What's My Line? - June Allyson; Martin Gabel [panel] (May 22, 1960)

MYSTERY GUEST: June Allyson
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Martin Gabel, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf

[@robertkiester8058]

This show has always been and always will be one of the all time greats. I love it and all who were part of it. I thank you as well.

[@ladyyuna2000]

RIP June Allyson (born Eleanor Geisman) (October 7, 1917 - July 8, 2006) (aged 88) you will truly be missed and my prayers go out to you and your family. I enjoy watching her in Little Women (1949) as tomboy Jo March it's my favorite movie to watch with my mom when we are at home alone.

[@kristeenaanderson2168]

Mary luksis is my grandma this was amazing to watch

[@rmelin13231]

That is so cool. It's always interesting to hear from relatives of guests.

[@soulierinvestments]

6:53 > 7:12 Martin and Arlene. Wow. They must have defined "Manhattan sophisticated married couple" in those days. That butter-won't-melt-in-my-mouth look of hers is priceless. "Probably he takes off his hat." LOL I bet.

[@jeffreycrippen]

Thanks again, Martin Gabel eps are my favorite. He and Arlene are very funny together.

[@ladyyuna2000]

My favorite panels too and of course Steve Allen. ^_^

[@iammrmat]

The summit referred to by John Daly was the one between Eisenhower and Nikita Khrushchev. The summit was broken up by the U2 spy plane incident, where an American spy plane was shot down by the Russians and pilot Francis Gary Powers was captured.

[@gailshea2294]

Wish What's My Line was still being broadcast. Used to watch !

[@margaretgrebowiec5585]

Dorothy is class and loads of intellect!

[@legrandeanorey3860]

ADORABLE JUNE ALLYSON !!!!

[@scotnick59]

yes, she was rather that

[@victorvelazquez6547]

I liked her on the "Depends" commercials

[@TheCometHunter]

I loved June Allyson opposite Jimmy Stewart in THE GLENN MILLER STORY.

[@teddytodorova]

I like how Arlene folded her dress, so the heart can be seen

[@caroler01]

It was stolen from her in a mugging in 1968.

[@teddytodorova]

@@caroler01 1988

[@caroler01]

Teddy Todorova Thanks for the correction. Mistyped. I wonder if she replaced it.

[@Deejaay83urj38]

@@caroler01 I noticed she always wore that heart? Was it special to her? Also I saw one once with something in the center

[@marybethmcmahon5937]

2021 the center diamond is there.

[@iamintheburg]

My, Mr. Daly and Mr. Cerf were well and truly smitten by Miss June, weren't they ? So very sweet, how John called her, " Honey " and Bennett gave her a smooch.

[@ToddSF]

iamintheburg -- A lot of celebrity mystery guests will kiss or be kissed by a panelist (or both), typically when it's a panel member they know well or feel close to. June Allyson and her husband Dick Powell were good friends with Bennett and Phyllis Cerf, hence the affectionate kiss Bennett gave June.

[@carol-q9q5g]

I don’t get it. Apparently she had a torrid affair with Dean Martin (or Jerry Lewis, I forget which) and other Hollywood men. She comes off more like little sister material. What was her secret, I wonder. 😆

[@philippapay4352]

iamintheburg - I have never liked endearments much, as I have found most to be either insincere or lazy or an attempt at unearned familiarity. I think Daly is a good moderator during the game, but outside of the actual game playing, I find him repulsive. One of the things about him that is most irritating to me is that I was taught quite strictly that one addresses or calls a person as they are introduced to them. If you are not comfortable with the title or name in the introduction, it is always acceptable to ask how they prefer to be addressed or do they use thus and so as an alias for perhaps a more formal name. Daly consistently calls people by names other than how they have presented themselves. If it is a James, he will call him Jim. It is so obsessive that he will call a Tommy, Tom. He changes the names compulsively. So the honey, not being something that is appropriate in a formal situation and was probably not her nickname, was galling here. It was even worse that he could not let it be that the military contestant was properly addressed as Private. He had to ask if she was married, which is utterly impertinent. But, he then said well let's call you Private Miss before acceding to just using Private as her title. And you certainly never ask someone in a formal or public situation if you can use some cutesy moniker or title for them around folks who may take it up and begin using it quite to the dismay of the individual who has already presented themselves the way they prefer.

