Thank you so much for having me! It's always such a pleasure to get a chance to talk to you. Hopefully we'll be dropping in Fortnite soon. 💖
@GodzillaMendoza8 ай бұрын
Thanks again for having me on, Chris! It was great talking to you guys, we should do it again sometime!
@ComicTropes8 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed it, too. Thank you so much for your time and your insights.
@ericfusco82358 ай бұрын
I am now a new subscriber to your channel because of this episode. Looking forward to watching about cartoon Spider-Man.
@ericfusco82358 ай бұрын
@@ComicTropes Chris I’m going to pre apologize because if I ever meet you I’m going to scream COMIC TROPES
@Draliseth8 ай бұрын
Super cool seein both of ya on the same thumbnail.
@jordanromesburg68198 ай бұрын
Thanks for shouting out Irredeemable Xavier! It's honestly a good entry into the "evil Superman" genre without being as downtrodden as The Boys.
@mr.doctorcaptain11248 ай бұрын
I honestly didn’t find the boys “downtrodden”, I found it horribly immature. Everything Garth Ennis writes seems like it was written by a 14 year old whose entire personality is defined by his ardent atheism.
@turtleanton65398 ай бұрын
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124snd super heroes suxx and he literally writes em for all living
@markpage98868 ай бұрын
His punisher run was pretty good. He does war stories very well, and seems to really respect soldiers. I completely agree with everything you wrote nonetheless.
@Saboteur48 ай бұрын
@@markpage9886yeah if you read the Boys you can clearly tell he hates superheroes because they're untrained and take away from real heroes (soldiers)
@williamcobb29728 ай бұрын
I’d like to note that Steven Yeun has actually been VA pretty consistently since 2016-Present, being in 200+ episodes as a lead roles across various shows like Voltron, Trolls (plus it’s spin-offs) Final Space and Tuca & Bertie.
@BlueB33dle8 ай бұрын
He was also Mako in Legend of Korra!
@der222b8 ай бұрын
@@BlueB33dlehe was Avatar Wan. Mako was played by Bud Bundy from Married with Children
@classica1fungus8 ай бұрын
Yeah i don't think he is having any trouble "keeping up"
@KingKrab8 ай бұрын
I really appreciate you acknowledging your potential bias going in as having tangentially worked on the title. Shows respect for your audience and awarness of yourself. Great video!
@residentgrigo47018 ай бұрын
Kirkman´s Fire Power is like Invincible and it´s Shounen manga references are more obvious than Invincible where it can be summed up as references to the fascist Saiyan society and how they grow stronger after near death. Invincible is a weird book as it is as emotionally draining and dark as it gets but the comic also plays topes straight while deconstructing them on the side so you rarely focus on the dour elements. The hyper-stylized art and the bright colors also help.
@rosecity_chris8 ай бұрын
Definitely hoping yall have many more of these discussions! Most people in my life wont give it a chance because its animated, so its nice to have a place to discuss all its themes and messages.
@shawnwilcowski8 ай бұрын
Drake buying for others is PEAK! That’s so awesome and cool of him
@ianstratton8 ай бұрын
Wow! ComicTropes, ComicDrake, and GodzillaMendoza all together! This is like The Avengers of comic books...........wait...
@DavidH18 ай бұрын
I really loved the series and am enjoying the show. I wish Kirkman would have given it 48 more issues. He left so many great ideas on the table in that last issue.
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero8 ай бұрын
A single main storyline with a proper beginning, middle and end. It has a plan for its characters and sticks to them, no BS retcons or reboots, deaths are important and have consequences, characters are allowed to change and grow. Its a conventially well written super hero comic that avoids nearly all the pitfalls DC and Marvel made for themselves
@rubensalvador94228 ай бұрын
Don't normally watch roundtable talks, but this was awesome. Loved your guests and the smooth conversation you guys have. Will look into their channels as well. Hope you get to upload onto your channel the off-topic section that was cut out. I am curious about the tangent conversation you went to. :)
@pious838 ай бұрын
_"Berserk is way too dark"_ As a recommendation in a similar vein to Invincible, absolutely. Puck and Isidro are the only parts that are close to "light hearted".
@johnm.withersiv43528 ай бұрын
Astounding Wolf-Man had the bloody but not dark tone too. Wolf-Man was my favorite Kirkman project.
@PsychoMagnet8 ай бұрын
I've known about the series since around 2018 because of its popularity and finally gave it a read. It's one of the best comics I've ever read, and Mark is one of my top 5 superheroes of all time now. I love the irony of how Nolan's fake story of the Viltrumites that he told Mark as a kid became a reality at the end of the series.
