WHAT'S REALLY WRONG WITH KAWHI LEONARD? *HEATED DEBATE* ft.

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[@Dc225_]

Ticket helps me understand why some real-life basketball arguments end in violence

[@UnderGroundSkoopTV]

🤣🤣🤣

[@roybradley853]

🤣🤣🤣

[@battousaithekingslayer9913]

Lmfaooo 😭

[@torreanwhite8025]

Saying kawhi is load managing during the playoffs is a terrible take , wby can’t we just except that his body is breaking down ??

[@yourenotthatguy1728]

Because they’re casuals, and thinking if you play more you won’t get hurt

[@brycetheoddball]

The timing of this is sick

[@nathanakomeah9331]

The dude tore his meniscus and this is the dialogue 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@iBEEnHEREtoo]

Ticket: [says something outlandish] Other Person: Well I... Ticket: NoNoNoNoNoNo

[@Fayn757]

Ticket is wrong 95% of the time

[@Sparks2520]

Not true

[@jesusblanco7657]

He’s still my goat

[@NajeeTheChosenOne]

@@jesusblanco7657he’s a terrible goat 🤣

[@jesusblanco7657]

@@NajeeTheChosenOne still my goat

[@NajeeTheChosenOne]

@@jesusblanco7657 I don’t blame u :3

[@averyb.476]

Great point by Marz to Chill. If Kawhi is super limited, lets limit his time on the court because he will only has so many mins to give to due that knee

[@PanthurAlexander]

That feel when you all look like dubasses because he tore his meniscus

[@badgerstorm2188]

Yeah this is very dated lmao

[@dariuswilliams7509]

Chill mentions a lot how Kawhi knees are bad y'all don't be listening to old head😂😂

[@qupope6955]

​@Darius Williams we all know this that's why😭

[@corey4079]

ticket hilarious 😂saying they gawk gawking for Ka-lie is crazy 💀

[@MarkLaw13]

Kawhi is NOT in shape and he's doing it for Instagram. How moronic is Ticket TV

[@Facts-only69]

Kawhi tore his meniscus; Tickets a certified clown hopping on a new players nuts each year

[@camctrail]

How did this video get released after the news came out? Y'all should take this down

[@eugenestaniel]

Turns out he had a torn meniscus what do you expect him to do then lol he probably aggravated more in game 2

[@roddygarland7633]

Ticket not in shape lol

[@rapgodreloaded9259]

@Roddy Garland he looks chunky lol

[@alieucamara8525]

Oven at 400 degrees is crazy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Regular.com2]

Does a torn meniscus mean he’s out for virtually the next whole season also did he play game 2 with a torn meniscus?

[@seankelly3121]

A meniscus can heal in a few months

[@victordiaz1538]

it takes 3-6 months to recover from if he gets surgery, without surgery it’ll be a month but with constant treatment

[@rapgodreloaded9259]

Torn meniscus doesn't mean any player is out for the whole season.

[@Regular.com2]

@@rapgodreloaded9259 I didn’t know my bad I’m confusing it with MCL

[@rapgodreloaded9259]

@@Regular.com2 MCL and ACL will likely hinder any athlete for playing the whole season.

[@xkid.darkskin5178]

there’s no way he played with a torn meniscus dude needs to retire or the clippers need to trade him he can’t stay healthy

[@ceejaymane93]

Ticket was talking like Stone Cold lol

[@kamikazikid127]

Kawhi got a torn meniscus

[@TTJJCC]

Why does Ticket always sound like he's cutting a wrestling promo?? 😂😂😂

[@U.T.P.]

Entertainment

[@Regular.com2]

It’s weird because when he hurt his knee last year we mysteriously never see the play it happened and there’s never any later insight on what play it could’ve been like it’s very concerning but sad

[@Skywalka113]

We all seen the play wdym? The same thing happened this time with Torrey Craig I’m pretty positive

[@Skywalka113]

Look up Joe ingles injuring kawhi that same drive n little bump action the same thing happened against the suns but kawhi prolly should be a 6th man if he keeps getting hurt like this

[@thehitman47]

Ticket be making no sense

[@michaelhaynes5434]

Janet jackass had me dying 😂

[@endah08]

Do marathon runners run multiple marathons in the run-up to it? No

[@dp2120]

They do actually lol they run way more miles than a marathon leading up to it, then taper off a bit in the week before. The world's best marathoner - Eliud Kichoge - ran 113 miles (more than 4x a marathon) in the week before the Berlin Marathon.

