interrogation, Edgar Bergen is responding in Swedish. This becomes especially amusing when Ms. Kilgallen asks him whether he is of Italian heritage and he replies, in Swedish, "No, I am Swedish."

[@notvalidcharacters]

Yeah I heard that. Should have been a clue right there.

[@jpmaher8220]

Jag är svensk

[@mcplutt]

@@jpmaher8220 Jag är norrbagge.

[@gkatcher]

A sad note to this show is that Marie McDonald, the Helicopter Traffic reporter died almost exactly one year later when the helicopter she was in crashed. The pilot also lost his life in the crash

[@shaunbarr1856]

I'm sorry to hear that 🙏

[@ruthwayneperry3097]

Always so elegant and refined..So respectful . Miss those times.

[@brianpollock929]

I just fell in love with this girl Marie McDonald. Absolutely beautiful. Then I read on to find out she died in a helicopter crash. at only 28 yrs old. I am now devastated. She never had the chance to experience life.

[@loissimmons6558]

It was on the day before her 29th birthday. We are never guaranteed tomorrow.

[@nomiddlenamenmn427]

I agree. I believe she was married. She used “Miss” professionally.

[@dadaevan]

Candice is 19 here. 19! Gorgeous. Love her forever.

[@LorenIpsum75]

I love Candace Bergen's very expressive and revealing signature. It's as if to say, "I'm going to show Dad and his stupid dummy I'm going to be a star!" (And years later, Candace Bergen got that TV show, too.)

[@LetJusticeRoll]

What a joy to see this show again. I liked watching it when I was young, and I'm still impressed with the intelligence and gentle manners of the panel and host. It was a pleasure to see Edgar and Candace Bergen back then too.

[@CabinFever52]

Yes, little Candy Bergen (that nickname caught me off guard), who became of my favorite female stars in her own right.

[@melodiefrances3898]

Arlene is so sharp 😂❤

[@gheffz]

Great show! Thanks!

[@Tre404]

It is interesting to note that Daly is 51 years old here, and looks much, much older.. while Cerf hasn't appeared to age much in the 15 years they had been on the air!

[@sdkelmaruecan2907]

That's true, but you know what? when I look at my grandfather's old pictures with his brothers, I noticed that even in their late 20s, they could look as if they were 40, i'm talking of the 50s/60s, I guess it was a different time where people just got along with the effect of time and carried with pride the mark of their age, not trying to look more youthful or juvenile... I don't know. That said, even for a man who's in his early 50s, I agree that John looks much older... it's like once the 60s popped up, he gained 5 years just like that... in 1959, he looked his age.

[@stumack9755]

every1 looks older n black & white.

[@soulierinvestments]

Fortunately a lot of Edgar Bergne's radio programs have been preserved in Old Time Radio, and it is still remarkably funny.

[@MrJoeybabe25]

In fact, even today, over thirty six years after his death. His lips are still moving!

[@loissimmons6558]

But you can't see that on radio. This is like deja vu all over again. I remember commenting on the idea of a ventriloquist doing an act on radio. The comedy remains but you either lose the appreciation for the ventriloquist's skill in not moving their lips or it covers up a relatively unskilled act with noticeable moving lips. What's left is what many a radio personality had as part of their shtick: a cast of characters to play off of. Fortunately, most radio personalities were better than Lt. Steven Haulk. (Not only wasn't he funny, but he was broadcasting to a country that had recently kicked out the French.) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZaZgoOAm9d6mbs

[@abradley2198]

Where do you find the recordings?

[@flashflame4952]

This is when PEOPLE used their MINDS!!! Great show! Candice Bergen is forever beautiful!

[@cromwellchild]

Candice Bergen was a sensational beauty. Just prior to the movie The Group.

[@333mrwill]

My word, What's My Line was a wonderful show.

[@mjanavel]

So was To Tell the Truth.

[@markw4263]

Everyone is so polite and sophisticated, from a different time indeed…

[@leemclaury6251]

And now Candice is in her 70s this was a long time ago . She was called “ a star of the future “

[@gilliankew]

She has had a stellar career. I first came to know her in Murphy Brown, a very progressive show for the times when expectations s generally for us women were much narrower than today.