[@preppysocks209]

@@carol-q9q5g Dick Powell had affairs too. What is good for the goose....

[@williamlynnroden]

@@carol-q9q5g . Maybe that's the reason Lewis and Martin broke up?!

[@TheCometHunter]

With PFC Luksis...this is the first time I've seen the female guest actually ask John for one of his famous "conferences" ! LOL

[@johnmh1000]

20.58 John Daly - June Allyson. What a wonderful thing to say about this lovely woman. I think that John is secretly in love!

[@1962pjh]

I just have to watch this one because I love June Allyson's voice!

[@soulierinvestments]

Gil Fates, in his book on What's My Line? entitled "What's My Line?" noted that certain animals were always good for a laugh. Fleas, apparently, among them.

[@rtflone]

Fleas at the top of the list for entertainment. The flea circus is a centuries old spoof on the audience since trained fleas don't actually exist..

[@yawlltube]

'Do you do what you do to men?' Dorothy doing an Arlene.

[@contraryMV]

More like a Fred because that had already been established.

[@yawlltube]

'We would have to gaingive you...' John Daly's archaisms.

[@robertmelson2130]

3:49 Bennett Cerf: "Private Luksis. I'm a little confused. Are we s'posed to try to guess what Miss Luksis does in the Armed Forces?" Should we conclude that Bennett Cerf is easily confused?

[@TheCometHunter]

Bennett was having one of his "DERP" moments.

[@MrYfrank14]

I assumed he meant it as opposed to doing something outside of the armed forces. they had a priest once that ran a radio show. it wasn't a religious show. it wasn't connected to the church. so you had to guess his occupation even though he was dressed as, and introduced as, a priest.

[@preppysocks209]

In 1948, no one could have anticipated that 6 actors working on the same film, MGM's "The Three Musketeers," would be future WML MGs and that 2 others would be future WML guest panelists (a few were both). Besides June Allyson, the other future MGs were Van Heflin, Vincent Price, Gene Kelly, Lana Turner, and Angela Lansbury. The future guest panelists were Gig Young and Keenan Wynn.

[@jaengen]

They edited out Dorothy’s question to June: “are you continent?” June responded “Depends”.

[@accomplice55]

Hahahahaha!!!!😄

[@VahanNisanian]

When exactly did Johnny Olson become the new permanent announcer? He is my all-time favorite of all the WML announcers.

[@justjohnney]

1961

[@soulierinvestments]

John Yang Olsen first appeared on WML on that memorable February 1961 episode on which Anthony Perkins and Debbie Reynolds sat on the panel and Dorothy Kilgallen appeared as mystery guest -- available somewhere on You Tube.

[@paulmorin6569]

He had a funny turn as a mystery guest.

[@yawlltube]

'I'm sure if she touches them the situation is well in hand.' Second episode in a row the double entendres get a bit outré. After last week's Dorothy's, is it solid and stiff - to which Bennett goes, 'Now, now, Dorothy.'

[@Merrida100]

Actually he said, "Come, come now Dorothy" I believe.

[@carol-q9q5g]

Ugh, Martins comment was a tad dirty old man, in my opinion.

[@robbob1234]

@@carol-q9q5g As a dirty old man I find your comment ageist and sexist.

[@Confeggi_davis]

@@robbob1234 as a young woman I find your comment disgusting

[@robbob1234]

@@Confeggi_davis I'm disgusted by your disgust!

[@ChrisHansonCanada]

DENTAL TECHNICIAN FOR WEST POINT CADETS RUNS FLEA CIRCUS TROMBONE PLAYER

[@calliopivogiatzis2235]

Miss Mandel might've been Arlene Francis 's, trombone teacher

[@yawlltube]

'Could you in the loosest description of your duties be called a nurse?' Haha, this is delicious.