[@endah08]

@@dp2120 News to me. In a week they might run significantly more than a marathon in the course of a week. But generally speaking they're not running full marathons regularly in the runup to competition.

[@dp2120]

@@endah08 They run a consecutive 20 miles at least once a week during the heart of their training and then start to taper back with 2-3 weeks of the marathon itself. So like longest run 3 weeks out would decrease from 20 to 15 for example.

[@endah08]

@@dp2120 Yeah so what I said is true

[@TheKidwonda]

This is going to sound crazy but I want y’all to hear me out. If Kawhi is going to breakdown come postseason time anyway I’d rather ride him all season to get me the best record possible to set me up for a easier postseason journey that we will unfortunately almost inevitably go through without him. I think a healthy PG and Russ can make a run if they’re seeing the 7th/8th seeds in the 1st round and so on and so forth

[@evan823ce]

Not in the west

[@Watchingvideoslikeu]

Facts! It makes more sense to get the most of Kawhi to get a better seeding then when he breaks down mid season. Your team is never operating under the myth that Kawhi will come back. Your whole knows ok boom Kawhi gave us a 40 game boost now we can ride out from here.

[@mightymallardz768]

Ride him all season is Insane bro. Major pause on that

[@Nca021]

He’s load managing in the playoffs?? These are freak injuries shi he can’t even control. If he doesn’t load manage in the reg szn he doesn’t even make it to the playoffs

[@TOKYO9AIN]

They sit In there rooms and think up scenarios and come on here preaching them like they real

[@chadofryyy6568]

ticket literally just makes noise

[@KMM5821]

3:07 😅

[@Watchingvideoslikeu]

The Clippers biggest issue isn’t that Kawhi always gets hurt or load manages it’s that he does both while on a super max contract so he takes up a large chunk of cap space and he is physically unreliable. It’s a pointless roster spot.

[@thriftedclubsgolf]

Ticket sound so different

[@Gfhmike]

Load management isn’t a guarantee but it works for some people. It’s really that simple.

[@jonathanvelasquez4317]

10:06 Mars asking if he was in shape going into the playoffssss. You cant be in playoff shape if you haven't played in the season. Game shape isn't the same as being in shape to go work out, there completely different. The body needs to time to adapt to the unpredictable situations that happens in a game hence why they have a preseason and why load management isn't always the best option for players. I believe its working against players because there being thrown into games after sitting and not practicing at full speed and then required to play at a high tempo which they haven't adapted to because they have been sitting too long. Kawhi is a great talent but he cant use a whole season by sitting most of it out to play in the playoffs. When the competition is really in top tier mode and all engines are rolling. We will see him do his thing but it wont be consistent. Unfortunately now he has another torn meniscus which i am pretty sure happen from movements he hasn't done in a while on knees that haven't been given the tolerance to do that.

[@MarzTalksSports]

he played 50+ games lol so is kd not in shape? AD? Steph?

[@jonathanvelasquez4317]

@@MarzTalksSports he’s missed 161 games in the past three years. Plus 13 playoff games. You think Kd, Ad, and Steph has had that munch time away from real game play ?

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@jonathanvelasquez4317 oh so its over 3 years got it,hes out of shape cos he missed all of last season,kd in 2021 was also out of shape right

[@jonathanvelasquez4317]

@@MarzTalksSports 20-21 Kd played 35 games, 21-22 KD play 55 games, 22-23 played 47 games. Both have had serious and close to career changing injuries, yeah he played but was he able to go carry the Nets that year? He played an avg 44 mins in the series, but was only good for an avg of 26pts his second lowest since okc. No help understood but when Tatum (76 games that season played) was hounding him he couldnt find a way to get over that. Its a different preparation is all I am saying as well as building another gear into your game like lebron, Mj, Kobe. Something not many have been able to do.