[@rr7firefly]

Candice, Candice, Candice! Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous.

[@edgeworldpictures6831]

Unbelievable DNA went into the making of Candice. Hawt.

[@sandrageorge3488]

I loved Candice as Murphy Brown.

[@VelvetCyberpunk]

I love Candice Bergen!

[@Joesfosterdogs]

Candice was a super fox. WOW

[@kshinokevin]

23 years later, Candace would play a ground-breaking character on TV called Murphy Brown ! She was great in a SNL 1970's skit with the late Gilda Radner (who played a character named "Fern"). From what I remembered reading, Candace's dad, Edgar was a ventriloquist who had a puppet/doll called "Charlie McCarthy."

[@jamesanthony5681]

Ground-breaking? Hardly SNL, 1970's? She was a good sport and likeable, but not funny.

[@dinahbrown902]

Yep

[@RonGerstein]

Edger Bergen was the best ever ventriloquist in history and had his own radio show and was in movies and many movie shorts, and had a couple of puppets: Charlie McCarthy and Mortimer Snerd.

[@ellenebay3470]

What great memories this brings back! Aaah... for the times when there was some class and intelligence on TV.

[@davidcondon4211]

Steve was a very handsome guy

[@stephendevore9362]

Candy a star of the future. Indeed 😍😎

[@joannagipson12]

Loved this particular show. It was nice to see The Bergen's. Just look at Candice! Still beautiful... Oo

[@cmcb09]

Her mother Frances was a stunner as well, Candice looks more and more like her as she gets older.

[@kapuoa]

I was 8 and she was 9 or 10 on stage with her dad- she was my very first "Celebrity Crush".

[@hishamjararwah3125]

Answer for questions joanna edgar Bergen date and place of death?

[@Cosmo-Kramer]

I never saw it, but a few years later Candice would go on to star in that religious picture, "Cardinal Knowledge".

[@lindadeal3344]

The picture was not religious and was "Carnal Knowledge".!

[@OceanKingNY]

Wow. TWO people from this episode -- Steve Lawrence and Candice Bergen -- are still with us as of 2017.

[@preppysocks209]

I met her a number of years ago and found her to be very gracious.

[@stumack9755]

steve is dead n 2022.

[@Noone58319]

Steve is alive in 2023! How did he manage that?!?!

[@randysills4418]

No, Steve just died a few weeks ago. Today is April 14, 2024.

[@joycetyner7643]

Candice !!! Much love admiration and Respect. I appreciate YOU !!!

[@molinalong3468]

R I P Marie McDonald 1937 -1966

[@shirleyrombough8173]

Amazing that Bennet was married for 25 years. Good for him. A record for show business!

[@JKat316]

Pretty sure Jimmy Stewart has the record in Hollywood.

[@gailsirois7175]

His wife must have been incredibly strong...or foolish

[@shirleyrombough8173]

@@gailsirois7175 - I think he was a very good husband and an interesting companion. This was show business. He needed to make the show interesting for the viewers. Be kind.

[@bryanspindle4455]

Bennet Cerf was primarily a publisher with Random House. WML was a side gig for him.

[@bryanspindle4455]

​@@JKat316 Bob and Delores Hope were married 69 years.

[@markogden1992]

Yes, it's really sad that Marie McDonald, the WWDC traffic reporter featured in this episode, died in a helicopter crash in DC's Maryland suburbs, a year after this aired.

[@jamesmcinnis208]

Yes, it's usually sad when people are killed.

[@JudgeJulieLit]

And less than two months after this What's My Line episode aired, Dorothy Kilgallen died in her NYC hotel on November 8, 1965, hours after filming WML.

[@candicegerman2748]

@@JudgeJulieLit , did you notice that Dorothy's face / eyes were swollen?

[@JudgeJulieLit]

candice german I see that as just her usual bone structure; and cosmetic highlighting around her eyes, but too on her facial skin to make it glow, reflect more stage light. She looks healthy.

[@mike856ms]

@@JudgeJulieLit I believe Dorothy was killed by the government.

[@MrKmoconne]

I love watching this series. The best way to watch is to block out their profession with your hand and guess along with the panel what their profession is.