[@wcwindom56]

no loose nurses in the Army... MASH hadnt come out yet so they didnt know about Hot Lips Hoolihan

[@shirleyrombough8173]

Now how in the world did Bennett know this was June Allyson?

[@peternagy-im4be]

He knew she was in town

[@jennjenn61]

It isn't game related but I'm a bit surprised no one mentioned anything about the earthquake that struck Chile earlier that day. I know it wasn't a local issue but considering it was (and still is) the strongest earthquake ever recorded I figured it would've been on John's radar....assuming this wasn't a taped show that is.

[@stephensaunders1845]

There was no 24/7 breaking news in those days, and because of that (and other factors) people were far less aware of what was going on in the world. I doubt most people would have heard about the quake at this stage - and if they had, its significance would not have registered.

[@kathyyoung1774]

In a short show like this where they were often rushed to squeeze in all the contestants, they wouldn’t use time to comment on world news. Never did in any show.

[@robertungerbuehler9076]

Much younger, but always had a crush on her

[@rmelin13231]

Me too, first from 'The Stratton Story', then 'Strategic Air Command', I was smitten, completely unknown to her. There was just something about her.

[@geoffm9944]

How on earth did Bennet Cerf recognise June Allyson? He knew she was in town! Well if he knew, why didn’t he disqualify himself! He undermined the whole fun of trying to find her identity,

[@igkoigko9950]

Isn’t that like reasoning the Chiefs should’ve disqualified themselves from the 2021 Super Bowl because with Brady as QB they knew the Bucs would be passing? If not the best simile, the point is panelists are supposed to use their knowledge, as well as their deductive logic, to identify guests. Complaining that Bennet is too knowledgeable is like complaining Brady passes too well. Their knowledge and abilities is why they are playing and we are watching

[@gailsirois7175]

He always knows who's in town AND when as do others on the panel..its why they always get them...figure them out that is...

[@gailsirois7175]

They never have to disqualify because its how they do all the C elebrity contestants

[@gailsirois7175]

He's a cheater..there were always lots of folks in town

[@Walterwhiterocks]

@@gailsirois7175 My thoughts exactly. I have long suspected that. If you noticed, the director never shows the panel when the MG is signing in. That would be the perfect time for him to sneak a peek, perhaps in the guise of adjusting his mask or something.

[@MrJoeybabe25]

Why did Goodson-Toddman go from Hal Simms as announcer to Johnny Olsen?

[@TheCometHunter]

Simms got a better job offer elsewhere in the broadcasting business.

[@broughtbackin]

Cerf and his wife cheated so many times. She would find out who the MG was and tell him. Nobody notices how many times he gets it when nobody else even comes close?

[@eolhcytoos]

The Danes were not on the side of America, nor Great Britain. They declared themselves neutral and were invaded, becoming a protectorate.

[@jesperskov8032]

It's not clear exactly what he means. It's possible that he is thinking of what happened in October 1943.

[@geraldkatz7986]

The US was neutral too before it was attacked. The War was happening for two years before the US got involved. I also doubt the Danes were absolutely thrilled with being a protectorate.

[@rangerboy7877]

bennett knows everybody

[@RonGerstein-tf5tp]

He does not know me.

[@RayhanAhmed-qr3vz]

She’s a helicopter pilot Got it wrong she a dental tech

[@rr7firefly]

Bennett has a sixth sense about so many of the Mystery Challengers. It's uncanny.

[@scottpardee6303]

He has met many celebrities and he studies who is in town at the time of each show.

[@broughtbackin]

Because his nosy wife always found out who the MG was and would tell him. Lol

[@debbigray1752]

June Allyson...she had just been the Mystery Guest 9 months ago. I'm thinking she must have been a replacement. Much as I like her, this is unusually close to her recent appearance. 😮

[@RonGerstein-tf5tp]

What were these two dates?

[@unclejack123]

how come the young PFC had no insignia of service affiliation on her uniform?