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@jonathanvelasquez4317 none of that has anything to do with being out of basketball shape,also i asked if kd was out of shape in 2021 thats it

[@MarkLaw13]

No player plays 82 games unless you're a role player. LeBron only played 82 once in his career. You people are capping left and right. Where's this same energy for Durant. Players get hurt and be out just as much if not more than Kawhi. Durant's last 4 years: (19-20) Out with Achilles (20-21) 35/82 (21-22) 55/82 (22-23) 47/82 Kawhi Last 4 Years: (19-20) 57/82 (20-21) 52/82 (21-22) Out with ACL (22-23) 52/82

[@qupope6955]

Because apparently Kevin Durant has love for the game but Kawhi doesn't🤦‍♂️😭 I don't know how they know that😭😭

[@rapgodreloaded9259]

You meant no star player plays 82 unless they're role players.

[@shazazy4137]

Tbf MJ played 82 games in 9 out of 15 seasons of his career and he is not a role player. His durability is insane.

[@officialroseworld1997]

@@shazazy4137 different eras

[@romemakes794]

Y’all on AD everyday but have all this sympathy for Kawhi stop it. Call that man street clothes and fragile more, keep the same energy.

[@Begreatjoe]

i agree with both marz and ticket you can’t play kawhi 82 games because he’s going to break down for sure but at the same time he just can’t sit around missing 30 plus games cause your body doesn’t know how to play through it. ma he should play is 65-75 games per year

[@TheLncredibleJ]

Bruh 10 seconds in and this dude capping lol. Talkin bout nobody expect Kawhi to get hurt, thats what he known for lmaooo

[@Cashkii]

Yea womo

[@joshuafruth6420]

Mars is straight up wrong, you gotta play to have your body ready for playing. The more you don't the more you're at risk when you go extended time in spurts. Load managing is bs. With kawhi as injury prone as he is at this point, and coupled with another injury prone guy in pg, it's a waste of money and roster space for the clips to have him.

[@CharlieXFBA]

There's a difference between having a degenerative knee issue and suffering a soft tissue injury because your body isn't conditioned enough. LMAO. Goodness gracious, don't drop out of school.

[@MarzTalksSports]

ur comparing people who do not have degenerative knees to someone who does,he literally CANNOT play,he clearly got into basketball shape over the course of the season,his knees gave out

[@CharlieXFBA]

@@MarzTalksSports Thank you lol

[@yourenotthatguy1728]

You’re a casual bro just sit down and be quiet. You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about

[@PRODbyKingDavis]

Yea mars didnt play high level ball kawhi wasnt in basketball shape at all lol… bruh looked like a linebacker 😂😂😂

[@xkid.darkskin5178]

ticket speaking facts

[@Kbrwsg]

mars got cooked

[@curtis6284]

Mars makes my stomach hurt he needs to shut up

[@MarzTalksSports]

You shut up

[@Fayn757]

Facts

[@KillingInstinct]

Mars making horrible analogies…

[@MarzTalksSports]

saying somethings inevitable so theres no point tryna delay it is like saying were all gonna die so i might aswell put myself in harms way as much as possible

[@KillingInstinct]

@@MarzTalksSports Ah ok thanks for explaining it💯

[@Kai-Soh]

@@MarzTalksSports would you agree that we still take some degree of risking death anyway in our daily lives even if we know there's danger in the world? You can accept the risk of death and simply live your life despite the inevitability of death. What you're saying isn't wrong per se but neither is Chill with regards to how it should be looked at from a Clippers perspective. Load management isn't fool proof in Kawhi's case specifically. Ticket is just terrible at making this point. What really skews the conversation is the fact that he's being used as the face of load management as if he's the only player who uses it. There's plenty enough examples to justify and legitimate its use.

[@Gfhmike]

I’m almost sure Kawhi won’t ever finish a season. Who’s was surprised he didnt finish yet another season? 😂