[@OceanKingNY]

I block out the profession sometimes too. It really makes you appreciate just how difficult the game is for the panelists.

[@jmccracken1963]

+John Doe I just close my eyes and bow my head until John Daly says, "All right...." and the applause subsides, because that is when the contestants' "lines" cease to be shown on the TV screen.

[@litealite]

I do the same thing .

[@princeharming8963]

Respect to you... It's a lot tougher than one might think!

[@lindaloe]

I Always Do.I Like It If I Can Guess It Before They Do,It's Not easy!! The Panel Was Usually Pretty Sharp!!

[@leannsherman6723]

Candace Bergen was so young ~ and pretty!

[@YY4Me133]

I'm pretty sure the reason for the "Miss" or "Mrs." is that they addressed contestants by their last name. If they had used first names, or "Ms.," there would have been no need to ask whether a woman was married.

[@owlcu]

Candice is a teenager here, only 18, and absolutely stunning.

[@JasonSmith-my7ug]

Hahahaa!! EVEN DOROTHY lost it at Bennett's clinker! THAT's RARE!

[@PROUDCANADIANGIRL]

Bennett Cerf with the original dad joke! ♥️😆

[@kentetalman9008]

Bennett WAS the original dad joke.

[@MrJoeybabe25]

I guess in 1965 Edgar Bergen was still well remembered although he had been off of radio for nearly 10 years (he was one of the last of big time night time stars to leave radio in 1956). I always liked him, and thought it a hoot that ventriloquism on the radio was a hit. That is a testament to Bergen's talent, although he could not keep his mouth shut while operating his dummies. I saw him maybe 40 years ago on Tom Snyder and I'll never forget his answer to Tom about why he never seemed to get that part of the act under control. He said he wanted to be honest about where the sound was coming from!

[@2508bona]

He also had a cameo role in 1979's THE MUPPET MOVIE. He died in late '78 before the movie came out.

[@WhatsMyLine]

He also hosted "Do You Trust Your Wife?" on TV, which was taken over by Johnny Carson.

[@MrJoeybabe25]

What's My Line? He was also the original "Grandpa Walton" in the pilot for that series.

[@JRobbySh]

The vocal characters he created were sheer genius. Testimony in how much Charlie McCarthy was brought alive, is the story of the guest star who stoop down to retrieve the script that Bergen had dropped and in all seriousness handed it to MCCARTHY! Incidentally, Charlie was an IRISH character.

[@LorenIpsum75]

Edgar Bergen played a supporting role in the film "I Remember Mama" (RKO, 1948). Good film. Bergen and McCarthy in film never impressed me as funny. Definitly going to find the Bergen and McCarthy show on the OTR sites.

[@VahanNisanian]

Also tragically, Marie McDonald, the first contestant, died in a terrible helicopter crash a year later. She was only 28.

[@jmccracken1963]

That was a horrible crash - just minutes after the first of her eight afternoon traffic report. And it was just a day or two before her 29th birthday. www.flickr.com/photos/35687899@N00/5046131359/

[@rjnagle]

Wow, how tragic and what a lovely sweet woman.

[@Deltadivaix]

She resembles Ellen Barkin

[@kelloggs5473]

Marie died in 1966, not 1965. The helicopter accident was reported in the defunct newspaper that was called The Evening Star in Washington, DC. You can access a database that has a digital scan of the article about the helicopter crash. The database is part of the DC public library website.

[@ilzamaria6424]

How terrible.

[@leannsherman6723]

The cameraman on this show we’re good too they always focusing on the four panelists expressions when they learned the mystery guest or the profession of someone.

[@bovnycccoperalover3579]

The next year, Miss Bergen starred in the movie "The Group" based on the book by Mary McCarthy. It made her a star, which, of course, she still is and beautiful, as well.

[@kelloggs5473]

The movie titled The Group was in the middle of its New York City shoot when Candice Bergen appeared with her father as the mystery guest. Neither of them mentioned her gig in the movie, nor did John Daly. I don’t know why.

[@jamesanthony5681]

Attractive and likeable, but not a very good actor.