[@RonGerstein-tf5tp]

The President ordered her not to display it.

[@jackseward7779]

A first lesson for the cadets in the lure of fraternization, i.e., she was beautiful but enlisted. Wrong answer re being considered a nurse-they have received commissions for a long time as professionals. Since Mr. Daly often boasted about having been a Lt.J.G., dumb comment about saluting a PFC.

[@nyhank1814]

I adore Arlene, but she totally cheats. Like when she was about to get a "no" on dentist, she quickly added on "assistant" to keep going.

[@contraryMV]

Isn't that part of what makes her so endearing?

[@TheCometHunter]

She may have gotten a signal from John or the show's floor director to try and extend the segment because it was ending faster than predicted.

[@carol-q9q5g]

Dorothy does that as well.

[@gailsirois7175]

Dorothy does it too, as does cheater boy cerf

[@Dios67]

Bennett should have disqualified himself.

[@Dios67]

@Dave Givens I had to re-watch the video to see how far they got. I still think, to make the game last longer and more fun, that someone who knows who it is quickly should either disqualify or pass and let the others play. They have done it before. But, it almost seemed like a competition sometimes as I knew there were some issues between Dorothy and Bennett/Arlene from Bennett's taped interview post WML.

[@peternagy-im4be]

Cerf is all knowing.

[@ChrisHansonCanada]

His huge ego wouldn't let him. He wanted the attention for guessing correctly.

[@Dios67]

@@ChrisHansonCanada Yes, they were all competitive but some were friendlier about it than others.

[@BrokenneckYgor]

June was sad because no cash was stipulated for her pet cause: disabled or crippled tailed monkeys

[@kentetalman9008]

Typical city boy who doesn't understand that insects are animals.

[@sillyone52062]

Smoking is dreadfully unhealthy, but does wonders for a voice.

[@igkoigko9950]

Especially after the cancer caused laryngectomy

[@MacAnderville]

Well, there you have it. Asking "Is it Miss or Mrs?" was to see if female contestants were married or available, not solely for the purpose of how to address her. There was no reason to ask Pvt. Luksis if she was Miss or Mrs, especially after she had just indicated how she was to be adressed.

[@geoffm9944]

Was Bennett Cerf tipped off? Too often he identifies the celebrity guest without the other guests getting a look in.

[@broughtbackin]

Yup. His nosy wife would always find out who the MG was and tell him. (This was admitted in a book many years later by a WML staffer)

[@Mmdmade]

Oh my. The tension between Arlene and Martin is way too palpable here. Very uncomfortable. They truly barely tolerated each other. Don’t let the heart necklace fool you

[@broughtbackin]

What in the world are you smoking? They ADORED each other. They were madly in love. Please don't quit your day job because you are definitely NOT someone who can read people. LOL

[@broughtbackin]

Your husband probably left you for a beautiful woman like Arlene, huh?

[@stevee2576]

The misogyny in those days on national TV is incredible to believe if I didn't see it my self. All of these old game shows, treated women like freaking objects, and it's totally acceptable... Now I get the you too movement a little better.

[@armyvet4081]

francis could not and would not shut her mouth

[@anneroy4560]

looks like Dorothy has had botox on her lips & does she have a hair piece on?

[@carol-q9q5g]

Anne Roy Her hairdresser says she did wear a hair piece.

[@kathyyoung1774]

This was waaay before botox

[@taraxacum]

It looks like more lipstick than usual, extending beyond the normal size of her lips. I think that is also Arlene's usual use of lipstick.

[@shirleyrombough8173]

Anne Roy - I don't think they used botox in those days but the possibility of a hairpiece is a whole different story. Maybe.

[@sandrageorge3488]

I can't remember where I saw it, but it was in a comments of another WML show, that Dorothy would wear a extra hair piece and draw the line of her lips larger.

[@peternagy-im4be]

The army dental nurse you can hardly hear her voice. She is highly irritating.

[@kristeenaanderson2168]

She was soft spoken She was a west point cadet and 1st beauty queen of the army. Show respect