@FranklyPeetoons8 ай бұрын
A comprehensive overview of the best, most consistent and cohesive funnybook series I've read so far. You pointed out many of my favorite things about the title. I got the whole collection and read all 1500 pages of it last year after the Amazon show's first season teased me with its microscopic portion of the story. I only read comics on the terlet, so INVINCIBLE was the definitive butt-numbing experience.
@sergioruiz7338 ай бұрын
This was really great! I really enjoyed the discussions.
@ginofrancejr5558 ай бұрын
Invincible is one of my all time favorite comics the characters the story the tone all of it excellent this and the walking dead made me a kirkman fan excellent discussion guys
@mudbutt2348 ай бұрын
Dr Seismic in an analogue for Mole Man
@LowellLucasJr.8 ай бұрын
While im not a fan of Comic Drake,😢 I do thank him for getting me into Invincible years ago. Im always here for a passionate Discussion. Glad to see this lengthy topic covered with everyone and main man Godzillamandoza! Great video gentlemen!
@BlamoStramo8 ай бұрын
why not a fan? drake is so nice!
@dolier28028 ай бұрын
@@BlamoStramoDrake's videos are definetely good and he seems like a decent fella, I kinda feel like he hypes up the quality of his own videos too much
@annoyinprophet22298 ай бұрын
the sexual assault part was kinda messed up and the perpetraitor did get off easy but what I really liked about that part of the story was the aftermath of that. Mark and his son (the product of this assault) talking about both of their feelings regarding their relationship to one another felt sad, complicated, sincere and somewhat sweet.
@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial36778 ай бұрын
Wouldn't call getting mauled to death "getting off easy"
@PIayer_018 ай бұрын
Every Viltrumite did way worse than sexual assault by being a soldier in the Space Nazis
@ginofrancejr5558 ай бұрын
I hope they show the assault in the animated series and the PTSD Mark suffers and I would have atom eve confront Anisa
@Vivi23728 ай бұрын
@@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677I mean there is that, and as readers we know that thematically that's a consequence because she has to pay for what she did in some way, but within the narrative there's no real consequences for her that are a direct result of her doing it. There's never a point where it's like "you did this terrible thing, and this is how you're going to be brought to justice." There's just the sort of meta level of character did bad thing so character dies horribly later but what she did and the death aren't actually connected.
@thomascheckie23948 ай бұрын
@@Vivi2372that's because it's a good story, and good stories don't always give us everything we want.
@BattleDamageProps8 ай бұрын
The rapist was Anissa, she didn't face consequences for what she did, but having that child and living in earth did change her outlook genuinely reformed her. She ended up dying protecting Eve.
@gibletgibby15678 ай бұрын
great episode yall. Tropes and zilla are sum of my fav youtubers and ive dabbled in drakes stuff. Keep killing it. Loved listening❤
@sheldonlarmond62178 ай бұрын
I would easily listen to a group like this as a podcast, yalls bouncing off each other is fun😊
@kweassa62048 ай бұрын
woooooooo Comic Tropes and Comic Drake collab??!! Now this is a treat!!
@ComicDrake8 ай бұрын
Stay tuned! We should have another one soon. 😉
@shirleydowning93838 ай бұрын
I LOVED the brainstorming in this episode. ❤️❤️❤️
@stevecontreras4178 ай бұрын
Wow. I’ve just been bingeing on GodzillaMendoza and now he’s here! Must see TV!
@atreyuflames8 ай бұрын
two of my favorite comic youtubers in one video.
@boop77258 ай бұрын
Regarding the SA discussion: I'm strongly against cutting it out. It's already such a rare thing to see in popular media and I feel like cutting it out is simply shying away from it out of fear of backlash or even fear of messing it up again. Like Chris said, and even Robert Kirkman himself, this adaptation allows improvement upon the original source now that everything is on the table and we know where everything goes. I think they should do their research, talk to victims and gain a deeper understanding of the issue and execute it better than the comic did. And this wouldn't just be for the sake of making a better story, but also because it's such an important topic and they have the potential to spark a greater discussion on the topic that still, to this day, has a gross culture sorrounding it. From people denying its existence, to people saying they're "jealous" it didn't happen to them and all that nonsense. I would be immensely disappointed if they cut it.
@CapitandodleR8 ай бұрын
As someone who really enjoyed season 1, and is thinking on starting the comic, I really enjoyed this Roundtable discussion, honestly it was very interesting to see each perspective every one of the members had.