[@esmeephillips5888]

@@jamesanthony5681 The Harvard Lampoon gave her one of its Worst Actress awards IIRC. She was stilted, and embarrassing when she tried to let herself go. A spuriously sophisticated TV sitcom was her level.

[@esmeephillips5888]

@@kelloggs5473 Pauline Kael wrote a long, caustic article about the making of 'The Group'.

[@jamesanthony5681]

@@esmeephillips5888 Stilted and embarrassing are good words. I'd add another: Cringe. She won a bunch of comedy Emmys in the late '80's and '90's and I couldn't figure out why, believing that Julia Louis Dreyfus should have won it almost every year for Seinfeld. And then I did some research. Bergen competed in the outstanding lead actress category and Dreyfus in the outstanding supporting actress bracket. Go figure. She got Murphy Brown (despite a bad audition) because she was attractive, likeable , a good sport and wouldn't be a sh*t disturber or a pain in the ass on set. And the producer wanted her.

[@Steff2929again]

Edgar Bergen's Swedish was actually quite good. Many children of immigrants never learnt or maintained the language of their parents. It's quite difficult, even for those who try. I'm impressed.

[@BesonXL]

Me too. "Ja, det är rätt, det är rätt." and "Nej, vi gör inte det." "Nej, jag är svensk." This must be the only time real Swedish words were heard in WML. :)

[@SuperWinterborn]

Johan Bengtsson Yes, Mr. Bergen's (or should I say "Bergren?) Swedish was surprisingly clear and distinct. Maybe Steff2929again is Swedish, or Scandinavian as well? ;)

[@Steff2929again]

SuperWinterborn Edgar Bergen legally changed his name quite early on in his career. The Swedish name Berggren is difficult to pronounce for an English speaking person. It's a compound noun with different pronunciations of the first and the second "g" [bærjɡre:n]. Almost impossible to figure that out from the spelling unless you know Swedish. "Bergen" is more similar to how most English speakers would say the name, and it's still a Swedish word. "Bergen" is the definite, plural form of "berg", meaning "the mountains". It's also the name of a breathtakingly beautiful city in Norway (although the etymology behind that name is somewhat more complicated). And yes, I am Swedish :)

[@SuperWinterborn]

Steff2929again Of course he changed his name, and the reason for why he did so, was obvious. ;) The etymologial origin of "Bergen" (the city in Norway), is not certain, but assumed to come from "Berg=Mountain, and "Vin(r)"= meadow, like "Vinland" (America, discovered by Leiv Eiriksson as the first European who sat the foot where "Newfoundland" is now) should mean "The Land of Meadows" ;) But since you seem to be quite informed about this topic, Im sure you already knew this! Welcome, to another Scandinavian, (although I already know you from earlier comments) and as you must have guessed by now, Johan Bengtsson is also Swedish. :)

[@savethetpc6406]

Johan Bengtsson You know what's really funny? I used the translate feature on your comment, above, so that I could understand your quotes of Edgar Bergen's Swedish replies. Once again, the translation turned out very well ("Yes, that's right, that's right." and "No, we do not." "No, I'm Swedish.") But, for some odd reason, it also translated the *word* "Swedish" into the word "English," so that your last sentence reads, "This Must Be The Only Time real English words were heard in WML." LOL! (And I don't know why it added all those extra capital letters either!) Steff2929again Do you live in Sweden now?

[@mike856ms]

Marie McDonald was a beautiful woman. Nice voice

[@VahanNisanian]

This was the last season in Studio 52. A year later in September 1966, the show would move to Studio 50 (The Ed Sullivan Theater).

[@jackseward7779]

"Do your good looks have anything to do"(with the lady reporter performing on radio)? Steve Lawrence actually asked this, and no one at all laughed!

[@WaltGekko]

Of course, Candice Bergen would go onto to great fame herself. Most notably as the first-ever female host of "Saturday Night Live" a decade after this originally aired in 1975 and of course as "Murphy Brown" starting in 1988.

[@normanduke8855]

I remember seeing her as the Revlon "Tawny" girl in the window of a local pharmacy back in the late 50's. Then, of course, she made a huge impact as "Lakey" in 'The Group' in the mid 60's.

[@jmccracken1963]

+norman duke Not just in the boring ensemble movie "The Group" (which I started watching one evening (it's up on DailyMotion) and gave up after about 30-35 minutes, because I found the characters shallow, manipulative, and just plain dislikeable), but also in "The Sand Pebbles" (which I liked a LOT) in 1966. She did well in a variety of movies, including "Soldier Blue," before hitting it a little bigger in "Carnal Knowledge" in 1970. Then came "Bite The Bullet" and "The Wind and the Lion" in 1975, and her career was off and running.

[@WaltGekko]

Adding, again as Murphy Brown as that series just started a reboot on CBS.

[@mocowan6642]

And she was the first person to host SNL twice in one season!

[@johnsilva9139]

She was also on SNL just recently in a skit with the FIVE TIMERS CLUB ( people who have hosted SNL five or more times ). Now that's longevity!! ( For both Candice and SNL )

[@jasonfrancis6174]

The second contestant; Edith Sliver from New Jersey draws some interest for me because my late grandmother's family last name was Silver but they were African American. Her family were raised by white people and Mrs. Silver could be a long lost distant relative of mine and my grandmother's family. It's just a thought.

[@savethetpc6406]

Jason Francis I think it's a fairly common name, but you never know -- stranger things have happened. :) I once made friends with a girl at camp who had the same last name as I did. Everyone always used to ask us if we were related, and we both replied no, it's just a common name. Months later we found out that we were actually 2nd cousins and had probably met before when we were much younger!

[@jasonfrancis6174]

I know it could be a long shot but it was just a thought. My grandmother's name was Arletha Silver before she married my grandfather James Francis. Like I said, it's just a thought.

[@melaniexoxo]

Have your DNA tested. You just may be!

[@PACERGIRL68]

Jason Francis w

[@dinacox1971]

I was curious about the contestant Marie McDonald and wonder how her career progressed. I was shocked and saddened to find out via Google that she actually was killed approximately 1 year later in 1966 in a helicopter crash while working. This information came from reading the transcript of a lawsuit filed by the pilot's family against the contracted helicoter company. In the text, it is also stated that Ms. McDonald lost her life. Sad...I would imagine that it was bittersweet that the family may have had the recording of this show as a remembrance.

[@arijones09]

Both she and Dorothy would be gone within the year. It's so sad to think about

[@jetpilot3714]

I researched her also just out of curiosity. Very sad indeed.

[@coinsaver]

Reports from several sources state: "In Washington, D.C. a WWDC radio station helicopter crashed and burned shortly after taking off on September 1, 1966. Marie Elaine McDonald, of Silver Spring, Maryland (just outside of Washington, D.C.), was a helicopter broadcast traffic reporter for WWDC-FM, a Washington, D.C. radio station. Her rush-hour motto was, "If you're in a jam, here I am!" Marie McDonald, 28, and Lesco Kaufman, her helicopter pilot, landed at an industrial park between morning reports, to pick up cold drinks. Upon taking off, the helicopter struck power lines, crashed and burned, killing both her and the pilot. She died one day prior to her 29th birthday. She was born September 2, 1937 in Dallas, Texas, a native of Wichita Falls, Texas. Marie graduated from Midwestern College there with a bachelor's degree in theater arts. She later attended Yale University's Graduate· School of Drama. Besides her broadcasting work, she was known locally both as a fashion model and as an actress. Marie had been a contestant on the CBS game show "What's My Line?" which aired on September 12, 1965, one year earlier."

[@user-ne8lh2vr2t]

Thanks for the Info I wish more comments were of the nature as I search also and sometimes it' not so easy THANKS

[@melodiefrances3898]

So sad.

[@kaceekay9705]

Cute dress on miss MacDonald. Love that style

[@VahanNisanian]

Candice Bergen was also Mystery Guest on a lost 1967 episode.

[@savethetpc6406]

John pronounced her name, "Can*dees*," and neither she nor her father corrected him, though I'm quite sure she pronounced it "*Can*diss" during her Murphy Brown heyday at least.

[@diehard4219]

Arlene francis looks like Helen Mirren

[@geneobrien8907]

That's what I thought.