@jamesstewart85008 ай бұрын
I highly recommend giving the comic a go
@CapitandodleR8 ай бұрын
@@jamesstewart8500 I will!
@jasonsw0rld8 ай бұрын
Amazing work from all you guys
@Myterriblelovelife8 ай бұрын
This is a great group here to chat about an amazing story!
@majestyzx90818 ай бұрын
Conquest is one of my favorite villains in anything.
@Comicbroe4058 ай бұрын
Invincible is easily my favorite comic story! So glad to see this discussion between my favourite comic channels.
@maxrebo24668 ай бұрын
A collaboration between my favorite comic youtubers
@Tyler_W4 ай бұрын
Invincible is one of my favorite comics and superheroes. The fact that he's getting more mainstream recognition is famtastic.
@johnm.withersiv43528 ай бұрын
I agree that actions and stories having consequences made Invincible great. I think Kirkman learned that from Erik Larsen---although Savage Dragon used universe jumping resets to subvert that at times. I like when Bulletproof became Invincible in the book. The size of the cast was huge that Invincible felt like a real world and not just a city in need of protection.
@CinemaniacComicsCorner8 ай бұрын
Always fun to see favorite comic book youtubers do collabs! Also nice to see talk abiut Invincible. I watched the first season of Invincible right before the second one began and I’m now caught up. I think I might have to check out the comics as well
@alexmanrique22807 ай бұрын
I love the "we had so much fun we forgot we where recording" card
@crono928 ай бұрын
This was a great and different episode. Love this kind of content for spicing up the channel. The recommendation of Radiant Black was on point.
@TevyaSmolka8 ай бұрын
I love invincible it’s such a awesome series and tons of fun in my opinion.
@pious838 ай бұрын
As much as I like Invincible and Walking Dead (comics). I still hold Kirkman's Ultimate X-Men run against him.
@TevyaSmolka8 ай бұрын
@@pious83 i can understand that but honestly i don't blame Kirkman for his ultimate X-Men run mostly because i think his run was sabotage by marvel comics from the very beginning.
@pious838 ай бұрын
@@TevyaSmolka Regardless of blame. The worst part about it, that makes it the most memorable. It was the last run before Ultimatum. That left it with almost as much notoriety as that event itself.
@TevyaSmolka8 ай бұрын
@@pious83 that's true and you're right about that.
@tfrye12278 ай бұрын
These 3 talking about Invincible…this is my Avengers. Why aren’t they advertised in the thumbnail?? i would’ve clicked way sooner (their names get cut off the title on mobile)
@dareelcabbagelord13328 ай бұрын
I just bought the first compendium because I love the show and i can't wait to start reading it
@sangera8 ай бұрын
Thanks, Chris, for the reminder of how old I am (as old as Invincible). I can now rot in my shallow grave for the rest of eternity!
@johnm.withersiv43528 ай бұрын
This is a good episode, but "my dad talked about this when I was wee lad" hit hard. I remember when Invincible was new.
@georgestreet58587 ай бұрын
We NEED more of this with you 3, please make this a weekly /monthly podcast I beg
@laughslapproductions46908 ай бұрын
*Omni Man DID react negatively to the Anissa thing. He grabbed her by the neck and almost slammed her through a spaceship. Mark held him back and told him to stop.*
@de50968 ай бұрын
Much appreciation for your a content!!!
@eddiejoewalt77468 ай бұрын
one episode i would like to see is ONE on Dan Brereton
@WestCoastDAVEngers8 ай бұрын
Great video gents! I think Invinicble is the best superhero book this century hands down. The show is keeping the spirit and the changes that they made all seem to work for me. I really don't know what I can recommend that would stand up to it, honestly. I would love to see another discussion about the book, either way thank you for this video!!
@giovanniduron34818 ай бұрын
Hey! I love comic drake and Xavier, this was great watch!
@IAmPovidone8 ай бұрын
I have zero interest in the live action adaptation which is apparently in the works. The cartoon is so good and should take precedence as the definitive adaptation without having to be 'legitimised' as a live action piece.
@lunarmodule64198 ай бұрын
Collab are fun. Thx
@TheComicQuest6168 ай бұрын
Steven Yeun and JK Simmons had done tons of VO work prior to Invincible, Yeun as a lead in Voltron and the Trollhunters series and JK in Legend of Korra, Gravity Falls and tons more.