[@Smuley_ROA]

I was drawn to this show bcoz i was searching for helen mirren and saw a clip of wml, and saw the resemblance of arlene to helen, i said how come helen was in a black and white tv show, she isnt that old, hehe....... and the rest is history ....... 😀😃

[@ladygaladriel6564]

Omg i have always thought of that!!!

[@JRobbySh]

Yes! But a Mirren older that Arlene was at the time.

[@soulierinvestments]

Bennett's trip, though no one knew it at the time, subtracted the final time together of the varsity team of Kilgallen -- Francis -- Cerf by 4 episodes.

[@Smuley_ROA]

Sad 😞😟 love them love their wittiness and humor

[@melodiefrances3898]

😢

[@Danimal300zx]

Candice a mere 19 years old there is actually older today than her father was then.

[@jmccracken1963]

Not quite. Edgar Bergen was almost 62 years and 7 months old when this WML? episode aired. (His birthdate was 16 February 1903.) Candice Bergen (birthdate: 9 May 1946) just turned 62 four days ago.

[@jeffsanford6935]

@@jmccracken1963 As a little math check, that's a phenomenally good 72 years old

[@loissimmons6558]

+jmccracken1963 +Jeff Sanford There are three kinds of people in the world: those who are good in math and those who are not! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnvXn3iLhdujq9U

[@AlphaGeekgirl]

@@jmccracken1963 Now she's 73! ;) In a few more years, she'll be old enough to be his mother :P

[@mcplutt]

@@jmccracken1963 Being born in 1946 she is 73 now.

[@gonefishing5434]

It is very obvious the first contestant was playing up to the camera BIGTIME! She is very pretty and looking for her big chance to get noticed.

[@marthawoodworth]

Candice Bergen was one of the most beautiful women in the wor.d.

[@tylerkochman1007]

My mind is blown that Candice is old enough/the show is recent enough that she appeared on it

[@markbrown7913]

She did a lot of television with her father when she was a child. Here she is in 1958 on Groucho Marx's show kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqqUhYyoep2mr6s

[@kentetalman9008]

I'm about 7 months older than Candice. I must have seen this show when it was broadcast.

[@jayrice5156]

Love Marie's dress. Wish I had a copy.

[@bubbastill2040]

I don't know how many of you caught this,but around 23:10 Dorothy says,"I'm dead."

[@gogaijin]

Yes I caught it and she was killed only a few months later too.... Again so sad!

[@richatlarge462]

I came here to see if anybody else had commented on that. A chilling throwaway line, in retrospect.

[@TheCosmicVagabond]

Spooky. My sister said the same words just a few weeks before she died in a car crash.

[@esmeephillips5888]

@@gogaijin She killed herself, by mistake. Enough conspiracism already.

[@tompaulcampbell]

@@esmeephillips5888 "Conspiracism"? 🤔

[@litealite]

Arlene Francis is lovely .

[@mathewfullerton8577]

Steve Lawrence's question about whether her good looks were important in her radio position was inane, at best. But it does remind one of the old joke, clearly inapplicable in Miss McDonald's case, that a person has "a face for radio".

[@dangeroreilly2028]

Just as Edgar was an excellent ventriloquist ON RADIO. He had great writers but did not try to hide mouth movements.

[@redbeard36]

She was stunning

[@EstrafaDC]

Interesting to hear the host repeatedly pronounce it as "Candeece" Bergen. Makes me wonder if that's how it was pronounced when she was younger.

[@randallmacphee7260]

Arlene and Dorothy , both brilliant .

[@melodiefrances3898]

Totally agree. And classy. ❤

[@stumack9755]

Candy is radiant.

[@dinahbrown902]

Candy?

[@grantbewick6164]

The newspaper called The Evening Star of Washington, DC reported in 1966 that this radio station traffic reporter had died when her helicopter crashed.

[@WhatsMyLine]

+Grant Bewick I'm really enjoying your comments, Grant-- I think you're new to the channel (or at least new to commenting on the videos). I don't remember seeing you before the last couple of weeks or so.

[@grantbewick6164]

+What's My Line? The other comment on the helicopter reporter from Raoul Thomas leads us to a United Press International report of the helicopter crash. It was a UPI report that ran in a newspaper that was far away from the DC area. It doesn't have any photos. If you want to see a photo of Marie McDonald and/or you're interested in more information about her career, check the microfilm of the Evening Star of Washington, DC. Internet doesn't have it.

[@hilarygrant4351]

Yes, the accident happened just a year later. She was only 31 years old.

[@Jmmoffa]

Hilary Grant She only 28, it happened the day before her 29th birthday

[@alanFconrad]

I SOOOOOOO love Candace

[@SrSacaninha]

Holy crap, what a wonderfully beautiful woman Candice is. I hadn't recognized her.

[@rucksackzen]

Marie McDonald and her WWDC pilot were killed on September 1, 1966 when their chopper crashed and burned in Maryland after she had just done the first traffic report for the evening rush hour. She was 28.

[@JRobbySh]

Sad to hear. Her appearance on TV was at least a moment of pride for her folks to remember.

[@soulierinvestments]

Dorothy now is very much at the zenith of her big-haired sophisticated woman of the world period. She looks so good in this episode it almost breaks my heart. Furthermore, when during the mystery guest sequence she mutters "I'm dead," it now seems to have more foreshadowing than anyone at the time realized. Arlene's hair color in this period seems to have been ordered for "Mrs Dally Takes a Lover."

[@savethetpc6406]

soulierinvestments I thought I remembered them referring to the show as "Mrs. Dally Takes a Lover" when they'd talked about Arlene's preparations for it in previous episodes, but they seem to have shortened the name in time for the actual Broadway premier. I noticed this in the introductions of Arlene in the past couple of episodes and wondered if it was just squeamishness on the part of the CBS censors, but take a look at the original Playbill for the show: www.playbillvault.com/Show/Detail/8441/Mrs-Dally. It simply says "Mrs. Dally," just as Steve referred to it in his introduction of Arlene in this episode. The original title of the play by William Hanley actually seems to be "Mrs. Dally *Has* A Lover:" www.amazon.com/Mrs-Dally-Lover-Other-Plays/dp/B0010K6NDC.

[@WhatsMyLine]

SaveThe TPC This has come up before, but don't ask me when or where. Someone had commented about the producers specifically making a point that the full title of the play not be said on air due to squeamishness, but I can't vouch for this being true in any way. There were certainly plenty of uses of the full title initially, so I'd imagine if the producers made it a policy to call it "Mrs. Dally" at some point, it was due to some sort of minor backlash from viewers.

[@soulierinvestments]

It's one of those titles where you feel as if it is being set up for sequels. Mrs. Dally Takes a Vacation. Mrs. Dally Takes out the Garbage. Mrs Dally Takes the A Train.

[@WhatsMyLine]

soulierinvestments How about "Mrs Daly Takes an Upper"? (all about a train trip).

[@scottevans748]

As you noted, very strange and prescient mumbling from Dorothy @ 23:02. She would indeed be 'dead' in less than two months from this airing. Bizarre.

[@dancelli714]

I feel bad that the traffic lady died a year later in a helicopter crash. I thought of our local lady, JANE DOORKNOCKER died the same way. I heard the last panicking words she said as they were about to crash, AWFUL.

[@Magnetron33]

Delightful!

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

When you speak or understand Swedish, this was really entertaining

[@ExperimentIV]

Lars Rye Jeppesen the “nej, jag är svensk!” gets me every time

[@SamuelBoreas]

I don't understand why they didn't recognize Edgar Bergen's voice.

[@givemepizzaorgivemedeath3983]

Dorothy Kilgallen had less than 2 months to live when this show aired.

[@benwass5209]

give me pizza or give me death Marie McDonald died a year later due a helicopter crash

[@washoe4827]

Only the REAL killer would know that... !

[@sunlight4169]

Sadly, Marie McDonald, the beautiful helicopter traffic reporter, passed away doing this line of work reporting traffic/ helicopter crash on 9/1/66 just shy of one year after this. She was only 28 years old.

[@Sbaxter1989]

awww Candice is a baby !

[@philipwebb960]

More of a "babe," I would say.