@crithon8 ай бұрын
mmmmm, I'm not sure the whole argument, "but it's a cartoon." A BIG factor why the marvel films worked, they got storyboard artists from Avatar the Last Airbender working on the first Avengers film. And also Steven Yeun did Voltron which was also handled by the Avatar crew, who also worked on Spider-Verse. Actually they tried to push a motion comic around 2009ish. Always thought it was an interesting idea. Fun video
@davidalicea32038 ай бұрын
I loved your John Byrne episode! Byrne has his 15 minutes of fame for sure, but I agree with you, he had moments that were stellar! His best work was Terry Austin inked him, and early F.F. run, man he made She - Hulk sexy bro!!!
@theartistknownaszack92348 ай бұрын
This story is amazing I'm on issue 8 rn and it's just WOW 🤯
@Jbook4648 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work my friend!
@HeyItsLito8 ай бұрын
A crossover I NEVER thought I'd see!
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus82998 ай бұрын
I've always thought it was funny how I got the first few preview issues of Invincible for free at a comicon read them put it aside and like 20 years later I am buying the giant compendiums and thinking this comic seems familiar and than I remembered...LOL :P
@lunarmodule64198 ай бұрын
A "spoiler alert" would have been nice ;-)
@jacksonbrickmedia9398 ай бұрын
Literally the only story arc I would say I dislike more than I like is the reboot arc because there are so many needless time skips in this book. Literally everything else about this book I would call near perfect. That ottley art is my favorite part it just gets better and better. With the John Rauch colorist, the ottley art is some of my favorite comic art of all time.
@bobhoskins-kl6ue7 ай бұрын
54:38 I think this is actually a great idea, Nolan confronts her, she leaves in shambles and flies back to Earth and we are introduced to her Earth partner. She breaks down in his arms and there is some dialog where she admits what she did and who her other son's father is. The audience could see that she now understands what she did, how wrong it was and now she's repentant. Much better than her saying sorry during a fight.
@PowerPilgrim8 ай бұрын
Good discussion. It would be great if you could do the entire series but that would be quite the undertaking.
@artistfkared8 ай бұрын
I'd love more of these, y'all have great chemistry.
@StreetPreacherr8 ай бұрын
It also made it much 'easier' to kill off characters since the book actually planned to have an ENDING. It's harder to permanently kill off major characters in comics intended to basically go on 'forever' like Spider-Man etc.
@turtleanton65398 ай бұрын
Indeed 😊
@erwingu8 ай бұрын
I've only read the first compendium and already it's one of my favourite superhero comic
@yurigoncalves98618 ай бұрын
Here from Brazil
@KnowYourMarvelNews8 ай бұрын
Incredible video with a lot to discuss…but on the Spider-Man of it all, I think it is only a matter of time before we get an inter-company crossover outside of the comic medium, and it does feel right for Spider-Man to be the one to cross that barrier. It won’t be shocking if it doesn’t happen, but it feels like the stars may have aligned for it to becomes a reality
@terryf32828 ай бұрын
If Kirkman likes DS9 i hope he gets Avery Brooks to do a voice.
@johnm.withersiv43528 ай бұрын
59:18 similar tone comic: MC2's Spider-Girl, A-Next, and Fantastic Five universe. It was self-contained enough to appreciate by itself.
@simpson10118 ай бұрын
loved this type of video
@morganhanam95228 ай бұрын
2 things: 1. I have not read many of these, but all of the animated series; which is too violent by far - the intestinal gore takes away from the good character creation. 2. Battlebeast looks more like a Kzinti than a Klingon to be honest - as per the original animated ST series; "borrowed" from the Ringworld series, by its original author, LARRY NIVEN for ST.
@nont184118 ай бұрын
Hot takes: Omni Man got off way easier than Anissa and I hate how Eve in the ending of the story is simply Amber in the show.
@Super.average8 ай бұрын
I think Omni Man actually had to go through an arc to get to the point of redemption while Anissa gets to skip to the end
@akumakilla48 ай бұрын
Although I'm a huge fan of Baki and have watched both the original OVA and anime' before the Netflix adaptation/sequels, and read the entire series up to the latest arc in Bakidou (excluding all the spin-off series), I have to say that a better recommendation is a manga series not that many people even know about called "Koukou Tekkenden Tough". A little difficult to find but highly worth it. It does have an anime OVA adaptation called "Shootfighter Tekken" which is great and dubbed. It's very similar to Baki however I'd personally say the series leans ever so slightly more into realism. The story is about a high schooler named Kiibo who dreams of becoming the next Bruce Lee while being trained by his father in the family's secret martial art of "Nadashinkage-ryu" until an encounter one night with a professional wrestler turns the wrestling world against him and threatens him that if he should ever lose he must reveal to the worst the secrets of the ancient martial art. The plot does go into more detail about Kiibo's father and why exactly although Kiibo wants to be Bruce Lee, his own abilities may actually greatly surpass that of his idol's. A lot of the wrestling world within the manga actually offers loads of respect for what wrestlers often go through it's honestly amazing. If I had to describe it in simpler words, the series really makes you feel what it truly means to be "tough".