[@rogerpalacios6131]

Yes Candice Bergen, quite a beauty. I fell in love with her in Carnal Knowledge.

[@nomiddlenamenmn427]

I agree. She is wonderful in The Group. The scene with Larry Hagman is great.

[@nomiddlenamenmn427]

I wonder if WWDC continued to use the slogan of “If you’re in a jam, here I am” after the fiery crash from 100 feet on September 1, 1966.

[@MrThesper]

Were her two siblings traffic reporters, too?

[@nomiddlenamenmn427]

@@MrThesper I don’t think so. Could be wrong, though. Marie was a trailblazer.

[@andypike1234]

Didn´t know Candice was this pretty

[@lalalaland5291]

My good she was stunning

[@kali3665]

When Candice Bergen was asked if she sang, I laughed out loud, considering how Murphy Brown isn't exactly known for her singing. 😂😂

[@thezmanchar]

You know Murphy Brown is a fictional character 😂😂😂

[@kali3665]

@@thezmanchar So?

[@CabinFever52]

I loved that show, but I also loved her in Boston Legal.

[@badumpy]

kind of eerie when Dorothy says this at 23:03...as she was 6 weeks later.

[@lindaeasley4336]

That was creepy

[@xltrt]

Love Candice!

[@HoldenNY22]

The Female Traffic Reporter was Pretty!

[@Veggamattic]

Lawrence doesn't seem like the brightest of bulbs.

[@robotnik77]

I'm related to the ventriloquist's dummy thru' the Berggren line.

[@yakkyjoe1]

So true. Apparently there was sibling rivalry with the dummy. That is pretty screwy when you think of it. Bad enough when your parents pick a favorite child but when you pick a prop over your flesh and blood, that is an insult of the highest order.

[@lisastone4549]

Ha, Ha ! Good joke, R77 ! 😊

[@JudgeJulieLit]

No, Charlie McCarthy was Irish; you're Russian, at best related to Sputnik.

[@1jamyc]

Funny how WML features guests with the oddest of jobs - -from all different income levels, but I'll assume the majority of the occupations offer relatively low incomes. But they make no secret of the host and panel's high income levels and posher lifestyles. They often mention JCD's private school education, and the fact that Bennett & Arlene's sons both went to Harvard. On this show we learned that JCD jets off to the Mayo Clinic for his regular annual physicals, and that Bennett is leaving for a month-long vacation to Europe and the Middle East. Nice work if you can get it :)

[@BrianSquiers]

How sad that Ms. McDonald was killed a year later when the helicopter from which she was broadcasting crashed killing the pilot as well.

[@lanas1149]

They should do this nowdays

[@519djw6]

Now how many people in show business could have answered "Jag är svenska" (I am Swedish) in Swedish? That should have narrowed it down pretty quickly!

[@chuckendweiss4849]

This is the second time I have seen Candice. First one was Groco Marc’s show and her partner was the daughter of Mr Marc. She was much younger. Beautiful then and even now

[@shirleyrombough8173]

Chuck Endweiss - There was a book called The Group, made into a movie starring Candace Bergen, a few decades ago. It was a good movie with a replica of interaction patterns among young professional women. I first heard of the word chthonic from the book. I looked it up but I don't remember what the definition was. My friends and I read the book and we thought we identified with the characters. Candace Bergen played a beautiful lesbian, hard for men who were attracted to her to accept. I'd like to reread the book or watch the movie again.

[@lotusbuds2000]

Wow ..the female panelists were dressed to the hilt and never wore the same dress twice it appears....

[@preppysocks209]

They did repeat on occasion. Some of the nicest ones sometimes. But Dorothy wore that awful Empire dress 3 or 4 times.

[@fionajones8231]

Marie McDonald imdb: The year after this programme on "September 1, 1966, McDonald and Lesco Kaufman, her helicopter pilot, landed at an industrial park in Bladensburg, MD, to pick up a cold drink on a hot day. Upon taking off, the helicopter struck power lines, crashed and burned, killing her and the pilot." She was 29 approx.

[@David.M.]

Very nice

[@gogaijin]

Also Dorothy Kilgallen was murdered in Nov of this same year... So sad!