@leroymarshall-em4ph8 ай бұрын
The show is the best super hero series of all time. It's brilliant no arguments.
@johnm.withersiv43528 ай бұрын
I'd like to see the same animation group work on a new Savage Dragon cartoon. The crossovers seem important in both comic book series.
@99jmaster8 ай бұрын
1:09:16 even worse than that I have notifications turned on and a lot of the time I still won't get them and sometimes KZbin will auto turn that setting off like when people had a problem with being unsubbed without manually doing it themselves years ago
@OM19_MO798 ай бұрын
What’s so great about Evil Gory Superman, I mean, Invincible? One word: blood. Lots of it.
@jackyanoshik85538 ай бұрын
Would love to see more of this format or even a podcast 👀
@MrAaaaazzzzz000099998 ай бұрын
Tech jacket will probably be in the show, because they showed the geldarian emperor in episode 3 i think. Brit probably wont be there though.
@dolier28028 ай бұрын
If Brit doesn't appear I'll be so upset, ik technically he's his own character but I've always viewed him as an Invincible character at heart
@artfire288 ай бұрын
Will you guys do a review of Attack on Titan and the author someday?
@blytheguy75108 ай бұрын
I'd love to see Ron Perlman voice Conquest and Josh Brolin as Thragg.
@TheWhoshoyu8 ай бұрын
I'll have go come back to this. I have to watch season2 first
@SamirRSharma8 ай бұрын
I just finished reading the comic like 7 hours ago
@davidalicea32038 ай бұрын
INvincible is fire!!!!!
@owensreviews6258 ай бұрын
A video talking about the greatest superhero comic in the universe BY some of the best comic-tubers ever? Yes please!
@felipooooo58 ай бұрын
I gave this the no-look like. Sure to be a great video that I'll watch later :)
@Gio-Rider8 ай бұрын
Invincible is definitely my top #01 comic, loved the discussion and I'm now waiting for the Fortnite stream as well lol
@garrettchristensen80748 ай бұрын
Jupiters Legacy is something to check out after INVINCIBLE
@shawnforrester16108 ай бұрын
Spoiler alert........................................................... With the Anissa issue and not having a clear resolution. I like that choice because sometimes there isn't a resolution on the offender. And that sucks but it brings a bit of reality to the situation. And we get Mark's growth from it.
@mattlewis65178 ай бұрын
My favorite part is its a complete story.
@nrdscott8 ай бұрын
I think the lack of resolution in Anissa's actions needs to stay that way. How many people that have similar experiences get that closure? Not many. It's more powerful for Mark to have a real set of experiences. I do agree, however, that Nolan being better would improve the direction of that arc.
@alexgomez67237 ай бұрын
Would you say that if it was a woman raped by a man?
@radicalpasta70408 ай бұрын
Fans of Invincible should really check out the webcomic Strong Female Protagonist. The premise is that one of the most powerful superheroes in the world reveals her secret identity and quits being a superhero after her arch-enemy reveals a terrible secret to her. Like Invincible, this comic deals with real world issues and has a progressing story with real consequences. Some of the main themes of SFP revolve around what it means to be a hero and the ethics of wielding incredible power. Can’t recommend the webcomic enough. One of my favorite stories, ever.
@eminor91968 ай бұрын
xavier mendoza
@LuckyBastard123458 ай бұрын
Steven Yeun has actually done some voice acting
@thaddeusnelson35728 ай бұрын
I’m new to your channel. It would be great to get some background on your career. For example, what does a comic proof reader do?
@ricksanchezdeluniversoc13798 ай бұрын
Shockfactorman?
@JonsBasicGaming8 ай бұрын
Would you consider an episode on Archie supheroes such as The Fly?
@GroovyDude008 ай бұрын
Spawn and Young Blood could 1000% show up, they're owned by the image founders and could do whatever they want with those characters lmao.
@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial36778 ай бұрын
I can only hope to make a superhero comic as good as Invincible. It's an inspiration to it. Even made an entire race inspired by the Viltumites (called them Trilovites because I'm not good with alien names.)